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MG1
09-10-2021, 06:35 AM
This thread is about all things Canada. Our country. The rich history and culture. The country is in turmoil at the moment, but even more the reason why we should explore it. You cannot erase history. Understand the past. So important. Please keep politics out of this thread. We already have enough of that in other threads. Accomplishments of Canadians and what our country represents. How we are perceived by other nations. Contributions in the development of technology, health care, visual and performing arts, etc.

Ever since I was a child, I loved everything Canada. It was probably the reason I got into stamp collecting. I don't collect other countries or themes. Just Canada. I knew more about the history of Canada than most of my elementary school socials studies teachers. Famous Canadians like Pauline Johnson, Nellie McLung, Frederick Banting, Group of Seven, Cabot, Cartier, Champlain, Montcalm and Wolfe, Louis Riel, Alexander Graham Bell (although not 100% Canadian), etc. Events in our country's history. Our history is, as much, or more rich than that of the US. As I look at the stamps issued over the years, you see how our country has been shaped. The world wars, cold war, acceptance of immigrants, etc. Our natural beauty, as well as, the rich indigenous flora and fauna is incredible (indigenous means, "of or from a place," not just referring to peoples).

https://www.historymuseum.ca/event/the-canadian-stamp-collection/

I know many here don't appreciate what this country offers. Complaints and whining with no solutions. This thread might die right here and now, but stop and think about some positive things about this place we call home. I love this country. A proud Canadian, I am.

MG1
09-10-2021, 06:36 AM
Terry Fox. Need I say more?

MG1
09-10-2021, 06:38 AM
https://www.mta.ca/library/courage/canadasroleinwwii.html

MG1
09-10-2021, 06:55 AM
It's on our ten cent coin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluenose


One of the most famous stamps from Canada was that of the Bluenose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluenose_(postage_stamp)

100 years later.........

https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/shop-magasin/en/collectors-collectionneurs/stamps-and-collectibles-by-year-timbres-et-articles-de-collection-par-annee/2021/bluenose-100th-anniversary-centenaire-du-bluenose.jsf?execution=e1s1

and

https://imgur.com/gallery/uWShiwp

sonick
09-10-2021, 08:22 AM
Gooo Leylah Fernandez!!!

TOS'd
09-10-2021, 08:31 AM
OP, are you a bot?

twitchyzero
09-10-2021, 09:23 AM
i was on the bluenose replica two week ago
it's in surprisingly great shape

pe island, the norse site & trinity in nfld definitely made me appreciate our history even more

it was good to finally step out of bc for a while..much needed breather from all the pandemic and political arguments

Traum
09-10-2021, 10:29 AM
Events in our country's history. Our history is, as much, or more rich than that of the US.
Canada remains as the only country in history that has ever burned down the White House~ :D

Canada, fxxk yeah~! SwiftRage

bcrdukes
09-10-2021, 10:54 AM
OP, are you a bot?

:seriously:

Why would you ask such a stupid question? MG1 is a valuable and highly respected member of the community. FFS. :facepalm:

MG1
09-10-2021, 11:14 AM
Maybe father/son issues............ still mad I never took him to the PNE. Getting me a grandson would mend the relationship and get him a really nice car, 'cause that's what asian fathers do...........

Back on topic............

https://www.rickhansen.com/about-rick/ricks-story

MG1
09-10-2021, 11:17 AM
Canada remains as the only country in history that has ever burned down the White House~ :D

Canada, fxxk yeah~! SwiftRage

I posted that a while back and was quickly corrected. It was the British. But we are/were, British North America. So I still say it sort of counts.

MG1
09-10-2021, 11:20 AM
i was on the bluenose replica two week ago
it's in surprisingly great shape

pe island, the norse site & trinity in nfld definitely made me appreciate our history even more

it was good to finally step out of bc for a while..much needed breather from all the pandemic and political arguments

I was in Lunenburg hoping to see the Bluenose, but it was not in port at the time. Quite disappointed, but that part of Canada is really amazing. It's oozing with history. And, the kindest people you'll ever meet. Night and day compared to the majority of west coasters.

Bouncing Bettys
09-10-2021, 06:52 PM
^I got to walk on the Bluenose replica in Lunenburg (I lived 4? blocks away) back in 2002. Also got a look at the official house which the captains of the Bluenose resided. So much history in that town and it looked like the setting of a movie with how historic and beautiful it was there. Got to touch a section of the Berlin Wall, which had been brought to and displayed in Lunenburg. I remember exploring graveyards there and looking for the oldest ones. The gravestones were so worn, but I could read one from 1809 or so. Great people too and I hope to visit again someday.

MG1
09-10-2021, 07:01 PM
Lunenburg is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. What an honour!

https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/741/

MG1
09-10-2021, 07:08 PM
Check out the List of World Heritage Sites. We have a few...........

https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/

twitchyzero
09-10-2021, 07:50 PM
i was commenting on how even the chains there like mcdonalds and chatime are infinitely better than vancouver's in service

newfies definitely live up to their reputation i'd say the nicest in north america yet..i do hope to visit the deep south in the near future, perhaps the hospitality is an acadian/cajun influence

aaand near the top of r/can right now
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/plsfo5/lanse_aux_meadows_over_1000_years_ago_vikings/

danned
09-10-2021, 09:36 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JcLM_uos1Ho/TX0vmMwLuoI/AAAAAAAAARs/Scdnwb4YeSE/s400/tumblr_l5bo87Pspk1qbd42jo1_500.jpg

Ulic Qel-Droma
09-14-2021, 02:58 AM
sorry

murd0c
09-14-2021, 08:03 AM
I have to keep it real right now... With the way our country is being run right now and with everything going on I'm no longer proud to be Canadian. Canada has turned into a joke and I can't see it getting better anytime soon.

MG1
09-14-2021, 08:27 AM
more of a joke than the US?

murd0c
09-14-2021, 09:30 AM
more of a joke than the US?

YES

Liquid_o2
09-14-2021, 10:05 AM
i was commenting on how even the chains there like mcdonalds and chatime are infinitely better than vancouver's in service

newfies definitely live up to their reputation i'd say the nicest in north america yet..i do hope to visit the deep south in the near future, perhaps the hospitality is an acadian/cajun influence

aaand near the top of r/can right now
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/plsfo5/lanse_aux_meadows_over_1000_years_ago_vikings/

I've spent a bunch of time in the U.S. south. Atlanta, Chattanooga, Birmingham, Nashville, etc. Hospitality is much much better than Vancouver. There is rampant racism and huge cultural divides, but Georgia and Alabama provide some of the best service when going to restaurants, bars, hotels, etc. Southern hospitality is a real thing.

MG1
09-14-2021, 03:01 PM
There’s more to Canada than Vancouver. I would say things out here has deteriorated to the point it is downright embarrassing.

CivicBlues
09-14-2021, 03:28 PM
YES

Care to elaborate? I think a lot of what people think are "Canada things" are really just "Vancouver things" or "2020s things". Go around the world and you'll see people dealing with the same shitty things we are, and in most other countries much shittier things.

68style
09-14-2021, 03:38 PM
I have to keep it real right now... With the way our country is being run right now and with everything going on I'm no longer proud to be Canadian. Canada has turned into a joke and I can't see it getting better anytime soon.

Yah you're really suffering, buying new trucks and cars and UTV's every year... what a terrible place to live man... you want Canada to make your pancakes for you in the morning too? LOL

Spectre_Cdn
09-14-2021, 04:17 PM
^I think you’re mixing him up with dared3vil0...

Manic!
09-14-2021, 04:47 PM
People living a life of privilege complaining about how bad Canada is. LOL. We still live in the best country in the world, and I have been to a few.

Hondaracer
09-14-2021, 04:53 PM
Typical Canadian attitude that other places are garbage so we can be a little garbage too

Instead of fulfilling our potential as a nation we are intentionally sabotaging our future.

SkinnyPupp
09-14-2021, 07:10 PM
One thing I've noticed after moving away from Canada is how privileged Canadians are without realizing it.. Most (not all) complaints come across as being spoiled brats.

All countries have positives and negatives about them. Canada's ratio is pretty damn good, and you should appreciate that. "The way this country is run" is probably more fair and democratic than anywhere else on the planet.

Manic!
09-14-2021, 08:51 PM
Typical Canadian attitude that other places are garbage so we can be a little garbage too

Instead of fulfilling our potential as a nation we are intentionally sabotaging our future.

No one is perfect. What are your plans to make this country better?

MG1
09-14-2021, 09:29 PM
No one is perfect. What are your plans to make this country better?

Beat me to it.

It's much easier to bitch at something than trying to fix it.

Sort of like, "It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness."

murd0c
09-15-2021, 03:31 PM
Care to elaborate? I think a lot of what people think are "Canada things" are really just "Vancouver things" or "2020s things". Go around the world and you'll see people dealing with the same shitty things we are, and in most other countries much shittier things.

Two major factors that make me feel this way.. #1 would be Justin Trudeau, he's an honest joke having him as a leader in Canada.. He has zero spine does what he wishes and care's more about giving money away to different countries then even helping our own country.

the second one is by far the indigenous nations residential school deaths.. I personally think this has been handled so poorly by our federal government and kinda seems like they are trying to wash is under the rug which is why we haven't heard anything about it for the last bit.

I have a number of other more local complaints but for me those are two major issues (I can go for days about this shit JT as done wrong) but I honestly feel we as a country have lost all respect from the other world leaders and it shows.

Hondaracer
09-15-2021, 04:04 PM
No one is perfect. What are your plans to make this country better?

It’s not my job to do that. However I think getting away from these ultra liberal views which have ended us up in this current situation would be a start

Driving through the DTES and the downtown core I don’t know how anyone can be proud of that. We’ve let down the most vulnerable people in our society for decades now and we are all paying the price.

I dont want to overly politicize it but the problem has obviously gotten substantially worse under the liberals, albeit the ball has been dropped by all parties and all levels of govt.

Other places in the world might have problems, but they don't have anything like the DTES for the most part.

mikemhg
09-15-2021, 04:50 PM
Two major factors that make me feel this way.. #1 would be Justin Trudeau, he's an honest joke having him as a leader in Canada.. He has zero spine does what he wishes and care's more about giving money away to different countries then even helping our own country.

the second one is by far the indigenous nations residential school deaths.. I personally think this has been handled so poorly by our federal government and kinda seems like they are trying to wash is under the rug which is why we haven't heard anything about it for the last bit.

I have a number of other more local complaints but for me those are two major issues (I can go for days about this shit JT as done wrong) but I honestly feel we as a country have lost all respect from the other world leaders and it shows.

This response in my opinion is the classic anecdotal perception of things, simply based on the dislike of an individual.

I'm assuming you're more conservative in nature, would I be correct?

I find it interesting that you say the following:

"He has zero spine does what he wishes and care's more about giving money away to different countries then even helping our own country."

Did Trudeau not pass one of the most generous social assistance programs (CERB) of any G7 country? To the point where you hear conservatives crying about how he gave away too much to the general public? So which one is it, his government gave away too much to the public, or the complete opposite? You can't have it both ways. Do tell me what more should he be giving or doing for the public, be specific with examples.

Speaking to the residential school issue. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never heard you once talk about indigenous issues, or speak about Canada's repugnant history with the indigenous community. I find it absolutely fascinating that my same "conservative" friends, who make native "jokes", and never gave a flying fuck about them, suddenly are bleeding hearts about the whole subject, simply because they hate the guy in charge.

It reminds me of republicans in the states crying about helping the Afghans simply because Biden is in charge, but never mentioned these people prior. Do you think to a degree your dislike for Trudeau might be clouding your overall judgement?

What do you think the government should be doing about the residential schools? Make another fake apology? Give some more money away? How would you handle this as a federal leader?

Let me prefix that I'm not a big Trudeau fan, but I also don't believe he's as terrible as people play him out to be.

Manic!
09-15-2021, 04:51 PM
It’s not my job to do that. However I think getting away from these ultra liberal views which have ended us up in this current situation would be a start

Driving through the DTES and the downtown core I don’t know how anyone can be proud of that. We’ve let down the most vulnerable people in our society for decades now and we are all paying the price.

I dont want to overly politicize it but the problem has obviously gotten substantially worse under the liberals, albeit the ball has been dropped by all parties and all levels of govt.

Other places in the world might have problems, but they don't have anything like the DTES for the most part.

https://steemitimages.com/DQmWkcWTqLYFFU5tnJyChfrEn3PSJjs9pzGNjaKTis82kf3/ask%20not.jpg

You don't think other places have places like the DTES? Other countries have places that are a lot worse.

This is just as bad as the DTES and its in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7layyUBQFs

The DTES has gotten worse because of prescription drugs like fentanyl.

We live in the best country in the world, A country people are willing to die to get to. But I guess some people are never happy no matter how good they got it.

Hondaracer
09-15-2021, 04:55 PM
I don’t disagree that this is the best country in the world.

But we can do so much better.

mikemhg
09-15-2021, 05:07 PM
It’s not my job to do that. However I think getting away from these ultra liberal views which have ended us up in this current situation would be a start

Driving through the DTES and the downtown core I don’t know how anyone can be proud of that. We’ve let down the most vulnerable people in our society for decades now and we are all paying the price.

I dont want to overly politicize it but the problem has obviously gotten substantially worse under the liberals, albeit the ball has been dropped by all parties and all levels of govt.

Other places in the world might have problems, but they don't have anything like the DTES for the most part.

You know quite well that this is a provincial issue, primarily. This is a problem that not only has affected Canada, but our neighbors down south, and it all comes down to affordability.

We had a conservative party in power for damn near 20 years in this province, creating this problem. Affordability is the primary reason why businesses can't find employees to work here, it's the other primary reason you're seeing so many people on the streets.

Who created this problem? The BC Liberals. Based on that, why do you spend so much time espousing your complaints about "liberal and progressive" politics, yet completely negate the overall policies that put us here in the first place?

A tinge of bias there, no? :lol

I understand your frustrations, but overall I believe these issues are far greater than any one politician here.

Hondaracer
09-15-2021, 05:22 PM
Funding and whatnot to cure this issue obviously has to come from the federal level though. The appetite to fund or reopen a place like river view which is obviously desperately needed has never been there.

I don’t think affordability is really the root of the addiction crisis but it obviously compounds with the other factors that put people on the streets in the first place.

I won’t go much further as this will just turn into another politics thread when that wasn’t the intention

mikemhg
09-15-2021, 05:39 PM
Funding and whatnot to cure this issue obviously has to come from the federal level though. The appetite to fund or reopen a place like river view which is obviously desperately needed has never been there.

I don’t think affordability is really the root of the addiction crisis but it obviously compounds with the other factors that put people on the streets in the first place.

I won’t go much further as this will just turn into another politics thread when that wasn’t the intention

Definitely agree with you on Riverview, among others.

That will take $$$ though, are you willing to see an increase in your taxes in order to accommodate such sweeping legislation?

Hondaracer
09-15-2021, 05:51 PM
If I actually knew that’s what they were going towards absolutely

twitchyzero
09-15-2021, 08:02 PM
is anyone getting 9/30 off or just federal/bank employees?

twitchyzero
09-15-2021, 08:14 PM
one gripe i have is that we dont have the identity of canada out here

in school we learned about the french the british the structure of parliment...like cool what about BC, the salish people?? i only very briefly recall haida from the curriculum

what commonalties do we have with ON? with NWT or NS? the culture here is way closer to that of Oregon or asia pacific

we're too isolated from the rest of the country..it's like russia

SkinnyPupp
09-15-2021, 10:19 PM
one gripe i have is that we dont have the identity of canada out here

in school we learned about the french the british the structure of parliment...like cool what about BC, the salish people?? i only very briefly recall haida from the curriculum

what commonalties do we have with ON? with NWT or NS? the culture here is way closer to that of Oregon or asia pacific

we're too isolated from the rest of the country..it's like russia
We learned quite a bit although our schools were always near reservations... We had a socials teacher who was very brutally honest about Canada's history, although I don't think he touched on the schools much. Not sure if he didn't know at the time in the 90's or just didn't want to subject us to that.

CivicBlues
09-16-2021, 07:40 AM
one gripe i have is that we dont have the identity of canada out here

in school we learned about the french the british the structure of parliment...like cool what about BC, the salish people?? i only very briefly recall haida from the curriculum

what commonalties do we have with ON? with NWT or NS? the culture here is way closer to that of Oregon or asia pacific

we're too isolated from the rest of the country..it's like russia

I hate when people say this, no BC is not closer to Oregon than Ontario. Have you been to either? Ontario (The GTA mostly, but thats where about half of them live) is full of itself sure but it still has the same institutions, demographics, urban form and dialect spoken as here. Outside of Portland and the coast, Oregon is basically Western Idaho and is full of Rednecks and White Nationalist survivalist types.

Closer to Asia-Pacific? Give me a break, Vancouver is nothing like the big Asian metropolises (I've been to them all) that's like saying New York is closer to Italy than the rest of the US because there's a lot of Guidos in Brooklyn.

murd0c
09-16-2021, 07:52 AM
This response in my opinion is the classic anecdotal perception of things, simply based on the dislike of an individual.

I'm assuming you're more conservative in nature, would I be correct?

I find it interesting that you say the following:

"He has zero spine does what he wishes and care's more about giving money away to different countries then even helping our own country."

Did Trudeau not pass one of the most generous social assistance programs (CERB) of any G7 country? To the point where you hear conservatives crying about how he gave away too much to the general public? So which one is it, his government gave away too much to the public, or the complete opposite? You can't have it both ways. Do tell me what more should he be giving or doing for the public, be specific with examples.

Speaking to the residential school issue. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never heard you once talk about indigenous issues, or speak about Canada's repugnant history with the indigenous community. I find it absolutely fascinating that my same "conservative" friends, who make native "jokes", and never gave a flying fuck about them, suddenly are bleeding hearts about the whole subject, simply because they hate the guy in charge.

It reminds me of republicans in the states crying about helping the Afghans simply because Biden is in charge, but never mentioned these people prior. Do you think to a degree your dislike for Trudeau might be clouding your overall judgement?

What do you think the government should be doing about the residential schools? Make another fake apology? Give some more money away? How would you handle this as a federal leader?

Let me prefix that I'm not a big Trudeau fan, but I also don't believe he's as terrible as people play him out to be.

You assumed wrong about me being conservative in nature because I was brought up from my parents to always be more liberal but Trudeau being such a bleeding heart is changing my vision on things so I'm more in the middle now I guess you can say.

You bring up CERB (which I didn't collect a penny on) it honestly fucked our country by screwing the businesses over and the people collecting it. The issue is everyone received it no matter what, I know people on the streets collecting the $2000 a month when they haven't worked a day on their life. You also hear people not trying or wanting to go back to work since they are getting all this free money so what the point of working which is really messing up our economy. Not only that think of all the people who needed it to survive and didn't put anything aside for their taxes and are royally going to get fucked over in the future and they don't even realize it yet.

As for the residential schools, I'm straight up tired of the apologies which mean nothing, our federal government needs to have a meeting with all the bands and ask them what they need. There needs to be action and both parties need to work together to give these young children the respect and correct burials they need. What does the government do? Here is a holiday on September 30th where Trudeau will shed a tear and apologize again with no real actions. It's one of those things you could never correct or make better but all you can do is learn from it and show the respect to the first nations which they have never truly received.

With all the scandals that have happened, the non-stop spending putting Canada a Trillion dollars into debt and the smug look and comments at press conferences I can no longer stand him. I originally voted for him which I'm ashamed to admit, I thought it was going to be a great change but this isn't the change I wanted with the start of it for me was the changing of our national anthem and it just got worse and worse after that.

So yes I'm ashamed to be Canadian right now, instead of working together he has caused such a big divide between all sides which is the results you see today.

bcrdukes
09-16-2021, 07:52 AM
Ontario (The GTA mostly, but thats where about half of them live) is full of itself

416 checking in :troll:

twitchyzero
09-16-2021, 08:02 AM
I hate when people say this, no BC is not closer to Oregon than Ontario. Have you been to either? Ontario (The GTA mostly, but thats where about half of them live) is full of itself sure but it still has the same institutions, demographics, urban form and dialect spoken as here. Outside of Portland and the coast, Oregon is basically Western Idaho and is full of Rednecks and White Nationalist survivalist types.

Closer to Asia-Pacific? Give me a break, Vancouver is nothing like the big Asian metropolises (I've been to them all) that's like saying New York is closer to Italy than the rest of the US because there's a lot of Guidos in Brooklyn.

huh and portland area is not half of Oregon's population? the more eastern sides of BC isn't more alberta? you're proving my point geography and isolation plays a big part

we have the same set of laws, currency and language but i dont relate anymore with Ontario folks more than say those from western washington

are people here more interested in trader joes or sobeys?

there's no less restaurants and cafes in from asia/influenced by asia than chains from QC/ON in vancouver..why else do we have Alipay option at checkout counters?

CivicBlues
09-16-2021, 09:36 AM
huh and portland area is not half of Oregon's population? the more eastern sides of BC isn't more alberta? you're proving my point geography and isolation plays a big part

we have the same set of laws, currency and language but i dont relate anymore with Ontario folks more than say those from western washington

are people here more interested in trader joes or sobeys?

there's no less restaurants and cafes in from asia/influenced by asia than chains from QC/ON in vancouver..why else do we have Alipay option at checkout counters?

I work with a lot of Americans, many just across the border in WA as well as Canadians from the East it's clear there is a definite cultural difference when dealing with Americans. Other than our commonality with superficial environmental factors there's a difference between the way they talk, cultural markers, history. This is reflected in the way they approach life and their expectations and entitlements. When talking to someone from Toronto we come from a common base which is the Canadian experience - superficial stuff like Hockey and Politics but also we understand the Multicultural Mosaic, the Canadian immigrant experience, the need for consensus, Peace, Order, and Good Government.

Dude, everything that is "Canadian" here is basically Torontoized. BMO, Shoppers, Tim Hortons etc. You just think we like Trader Joes more of course because it's a freaking specialty store and you want to compare it to a run of the mill grocery like Sobeys? LOL. Guaranteed that corporate offices in Toronto have a way more effect on your life than you realize.

Seriously Alipay and Uncle Tetsu makes us Asia? They have that shit in Toronto too maybe even more so. Just because we have a ton of Chinese here doesn't make us "Asia". We are Canadian to the core with Asian flavour that is it.

CivicBlues
09-16-2021, 09:43 AM
You assumed wrong about me being conservative in nature because I was brought up from my parents to always be more liberal but Trudeau being such a bleeding heart is changing my vision on things so I'm more in the middle now I guess you can say.

You bring up CERB (which I didn't collect a penny on) it honestly fucked our country by screwing the businesses over and the people collecting it. The issue is everyone received it no matter what, I know people on the streets collecting the $2000 a month when they haven't worked a day on their life. You also hear people not trying or wanting to go back to work since they are getting all this free money so what the point of working which is really messing up our economy. Not only that think of all the people who needed it to survive and didn't put anything aside for their taxes and are royally going to get fucked over in the future and they don't even realize it yet.

As for the residential schools, I'm straight up tired of the apologies which mean nothing, our federal government needs to have a meeting with all the bands and ask them what they need. There needs to be action and both parties need to work together to give these young children the respect and correct burials they need. What does the government do? Here is a holiday on September 30th where Trudeau will shed a tear and apologize again with no real actions. It's one of those things you could never correct or make better but all you can do is learn from it and show the respect to the first nations which they have never truly received.

With all the scandals that have happened, the non-stop spending putting Canada a Trillion dollars into debt and the smug look and comments at press conferences I can no longer stand him. I originally voted for him which I'm ashamed to admit, I thought it was going to be a great change but this isn't the change I wanted with the start of it for me was the changing of our national anthem and it just got worse and worse after that.

So yes I'm ashamed to be Canadian right now, instead of working together he has caused such a big divide between all sides which is the results you see today.

None of this is unique to Canada

Hondaracer
09-16-2021, 09:58 AM
I think the Canadian identity is also hard to pinpoint because relative to the rest of the world Canada is a very young country.

I think there is a bit to the size of the country as well as it’s much easier for somewhere like Portugal etc. To have a firm identity of their country because besides their extremely long history, the country is tiny comparatively.

The size of the country I think has a lot do to with it when you see a country like Spain having essentially independent nations in Catalonia etc within their own borders. Again though, a country with a vast history.

Want to establish a true Canadian identity? Cut ties with the crown.

MG1
09-16-2021, 10:10 AM
Wow, that didn't take long....... was hoping this thread would be a positive one. Par for the course, I guess.

I'm referring to how the whole thread has evolved, not any one reply.

Maybe, "What I fucking hate about this fucked up poor excuse for a useless shithole of a country we live in," might be more like it.

Butt, the thread continues..................



I'll just sit back and read the posts/replies while having some Jack Links (I don't like popcorn). Will always be a proud Canadian.

CivicBlues
09-16-2021, 10:13 AM
Hard to forge a unique identity in today's globalized world especially when we are next to the cultural behemoth of the US. Geography plays a part but it is not our destiny. History matters. Politics matters.

Just remember the most right leaning CPC member would probably be considered a pinko-commie in most parts of the states. And the most left leaning Democrats in the states still have to kowtow to the gun lobby and display cringe inducing amounts of Patriotism for Canadian standards.

twitchyzero
09-16-2021, 03:00 PM
I work with a lot of Americans, many just across the border in WA as well as Canadians from the East it's clear there is a definite cultural difference when dealing with Americans. Other than our commonality with superficial environmental factors there's a difference between the way they talk, cultural markers, history. This is reflected in the way they approach life and their expectations and entitlements. When talking to someone from Toronto we come from a common base which is the Canadian experience - superficial stuff like Hockey and Politics but also we understand the Multicultural Mosaic, the Canadian immigrant experience, the need for consensus, Peace, Order, and Good Government.

Dude, everything that is "Canadian" here is basically Torontoized. BMO, Shoppers, Tim Hortons etc. You just think we like Trader Joes more of course because it's a freaking specialty store and you want to compare it to a run of the mill grocery like Sobeys? LOL. Guaranteed that corporate offices in Toronto have a way more effect on your life than you realize.

Seriously Alipay and Uncle Tetsu makes us Asia? They have that shit in Toronto too maybe even more so. Just because we have a ton of Chinese here doesn't make us "Asia". We are Canadian to the core with Asian flavour that is it.

i work in kits around lots of those who grew up in Ontario, and not just pleasantries i have to spend an hour every 3-6months with each of them

did we watch the sameeshows growing up sure, but i dont relate any less to those from elsewhere..most of those virtues you listed are of many progressive societies not limited to canada. That's the thing with globalization and especially someone well-travelled like yourself to not have to feel boxed into a classification of canadian just because it's on your passport

i suppose im not a good example as a vancouverite as i can only really think of my banking/insurance that's tied to rest of the country..most if it is local or us-based

sorry not familiar with stores similar to trader joes from eastern canada if they have presence here..T&T is homegrown with the taiwan model

i was just at the ten-don place in brentwood and they have even the emergency exit sign straight out of like singapore, if it wasn't for the server speaking english i'd be fooled to say i was in canada

CivicBlues
09-17-2021, 07:40 AM
Emergency Exits? You mean the green man signs? They're International Standard signs that Canada is just now catching up with. So old buildings still have the "American Style" Red EXIT signs but new ones should be using the Green Iconographic ones. And guess what Province spearheaded it? Ontario:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-s-new-green-exit-signs-follow-international-design-1.3134911

mikemhg
09-17-2021, 09:39 AM
i work in kits around lots of those who grew up in Ontario, and not just pleasantries i have to spend an hour every 3-6months with each of them

did we watch the sameeshows growing up sure, but i dont relate any less to those from elsewhere..most of those virtues you listed are of many progressive societies not limited to canada. That's the thing with globalization and especially someone well-travelled like yourself to not have to feel boxed into a classification of canadian just because it's on your passport

i suppose im not a good example as a vancouverite as i can only really think of my banking/insurance that's tied to rest of the country..most if it is local or us-based

sorry not familiar with stores similar to trader joes from eastern canada if they have presence here..T&T is homegrown with the taiwan model

i was just at the ten-don place in brentwood and they have even the emergency exit sign straight out of like singapore, if it wasn't for the server speaking english i'd be fooled to say i was in canada

Walk around in that whole food court and you wouldn't know you're in Canada :lol

bcrdukes
09-17-2021, 09:46 AM
Emergency Exits? You mean the green man signs? They're International Standard signs that Canada is just now catching up with. So old buildings still have the "American Style" Red EXIT signs but new ones should be using the Green Iconographic ones. And guess what Province spearheaded it? Ontario:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-s-new-green-exit-signs-follow-international-design-1.3134911

416 checking in again :troll: :fuckyea:

CivicBlues
09-17-2021, 09:55 AM
^dude back me up here :yuno:

punkwax
09-17-2021, 12:24 PM
Emergency Exits? You mean the green man signs? They're International Standard signs that Canada is just now catching up with. So old buildings still have the "American Style" Red EXIT signs but new ones should be using the Green Iconographic ones. And guess what Province spearheaded it? Ontario:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-s-new-green-exit-signs-follow-international-design-1.3134911

Those green signs will be closer to the floor than the ceiling eventually as well. Smoke rises and their function is to help people escape fire.

bcrdukes
09-17-2021, 01:27 PM
^dude back me up here :yuno:

hahaha I'm not really sure what to say here or rather, unsure if I can add any real value here.

I've done a lot of traveling across Canada throughout my career to have been through all the provinces, except for the territories. There's always the superficial cultural denominators like hockey, CBC, and Tim Horton's, but since moving to Toronto a number of years ago, I came to accept that a lot of decisions (be it good or bad - not up to me to decide) happens in Toronto.

Banking/Finance, technology, health care, food supply chain - the big decisions are here. I can't even move back to Vancouver w/o leaving my employer because the decisions are still being made in Toronto regardless so I feel stuck here (and for a long time to come)

I miss Vancouver but accept that it's not a perfect city; Vancouver has its ups and downs/pros and cons, but I still feel like an outsider having lived in Toronto for a while. It took me about 2 - 3 years to really "adapt" and accept the way of life in Toronto and I still resist the "culture" if you will. I still identify as a Vancouverite to this day.

They have "Farm Boy" out there but its nowhere as good as Trader Joe's, and I miss that a lot. ABGs too. :hotbaby: Moving here helped me accelerate my career which would NOT have been possible in Vancouver, so it still boggles my mind how Revscene ballers here have $250K+ minimum household incomes. One thing's for sure - you either are baller as fuck or you're a drug dealer (so here's my jab at you assholes) hah!

As the saying goes, the universe revolves around Toronto.

GLOW
09-17-2021, 02:34 PM
running man exits has been a code change for several years now. those that don't have it are grandfathered, any reno (baring a few minor ones) generally will require them updated.

yes smoke rises, few years back one of the managers i works with originally from the UK would tell me some designs where in the event of a fire, the floor lit up like an airport landing strip with arrows directing you where to go out on main egress routes, makes sense...sounds expensive though :lol

Traum
09-17-2021, 03:26 PM
With less than a week to go, Oktoberfest in KW is coming up... In all those years when I was living in 519, somehow I've never actually participated in the main festivities -- the beer drinking alone doesn't count.

Did you know that the KW Oktoberfest is the biggest one in the world outside of Munchen? It was cancelled last year, but I think they are still set to go for this year for now.

Sigh...

https://www.mystratfordnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Prosit-Onkel-Hans-image.jpg

twitchyzero
10-03-2021, 02:42 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pzyu78/how_culturally_similar_is_vancouver_to/

not the end all be all but a similar discussion of where of vancouver fits in cascadia vs canada

going camping next week and the lake is physically connected to north cascades national park

the pacing and vibe here is completely different than toronto and undeniably closer to that of portland (think hipster culture and breweries..the breweries in halifax are another beast altogether)