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El Bastardo
02-08-2022, 01:18 PM
The Coronavirus thread was being overtaken by the Freedom Rally discussion so per 320icar's suggestion, here is a new thread.

Discuss your honks and freedoms here.

pastarocket
02-08-2022, 01:24 PM
I'm not worried about the moderates, the truckers who have left Ottawa.

I am concerned about the extreme right wing idiots , here in Canada and the US, with a penchant for violence.

Those fuckers are not just anti-government mandates. They are "ANTI government" period.

Something has to be done to bring back peace to the city of Ottawa and its residents.

Clearly, the police do not have the resources in terms number of police and equipment to make these idiot truckers leave.

This is the twelfth day of protests in Ottawa. Things can escalate very quickly with these nut jobs.

Are our government leaders that inept that they would not bring enough assistance to the police and allow things to escalate to violence?

The Ottawa police chief is asking for 1800 police officers. Do we even have 900, half of that number of police officers, in Ottawa??

This is an opinion piece in the Globe and Mail. Your thoughts about this article?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-ottawa-occupation-is-the-october-crisis-revisited-justin-trudeau/

We’ve been here before. In October 1970, the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ), a cadre of violent separatists that had been sowing chaos since 1963, kidnapped James Cross, the British trade commissioner in Montreal. Then it abducted and murdered Pierre Laporte, a provincial cabinet minister. It issued a manifesto of impossible demands.

Fearing the provincial government might collapse, Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau invoked the War Measures Act, suspended civil liberties and sent troops into Montreal. Pressed to defend his draconian response, he declared: “There’s a lot of bleeding hearts around that just don’t like to see people with helmets and guns. Well, all I can say is, go on and bleed, but it’s more important to keep law and order in this society.”

Pressed how far he would go, his answer for the ages: “Just watch me.”

Manic!
02-08-2022, 01:34 PM
https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2022/02/08/ceo-of-canadas-largest-trucking-company-says-vaccine-mandate-not-an-issue-at-all/

CEO of Canada’s largest trucking company says vaccine mandate ‘not an issue at all’

And from the teamsters Union.
https://teamsters.ca/en/blog/2022/02/07/the-real-enemy-for-truckers-is-covid-19

Teamsters Canada is proud to represent over 55,000 professional drivers from diverse industries across the country, approximately 15,000 of which are long haul truck drivers, 90% of whom are vaccinated.

The so-called “freedom convoy” and the despicable display of hate lead by the political Right and shamefully encouraged by elected conservative politicians does not reflect the values of Teamsters Canada, nor the vast majority of our members, and in fact has served to delegitimize the real concerns of most truck drivers today.

We firmly believe in the right to protest government policies and voice a wide array of opinions, but what is happening in Ottawa has done more harm to Teamsters members, be they Truck Drivers who were trying to deliver their loads, or hotel, restaurant and healthcare workers who were intimidated, abused or prevented from accessing their workplaces, by several protesters.

Teamsters Canada would welcome collaboration with government and employers to address today’s real challenges in the trucking industry to keep the supply chain going and Canada’s economy growing.

We join in the calls urging those protesters with legitimate concerns to go back to their own communities and work with local politicians. We are all frustrated and want our lives back, however, let’s ensure we get there respectfully, safely and protect the health of our most vulnerable first.

François Laporte
President of Teamsters Canada
Vice President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters

donk.
02-08-2022, 01:54 PM
Look up the freedoms of Sudan, China, Nkorea, Burma, Tibet, or any other 50 countries, then complain to me about your passport problems

Hondaracer
02-08-2022, 04:19 PM
All tow companies contracted by the city of Ottawa will not haul away the trucks:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/08/ottawa-truckers-blockade-protests-tow-trucks/

Manic!
02-08-2022, 06:59 PM
All tow companies contracted by the city of Ottawa will not haul away the trucks:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/08/ottawa-truckers-blockade-protests-tow-trucks/

don't worry they can always get some guys from Brampton to drive the trucks away.


https://twitter.com/justin_ling/status/1490925393498767362

Now the leader of the protest wants to become P.M. by negotiating with the NDP and the cons. This guy is so delusional he thinks he represents all Canadians. This sounds like a bad CIA plot.

Teriyaki
02-08-2022, 07:19 PM
As a COALITION. With Somebody... Anybody? Helloo??

Manic!
02-08-2022, 07:59 PM
https://i.redd.it/7bm2jtgqrmg81.jpg

I would love to see them try.

PeanutButter
02-09-2022, 08:01 AM
I got caught in the Vancouver trucking rally two saturdays ago and it was so annoying. But, I was pretty impressed at how many people there were. I didn't think there would be that much support.

TOS'd
02-09-2022, 08:11 AM
From the Reddit Vancouver source, I believe they said it was part of the convoy.

The police themselves should be charged for dereliction of duty in this case...
using small children as human shields to block the Commercial Drive route. Imagine the headlines that would make had Ottawa protesters done the same against a car line of police.

https://streamable.com/gdvkyg

https://i.imgur.com/c9QrUq9.jpg


Ottawa police say almost 25 per cent of the 418 trucks still involved in the ongoing demonstration downtown have children in them, which has hampered the force's response and led to concerns about the children's safety.

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-update-convoy-february-8-protest-1.6343814

https://twitter.com/juiceboxcanadaa/status/1491472817094860806

:Popcorn

320icar
02-09-2022, 10:36 AM
I immediately thought of the freedumb convoy when I saw this LOL

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9664357632/hEB94C824/person-ed-raines-itslikebutta-replying-manuclearbomb-fox-news-not-racist-but-with-racists-10

GLOW
02-09-2022, 11:04 AM
surprised firms aren't being aware more quickly ... big companies are disassociating themselves as their trucks were taken without them knowing and being ID'd on a website

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/truck-drivers-companies-ottawa-convoy-protest-1.6343705

Manic!
02-09-2022, 01:21 PM
Looks like kid Carlson will be losing his job soon.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZxOoRaFi3p/?utm_medium=copy_link

He is promoting his podcast asking for money.

68style
02-09-2022, 01:34 PM
He's still around? Wow... gone full tinfoil hat too

Hondaracer
02-09-2022, 01:57 PM
Second liberal MP breaks from Justin and calls him out as Divisive..

hes definately not divisive though..

https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/02/09/quebec-liberal-mp-robillard-also-breaks-ranks-questions-trudeau-governments-handling-of-pandemic-sides-with-lightbound/343476

68style
02-09-2022, 02:15 PM
^ Did you read the things they're saying though?

They're both calling him divisive... or rather... they're calling the federal government divisive... about not lifting vaccination requirements which is forcing poor souls who don't get vaccinated to move to the USA instead.

Moving to the USA is no small feat and certainly most of the people of an income bracket who are choosing not to be vaccinated are definitely not the type of people who can move away.

If requiring vaccination in this situation is divisive, then divide away! Yes! I do hate all the motherfuckers who are holding us back without a legitimate reason.

The other specific freedoms he is complaining about where children are getting depressed and people aren't happy being locked down are PROVINCIAL mandates not Federal ones. As a representative of the federal government I would hope he can tell the difference, but apparently not.

Buddy said he had to go see a family doctor because he got removed from a committee for travelling internationally (if they didn't take this stance, everyone on the other side of the aisle would be saying the message is hypocritical no?) if that's not "snowflake" I don't know what is.

El Bastardo
02-09-2022, 02:22 PM
He's still around? Wow... gone full tinfoil hat too


> Be me, a radio personality
> Complain about mass media
> Be paid to be a part of that mass media
> Complain about the stupid and vapid content of popular radio shows
> Be the person who is paid to participate and drive that vapid content


If you're tired of being part of the clown show, stop being a part of that clown show.

Hey, Kid Carson, do you think people are listening to you because they think you have something intellectual to say? Nah. You're the noise between the songs. Don't have a mid-life crisis because your career's peak has been introducing "Drops of Jupiter" to commuters while they're stuck on the Second Narrows.

Its ok to aspire to more in life, but don't pretend like this is compelled labour for you. Don't pretend like the station director has a pistol to your head and is whispering "Ask them about the french fries, Kid. Do they like them crispy? I want to hear how fucking crispy they like them"

This, like everything else, is a work though. He knows that his contract isn't likely to be renewed and is going out as if he's some person being fired for making a stand. He's not stupid and knows how much money is out there being a right-wing media darling. Its time for him to rebrand, because hey.. you can only pretend to be interested in Ariana Grande for so long right?

You don't have to be smart, or talented (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant) to have a media following, just on-brand and know the talking points. This whole thing created a great narrative for him because he was "too real for mainstream media".
He's out on his own. Him against the man. And he's on YOUR side! All it'll cost you is a few bucks a month to hear how....

Eff-1
02-09-2022, 02:23 PM
Gone.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/kid-carson-leaving-radio-station

unit
02-09-2022, 02:35 PM
seems like he was basically asking to get canned...
maybe he's a big joe rogan guy

Hondaracer
02-09-2022, 02:53 PM
^ Did you read the things they're saying though?

They're both calling him divisive... or rather... they're calling the federal government divisive... about not lifting vaccination requirements which is forcing poor souls who don't get vaccinated to move to the USA instead.

Moving to the USA is no small feat and certainly most of the people of an income bracket who are choosing not to be vaccinated are definitely not the type of people who can move away.

If requiring vaccination in this situation is divisive, then divide away! Yes! I do hate all the motherfuckers who are holding us back without a legitimate reason.

The other specific freedoms he is complaining about where children are getting depressed and people aren't happy being locked down are PROVINCIAL mandates not Federal ones. As a representative of the federal government I would hope he can tell the difference, but apparently not.

Buddy said he had to go see a family doctor because he got removed from a committee for travelling internationally (if they didn't take this stance, everyone on the other side of the aisle would be saying the message is hypocritical no?) if that's not "snowflake" I don't know what is.

I’m moreso being a dick than anything, I apologize lol

If it was an MP from anywhere else I’d probably give it more merit, but given both of the MP’s in question are from Quebec.. ehhh… lol

I still think it does reflect poorly to some degree when your own MPs are calling you out though.

Manic!
02-09-2022, 02:57 PM
seems like he was basically asking to get canned...
maybe he's a big joe rogan guy

He is trying to promote his podcast. Who is going to pay to listen to him?

I hear at one point he was making 700k a year.

68style
02-09-2022, 03:09 PM
^ I don't doubt it, I remember when he changed stations many many many years ago and they stuck his mug on the side of some buses in the lower mainland they were saying he was in the $300k+ bracket back then... can only imagine inflation and experience has driven his price up over the years.

I can see how hearing your own voice talking about every societal happening every day for decades on end while only hearing the odd caller phone up to reinforce what you're saying maybe makes you think you're some kind of savant lol... that's gotta mess with your head over 20 years in the industry I would think.

pastarocket
02-09-2022, 03:10 PM
Oh great, the Flu Trucks Klan are using cryptocurrency, specifically NFTs, as a new way of fundraising.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-why-the-ottawa-truckers-protest-has-turned-to-cryptocurrency-for/

Infiniti
02-10-2022, 05:20 AM
As a resident of Ottawa, the "on the ground" report I can give is that I was downtown earlier this week to head into the office and it was quiet. Lots of semis parked, but no honking and not many people about. Its the weekends where shit gets ramped up. I have friends and colleagues who were dying during the honking days/nights. The injunction did wonders for stopping that. As a side note, OPS are either in bed with the convoy or blatantly incompetent because they have no control over the situation. Pitchforks are out for the Police Chief.

pastarocket
02-10-2022, 07:06 AM
The Flu Trucks Klan is heading towards Ottawa International Airport to honk at passengers and other people at airport terminals. :facepalm:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/group-of-protesters-targeting-ottawa-international-airport/ar-AATH4ge?ocid=entnewsntp

JDMDreams
02-10-2022, 09:19 AM
Only in Canada where you will see people bring kids to a protest and live in cars. Use them as chips. Such freedom so wow. I'm surprised family services hasn't stepped in.

All you need is a few hundred crazies to bring down Canada's economy, and the gov is doing a hot potato. not my job, it's the cities, not my job we have no money.

You can thank the truckers for keeping interest rates low and my asset prices high at least. ??? Profit

TOS'd
02-10-2022, 09:24 AM
https://twitter.com/travisdhanraj/status/1491828495084929024

Ford has been pretty quiet lately.

It's all been fuck the Police Chief, the Ottawa mayor, and the PM. What about the Premier of Ontario? Oh wait, hes PCP.

Hondaracer
02-10-2022, 10:10 AM
Covid and everything surrounding it is seemingly no more about public safety but political gains.

Weird how the two provinces who’s sitting leaders are in trouble lift everything while BC, who’s ruling NDP has zero threat of a liberal win does not react. I feel like Horgan and Bonnie likely wouldn’t anyways given how they’ve handled it up to this point. But the ford thing just speaks to him walking a tight rope trying to remain in power like the rest of them.

Manic!
02-10-2022, 10:12 AM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-covid-19-restrictions-1.6346576


Federal Conservatives call on anti-vaccine mandate protesters to go home
Social Sharing

After publicly supporting the anti-vaccine mandate activists protesting in Ottawa in recent weeks, interim Conservative leader Candice Bergen said Thursday it's time for the convoy and other protesters blocking two major border crossings to end their demonstrations and go home.

LOL. JT wins again.

pastarocket
02-10-2022, 10:13 AM
Hmmm, the Flu Trucks Klan in the US wants to disrupt the Super Bowl game this Sunday.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/us-freedom-convoy-could-disrupt-sunday-s-super-bowl-officials-warn/ar-AATHJJD?ocid=entnewsntp

The Department of Homeland Security issued a bulletin to US law enforcement agencies warning of a convoy “potentially impacting Super Bowl LVI” on 13 February, and the 1 March State of the Union address in Washington, where the mooted convoy is likely to arrive, CBS reported.

The DHS bulletin said such a protest “could severely disrupt transportation, federal government, and law enforcement operations through gridlock and potential counter-protests”.

pastarocket
02-10-2022, 10:25 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/10/paris-police-authority-bans-freedom-convoy-covid-protests

Bravo to the French government!

“Freedom convoys” of motorists that have set off from half a dozen French cities in protest against the country’s coronavirus restrictions will not be allowed to enter Paris, the capital’s police authority has said.

“The stated objective of these demonstrations is to 'block the capital’ by preventing road traffic from circulating in order to further their demands … from Friday, before moving on to Brussels on Monday,” the authority said.

“Because of the risk to public order, these protests will be banned from 11 to 14 February,” it said, adding the penalties for blocking public roads included two years in prison, a fine of €4,500 and a three-year driving ban.

Convoys of cars, vans and motorbikes left Nice in the south-east, Bayonne in the south-west, Strasbourg in the north-east and Cherbourg in the north-west, among other cities, for Paris on Wednesday and Thursday, inspired by a two-week truckers’ demonstration in Canada.

“There will be a special deployment of officers to prevent blockages of major roads, issue tickets and arrest those who contravene this protest ban,” Paris police said, adding that instructions had been given to “act firmly”.

Hondaracer
02-10-2022, 10:31 AM
When you’re banning peaceful protests you’re slipping down the dystopian worm hole pretty quick.

JDMDreams
02-10-2022, 10:35 AM
^^ yes just cuz no one died gives you the right to block essential routes, break all traffic laws, and disrupt the whole country.:rukidding:

Maybe we should super glue them down like the tree huggers

pastarocket
02-10-2022, 10:48 AM
I agree 100 percent with JDMDreams.

If any of the Flu Trucks Klan dared to disrupt transport routes, break traffic laws, OH Forbid, block people from attending the Superbowl on Sunday, the police should arrest those truckers.

Does anyone know if these motherfuckers are harassing passengers at the terminal of Ottawa International airport?

As per my previous post, if the Department of Homeland Security already issued a bulletin about a convoy of these tinfoil heads wanting to disrupt the Superbowl game on Sunday, you can be sure that the American government is keeping an eye on these Flu Trucks Klan south of the border.

JDMDreams
02-10-2022, 10:52 AM
Also hassling health workers and health locations, vaccine clinics, regular ppl wearing masks are considered as peaceful protest. :suspicious::ahwow:

Rallydrv
02-10-2022, 11:13 AM
it feels like 90% of the country doesn't support these people (not saying truckers cause half of them aren't)

and 90% of the country would have appreciated JT, more if had shown some balls in this situation.

why does it take a private citizen to get a court injunction against honking? totally sorry state of government affairs.

Manic!
02-10-2022, 11:18 AM
it feels like 90% of the country doesn't support these people (not saying truckers cause half of them aren't)

and 90% of the country would have appreciated JT, more if had shown some balls in this situation.

why does it take a private citizen to get a court injunction against honking? totally sorry state of government affairs.

JT wants people to be pissed and blame the cons.

Traum
02-10-2022, 11:39 AM
Hmmm, the Flu Trucks Klan in the US wants to disrupt the Super Bowl game this Sunday.

If the protesters are really dumb enough to mess around with the American tradition that Super Bowl is, I'd say we should just let them do it. They'll lose public support so fast that it isn't even funny. (And if they didn't lose support, then all hope is lost on the American public... )

If any of the Flu Trucks Klan dared to disrupt transport routes, break traffic laws, OH Forbid, block people from attending the Superbowl on Sunday, the police should arrest those truckers.
Protesters are already blocking the Windsor - Michigan border crossing, and I don't think anyone has been arrested yet. Only an injunction is being sought to end the blockade. I honestly don't know why the Trudeau and Ford governments aren't taking a more active role to end this when it is the busiest and most economically important CAN-US crossing there is.

Manic!
02-10-2022, 12:30 PM
Auto plants in Ontario are having to close because they can't get parts. Who do you think is going to get the blame, JT or the politician having dinner with the protesters.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLCcsqxVcAAcUsz.jpg

That's the leader of the cons with the protest organizers.

Rumor is they want to block airports next.

Hondaracer
02-10-2022, 12:41 PM
Lol you really gobble JT’s knob eh?

Who’s to blame for not dismantling the protest? Maybe the party in power in charge of that?

By your logic maybe federal NDP or greens should step in!

inv4zn
02-10-2022, 01:04 PM
Lol you really gobble JT’s knob eh?

Who’s to blame for not dismantling the protest? Maybe the party in power in charge of that?

By your logic maybe federal NDP or greens should step in!

We get it, you don't like Trudeau, but to NOT think Bergen sitting in a restaurant with these idiots is both stupid and in poor taste is pretty daft.

There is blame to be had of course, but it's not exclusive to one person or party at this point. Literally every level of government with jurisdiction on this is sitting there twiddling their thumbs.

It should never have gotten to this point.

Manic!
02-10-2022, 01:04 PM
Lol you really gobble JT’s knob eh?

Who’s to blame for not dismantling the protest? Maybe the party in power in charge of that?

By your logic maybe federal NDP or greens should step in!

The leader of the protest wants the cons and NDP to have a meeting with him.

What do you want him to do to bring in the military?

The longer it lasts the stupider the protesters and cons look.

Don't you support the protests?

Hondaracer
02-10-2022, 01:14 PM
Bergen is an idiot and will be poison for the party going forward but her eating with protesters while JT fumbles through house sittings? Who cares, bad optics but it isn’t enabling anything.

She came out today saying the convoy should end? What else is there for the opposition to do? The convoy now has no political support outside of basically rogue MP’s making comments.

I don’t support the protests I think it’s moronic and definitely does not represent my interests at all. But this blame game going around between feds and municipal police is laughable. If you want it over, do somthing. That is on Justin to do. You’re just going to twiddle your thumbs and keep spewing out some BS in parliament hoping this ends on its own? Unlikely.

Liberal logic - Justin being called out by his own MP’s, complete inaction on the whole convoy situation to the point of not even being able to address the topic - “heheh JT is winning” lol..

TOS'd
02-10-2022, 02:49 PM
There's a chain of command, and it doesn't start at the PM making the decision. The Mayor of Ottawa with the Chief of OPS are the ones that need to hand over operations to the RCMP/Federal government which is something they have yet to do. Sure they are asking for more personel, but without handing over the situation taking place on provincial and municipal land, the Feds have no immediate authority.

If you've listened in or watched any of the meetings between MoO/Chief of OPS/Riding representatives, you can see there is corruption going on and the main players are in bed with the protesters. It's a frustrating thing to hear from the people that have the power to start the end of this.


In other news:
A Porno-Metal Song About Gay Cowboys Is Disrupting the Anti-Vaxx Trucker Convoy
“Ram Ranch” has become the unofficial anthem of leftist trolling the far-right protests in Ottawa

Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/anti-vax-trucker-convoy-porno-metal-ram-ranch-1297926/

EDIT: Waze Map updated the name of the convoy's HQ.

https://i.imgur.com/YmIzzNil.png

Also Google Maps review

https://goo.gl/maps/LLMEuvr5F8KLjQveA

https://goo.gl/maps/DfKVQRE4mic2HJhw5

Rallydrv
02-10-2022, 03:21 PM
JT wants people to be pissed and blame the cons.

We are past that. Aren't we?



Lol in the end of the day. What is police gonna do arrest them. Then what. Promise to appear and free to go. Then back on street.

Like the woman who punched out a girl near marine gateway for not giving her a cigarette. ( Worse she ran away from Alberta from a federal jail in 2018) joke

I bet if I drive with front windows tinted. I'd get a vi and then tow.

Then again I'm gonna put a fuc jt flag and they'll leave me alone. Lol

inv4zn
02-10-2022, 03:43 PM
If you want it over, do somthing. That is on Justin to do. You’re just going to twiddle your thumbs and keep spewing out some BS in parliament hoping this ends on its own? Unlikely.


Guy, that is literally how it's supposed to work.

The PM, whether it's JT or anybody else, can't just declare "let this be over, send in the troops." Not only would that be illegal, the nutjobs would be foaming at the mouth calling Trudeau a marxist communist socialist tyrant (although...I guess they already are doing that, lol).

Like you said, this is the result of dangerous stupidity being met with inaction, but while some blame could certainly be placed on the federal government and by relation to Trudeau, there isn't much he can do at this point other than condemn it and twiddle his thumbs.

Manic!
02-10-2022, 05:51 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/freedom-convoy-2022-donations-frozen-give-send-go-1.6347345

Ontario court freezes access to funds raised for protest convoy on GiveSendGo platform

https://mobile.twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/1491872930782855183

underscore
02-10-2022, 08:19 PM
Also hassling health workers and health locations, vaccine clinics, regular ppl wearing masks are considered as peaceful protest. :suspicious::ahwow:

And kids at schools. Real class acts here.

TOS'd
02-10-2022, 08:53 PM
Just some updates for those wanting to follow the situation:

Before convoy arrival, federal officials appealed to Ottawa Police not to allow trucks to park in front of Parliament and the PM’s Office. Police said no, believing protesters' claim they would leave after three days.

Source: https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/02/08/ottawa-police-say-children-on-trucks-add-complication-to-ending-trucker-protest.html

Ontario court freezes access to funds raised for protest convoy on GiveSendGo platform.

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/freedom-convoy-2022-donations-frozen-give-send-go-1.6347345

https://twitter.com/cbckatie/status/1491907291406376967

Q-Anon « queen » stuck in montreal after being denied new RV rental. She is literally stuck.

Video Link: https://www.vrddit.com/?v=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fonguardforth ee%2Fcomments%2Fspd5xx%2Fqanon_queen_stuck_in_mont real_after_being_denied%2F
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/spd5xx/qanon_queen_stuck_in_montreal_after_being_denied/

SkinnyPupp
02-10-2022, 10:24 PM
First time hearing that lady talk... And yeah as I suspected, she has to be actually insane. She needs help.

Her followers though, the ones that aren't similarly mentally deranged.. What's their excuse? How do people like she and Trump get so many followers? Is it because severe mental disorders are actually much more prevalent than we'd think? Or are there just a lot of really stupid people?

This brings me down a very scary line of thinking about how democracy works and doesn't work. Yikers :heckno:

Manic!
02-11-2022, 02:09 AM
All tow companies contracted by the city of Ottawa will not haul away the trucks:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/08/ottawa-truckers-blockade-protests-tow-trucks/

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-towing-company-threatened-into-not-helping-police-with-trucker-convoy-chief-1.5776591

Ottawa towing company threatened into not helping police with trucker convoy: chief

Ottawa police say an investigation is underway into threats targeting a tow truck company that could have helped remove trucks from the "Freedom Convoy" demonstration in downtown Ottawa.

pastarocket
02-11-2022, 08:29 AM
It's about bloody time, Doug Ford!

He finally declares a state of emergency for Ontario:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-announcement-ontario-protests-1.6347810

TOS'd
02-11-2022, 11:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Tammyocanada/status/1491889071869906950

https://twitter.com/goodtimeclub/status/1489948557046132740

https://twitter.com/Penny_024/status/1490439984062418944

El Bastardo
02-11-2022, 11:37 AM
At this point, what are the actual stated goals of the people at the Ram Ranch? I know it began as a protest against cross border transportation worker vaccination requirements, but blocking the borders is new.

What have they said they want this to accomplish?

inv4zn
02-11-2022, 11:46 AM
At this point, what are the actual stated goals of the people at the Ram Ranch? I know it began as a protest against cross border transportation worker vaccination requirements, but blocking the borders is new.

What have they said they want this to accomplish?

Freedom, duh.

They literally aren't capable of going past that.

Why are you here?
FREEDOM!
Ok, but what are your demands?
FREEEEDOM!!
...ok, but what are some things you want to see happen?
FFFREEEEEEDOMMMMMMM!!!!

320icar
02-11-2022, 12:13 PM
Deplorable

Hehe
02-11-2022, 12:22 PM
What troubles me is JT's refusal to have a conversation to at least discuss a solution to all this.

We are a democracy and it's not just about the majority. It's to ensure that while majority gets to make decisions, we also want the voice of the minority to be heard and we can ensure we are making decisions by taking everyone into account.

This is no longer about vaccine or Covid or anything... but rather a fight for control and power.

JT should really resign as a PM if he isn't willing to do a PM's job.

His refusal to talk just gives me the impression that he wants this layer of control, so that society is dependent on the gov't, which is the idea of Liberals to have a big gov't presence.

But let's not forget... it's not the gov't of Canada that defines Canada, but the people of Canada that defines it. I don't think we need the gov't to tell us what to do. Canadians are better than that.

Tapioca
02-11-2022, 12:28 PM
We live in a country with established institutions. While they have a right to protest, they also need to work with elected officials and other aspects of civil society to make their point and influence their desired outcomes.

If the PM were to talk to these people directly, that would legitimize their tactics which would set a precedent for future activists and disruptors.

Do peons in your company knock on the door of your CEO and demand direct dialogue?

Manic!
02-11-2022, 12:29 PM
What troubles me is JT's refusal to have a conversation to at least discuss a solution to all this.

We are a democracy and it's not just about the majority. It's to ensure that while majority gets to make decisions, we also want the voice of the minority to be heard and we can ensure we are making decisions by taking everyone into account.

This is no longer about vaccine or Covid or anything... but rather a fight for control and power.

JT should really resign as a PM if he isn't willing to do a PM's job.

His refusal to talk just gives me the impression that he wants this layer of control, so that society is dependent on the gov't, which is the idea of Liberals to have a big gov't presence.

But let's not forget... it's not the gov't of Canada that defines Canada, but the people of Canada that defines it. I don't think we need the gov't to tell us what to do. Canadians are better than that.

He does not negotiate with terrorists.

inv4zn
02-11-2022, 12:35 PM
What troubles me is JT's refusal to have a conversation to at least discuss a solution to all this.

We are a democracy and it's not just about the majority. It's to ensure that while majority gets to make decisions, we also want the voice of the minority to be heard and we can ensure we are making decisions by taking everyone into account.

This is no longer about vaccine or Covid or anything... but rather a fight for control and power.

JT should really resign as a PM if he isn't willing to do a PM's job.

His refusal to talk just gives me the impression that he wants this layer of control, so that society is dependent on the gov't, which is the idea of Liberals to have a big gov't presence.

But let's not forget... it's not the gov't of Canada that defines Canada, but the people of Canada that defines it. I don't think we need the gov't to tell us what to do. Canadians are better than that.

You're an idiot.

There are proper channels set up to have your voice heard, per rules of a functioning democratic society. Their demands our outrageous and asinine to begin with, and sitting down with a group of idiots only sets precedence for other morons to do the same. There's a reason why every nation refuses to negotiate with terrorists, or idiots.

This is like a receptionist barricading the office door with printers because the CEO told this person they had to be at work at 8 instead of 9. Or like a toddler throwing his dinner all over the table ruining everyone else's food because you said he had to take a bath.

And by your logic, literally all Canadians except the ones who are fucking up the lives of citizens are against these idiots. So yeah, Canadians ARE better than this. I'm ashamed these mouthbreathers are just as Canadian as I am.

Hehe
02-11-2022, 12:35 PM
He does not negotiate with terrorists.

So, people who have different opinion than you are called terrorists now?

Funny how fast that changed from 9/11.

As a democracy, it's not a requirement to have your representative to present your ideas/opinions.

The convoy was not organized in a day. There were people voicing about ending the mandates way before that.

And what did JT do? Nothing... just ignored them completely.

You can't blame everything on the convoy. They had these demands (dropping the mandates) way before the whole convoy was assembled and another week that they reached Ottawa. And where is the gov't all along? They had plenty of time to organize for a dialogue. But nothing. What the fuck is one supposed to do when "proper channels" get ignored?

El Bastardo
02-11-2022, 12:49 PM
And where is the gov't all along? They had plenty of time to organize for a dialogue. But nothing. What the fuck is one supposed to do when "proper channels" get ignored?


Honest and earnest question -

Did the organizers of the convoy actually attempt the "proper channels"? Do they have a list of the MPs who ignored their concerns so they can be held accountable?

You're bringing up a good point, that they may have felt they had no voice at the local level, but given that we see (now retracted) support from some MPs they can't have ALL been ignoring the concerns truckers had.

Hondaracer
02-11-2022, 02:41 PM
Lol ever contacted an MP? Ever petitioned an MLA?

They are all completely useless even for shit that is actually important to their constituents

twitchyzero
02-11-2022, 02:43 PM
trudeau on border protests: "blockades are hurting everyday families"

you mean like the last 2 years when you gave multiple industries and separate families the middle finger?

68style
02-11-2022, 02:45 PM
Anyone who still thinks this convoy has anything whatsoever to do with dropping mandates for truckers at this point is delusional.

twitchyzero
02-11-2022, 03:34 PM
He does not negotiate with terrorists.

we only trade hostages with china

Hondaracer
02-11-2022, 03:36 PM
Send weapons and armaments to Saudi Arabi, deal non stop with China, won’t even talk to his own citizens

JDMDreams
02-11-2022, 03:38 PM
^^ why don't you park your car on Cambie bridge to support them and fight for your freedom and see what happens :awwyeah: make sure you rev to redline and honk your horn

Teriyaki
02-11-2022, 03:39 PM
Anyone else think the infatuation with ONE person is a little bit unhealthy?

68style
02-11-2022, 03:42 PM
There’s proper channels for it. You don’t just wave your hand and say all MLA’s are useless… cuz it’s not true, and even if they’re not listening then park your truck in front of their office.

That’s how Canada’s government works. You don’t just drive to Ottawa and demand an audience with the PM because you’re mad about something. Nevermind the fact these people are in a minuscule minority of selfish fucks who only want society to work at their own convenience and have yet to show anything resembling intelligent discourse. Talk about what? Getting rid of vaccines? Stepping down as PM and letting the Cons take power?

Ridiculous.

Giving these idiots an audience would be the same mistake the internet as a whole made when it first started giving every moron with a computer the ability to obtain an audience through social media. None of these mouth breathes had a platform before and nobody has to listen to their stupidity. Look where that’s gotten us.

This is just a poorly organized and ill focused Canadian version of Jan 6 and nothing more.

Hondaracer
02-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Anyone else think the infatuation with ONE person is a little bit unhealthy?

The irony is the same people who question people calling out Justin have a mental breakdown over Trump or the sight of a red hat KEKW

CivicBlues
02-11-2022, 03:56 PM
Yeah I'd totally want to sit down with someone who drives by my office with a sign of a middle finger and my name in large letters.

JDMDreams
02-11-2022, 04:07 PM
I'm surprised more firms haven't found their employees at this protest and give them consequences

El Bastardo
02-11-2022, 04:12 PM
Lol ever contacted an MP? Ever petitioned an MLA?

They are all completely useless even for shit that is actually important to their constituents


Exactly my point. Had they demonstrated that they TRIED to do this, their protest would have far more impact IMO. They could draw public sentiment and sympathy by saying "We've tried it your way, now we need to do it our way". Its demonstrates that there is a disconnect between the common Canadian and the political class.

Throwing up their hands and saying "Well, contacting the people we're voting probably wouldn't help so HONK HONK HONK" comes off like a temper tantrum. Now the media gets to shape the narrative about it being a bunch of people screaming to get their own way rather than being forced to admit that the system meant to listen to them wasn't there to hear what they had to say. It was the simplest thing they could have done to help their own credibility and they didn't do it.

Also, people have all but forgotten about the Wexit lady who is laughing her way to the bank. No accountability for her. Has she even made an appearance at the event? Have the truckers gotten their costs reimbursed?

Shit. I don't even disagree with folks being upset about having the livelihood impacted. Its been a hard pandemic and folks are scared about getting by. When we all shut down at the beginning of this it got really real really quick. Nobody wants a return to that. No more CERB-like programs are on the horizon and the virus is so prolific that a booster is now needed. I completely sympathize with their fears.

But they're demonstrating in a way that strips their credibility. This whole thing is disjointed and unfocused. The average person involved in the movement can't properly communicate their goals (I read something about people an end to ALL vaccines so... welcome back polio?) and the organizers' meetings that I see streamed live are led by people who look like they're in over their heads.
If you know Ottawa, they're occupying a lot of the commercial district closest to Parliament as well as the street in front of Parliament itself. Conspicuously, however, they haven't taken their frustrations to the U.S. Embassy. For a problem with policy that involves that country as well, they're sure not involving them in the great honkening.

Well, not unless you count waving confederate battle flags and holding MAGA signs for some reason.

Had the protestors contacted their local representation, I'm sure they would have been advised to leave those at home. If their rep was CPC I'm sure they would have said those "Fuck Trudeau" flags were ok.

In any case, the lessons we get from this whole thing are that getting a lot of people really angry get a few people paid really well, and that when you're no longer welcome at the soup kitchen you've harassed you can just build your own (which is frankly, pretty impressive).

Hondaracer
02-11-2022, 05:05 PM
Yeah I'd totally want to sit down with someone who drives by my office with a sign of a middle finger and my name in large letters.

When you’re the long term leader of a G7 country you might occasionally have to deal with “uncomfortable” situations

CivicBlues
02-11-2022, 05:11 PM
Has Biden ever sat down with the MAGAs?

Has Macron sat down with the Yellow Vests?

SkunkWorks
02-11-2022, 06:25 PM
Has Biden ever sat down with the MAGAs?

Has Macron sat down with the Yellow Vests?

Yeah but Candice bergen has sat down with the truckers lol

danned
02-11-2022, 09:41 PM
https://604now.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/convoy-3.jpg

white rocket
02-12-2022, 09:41 AM
^^^Conveniently avoiding Vancouver and surrounding cities? Is this fight for valley residents only now? Lol!!

Freedom, duh.

They literally aren't capable of going past that.

Why are you here?
FREEDOM!
Ok, but what are your demands?
FREEEEDOM!!
...ok, but what are some things you want to see happen?
FFFREEEEEEDOMMMMMMM!!!!

I can't help but look at it this way now. I'm all for protesting against government overreach but this is all so retarded now. Whatever the initial intention was is now long gone.

whitev70r
02-12-2022, 09:50 AM
Yah, hate to say it but we just recently had an election. Libs were pretty upfront about their approach to pandemic, vaccines, mandates, etc. Libs won the election. I prefer the Libs > Cons ... I don't personally like JT but democracy has spoken. Freedom to protest, for sure but when you start affecting majority of people's livelihood, time to go home.

whitev70r
02-12-2022, 10:14 AM
From above posts.

Hey Trucker dad, why can't your son have the freedom to express how he feels? Why are you mandating him how to act and your way to be a 'man'? :considered:

https://twitter.com/Penny_024/status/1490439984062418944

inv4zn
02-12-2022, 12:23 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/surrey-border-protest-feb-12-1.6349787

Apparently they're all gathered at PAC right now...

But they've been blocking PAC for a week now?? Wtf??

Manic!
02-12-2022, 12:39 PM
Rcmp are screening cars going to the boarder.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-rcmp-restricting-access-to-border-crossing-as-hundreds-attend-trucker-convoy-1.5779120

white rocket
02-12-2022, 03:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noH_tjzFKMQ

Lol at the veteran at 2:18 dissing Global.

Manic!
02-12-2022, 04:55 PM
Counter protests.

https://twitter.com/BruceVConway/status/1492578584749301765

Manic!
02-12-2022, 06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/GlobalBC/status/1492656782065418242

320icar
02-12-2022, 07:22 PM
Time for the cops to start bashing some heads in

donk.
02-12-2022, 10:08 PM
Didn't know we had so many jobless hippies in canada

68style
02-13-2022, 01:25 AM
Yah how many of these ding dongs happily took CERB cheques for the last 2 years

Manic!
02-13-2022, 01:43 AM
Pillow fucker.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLboDqAXwAcmAje?format=jpg&name=large

SkinnyPupp
02-13-2022, 02:36 AM
"It's just one flag"

underscore
02-13-2022, 11:30 AM
Now the media gets to shape the narrative about it being a bunch of people screaming to get their own way rather than being forced to admit that the system meant to listen to them wasn't there to hear what they had to say.

They don't even know what they have to say, so why should anyone feel inclined to speak to them?

twitchyzero
02-13-2022, 03:11 PM
members of JTF2/CANSOFCOM supplying the rally :Popcorn

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/two-members-of-military-counter-terrorism-unit-under-investigation-for-allegedly-taking-part-in-convoy-protests

Manic!
02-13-2022, 07:00 PM
Protests are starting to slowly end. The boarder blockade in Ontario has come to an end. The Pac boarder crossing has been mostly cleared. The Ottawa protesters are moving from residential areas. Alberta is the last one that is not moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcq3f9AwbU

JDMDreams
02-13-2022, 10:20 PM
Finally, police doing real police work :notbad:

pastarocket
02-14-2022, 07:11 AM
Your thoughts on this news? Turd is reportedly going to invoke emergency powers in response to the protests in Ottawa. The Emergency Act.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-premiers-cabinet-1.6350734

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has told his caucus he will invoke the never-before-used Emergencies Act to give the federal government extra powers to handle the protests across the country, according to sources.

The Emergencies Act, which replaced the War Measures Act in the 1980s, defines a national emergency as a temporary "urgent and critical situation" that "seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it."

It also gives powers to the prime minister to respond to four different types of emergency scenarios: public welfare (natural disasters, disease), public order (civil unrest), international emergencies and war emergencies.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/truck-convoy-trudeau-reportedly-invoking-emergency-powers-noon-deadline-in-mayor-s-deal-with-convoy/ar-AATPJ4v?ocid=entnewsntp

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will invoke emergency powers in response to the protests in Ottawa, according to CBC.

Trudeau will inform provincial premiers of his decision during a virtual meeting Monday morning, CBC reported, citing unnamed sources.

The prime minister has faced pressure to use the military to end the demonstrations and has repeatedly said he thinks it’s a bad idea. However, in an interview with CTV News, Emergency Preparedness Minister Bill Blair said the government is prepared to use “emergency powers” if needed and characterized border blockades as a national security threat.

Under Canadian law, the federal government can enact emergency powers that allow it to prohibit travel within a specified area or remove personal property, while imposing fines or jail time on people contravening new orders.

Meanwhile, before going on a conference call with Trudeau and provincial premiers Monday morning, Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced the province would lift most pandemic restrictions, including vaccine passports, by March 1. Masking would still be required until at least mid-March

whitev70r
02-14-2022, 07:20 AM
^ Like father like son.

Seriously, they should have prevented instead of reacted. They knew the truckers were coming. In Toronto, they put up road blocks and did not let trucks enter into Queens Park. Go ahead and protest and drive your trucks around and honk your horns ... but no entering these particular areas/zones. As with the Meng case, prevention would have solved a lot of headaches after.

El Bastardo
02-14-2022, 07:29 AM
Invoke emergency powers in response to the protests in Ottawa. The Emergency Act.



He should have just let those protests die out on their own. This isn't a great look because we're at the tail end of the action people are taking. People are going home because they're tired, hungry, and in some cases; freshly unemployed.

This gives some of the more https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-tinfoil.gif suspicious and conspiracy-minded people license to bitch about gub'ment over-reach.

Its a dumb move to do it at this stage, imo. Its like throwing someone out of your house after they've already put on their coat and are headed to the door.


Unrelated but;

I was explaining to someone down here the problems with the protests and the use of children to block the roads to the Windsor/Detroit border. Their immediate response was "just take the children away then" which was.... a response....

I told them that it was a tricky thing to do because of Canada's not-so-spectacular history with that sort of thing and they didn't seem to find it to be too big of a deal.

No matter what people tell you, folks, there is a BIG difference between the American and Canadian perspective on issues sometimes.


Edit: Also unrelated to both points above;

I'm sure this is nothing to worry about, right?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-truck-carrying-2000-firearms-allegedly-stolen-in-peterborough-ont/

whitev70r
02-14-2022, 07:46 AM
^ Damn ... 2000 firearms stolen from truck ... sounds like an inside job. Shitz ... didn't know it was that easy to steal guns ... and so many of them.

I like one line, 'there were no ammunition' ... as to make it sound better ... haha. There are now friggin 2000 guns on the streets, who the hell cares that there wasn't any bullets ... you can get them at Canadian Tire dumbass!

320icar
02-14-2022, 07:53 AM
Isnt it a little too little and way too late?

blkgsr
02-14-2022, 08:55 AM
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-to-lift-vaccine-passport-in-march-next-phase-of-covid-19-reopening-to-begin-early-1.5780257

truckers going to take this as their victory?

so is it just BC holding out now?

TOS'd
02-14-2022, 09:13 AM
https://twitter.com/jonliedtke/status/1493261339250376709
Allegedly the same guy: A 20-year-old Windsor man faces numerous charges after officers on downtown bike patrol stopped a silver BMW and found suspected coke, codeine, Molly, weed, and open alcohol inside. (https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/windsor-police-bicycle-officers-on-downtown-patrol-stop-bmw-seize-suspected-drugs)








https://twitter.com/BreakenridgeYEG/status/1493278102859911168
Found:
13 long guns
handguns
multiple sets of body armour
a machete
a large quantity of ammunition
high capacity magazines

Infiniti
02-14-2022, 09:36 AM
Protests are starting to slowly end. The boarder blockade in Ontario has come to an end. The Pac boarder crossing has been mostly cleared. The Ottawa protesters are moving from residential areas. Alberta is the last one that is not moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcq3f9AwbU

Yeah, no. Downtown Ottawa is still fucked and weekends are a disaster.

sonick
02-14-2022, 10:04 AM
Was in the sunshine coast over the weekend, noticed a ton of supporters.

I think what really bothers me is that this movement has co-opted the Canadian flag and national pride as a symbol of support for 'freedom'.

ImportPsycho
02-14-2022, 10:23 AM
https://youtu.be/J7M_zfE_Ty0?t=114

gosh what an idiot parents
rising a future cop hater.

Razor Ramon HG
02-14-2022, 11:22 AM
Lol, convoy donor list got leaked.

92,845 donors. Largest is Thomas Siebel, CEO of C3.ai at $90,000.

inv4zn
02-14-2022, 11:26 AM
These fucking idiots think they're Mel Gibson shouting Freedom in the face of oppression.

When literally they are ignorant fucks with nothing better to do than yell in the streets.

pastarocket
02-14-2022, 12:57 PM
What the ignorant Flu Trucks Klan don't realize in the bigger scheme of things is the harm that they are doing to the Canadian economy and likely to their own employment.

-listening to Turd's and deputy PM Freeland's speeches:


-increasing Canadian government scrutiny of terrorist financing, including digital currency, crowd funding platforms.

Crowd funding platforms must report suspicious transactions to the Canadian government agency FINTRAC.

Government can freeze bank accounts without a court order. -prevent funding for the truck protesters.

Immediate licence suspension and corporate bank account freezing for truckers in the protest.

Ambassador Bridge has about 390 million dollars worth of trade each day between Canada and US, as a transport route.


Deputy PM Freeland helps Turd lay down the hammer against the trucker protesters:

Freeland: "Illegal protests cannot stand, in the way of peace, order, and good government"

"This CANNOT stand".

-more information about the Emergencies Act:

The Emergencies Act replaced the War Measures Act in 1988 and is more limited in what it can do, including requiring parliamentary oversight. All measures invoked under the Emergencies Act must also comply with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Turd mentioned that there are no plans to deploy the military.

Turd says the scope of these measures will be “time-limited, geographically targeted, as well as reasonable and proportionate to the threats they are meant to address.”

westopher
02-14-2022, 01:59 PM
They realize it, they just don't care. This has nothing to do with freedom or mandates anymore. They are just using that as buzz to get the ignorant to latch on to their "movement" and manipulate others into believing they are far more supported than they are.
They are limiting the freedoms of normal Canadians to work and feel comfortable in their own communities.
"freedom for me, not for you" should be the motto.

twitchyzero
02-14-2022, 03:03 PM
No matter what people tell you, folks, there is a BIG difference between the American and Canadian perspective on issues sometimes.

it's already different enough from Texas vs Washington

Rallydrv
02-14-2022, 03:12 PM
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-to-lift-vaccine-passport-in-march-next-phase-of-covid-19-reopening-to-begin-early-1.5780257

truckers going to take this as their victory?

so is it just BC holding out now?


well, elections are in a few months.

Manic!
02-14-2022, 08:06 PM
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/ram-ranch-resistance-takes-over-trucker-protest-zello/

Guy joins the Windsor protesters’ Zello channel, becomes a mod and trolls the fuck out of them. Making them bring the wrong supplies and making them fight each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsYX40q4W4

eclipseman
02-14-2022, 08:36 PM
Lol, convoy donor list got leaked.

92,845 donors. Largest is Thomas Siebel, CEO of C3.ai at $90,000.

56% of donations came from USA, 29% from Canada. Lol.

TOS'd
02-14-2022, 08:59 PM
Finally, "the act also will enable the RCMP to enforce municipal bylaws and provincial offences where required."

Fianlly RCMP can takeover and enforce what Sloly and Ottawa Police Services failed to do.

inv4zn
02-14-2022, 08:59 PM
Trudeau invokes Emergencies Act (fucking finally).
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-makes-history-invokes-emergencies-act-to-address-trucker-protests-1.5780283

New powers through the act:
- Enabling the RCMP to have the jurisdiction to enforce municipal bylaws and provincial offenses;
- Prohibiting taking part in a public assembly where it’s considered a breach of peace and goes beyond lawful protest;
- Regulating the use of certain property, including goods used in blockades;
- Designating secure and protected places and infrastructure that are critical to the economy such as border crossings and airports;
- Compelling those capable to render essential services, so in this case ordering tow truck drivers to move vehicles blocking roads;
- Authorizing financial institutions to essentially stop the financing efforts, including immediately freezing or suspending affiliated accounts without a court order; and
- Imposing fines of up to $5,000 or imprisonment of up to five years on those who breach any of the above orders.

He did state he's not calling in the military against Canadian citizens, and that the scope of this act is both targeted and limited, and expires in 30 days - but of course the crazies are foaming calling this the first step to authoritarianism.

There's also a theory (which I think isn't too wrong) that during the Biden/Trudeau call, Biden essentially told Trudeau "Listen, war is imminent in Ukraine, fix this shit NOW."

underscore
02-14-2022, 09:09 PM
From the arrests at Coutts. I spy some handguns and unpinned mags. Someones gonna have some prison time.

https://i.redd.it/j9b8dkoa9wh81.jpg

TOS'd
02-15-2022, 06:46 AM
Windsor, Ontario Follow up: https://twitter.com/jonliedtke/status/1493605858231607303

StylinRed
02-15-2022, 07:32 AM
Trudeau invokes Emergencies Act (fucking finally).
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-makes-history-invokes-emergencies-act-to-address-trucker-protests-1.5780283

New powers through the act:
- Enabling the RCMP to have the jurisdiction to enforce municipal bylaws and provincial offenses;
- Prohibiting taking part in a public assembly where it’s considered a breach of peace and goes beyond lawful protest;
- Regulating the use of certain property, including goods used in blockades;
- Designating secure and protected places and infrastructure that are critical to the economy such as border crossings and airports;
- Compelling those capable to render essential services, so in this case ordering tow truck drivers to move vehicles blocking roads;
- Authorizing financial institutions to essentially stop the financing efforts, including immediately freezing or suspending affiliated accounts without a court order; and
- Imposing fines of up to $5,000 or imprisonment of up to five years on those who breach any of the above orders.

He did state he's not calling in the military against Canadian citizens, and that the scope of this act is both targeted and limited, and expires in 30 days - but of course the crazies are foaming calling this the first step to authoritarianism.

There's also a theory (which I think isn't too wrong) that during the Biden/Trudeau call, Biden essentially told Trudeau "Listen, war is imminent in Ukraine, fix this shit NOW."

I think it's actually fucked up that trudeau invoked it.

For this? Seriously? It's supposed to be the last step if at all

I'm surprised ppl are agreeing with it, I guess covid has everyone fkd up

68style
02-15-2022, 07:58 AM
Did you watch the news conference?

Written and spoken often don't read the same way.

He was extremely careful to reiterate over and over that he was only using it to give police more power to fine people and remove illegal blockades and that it would only remain in place for the time required and be geographically targeted, not a national use of it.

I'm all for it if it allows the RCMP to get rid of these dumb fuckers.

He was overly descriptive to a point of painful about how little of the actual act he was invoking.

Great68
02-15-2022, 08:26 AM
From the arrests at Coutts. I spy some handguns and unpinned mags. Someones gonna have some prison time.

https://i.redd.it/j9b8dkoa9wh81.jpg

Holy shit. Well I hope the people that brought those learn the hard way that Canada's gun laws don't fuck around.

pastarocket
02-15-2022, 08:27 AM
Did you watch the news conference?



Written and spoken often don't read the same way.



He was extremely careful to reiterate over and over that he was only using it to give police more power to fine people and remove illegal blockades and that it would only remain in place for the time required and be geographically targeted, not a national use of it.



I'm all for it if it allows the RCMP to get rid of these dumb fuckers.



He was overly descriptive to a point of painful about how little of the actual act he was invoking.





100 percent.



Yes, Trudeau made it crystal clear that the military are not involved in removing these protesters. Additional power and resources are given to the local police and RCMP.



Turd is certainly not calling a bunch of mercenaries, Rambo, to clean house on these Flu Truck Klan. That would be just a Hollywood movie scenario. LUL

StylinRed
02-15-2022, 08:39 AM
Did you watch the news conference?

Written and spoken often don't read the same way.

He was extremely careful to reiterate over and over that he was only using it to give police more power to fine people and remove illegal blockades and that it would only remain in place for the time required and be geographically targeted, not a national use of it.

I'm all for it if it allows the RCMP to get rid of these dumb fuckers.

He was overly descriptive to a point of painful about how little of the actual act he was invoking.

I did, I still disagree

Even if we dislike these protesters, we should respect their right to protest, even if it's a prolonged one, this is overboard.

Did he, or anyone, even try to speak with their reps? (do they have reps? Lol) all I've seen from him is wagging his finger at them from the get go. I'm sure if someone offered an ear to them we'd see most of them leave

pastarocket
02-15-2022, 08:43 AM
Chief Sloly is resigning as Ottawa police chief. LUL

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sloly-ottawa-resigns-behaviour-leadership-1.6352295

JDMDreams
02-15-2022, 08:46 AM
Honk honk honk

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pcr-test-arrival-travel-drop-1.6350469

68style
02-15-2022, 08:58 AM
How is it a legitimate protest anymore when you’re blocking ports of entry, harassing people and forcing businesses and companies to shut down? Nevermind the fact they have no discernible message besides “Fuck Trudeau / the government”

They’re hurting upstanding citizens of this country with their actions. If you worked at auto manufacturer or had a coffee shop in downtown Ottawa or lived in downtown Ottawa are you still saying these people have rights to fuck up your life?l cuz they hate Trudeau?

That’s all this is… it’s not a freedom or even an antivax protest… it’s a fuck lefties march waving a Canadian flag which is extra galling since it promotes the idea these people somehow represent Canadian values.. Why should he give them an ear?

inv4zn
02-15-2022, 09:17 AM
I did, I still disagree

Even if we dislike these protesters, we should respect their right to protest, even if it's a prolonged one, this is overboard.

Did he, or anyone, even try to speak with their reps? (do they have reps? Lol) all I've seen from him is wagging his finger at them from the get go. I'm sure if someone offered an ear to them we'd see most of them leave

No man - this has gone so far past "protest", we're way past that this point.

Protesting is when you stand on the sidewalks with picket signs. It could even be that you start walking on the streets with picket signs. Hell, you can even superglue yourself to the highway during rush hour and that could still be considered a protest, as annoying as it is.

When you organize a "protest" with the purpose of disrupting literally innocent citizens and occupying streets and border crossings to cripple the economy all the while harassing people that don't agree with your stupid cause, that stops being a protest. I didn't even mention the guns and swastikas.

If you have beef with your neighbour, you sit down and talk with him if he rings your doorbell and asks to talk. If he bangs on your door for a week and then camps on your lawn with an air horn, you're not gonna talk to him. You're going to call the police.

JDMDreams
02-15-2022, 09:53 AM
^^ you go on Microsoft paint and make yourself a special snow flake exemption card. :accepted::troll:

El Bastardo
02-15-2022, 10:08 AM
I want to give the protestors credit in that the property damage was minimal (maybe non existent?) and there were no serious injuries or deaths.

Last summer's protests in a much smaller, much less important city saw some serious riots erupt into three deaths, a handful of injuries and 50 million dollars of damage to the city. This was a completely different situation, I know, but over a fraction of the time much more damage was done.

As much as some of us may disagree with the protestors, their cause, and their actions, they didn't try to burn the city.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/08/CNN-Headline-Fiery-2.jpg

They also didn't storm Parliament even though many of them seemed to have some very big problems with the current administration.

https://cdn.britannica.com/07/221007-050-0B9861FF/Pro-Trump-supporters-storm-US-Capitol-January-6-2021-Washington-DC.jpg

They made their voices heard, nothing fundamentally changed, but I don't think any funerals are being held as a result of the last few weeks.

inv4zn
02-15-2022, 10:23 AM
^That's a bit disingenuous.

BLM protests are soooo far down the political rabbit hole, it should be classified in its own category. Also our stupid protest is for something that's happened only recently. Police shooting black people and then going meh has been going on for decades.

The January 6th insurrection too, is the result of poor education and years of indoctrination mixed in with room temperature IQs all catalyzed by a fat old man they decided to worship...so yeah, "Well at least they didn't storm the Parliament building" isn't really some positive thing. Thank fuck we're not there yet.

If you're going to try and draw parallels to other protests, it should be the wet'suwet'en protests...and we all know how quick the RCMP came in guns blazing on that one. That's a travesty on its own.

https://i.imgflip.com/43gv7a.jpg

Manic!
02-15-2022, 10:27 AM
Citizens block convoy on Ottawa

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours

Most of the people I spoke to were surprised at the resistance. I think the convoy is under the false impression that they have unwavering popular support. It helps them to see opposition.”




These guys are so brainwashed by social media.

JDMDreams
02-15-2022, 10:33 AM
Good on them,

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1a2c8e3aacc5e64e3c6a467f25b23263/tumblr_mzbb9bflr81s4vcz6o1_640.jpg

Citizens block convoy on Ottawa

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours



These guys are so brainwashed by social media.

unit
02-15-2022, 11:40 AM
take the average protester waving flags around and crying about freedom, then just try to get them into a civilized conversation with trudeau and then you'll realize why trudeau won't meet with them.

it's like if biden went to meet with a trump worshipper.. what is the point of that exercise?

mikemhg
02-15-2022, 12:24 PM
56% of donations came from USA, 29% from Canada. Lol.

I'm glad this is finally coming out to the public more.

For years we've seen this American populist movement sprouting within Canada online.

To people following this it was very apparent it was not a real grassroots movement, but one vacillated by dark money, EXACTLY how the Tea Party had started.

We never had the ability to truly prove what was going on the last few years here -- this has been a great example to show how much outside US influence from monied plutocrats can put their thumb on societal discourse.

whitev70r
02-15-2022, 12:33 PM
They cleared Ambassador Bridge without the Emergency Act ... couldn't they use the same negotiators? I recall Ford did enact the Provincial Emergency Act ... what is the difference? Having said that, Ottawa is in Ontario as with Windsor, whatever tactic they used, that seemed like a successful approach.

I do think that JT imposing the Emergency Act plays right into the hands of the protesters. They will say, 'see, JT is totalitarian regime.'

320icar
02-15-2022, 12:38 PM
My cars in the shop and it’s been delayed days with no ETA because of the stupid truckers and no parts getting through

CivicBlues
02-15-2022, 01:53 PM
They cleared Ambassador Bridge without the Emergency Act ... couldn't they use the same negotiators? I recall Ford did enact the Provincial Emergency Act ... what is the difference? Having said that, Ottawa is in Ontario as with Windsor, whatever tactic they used, that seemed like a successful approach.

I do think that JT imposing the Emergency Act plays right into the hands of the protesters. They will say, 'see, JT is totalitarian regime.'

Totalitarian is too big a word for these rubes.

SeE!! TruDoPe Is A CoMmUnIst!!!

Hehe
02-15-2022, 03:34 PM
What bothers me is JT imposing Emergency act without first trying to have a dialogue at the pretence of what? National security and peace?

This is no different than the genocide and suppression going on in China. All for the sake of "peace".

I'm sure all the suppression back then when US and Canada were still colonies was for "peace" as well.

/s

westopher
02-15-2022, 03:52 PM
How obtuse to you have to be to say sitting down for a reasonable conversation with these people is a feasible course of action.
“Every pandemic measure will be lifted or the current government will resign their positions and be replaced with our choice”
“Hey guys just wanted to come out and compromise with your totally reasonable and well thought out demands!”
We did have an election that put these politicians in place, should a few thousand people who have decided they are a valid group to appoint a new government be given a platform to come to a REASONABLE solution?
Not sure where the /S is, if it's your whole post, so not sure if this comment is directed at you, or the people you are making fun of, if you are.

320icar
02-15-2022, 05:04 PM
Bro just put him on your ignore list. He’s been on mine since pre-trump

Bouncing Bettys
02-15-2022, 05:32 PM
How obtuse to you have to be to say sitting down for a reasonable conversation with these people is a feasible course of action.
“Every pandemic measure will be lifted or the current government will resign their positions and be replaced with our choice”
“Hey guys just wanted to come out and compromise with your totally reasonable and well thought out demands!”
We did have an election that put these politicians in place, should a few thousand people who have decided they are a valid group to appoint a new government be given a platform to come to a REASONABLE solution?
Not sure where the /S is, if it's your whole post, so not sure if this comment is directed at you, or the people you are making fun of, if you are.

https://youtu.be/P8tzXazvyHQ

westopher
02-15-2022, 05:53 PM
At an “emergency press conference” held by some of the protest organizers on Monday night and later posted on YouTube, self-declared spokesperson Tom Marazzo proposed that a core group of organizers and their supporters could sit at a table “with the Conservatives, and the NDP, and the Bloc as a coalition.”

Though this suggestion is “a non-starter,” according to Michael Kempa, associate professor of criminology at the University of Ottawa. “No other external party can become part of a coalition government. That's just not how a constitutional democracy works,” Kempa said in an interview Tuesday on CTV News Channel.
Why can't you just type or copy paste instead of communicating through youtube videos?
One organizing group, Canada Unity, is demanding that government leaders either repeal the mandates or "RESIGN their lawful positions of authority immediately."

whitev70r
02-15-2022, 06:17 PM
Does anyone have friends from the Eastern Bloc countries? Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, ...or anyone on here from there? I find that they have very strong views about government taking away their freedoms. But I think they are seeing this from their history ... They think JT is the next Ceausescu.

westopher
02-15-2022, 06:28 PM
I find my friends that are Canadian raised and from those countries as very early life immigrants or first gen Canadians tend to fall in that category, but those who are more recent immigrants think that it’s absurd what Canadians see as “our rights being trampled”
I’m generalizing a bit for sure, from my experience as it’s of course not a one size fits all, but those that have seen real loss of freedoms, war and erosion of human rights as a young adult or grown up know what real facism looks like.

Manic!
02-15-2022, 07:08 PM
https://youtu.be/P8tzXazvyHQ

https://www.transportationnation.com/punjabis-dominating-canadian-trucking-and-will-soon-be-majority-in-california/

The Punjabi community has emerged as the clear majority of the Canadian trucking industry.

Industry experts now estimate that about 60% of the Canadian trucking industry is controlled by people of Punjabi origin.

Ya but let's have some random white guy represent all truckers in Canada.

None of the trucking organizations including the Teamsters support these protests.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272185717_2887666431455774_1362216630506277154_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=C8WPz28xKs4AX_UIN_a&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT9ICjTsYgttbTh7E1tKndxLtBo1HdFFcUvztJOoHeTF hA&oe=6211207F

What a real trucker protest in BC looks like.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/201079492_2740488379506914_4207043716343769127_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=5QTXqg9PyFwAX_WTE-H&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT-qCftZaE5mdZS_JnwbIUryg92-b1T80SqLsCXGf5jcFA&oe=623139C2

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/201003833_2739786996243719_6847581754495043540_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=P5wMJtKJLg0AX-vDsvb&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT823ErCKWxxciNWe2ogSGrE__ytQ47s3IjubUrMiu95 bQ&oe=62304F52

Truckers are very well organized in this country and don't need a out of work freelance programmer or some nut job from Alberta leading them.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/123358286_2578701945685559_2159514707586958783_n.p ng?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=DeeTTipii9wAX_h65HT&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT8IJ624t9BqMGIJWy2mZLhAVz4dFYd_NK_r2Ur73HvP Zg&oe=6233F065

Edit: that guy is also reading from a script.

inv4zn
02-15-2022, 07:39 PM
This is no different than the genocide and suppression going on in China. All for the sake of "peace".

I'm sure all the suppression back then when US and Canada were still colonies was for "peace" as well.

/s

Wow you're pretty fucking ignorant.

/s

underscore
02-15-2022, 08:54 PM
I'm curious what other options Trudeau actually has. If people don't think he should be using the Emergency Act then what else should he be doing? If you're going to say he can't use the Act then you should probably have some clue since Ottawa Police haven't done anything, the provinces haven't done anything, so now it's a federal issue.

What bothers me is JT imposing Emergency act without first trying to have a dialogue at the pretence of what? National security and peace?

With who? Last I checked one of the organizers is MIA and the other doesn't even want to talk to Trudeau.

whitev70r
02-15-2022, 09:12 PM
^ As with all diplomacy ... back Channels. Apparently, ex-Doug Ford Assistant was making some sort of progress with Ottawa truckers? There are always back channels if JT doesn't want to appear to meet with the protesters. I'm sure there were to alleviate the Detroit/Windsor Ambassador bridge stand off.

Doug Ford's ex-chief of staff leads back-channel talks between City of Ottawa, protesters
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ottawa-protest-back-channel-talks-dean-french-1.6352951

Manic!
02-16-2022, 02:30 AM
They look defeated.

https://mobile.twitter.com/consumersos/status/1493569750726856707?s=10

El Bastardo
02-16-2022, 05:22 AM
I listened to a NY Times podcast ep this morning "summarizing" the event and it misses a lot of the nuance surrounding the protest. It touched on the fact that the protestors were largely not representative of the trucking industry as a whole and brushed on the fact that there were alt-right elements embedded deep within.
It had this weird bit where they talked about how compliant Canadians usually were, which set up the real message; "If these normally docile Canadians are protesting, this must really be unjust".
The narrative got turned around at the end and seemed to imply this was a "small guy against the government" moment and gave this a community activism spin with a conversation happening over a grilled burger (like its been one big BBQ in Ottawa for the last few weeks).

It ended off with a "we're all one big family" message at the end.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/16/podcasts/the-daily/canada-truckers-protests.html

I know its hard to summarize Canadian politics to Americans and make it palatable, but this felt really weird to me. I'd expect this kind of docile messaging from The Post but not the The Times.

westopher
02-16-2022, 08:54 AM
Hugs over masks.
Four Alberta men are in custody accused of plotting to murder RCMP officers and nine other people are facing weapons and mischief offences as part of what RCMP say was a significant and organized threat by a heavily armed group at the Coutts border protest – and the first public steps in an continuing RCMP investigation into illegal activity at the blockade.
“I can tell you that this threat was very serious,” said Southern Alberta RCMP Chief Superintendent Trevor Daroux, speaking at an RCMP press conference Tuesday evening.
The arrests began after RCMP tactical officers raided two camper trailers and a mobile home on 1st Avenue North in Coutts shortly after midnight on Monday.
Chris Carbert, 44; Christopher Lysak, 48; Anthony Olienick, 39; and Jerry Morin, 40, are charged with possession of weapons for a dangerous purpose and mischief over $5,000, in addition to the conspiracy to commit murder charges. Mr. Lysak faces an additional charge of uttering threats.
Six more men – Luke Berk, 62; Johnson Law, 39; Evan Colenutt, 23; Justin Martin, 22; Eastin Stewart Oler, 22; and Janx Zaremba, 18 – and three women – Joanne Person, 62; Jaclyne Martin, 39; and Ursula Allred, 22 – are also charged with mischief and unlawful weapons offences in relation to the blockade.
“Monday’s weapons seizure and subsequent arrests speak to the serious criminal activities taking place during this protest and illegal blockade. The dangerous criminal activity occurring away from the TV cameras and social-media posts was real and organized,” said Deputy Commissioner Curtis Zablocki. “It could have been deadly for citizens, protesters and officers.”

Chief Supt. Daroux said RCMP were in touch with protest organizers before the blockade began, seeking to balance the rights of citizens to protest with an open border and public safety. He said police were initially assured the protest would remain peaceful and lawful, but that once protesters established themselves at the border, “it very rapidly became an unlawful protest with some very real safety concerns.”
While RCMP have faced questions and criticism over videos that appeared to show police being friendly with protesters – even hugging them – he said the operation was focused on safety, but that officers were gathering evidence at all times, and that an investigation into illegal activity during the blockade is continuing, with more charges expected.
“The lack of what you see, visible enforcement, doesn’t preclude enforcement from coming and investigation continuing after that,” he said. “These are very dynamic situations. A lot of those facts will come out through the courts, but I can assure you that where the evidence is available, charges will be laid and individuals will be brought to court.”
Last border blockade to be dismantled as protesters in Emerson, Man., agree to leave
A photo released by RCMP after the arrests showed a large cache of firearms and ammunition seized from the property, including 13 long guns, many with scopes, as well as loads of ammunition, high-capacity magazines, handguns, body armour, a large machete, and walkie-talkies.

The RCMP confirmed the location of the raid in Coutts. No one answered the door at the property Tuesday morning.
On the night of the raid, an account with the same name as Ms. Person wrote on Facebook that RCMP officers were on her property.
“The full tactical is at my home and they are [telling] us to leave the home and that they are entering. My god. Please help us,” she wrote Monday morning at 12:21 a.m. She later wrote that she needed a lawyer. “There is swat and tactical [surrounding] my yard,” she wrote three minutes later.
One of the campers in the yard bore the slogan “Lets Go Brandon!,” a political slam at U.S. President Joe Biden. Outside, there was a case of Pilsner beer and a barbecue, along with coolers, gas cans and propane tanks.
Dealing with the charges at Lethbridge Provincial Court on Tuesday, court heard the individuals were in quarantine, and therefore could not appear by video-link as their matters were dealt with. Given the circumstances, their appearances were waived by both the defence and Crown.
The four men facing the conspiracy to commit murder charges were remanded in custody for bail hearings, and are currently slated to be back in court on Friday. Mr. Colenutt was also remanded in custody until Friday, pending a bail hearing.
The other eight accused, who live in Red Deer, Calgary, Coutts and Turner Valley, were all released with the consent of the Crown under a number of conditions, including having no contact with their co-accused, not being in or near public protests, and having no weapons or firearms. Their charges were all adjourned until March 15.
During the proceedings, court heard that three of the accused – Mr. Martin, Ms. Allred and Mr. Oler – are roommates – and that they work with Mr. Zaremba at a Calgary LED lighting company. The connection between the other accused, and whether they knew each other before the blockade or met at the scene, is not clear.
RCMP say possible ties to larger extremist groups remain under investigation, and that more charges are possible, related both to the group and to other illegal activity at the border blockade.
Social-media posts by several of the individuals reflect anti-vaccination, anti-mask, conspiracy and anti-government sentiment. Body armour seized by RCMP in the raid includes patches identified with conspiracy and far-right movements.
On social media, Mr. Carbert and Mr. Lysak have both interacted with posts by a man described by the Canadian Anti-Hate Network as the leader of a radical far-right movement that wants to bring about the dissolution of Canada, and the formation of a new country.
Mr. Carbert, one of the accused charged with conspiracy to commit murder against the RCMP, posted often about conspiracy theories, and expressed a willingness to die for those beliefs.
”I will die fighting for what I believe is right and I mean this,” Mr. Carbert wrote in October.


https://apple.news/AQxSIKPq1T4aBHqaeNup-0Q

68style
02-16-2022, 09:04 AM
They look defeated.

https://mobile.twitter.com/consumersos/status/1493569750726856707?s=10

Love how he says "standing up for all Canadians"

Speak for yourself twat... didn't elect your dumb ass or need you to stand up for me

Tapioca
02-16-2022, 09:51 AM
The irony is that if it wasn't for Pierre Trudeau, there would be no Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada.

He was the driving force for entrenching individual rights as part of Canada's constitution. If it hadn't been for him, individual rights and freedoms could be legislated away depending on the whims of the government of the day. (and no, the 1961 Bill of Rights doesn't count because it was a federal law that did not have the protection of the prior Constitution).

What we are seeing today is a failure of our education system to teach a basic understanding of law and governance.

JDMDreams
02-16-2022, 10:56 AM
I think it was right to put the emergency act, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I'm surprised they didn't step in earlier. It's just to set an example, yes you have the right to protest but you don't have the right to affect other people's freedom and well being.

If they didn't do anything then the next hillbilly group can just do the same thing. Tree huggers, flat earther, pipe liners etc etc. And these demands have no scientific/ logical backing. How the f are you gonna have no restrictions in a pandemic. What if there's a new variant? Everyone goes outside to mouth breath and yell freedom?? :lawl: any laws don't apply to your personal freedom? Then get the fuck out of Canada and buy your own country.

whitev70r
02-16-2022, 11:03 AM
Classic 101 foundational principle. Of course you have personal freedoms and rights but when you live with others in a society, city, nation, etc., someone (government) has to balance things out for the common good. And in a democracy, we elect that government.

It's like some people cannot hold 2 or more ideas together at the same time.

Hondaracer
02-16-2022, 12:20 PM
https://youtu.be/kEaFVRwilME

Great68
02-16-2022, 12:37 PM
From what I understand, the government needs to pass their reasons for invoking the emergency act to the house & senate for a confirmation vote within 7 days.
So it will be interesting if this passes through when that happens.

Manic!
02-16-2022, 02:00 PM
Pillow fucker not allowed into Canada.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/my-pillows-mike-lindell-barred-from-entering-canada-to-support-convoy-protestors

Hondaracer
02-16-2022, 02:36 PM
Turd stops a truck full of pillows “heheh we’re winning!”

68style
02-16-2022, 02:37 PM
I clapped reading that...

Imagine the CEO of an actual company saying stuff like "made up a permit!" and not knowing vaccination policies to cross into another country... lol

68style
02-16-2022, 02:38 PM
Turd stops a truck full of pillows “heheh we’re winning!”

Hey he's just protecting our markets from a flood of cheaper priced (re: free) pillows, that's what you want isn't it? Protect Canadian interests? :troll:

Hondaracer
02-16-2022, 02:39 PM
My neck feels like I coulda used one of dem pillows

Rallydrv
02-16-2022, 04:09 PM
My neck feels like I coulda used one of dem pillows

Gonna dream of Trump on them pillows

Manic!
02-16-2022, 06:17 PM
pat king has now left Ottawa. What a loser.

https://twitter.com/kimsopha2/status/1494009807434616839?s=10

and this:

https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/1494039986714337287

SkinnyPupp
02-16-2022, 06:38 PM
These people are literally the same who invaded the Capitol Building on 1/6, just some Canadians being duped into following them.

inv4zn
02-16-2022, 08:48 PM
These people are literally the same who invaded the Capital Building on 1/6, just some Canadians being duped into following them.

Gonna be that guy, it's capitol

SkinnyPupp
02-16-2022, 08:51 PM
https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/1494106335280910342

The Producer
02-16-2022, 08:52 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/su0n9y/ontario_man_snaps_and_roasts_every_single_person/ you gotta do the full version.

NSFW NSFW NSFW

TOS'd
02-16-2022, 09:11 PM
From tonight: Tamara Lich - believes she is going to jail soon/tmr:https://twitter.com/Tamara_MVC/status/1494171730457370628


EDIT: this is from Sunday apparently, he's been in Ottawa still.
Pat King - being an "investigative journalist" and skipping town to go to New Brunswick to cover something "big":
https://twitter.com/ItsDeanBlundell/status/1494072212004950018

Some people think he's not actually heading to NB, but going into hiding for what is potentially to happen soon/tmr in Ottawa.

Teriyaki
02-16-2022, 09:20 PM
By god that was a good watch. 5/5 would recommend

Traum
02-16-2022, 09:27 PM
I think it was right to put the emergency act, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I'm surprised they didn't step in earlier. It's just to set an example, yes you have the right to protest but you don't have the right to affect other people's freedom and well being.

If I am understanding the Emergency Act correctly, it is not supposed to be called into use unless there is no other legislation or means that can be used to "do something". There has been a lot of criticism from the press, premiers, and activists saying that this high bar has not been met.

One particular item that I think was done under the Emergency Act was to close down at least 2 of the crowdfunding efforts for the "truckers" -- I think they were GoFundMe and Give Send Go. My layman understanding of the law is woefully inadequate here, but I suspect the power to do this would lie outside of provincial jurisdiction. So even though the Emergency Act seems heavy-handed, I suppose there is enough justification for it?

68style
02-16-2022, 11:16 PM
Pat has 5 many things to do in NB

Surprised he can count that high!

Manic!
02-17-2022, 12:58 AM
//////

westopher
02-17-2022, 06:19 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/su0n9y/ontario_man_snaps_and_roasts_every_single_person/ you gotta do the full version.

NSFW NSFW NSFW
This guy for prime minister.

Hondaracer
02-17-2022, 06:36 AM
This guy for prime minister.

He's doing a better job than the current OpieOP

westopher
02-17-2022, 06:41 AM
I thought it was “NOO TURD DONT BE MEAN YOURE DIVIDING US”

Hondaracer
02-17-2022, 06:47 AM
He's actually uniting Canada on both sides in their dislike of him :troll:

pastarocket
02-17-2022, 10:41 AM
Hmmm. Fencing is going up around government buildings such as the Senate building on Parliament Hill.

Huge increase in police presence in Ottawa. Tactical squad of police from Quebec are in Ottawa now.

Weather forecast is heavy snow in Ottawa from today until Friday. 20 to 30cm of snow.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-protest-occupy-news-updates-feb-17-1.6354814

-from the article:

Fences were being set up that morning in front of government buildings including Parliament Hill and the Senate. Police vehicles were seen gathering at the EY Centre near the international airport to the south.

The response now includes an unspecified number of Quebec provincial police. According to Radio-Canada sources, members of the Sûreté du Québec's tactical intervention squad will work under the command of the Ontario Provincial Police.

TOS'd
02-17-2022, 11:02 AM
:Popcorn


Another hero:
https://twitter.com/JorgeBarrera/status/1494375401140981770


New interim chief of police resigns after 48 hours:
https://twitter.com/kateportercbc/status/1494393900689244164

Manic!
02-17-2022, 11:19 AM
“I hacked Epic hosting, I hacked Parler, I hacked Gab, I hacked Truth Social, I hacked GiveSendGo, I don’t care,” Cottle added. “I’m literally a famous fucking cyberterrorist, and you think that you can scare me?”

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q88w/givesendgo-hacker-aubrey-cottle-freedom-convoy?utm_source=reddit.com

Great68
02-17-2022, 11:32 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/su0n9y/ontario_man_snaps_and_roasts_every_single_person/ you gotta do the full version.

NSFW NSFW NSFW

Oh man, the intonation of how he says "Fuck off" at the 3:00 mark is just fantastic, like with the up and down pitch, perfect Canadian accent. It's just missing the "eh" after. I'm in stitches!

quasi
02-17-2022, 11:33 AM
They don't all wear capes.

:Popcorn


Another hero:
https://twitter.com/JorgeBarrera/status/1494375401140981770

Hondaracer
02-17-2022, 11:36 AM
How long before an innocent counter protester gets his head bashed in from police inaction etc?

TOS'd
02-17-2022, 11:39 AM
Canadian Constitution Foundation (CCF)
https://twitter.com/cvangeyn/status/1494374922453409795

68style
02-17-2022, 11:47 AM
I tried to go to theccf.ca and it says the site is down for maintenance lol

SumAznGuy
02-17-2022, 11:56 AM
I tried to go to theccf.ca and it says the site is down for maintenance lol

Hmmm, Google says based out of Calgary.
They have a page against the vaccine mandate.

Why am I not surprised.

Manic!
02-17-2022, 12:02 PM
Pillow Fulkerson now wants to airdrop pillows to protesters.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mypillow-guy-mike-lindell-plans-to-drop-pillows-from-the-sky-over-canada-in-support-of-trucker-vax-protest

westopher
02-17-2022, 12:04 PM
There is no way we aren’t living in some alternate reality.
Nazi pillow companies raining pillows from the sky to anti vaccine protesters? What the literal fuck is fucking going on.

68style
02-17-2022, 12:08 PM
I’m waiting for him to set up a pillow version of a t shirt cannon at the border and start firing them over

GLOW
02-17-2022, 12:27 PM
i was reading the reddit posts while watching it, man this guy *DOES* remind me of ricky from trailer park boys, sounds like him, swearing double bird and all :lol

El Bastardo
02-17-2022, 12:48 PM
There is no way we aren’t living in some alternate reality.
Nazi pillow companies raining pillows from the sky to anti vaccine protesters? What the literal fuck is fucking going on.

There was a UK TV show called "Eden" where people were taken out of society in early/mid 2016 and lived in the wilderness for a full year. When they came back Brexit and Trump's election had happened.
For us it was a slow and steady rise to that point but for the contestants of that gameshow it was a sudden dunk into the deep end.

The alternate reality that you're talking about is Canada's future. Its been "pillow man anti vax" down here for a while and we're all kind of "Oh yeah, pillow man is up to his shit again" because we're used to it, but when that kind of smoothbrained logic gets applied north of the border you see it and think "What the fuck kind of clown show is this?"

Enjoy the ride but reject the message, folks.

320icar
02-17-2022, 01:23 PM
Maybe the Russia/Ukraine wwIII will be good. Open the draft, make real men again and show society what real hard times are like

Inb4 my buttery soft man-paws gets RIP’d moments after society collapses into the thunder dome

68style
02-17-2022, 01:41 PM
^ Actual picture of you going into battle:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/f7/f0/f2f7f090e648820e3375f146f27db9d0.jpg

westopher
02-17-2022, 01:45 PM
Replace the axe with a giant carbon fibre wing.

Manic!
02-17-2022, 01:48 PM
https://twitter.com/BaazNewsOrg/status/1494430801525710848

Ya not a racist

westopher
02-17-2022, 01:53 PM
Lol yagmeet. Does this guy think Jagmeet is Dutch or something?

68style
02-17-2022, 03:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/q9vacdj.jpg

Hondaracer
02-17-2022, 03:18 PM
Lololol

El Bastardo
02-17-2022, 04:00 PM
Hes reading the American script but swapping the word "Mexican" for "Sikh".
"Blah blah blah. They're taking over. Blah blah blah. Only hire their own"
What a lazy slob. He can't even come up with original racism.

TOS'd
02-17-2022, 04:01 PM
This video is good:
https://twitter.com/ARCCollective/status/1494445926148030464

SkinnyPupp
02-17-2022, 04:27 PM
This video is good:
https://twitter.com/ARCCollective/status/1494445926148030464
Sounds like someone is trying to get someone else to implicate themselves, or feigning ignorance

But I don't know maybe they're just a bunch of dummies who got duped by white nationalist grifters. Or they're white nationalist grifters.

TOS'd
02-17-2022, 04:43 PM
Tamara Lich arrested:
https://twitter.com/joe_warmington/status/1494486976963260449


EDIT Video link:
https://twitter.com/rfreedomconvoy/status/1494494256978972674

68style
02-17-2022, 05:08 PM
Well that lichs :fullofwin:

Teriyaki
02-17-2022, 05:11 PM
Surprised she didn't book it out of the country already

Rallydrv
02-17-2022, 05:24 PM
Don't most countries need u to be vaccinated? Where she's gonna go?

westopher
02-17-2022, 05:47 PM
No rules in international waters.
https://youtu.be/yIy5aZBHs-A

whitev70r
02-17-2022, 08:20 PM
Impressed that arrest of both leaders (Tamara Lichs and Chris Barber) were quite calm and simple ... not a whole lot of fanfare.

SkinnyPupp
02-17-2022, 09:05 PM
Impressed that arrest of both leaders (Tamara Lichs and Chris Barber) were quite calm and simple ... not a whole lot of fanfare.
They know they're in over their heads; I think they just want it to end. I bet a lot of their people just want to go home

Problem is that leaves the most extremists left over...

Manic!
02-18-2022, 02:37 AM
Fucking loser.

https://www.twitter.com/davidakin/status/1494401701809467401

TOS'd
02-18-2022, 07:30 AM
Jordan Klepper On The Canadian Freedom Convoy | The Daily Show With Trevor Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXlYvSkQf8

TOS'd
02-18-2022, 07:39 AM
CBC Live Feed: https://gem.cbc.ca/live/1964552259506

Police meeting line of occupants.
Also some trucks/vehicles have been towed.

bcrdukes
02-18-2022, 07:44 AM
They know they're in over their heads; I think they just want it to end. I bet a lot of their people just want to go home

Problem is that leaves the most extremists left over...

Perhaps naïve of me to think of this but I expected her followers to "do whatever it takes" to save her but instead, they just let the police take her away and send a Tweet. Every man for himself, I suppose.

SkunkWorks
02-18-2022, 07:53 AM
Every man for himself, I suppose.

Isn't that the basic mantra of their protest?

"fuck you I don't care about anyone but myself"

Presto
02-18-2022, 08:03 AM
https://youtu.be/1egC4hdRrn0

https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/sv0pme/another_beautiful_person_from_ottawa_ottawa

Teriyaki
02-18-2022, 08:22 AM
"oNLy I hAf tHe FreEdom to maKe NOiSe!!" - The Oppressed Protestors

TOS'd
02-18-2022, 08:47 AM
CBC reporting Pat King arrested.

EDIT: Link
https://twitter.com/nearbyplanet/status/1494729443012751363


Protesters playing with snow and building snow walls, incoming snowball fight?:
https://twitter.com/danevansfc/status/1494726149347414017

BlackV62K2
02-18-2022, 09:47 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/sv3skl/the_good_samaritan_a_part_of_our_heritage/

:lawl:

westopher
02-18-2022, 09:51 AM
I can’t say it enough. I love this guy. I’d PayPal him right now for a pint.

GLOW
02-18-2022, 09:55 AM
wish he had track pants and a cig in hand though, that would be the *chef's kiss*

westopher
02-18-2022, 09:59 AM
Hate to say atodaso pat king, but afuckintodaso.

Manic!
02-18-2022, 10:04 AM
They are cracking down right now. Multicam live stream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYNGrp_R38

pastarocket
02-18-2022, 10:21 AM
Check out this story from NEWS 1130: https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/18/ottawa-convoy-organizers-charges/

Police armed with sniper rifles look on from roofs above.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2022/02/18/MicrosoftTeams-image-7.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220218/d4562887ba570ec396590b8295f372ef.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

mikemhg
02-18-2022, 11:11 AM
I love these posts, but jeez, why does our messaging always suck?

Calling these people "terrorists" is fucking stupid. Personally, I think it takes weight off the word, and makes us look a little extreme.

It's like calling January 6th an "insurrection" or "attempted coup", ridiculous hyperbole.

These people aren't actual terrorists -- they're just radicalized/disenfranchised malcontents.

To refer to them as any differently makes us look silly, IMHO.

Hondaracer
02-18-2022, 11:32 AM
The words terrorist and nazi are just thrown around as frivolously as could be these days. At the end of the day it definitely diminishes the actual meaning and takes away from the impact when you just call some fat white guy waving a Canadian flag a nazi

westopher
02-18-2022, 11:36 AM
I think it’s a heavy word, but it does fit the definition.

a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

There hasn’t been real violence of note, but there were legitimate threats made in many of these instances. I think peoples idea of the word is more extreme because of how it’s presented since 9/11 everyone associates it with suicide bombers and planes flying into buildings.

Hondaracer
02-18-2022, 11:46 AM
It’s pretty borderline.. when I think of Domestic terrorism Timothy Mcveigh and people of his like are what come to mind. By definition sure but I think to mikes point they are moreso misguided morons than terrorists. There may be factions within the groups like the ones at the couts crossing that have motives to hurt people, them sure. But I think most people in this group are just ignorant assholes who think the world did them bad

I think those people who just attacked that coastal gas link camp fall much closer under the terrorist title than most of the people in Ottawa

westopher
02-18-2022, 11:49 AM
For sure. I wouldn’t call the average person involved in this a terrorist, but I would call the organizers, especially Pat King that.
I’d call them lots of other things though.

BlackV62K2
02-18-2022, 12:24 PM
At the end of the day, these people are just fucking idiots lol

SkinnyPupp
02-18-2022, 09:25 PM
I love these posts, but jeez, why does our messaging always suck?

Calling these people "terrorists" is fucking stupid. Personally, I think it takes weight off the word, and makes us look a little extreme.

It's like calling January 6th an "insurrection" or "attempted coup", ridiculous hyperbole.

These people aren't actual terrorists -- they're just radicalized/disenfranchised malcontents.

To refer to them as any differently makes us look silly, IMHO.
I mostly agree except Jan 6 was literally a "violent uprising against an authority or government" or "insurrection".

I agree they're not terrorists though, since they are mostly acting against the government and not the people.

It's important to use these words correctly, and when it's appropriate to use them, people need to open their eyes and realize hey, it got to the point where there was literally an insurrection in Washington DC.

And now a movement similar to that is happening in Canada, done and funded by the same people.

And yes, they're mostly just idiots. But idiots can still be dangerous

danned
02-18-2022, 09:34 PM
https://www.vmcdn.ca/f/files/via/images/protests-and-demonstrations/vancouver-new-freedom-convoy.jpg;w=960
https://www.vmcdn.ca/f/files/via/images/protests-and-demonstrations/vancouver-freedom-convoy.jpg.png;w=960

Rallydrv
02-18-2022, 10:40 PM
I donno. Somehow I wish lived in middle of all this and had a water cannon. They'd all be free on to death rite now.

Manic!
02-18-2022, 11:35 PM
https://www.twitter.com/Lilou3692/status/1494806206640279554

whitev70r
02-19-2022, 07:26 AM
Must say, so far, what is reported from CBC, the Ottawa police, OPP, RCMP are going a great job in clearing the blockade with minimal violence. Kudos. Very strategic, balanced (offering them 2 days and multiple opportunities to leave peacefully), and effective.

320icar
02-19-2022, 07:32 AM
LOL

JDMDreams
02-19-2022, 08:44 AM
Saw some counter protestors this morning gave them the thumbs up, bring your pots and spoons kids :lawl:

GLOW
02-19-2022, 08:55 AM
never understood standing in front of large moving objects, or jumping in front of them, and somehow it absolves someone of responsibility of self preservation.

even pea brained little dinosaurs in Jurassic Park knew the law of the jungle and cleared way when T-Rex was stomping through

68style
02-19-2022, 09:27 AM
Tampling horses! They’re trampling!

Tramampling!

Hahahaha

Rallydrv
02-19-2022, 11:08 AM
Lol best comment on Twitter

"she had 3 weeks to get out of the way"

320icar
02-19-2022, 11:12 AM
Those clowns just passed my house I’m pretty sure in Ladner. People on the pedestrian overpass waving flags followed by 5 minutes of solid honking

westopher
02-19-2022, 11:21 AM
Lol best comment on Twitter

"she had 3 weeks to get out of the way"
Footage of the incident.

https://youtu.be/y_PrZ-J7D3k

68style
02-19-2022, 11:29 AM
I’m in Campbell River and they just came through honking like crazy, super old lady next to me picked up her cane and waved it at a truck and yelled “shut the fuck up” hahaha

Tapioca
02-19-2022, 12:21 PM
It's very discouraging to see that so many people live in an alternate universe. It's one thing to oppose the government with rational arguments, but it's completely different when there is no longer a common understanding of the facts. These people who remain are in complete disbelief and what we are seeing says a lot about the impact of social media, influencer culture, and disruption.

JDMDreams
02-19-2022, 12:25 PM
Hate to say this but ppl in health care should just reject these people and say no. I would go on leave or strike.

underscore
02-19-2022, 12:34 PM
Normally this kind of crap has a better turnout in this right wing shithole, but I passed a "convoy" today that was one tractor followed by one truck :lol

68style
02-19-2022, 12:34 PM
There’s a bunch of them staying at my hotel, 2 guys were sizing me up in the lobby last night with no masks on asking me why I’m wearing mine just get that feeling they want to fight, just ignored them.

Then today I see one of those guys again, he walks by an Asian dad with his kid and he made a huge point as he passed them, again with no mask on, of really loudly and slowly saying “HI HOW ARE YOU” totally insinuating the Asian guy doesn’t speak English… I was like “the fuck is your problem?” and he’s like “What? I’m just being friendly… not like you with your mask on” and I was like “The fuck you are, racist piece of shit… and even if there was no virus I’d wear one around you to avoid sharing any air you're wasting” and he starts with the “Oh yah you wanna talk about it outside bitch?” thing and the front desk said she’s going to call the RCMP and he backed down, told me “You better watch yourself”

Yah… really representing Canadian values bud!

whitev70r
02-19-2022, 12:59 PM
Regretfully, all the reasonable ones left the blockage in Ottawa on their own yesterday ... now you get the cray cray rift raft left.

westopher
02-19-2022, 01:15 PM
The most despicable thing going on is there are people that have stayed there with their kids, willfully putting them in positions of danger for their own uninformed bullshit beliefs. I bet there are people there just hoping a child gets hurt so they can use it to further their “TURD IS DICTATOR” narrative.
Fucking scum fucks.

Bouncing Bettys
02-19-2022, 01:15 PM
Live from the Langley protest:
https://youtu.be/fw6YQlaH2Oc

Or is 176th considered Surrey?

StylinRed
02-19-2022, 01:29 PM
never understood standing in front of large moving objects, or jumping in front of them, and somehow it absolves someone of responsibility of self preservation.

even pea brained little dinosaurs in Jurassic Park knew the law of the jungle and cleared way when T-Rex was stomping through

They did get out of the way and there was a path for them to canter thru, if u notice the horse that did the trampling wasn't following the line of horses

The police did even yell out to notify anyone they were coming thru

Come on guys just cuz u disagree with them shouldn't mean you stand up for things like that

white rocket
02-19-2022, 01:48 PM
Those clowns just passed my house I’m pretty sure in Ladner. People on the pedestrian overpass waving flags followed by 5 minutes of solid honking

Hwy overpass, T-Mills mall, a few other locations around town. T-Commons was packed. Tryna get some A&W was madness.




I'm a bit removed these days, but aren't some provinces ditching the whole vax pass thing and mask wearing soon anyway? If so, why all the hubbub then? Didn't they win?

Ricky yelling from the balcony is the greatest thing in 2022. I can't stop laughing. Dude had enough and fucking let go. Good for him. He tore a new one into like 10 people directly and simultaneously created a whole vibe. I think I even heard a "fuck you and your fucking cunt wife. fuck off" Haha!! I'm dying.

ImportPsycho
02-19-2022, 01:58 PM
Live from the Langley protest:
https://youtu.be/fw6YQlaH2Oc

Or is 176th considered Surrey?


Wow spotted non-white protester in the video.
So they do exist....