[white rocket]

Been waiting impatiently for this. Looks like it'll be worth the wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMYMZrKdCjw

[donjalapeno]

The hybrid powertrain sounds amazing. The F150 will have competition now.

The truck itself looks great but I feel like Toyota/Lexus always uses the same recycled plastic interior bits from older models and it looks like they did the same with the Tundra. It’s going to be interesting to see the Doug Demuro review.

[!Aznboi128]

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2022-toyota-tundra-trd-pro-135-1631808151.jpg

regular models have "Tundra" but that's a massive TRD Pro stamp

[TOPEC]

so this will most likely be the same powertrain(s) available when they make a new 4runner

[MarkyMark]

There's something about the rear tails that I don't like, I think it would have looked better if the bottom of the lights stayed straight instead of matching the top.

[Hondaracer]

given the on-going chip shortage and the current truck prices, this thing is gonna be insane $$$

[GIZZ]

No swiss army tailgate?

I hope Toyota is making this another d4s engine. They are one of the last manufacturers making engines that wont have GDI issues by the time they are out of warranty.

For how long Toyota runs a bodystyle, for sure this will one day become full EV like the Ford Lightning.

[Spectre_Cdn]

^ it is a dual-injection engine, same as the one used in the LS500 and Land Cruiser

[vitaminG]

It sucks the hybrid version didn't have a generator like the fords do. Hopefully that's coming later because that's a pretty big feature that's missing

so this will most likely be the same powertrain(s) available when they make a new 4runner

I suspect new 4runner/Tacoma will probably have some version the new 2.4 turbo 4 cyl they put in the nx350. Hopefully there's a hybrid version too.

[68style]

Number of Americans who will buy a 4 cylinder truck = almost none

[underscore]

Why are modern trucks so hideously bulky and tall? The poor engines must feel lost in that gigantic front end.

[vitaminG]

Number of Americans who will buy a 4 cylinder truck = almost none

Ranger is 2.3t 4cyl only, also the Broncos base engine. Wrangler has a turbo 4 as an option above the v6. Chevy has a n/a 2.5 4 cyl base engine in the Colorado, and they'll even sell you a half ton with a 2.7l turbo 4. So given that all the American automakers current offer 4 cyl trucks I think it's safe to say Americans are buying them.

[68style]

I don't know for sure, but I think if you compare the sales results of the different engine categories you will see what I mean

[TOPEC]

It sucks the hybrid version didn't have a generator like the fords do. Hopefully that's coming later because that's a pretty big feature that's missing



I suspect new 4runner/Tacoma will probably have some version the new 2.4 turbo 4 cyl they put in the nx350. Hopefully there's a hybrid version too.

LOL i must be hella tripping, i kept on thinking this was the new tacoma so assumed itll be the drivetrain for the next 4runner as well. no wonder i kept on thinking to myself, wow the tacoma sure has grown in size.

[twitchyzero]

to think this design is supposed to last until 2035 :fulloffuck:

[white rocket]

I think they smashed it outta the park with the hybrid option and it's torque boost. Now that it seems to be in the same field as the competition for hp/tq and mpg's it'll be interesting to see how much more of the marketshare they'll consume. It's not like Toyota to put out stuff that breaks so here's hoping that the new powertrain stands the test of time and holds up to the reliability reputation that the brand is known for.

Coincidently, I have a 2021 Platinum due to arrive in about a week and I'll be happy to have the V8 send-off year to daily while watching how this new gen performs. Picking up a 2024/25 after they've sorted the bugs out and addressed customer complaints seems like a solid plan.

The biggest complaint will be pricing. Although, any of the Big 3 have their fully loaded half tons in the $80k-$90K+ range anyway, so the days of a fully loaded Tundra for $64k are gone I'm thinking.

I think they did a great job all in all with only a few weird quirky and perhaps gaudy choices. Will be interesting to see how production goes with all the chip shortage talk; I'd hate to hear that it's a year long waiting list.

[punkwax]

Why are modern trucks so hideously bulky and tall? The poor engines must feel lost in that gigantic front end.

I like the beefy front ends these days..

[77civic1200]

Where are the meme's? BMW came out with grills half this size and everyone shit on them, this is like stage 3 right here

[underscore]

I like the beefy front ends these days..

Were the trucks from a few gens ago not beefy enough? Granted I hate unnecessarily large vehicles to begin with (don't start me on that rant), but every truck now looks like the designers got a little too carried away with the "extrude" tool and just keep stretching the cab taller. Then they slap so much gaudy crap on the front it looks like it was designed by Affliction or Ed Hardy. They're hideous.

Is there just a ton of dead space between the engine and axle? They manage to make the engine bay look cramped, but they've added 6" to the height of the bay to fit the same size engines they put in cars and small SUVs (and the older gens of the same truck).

[twitchyzero]

one could probably be more critical at the aesthetics of a saloon than a truck, supposed to be boxy and big?

besides, kidney grille is synonymous with BM, tundra's nose isn't exactly a landmark

[Hondaracer]

The difference in comfort of half ton pickups from 2010 and 2018 is night and day. They are big for the interior comfort.

I would never even consider a Tacoma or ranger because they feel so incredibly cramped inside.

[JD¹³]

Not sure how I feel about that digital faux carbon trim, it looks tacky.

Can someone remind us all what the taxes and rebates are like on a vehicle like this? It's hybrid so it gets a rebate correct? How does that affect the luxury tax?

[!Aznboi128]

Hybrids doesn't qualify for rebates only PHEVs which this isn't.

[hchang]

Number of Americans who will buy a 4 cylinder truck = almost none

A lot of new GM full size trucks are 4 banger turbos now, I would assume other big 3 manufacturers are doing the same for fuel economy

[TypeRNammer]

https://driving-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/driving.ca/features/feature-story/v8-to-v6-no-diesel-the-2022-toyota-tundras-chief-engineer-explains-its-changes/wcm/9c1fb29c-aec2-4021-a9d3-b4e7e92c560a/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16328840687569&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fdriving.ca%2Ffeatures%2Ffea ture-story%2Fv8-to-v6-no-diesel-the-2022-toyota-tundras-chief-engineer-explains-its-changes

Toyota Tundra's chief engineer explains the changes for the new generation.

Think Toyota hit this one out of the ball park.

[EvoFire]

I'll wait and see.

I'm not the target market anyways, but sharing the platform with the LC is a good thing I think.

[StylinRed]

I was hoping to see a twin turbo v8 that would find it's way into the LC

Weren't they working on a TT V8 that ended up getting delayed/cancelled? Guess this confirms an end to those hopes

[EvoFire]

I don't think a Toyota TTV8 will ever see the light of day in the current world conditions.

[vitaminG]

No reason for it, unless Lexus really wanted a tt V8. They'll just use more powerful electric motors to complement the gas engine.

[white rocket]

Lexus has a 4.0TT V8 expecting to go into the new LX600 and possibly the new ISF.

There were rumors of a hybrid add-on for the outgoing 5.7L but that never transpired.

[Qmx323]

So basically what Toyota is saying is

"You want gas guzzling but fast, fun and reliable Toyota? Buy Lexus. Thank you!"