[SkinnyPupp]

This happened in the middle of the afternoon today and if the last 2 years of news wasn't already batshit insane, this would be the biggest news story for years... As it is, it's probably Japan's biggest political news since the war ended.

Shinzo Abe was assassinated while campaigning in Nara by a 40 year old man with what appears to be a homemade shotgun of some sort

https://i.imgur.com/zAqOHtg.png

He served a short time in Japan's version of the Navy. Details coming out are slim, but it appears he claims he thought he was killing someone else. A religious leader of some sort.

2020 hits just keep coming... Who knows what his actual motives were. They don't seem to be political, but the consequences almost certainly will be.

Abe was a hard right nationalist who was a denier of Japan's atrocities during WW2. His grandfather, also a prime minister, was one of Japan's biggest war criminals who was in charge of Manchuria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Manchuria). One of his main campaigns was to reverse Japan's pacifist constitution and strengthen their military, but he was never really able to. But with Russia acting the way they are, and now this, people may start to lean that way.

[Badhobz]

Plz don’t be a Chinese/Korean nationalist… last thing we friggin need

[JDMDreams]

O no so he died, copying Americans now......

[Bouncing Bettys]

Sad news.

It was a bit surprising to hear the method used (shot with gun) in initial reports, given Japan's strict ban on guns. The ban was well known to me due to being invested in airsoft, which was created in Japan to cope with gun bans. Gun bans don't stop criminals from getting, or in this case, building guns.

Hope this doesn't escalate tensions between Japan and its neighbours, if this was political. Last thing the world needs right now.

Not recalling Abe's name immediately, did anyone else think the trending of #Abe with this story was some dark reference to the assassination of Abe Lincoln?

[pastarocket]

Apparently, the guy brought a home made gun to shoot Abe while he was making a speech.

-very rare to see this happen in a country with very strict gun control laws.

Abe was 67 years old. RIP.

The CBC news video shows the home made gun as being made of wood, tape, and pipes.

https://youtu.be/LbH2CHgkdt0


https://youtu.be/QuDTlMM-raE


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[MarkyMark]

As suspected someone uses a rare occurrence to prove strict gun control doesn't work.

In other news seatbelts and airbags don't save 100% of lives in a car accident so why bother.

[68style]

^ Right? Crazy... not even worth responding to.

RIP Abe, some of his stances were a bit disagreeable, but seems like he was genuinely adored by a lot of world leaders... even India is holding a day of mourning for him.

[pastarocket]

As suspected someone uses a rare occurrence to prove strict gun control doesn't work.

In other news seatbelts and airbags don't save 100% of lives in a car accident so why bother.


That is not the point of my post. The fact of the matter is that the shooter created a homemade gun using pipes, wood, and tape.

What is my point is that Japan is a safe country. Violent crime is very Low there. Check out the crime stats for land of the Rising Sun if you want.

This is not about “gun control laws”.

This is about some dude making his own gun to kill a politician for whatever reason in a country with a low rate of gun related crime.

This incident can happen ANYWHERE regardless of the laws of the land.

What is going to stop someone from making their own gun?


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[68style]

^ He wasn't talking about you pastarocket

[Bouncing Bettys]

As suspected someone uses a rare occurrence to prove strict gun control doesn't work.

In other news seatbelts and airbags don't save 100% of lives in a car accident so why bother.
There is a difference between control and bans. I'm all for controlling access to guns and keeping them out of the hands of the mentally unsound, criminals, etc.. Not allowing law abiding citizens to posses guns does nothing to stop criminals from acquiring or making them.

Judging by the seemingly slow reaction by security, the false sense of security of a gun ban and the culture of minimal violence may explain why guards were slow to react to the second shot (reportedly 4 seconds after the first).

[68style]

Just shut up man, fuck

[pastarocket]

:lawl: :lawl: :lawl:

[Traum]

Abe was a hard right nationalist who was a denier of Japan's atrocities during WW2. His grandfather, also a prime minister, was one of Japan's biggest war criminals who was in charge of Manchuria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Manchuria). One of his main campaigns was to reverse Japan's pacifist constitution and strengthen their military, but he was never really able to. But with Russia acting the way they are, and now this, people may start to lean that way.
I'd say the above description is only a rather small part of Abe's legacy. He is much better known as being Japan's longest serving Prime Minister, and there are good reasons for it. Abenomics was instrumental in reviving Japan's stagnant economic

On the international stage, Abe has also been very pro-US, pro-Taiwan, and takes a firm stance against China's southeast Pacific aggressions.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Just shut up man, fuck
Typical response. Use the ignore function or stay out of the thread if you can't bear to read opposing views.

[CivicBlues]

There is a difference between control and bans. I'm all for controlling access to guns and keeping them out of the hands of the mentally unsound, criminals, etc.. Not allowing law abiding citizens to posses guns does nothing to stop criminals from acquiring or making them.

Judging by the seemingly slow reaction by security, the false sense of security of a gun ban and the culture of minimal violence may explain why guards were slow to react to the second shot (reportedly 4 seconds after the first).

What a shame, I'm so glad we live in a hyper-violent society afraid of random attacks and shootings all the time so that we can be ever vigilant. Unlike those soft Japanese living in peace who will have no idea what to do in a mass shooter event. You'd never hear of such events happening in a armed hyper-vigilant society like the United States.








/s

[68style]

It's not even the right thread for it moron.

And your views are not even opposing.. they're just outright stupidity. ONE guy makes a gun in hundreds of years of a society's existence and you use it as evidence of a movement/platform not working? Mental.

That bullshit "legal gun owner" argument lol.. how many legal gun owners including the Chicago shooter shot someone on July 4th? You're always a legal gun owner until you decide to do something illegal with it. Blah blah blah ad nauseum.

Yah what a tragedy that Japan doesn't expect there to be shootings every day. WHAT A TRAGEDY.

[underscore]

the culture of minimal violence may explain why guards were slow to react to the second shot (reportedly 4 seconds after the first).

I mean maybe, but what exactly is the proposed alternative here?

[Badhobz]

Im so glad i dont have any kids, what a fucked up world

[Bouncing Bettys]

It isn't the right thread? Please do enlighten me, what is the purpose of this thread?

The OP covers so many topics like motive, the gun itself (which when you extrapolate hints at gun access), geo-politics, the views of the victim
, etc. That's pretty broad discussion if you ask me. It should also be note my initial post wasn't to push gun rights, but to highlight the rarity and the lengths criminals will go to get around bans. He literally built a gun with tape. You focused one point while ignoring the rest, because you can't tolerate the slightest difference in opinion in the little eco chamber you are trying to build for you and your comrades.

[MarkyMark]

I mean maybe, but what exactly is the proposed alternative here?

More guns and more shootings! If you go out expecting that you're most likely going to get shot or witness a shooting you're way more likely to be prepared for it. Imagine going to the PNE but this time you're strapped and every person that walks by is a potential target. Is he reaching for a mini donut or a gun? Nothing says freedom like security up the ass everywhere you go just in case shit pops off.

Imagine living in a place where a mass shooting is so rare you aren't quite sure what to do when it happens. Imagine some idiot thinking that's a bad thing?

[68style]

Literally didn't ignore anything.

ONE crazy person (already been surmised, not a criminal, but delusional) did something in HUNDREDS OF YEARS of a society existing and it's your evidence? Japan averages under 10 gun deaths a year. America averages 40,000 a year. Gun ban works very very very very VERY very VERY very well :)

You want to talk about echo chambers? There's one inside your head just your own voice bouncing around in that empty thing.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'd say the above description is only a rather small part of Abe's legacy. He is much better known as being Japan's longest serving Prime Minister, and there are good reasons for it. Abenomics was instrumental in reviving Japan's stagnant economic

On the international stage, Abe has also been very pro-US, pro-Taiwan, and takes a firm stance against China's southeast Pacific aggressions.
Yeah it was just a quick blurb off the top of my head posting this, hoping people like you could add to the discussion with good info... This isn't just some guy, he's incredibly important and this assassination will likely have huge consequences.

Also unlike in the US, and increasingly in Canada, being conservative doesn't mean you have to be a nutjob or an idiot like we see in this thread. Sometimes you can just agree on some things, disagree on some others. For many people, a lot of what this guy says (and more importantly, denies happened) is totally unacceptable though, and worth mentioning.

[Bouncing Bettys]

TIL: Building a gun against the gun laws of one's country, doesn't make you a criminal, just delusional.

[68style]

Wow the word twisting. Is that all you have?

Keep telling us how the gun ban didn't work man. It's so effective!

[PeanutButter]

There is a difference between control and bans. I'm all for controlling access to guns and keeping them out of the hands of the mentally unsound, criminals, etc.. Not allowing law abiding citizens to posses guns does nothing to stop criminals from acquiring or making them.

Judging by the seemingly slow reaction by security, the false sense of security of a gun ban and the culture of minimal violence may explain why guards were slow to react to the second shot (reportedly 4 seconds after the first).

Speaking of slow reaction time by security...

https://youtu.be/_RFH7C3vkK4

[Traum]

On the note about gun building, I am actually kinda surprised that it was built out of wood / tape / pipes instead of being 3D printed.

[GGnoRE]

I'd say the above description is only a rather small part of Abe's legacy.

What? No way. Would you feel the same way about Angela Merkel if she tried to whitewash Germany's involvement in the Holocaust despite all the survivors, third-party eye-witness testimonies, and physical evidence of mass war atrocities? Abe and his government have scraped much from school textbooks and have produced mass amnesia about Japan's horrific past in an attempt to whitewash Imperial Japan and Imperial Japan's war crimes. I'd say that deserves to be a pretty big part of Abe's legacy.

Abenomics was instrumental in reviving Japan's stagnant economic

Abenomics was a failure as an economic policy and will become a textbook case study for future generations.


"During the years of the Abe administration, real GDP growth averaged only 0.9% (2020 is excluded because of the COVID-19 pandemic). Corresponding figures were 1.0% for the 2001–6 Koizumi administration, 1.5% for the 2009–12 period when the Democratic Party of Japan was in power, and 0.9%, when Prime Ministers Hashimoto Ryūtarō (1996–98) and Obuchi Keizō (1998–2000) were engaged in massive public works spending. And not only does the Abe administration rank the lowest in GDP growth (annualized rate based on quarterly real GDP), personal consumption also recorded negative growth during the Abe years." https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g01236/#:~:text=Viewed%20from%20the%20discipline%20of,not %20change%20the%20real%20economy.


Not a lot of economic results to show for while borrowing a crushing amount of debt. Abe's government dug themselves into a massive hole and Japan will have to pay the price for it eventually. Under Abenomics, Japan launched an unprecedented asset-buying scheme that have lead to Japanese government now owning half of their own government bond market and 80% of their domestic equity ETFs. Despite all that, demand-driven inflation is still too weak, and is well below rates in other major economies. So while global peers are raising interest rates to tame inflation, Japan's central bank can't wean the country off its milk bottle. Just last week, Apple announced ~20% price increase for iPhone 13 in Japan due to their currency tanking ~20% against the dollar year-to-date. https://www.imore.com/iphone-13-price-suddenly-raised-japan-nearly-20

[320icar]

Gun bans don't stop criminals from getting, or in this case, building guns.


The problem is, people like Bouncing Betty’s have the mentality that “I’m right, everyone else is wrong”. So when we call him a fucking brain dead idiot, to him that’s just affirmation of how right he is, and how foolish we are.

In 2018, Japan, a country of 125 million people, only reported nine deaths from firearms -- compared with 39,740 in the United States.

[Manic!]

It isn't the right thread? Please do enlighten me, what is the purpose of this thread?



The body isn't even cold yet and you are talking about gun control. Have you no shame?

2 shots in under 5 seconds. In the Us that would have been an easy 10 plus shots.

[Manic!]

On the note about gun building, I am actually kinda surprised that it was built out of wood / tape / pipes instead of being 3D printed.

You need a higher end 3D printer and know what you are doing to be able to 3D print a gun.

[Traum]

There is no denying that Abe was a right wing nationalist, and that he was far more right wing than most of his predecessors / successors. I do not agree at all with his historical views on the Imperial Japanese era, and of course the Textbook Reforms will leave a black mark in his legacy. The lens of history will determine whether Abe is judged more for his views and policies on this, or whether his other policies shaped the bigger part of his reputation.

What? No way. Would you feel the same way about Angela Merkel if she tried to whitewash Germany's involvement in the Holocaust despite all the survivors, third-party eye-witness testimonies, and physical evidence of mass war atrocities? Abe and his government have scraped much from school textbooks and have produced mass amnesia about Japan's horrific past in an attempt to whitewash Imperial Japan and Imperial Japan's war crimes. I'd say that deserves to be a pretty big part of Abe's legacy.


I can't claim to be an expert on the Japanese economy, and most accounts claim Abeconomic was only a mixed success. But IMO, many of critics and commentators are consciously or unconsciously neglecting to mention the white elephant in the room, while only looking at the straight numbers like you have mentioned below. Japan's white elephant is its continually dwindling and aging population. When you look at Japan's economic track record thru Abe's prime ministership under that light, the fact that it was able to achieve what it achieved was already nothing short of incredible. During Abe's tenure, unemployment dropped to record low levels, and Japan saw the longest consecutive economic growth streak in nearly 30 years. In the world that we are living in right now, there is no viable societal - economic model that can maintain continual economy growth despite having a declining and aging population.


Abenomics was a failure as an economic policy and will become a textbook case study for future generations.


"During the years of the Abe administration, real GDP growth averaged only 0.9% (2020 is excluded because of the COVID-19 pandemic). Corresponding figures were 1.0% for the 2001–6 Koizumi administration, 1.5% for the 2009–12 period when the Democratic Party of Japan was in power, and 0.9%, when Prime Ministers Hashimoto Ryūtarō (1996–98) and Obuchi Keizō (1998–2000) were engaged in massive public works spending. And not only does the Abe administration rank the lowest in GDP growth (annualized rate based on quarterly real GDP), personal consumption also recorded negative growth during the Abe years." https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g01236/#:~:text=Viewed%20from%20the%20discipline%20of,not %20change%20the%20real%20economy.


Not a lot of economic results to show for while borrowing a crushing amount of debt. Abe's government dug themselves into a massive hole and Japan will have to pay the price for it eventually. Under Abenomics, Japan launched an unprecedented asset-buying scheme that have lead to Japanese government now owning half of their own government bond market and 80% of their domestic equity ETFs. Despite all that, demand-driven inflation is still too weak, and is well below rates in other major economies. So while global peers are raising interest rates to tame inflation, Japan's central bank can't wean the country off its milk bottle. Just last week, Apple announced ~20% price increase for iPhone 13 in Japan due to their currency tanking ~20% against the dollar year-to-date. https://www.imore.com/iphone-13-price-suddenly-raised-japan-nearly-20


As an unrelated side note, China is marching down that same path of aging and dwindling population as well, although the pace at which it is moving through that road is far faster than Japan. IMO, the Chinese economy is also a far bigger house of cards than Japan's because of how much it has been hollowed out by corruption and made-up stats. It'll be interesting to watch how China's economic future unfolds over the next 20 - 30 years.

[StylinRed]

It was a homemade gun out of wood metal and duct tape, I thought it was going to be a 3D printed gun at first wow and it was good enough for both his shots to hit Abe in the neck wtf

They aren't naming what group the man believes Abe to be a part of, but say they are investigating if other members of that group are at risk of being targeted... What group is this?

[Traum]

It was a homemade gun out of wood metal and duct tape, I thought it was going to be a 3D printed gun at first wow and it was good enough for both his shots to hit Abe in the neck wtf

I can't find which video it was anymore, but one of the ones I watched showed how close the attacker was to Abe at the time when he fired off his shot. Of course the quality of the video wasn't very good, so it is difficult to make any semi-accurate judgements on distance, but based on what the video showed, I wouldn't surprised if the attacker was only 5 - 6m away from Abe when he let off his shots.

[Hakkaboy]

There is a difference between control and bans. I'm all for controlling access to guns and keeping them out of the hands of the mentally unsound, criminals, etc.. Not allowing law abiding citizens to posses guns does nothing to stop criminals from acquiring or making them.

Judging by the seemingly slow reaction by security, the false sense of security of a gun ban and the culture of minimal violence may explain why guards were slow to react to the second shot (reportedly 4 seconds after the first).

what the hell is a law abiding citizen? Someone who doesn't drive over the speed limit? Because if you do speed, you're breaking the law and therefore not abiding it, are you?

I didn't know you wanted to ban all gun sales. Colour me surprised.

[Traum]

Came across this commentary / analysis with some really good footage that I haven't seen before:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C-GK2C&v=722598328850687

You can see the video for yourself, but what is mind-boggling is, the gunman actually missed his first shot, but was able to continue moving forward another few steps so that by the time he was firing his 2nd shot, he was as close as ~3m away from Abe. Obviously, it is pretty darn hard to miss an adult human sized target that is only 3m away.

[twitchyzero]

im aware he comes from the lineage of a war criminal, does he actually deny or just hush-hush?

i believe he was the first head of state from japan to visit pearl harbor, this was with obama

[SkinnyPupp]

When I read about "Abenomics" the thing I see most is that it wasn't necessarily a success, but also things could have been much, much worse without it. So in a way, it was used to avoid utter catastrophe.

[Manic!]

This whole law abiding citizen narrative pushed by gun nuts is B.S. There is no way for the government to know if a person is law abiding. The government only knows if a person has been convicted of a crime.

Lets look at Hondaracer. He is a gun owner and a person who is not a law abiding citizen because he has admitted to smoking weed before it was legal. Technically he should not be allowed to own a gun but he has never been caught.

[SkinnyPupp]

This whole law abiding citizen narrative pushed by gun nuts is B.S. There is no way for the government to know if a person is law abiding. The government only knows if a person has been convicted of a crime.

Lets look at Hondaracer. He is a gun owner and a person who is not a law abiding citizen because he has admitted to smoking weed before it was legal. Technically he should not be allowed to own a gun but he has never been caught.
Just ignore them, their brains are poisoned.

[T4RAWR]

I'm surprised cic hasn't stepped in yet. :suspicious:

I'm looking forward to his commentary :troll:

[StylinRed]

I don't think there would be a spin for him, Japan is it's own world and their own terror groups and conspiracy groups etc, we'd need a Japanese version of cic :lol

[Badhobz]

Where did Charles go !?!?!!

[CharlesInCharge]

Due to censorship and thread bans its not worth the energy for me to post much on the forum... but Japan lost its independence with the last Samurais.
I believe the Anglo Zionist empire controlled Japan since, and after backed opposing sides of the world wars to create order out of chaos. The reasoning for dropping nukes on Japan was to terrorize the rest of the world of how ruthless it is but also for testing it on a populated city.

The guy who killed Abe is reported to have reasoned the assassination because of a group the former prime minister was in.

At the end of the day Abe was a powerless puppet, he falsely presented Japan as independent to his people. He may have done good things and planning for more against the wishes of his puppet masters (tin foil hat on* maybe thats why he was killed like Kennedy as an example for future politicians) but we'll never know.

One could see the same kind of insignia that these past time agents wore representing the empire.
https://i.imgur.com/sUI3toQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rR2cCe9.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't think there would be a spin for him, Japan is it's own world and their own terror groups and conspiracy groups etc, we'd need a Japanese version of cic :lol
lol how could you underestimate how demented he is after all these years?

[MG1]

One word. Yakuza.

[hud 91gt]

It was a homemade gun out of wood metal and duct tape, I thought it was going to be a 3D printed gun at first wow and it was good enough for both his shots to hit Abe in the neck wtf

They aren't naming what group the man believes Abe to be a part of, but say they are investigating if other members of that group are at risk of being targeted... What group is this?

The thing could have been made of mashed potatoes. Everything the Japanese do, is god damn perfect, even if it took him 25 years to build.

[GLOW]

This whole law abiding citizen narrative pushed by gun nuts is B.S. There is no way for the government to know if a person is law abiding. The government only knows if a person has been convicted of a crime.


it ain't breaking the law if you never been caught amirite :troll: Kappa

[Infiniti]

There is no denying that Abe was a right wing nationalist, and that he was far more right wing than most of his predecessors / successors. I do not agree at all with his historical views on the Imperial Japanese era, and of course the Textbook Reforms will leave a black mark in his legacy. The lens of history will determine whether Abe is judged more for his views and policies on this, or whether his other policies shaped the bigger part of his reputation.



I can't claim to be an expert on the Japanese economy, and most accounts claim Abeconomic was only a mixed success. But IMO, many of critics and commentators are consciously or unconsciously neglecting to mention the white elephant in the room, while only looking at the straight numbers like you have mentioned below. Japan's white elephant is its continually dwindling and aging population. When you look at Japan's economic track record thru Abe's prime ministership under that light, the fact that it was able to achieve what it achieved was already nothing short of incredible. During Abe's tenure, unemployment dropped to record low levels, and Japan saw the longest consecutive economic growth streak in nearly 30 years. In the world that we are living in right now, there is no viable societal - economic model that can maintain continual economy growth despite having a declining and aging population.



As an unrelated side note, China is marching down that same path of aging and dwindling population as well, although the pace at which it is moving through that road is far faster than Japan. IMO, the Chinese economy is also a far bigger house of cards than Japan's because of how much it has been hollowed out by corruption and made-up stats. It'll be interesting to watch how China's economic future unfolds over the next 20 - 30 years.

Asia and its xenophobia

[Infiniti]

(tin foil hat on*

Oh the irony!

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/09/shinzo-abe-assassination-election-blinken/

Turns out that this guy's mother was a member of one of the many cults (or "modern religions" as they're called there). They completely ripped her off and bankrupted her.

Abe (and many other politicians in his party) had ties to this cult (actually Trump did too, but just a paid speaking arrangement) so that's who he went after.

I'm not sure how well known it is, but Japan has IMO a pretty big problem with these cults. Basically take Scientology and multiply it by dozens, because that's how many there are. They all recruit heavily, and will rip off anyone in any way they see fit. And a lot of them have ties to the LDP, Abe's party. That's probably why it's not really being reported in mainstream Japanese news.

[punkwax]

I know someone who worked for Panasonic in it’s heyday and they said the culture there was very much cult like so I believe it.

[Hondaracer]

This whole law abiding citizen narrative pushed by gun nuts is B.S. There is no way for the government to know if a person is law abiding. The government only knows if a person has been convicted of a crime.

Lets look at Hondaracer. He is a gun owner and a person who is not a law abiding citizen because he has admitted to smoking weed before it was legal. Technically he should not be allowed to own a gun but he has never been caught.

Jesus Christ you’re such a fucking clown.

[Manic!]

Jesus Christ you’re such a fucking clown.

Says the guy who buys drugs illegally from drug dealers and owns guns. Ever take money from friends for drugs?

[68style]

Slow that roll man... if buying drugs of any sort was the bar for legality on this forum you and like 2 other people might be the only ones posting.

I don't think it's helping your argument any.

[Manic!]

Slow that roll man... if buying drugs of any sort was the bar for legality on this forum you and like 2 other people might be the only ones posting.

I don't think it's helping your argument any.

I don't care if he buys drugs but under Canadian law he is a criminal. Just because someone has a pal does not make them a law abiding angle.

[SkinnyPupp]

Jesus Christ you’re such a fucking clown.

Slow that roll man... if buying drugs of any sort was the bar for legality on this forum you and like 2 other people might be the only ones posting.

I don't think it's helping your argument any.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, I think you guys are missing manic's point... I think I get where he's going, but maybe he could clarify it?

At the very least I don't think he's judging honda for buying drugs illegally... It seems to be more a comment on the tired defense of relaxed gun laws that some people have.

[CivicBlues]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/09/shinzo-abe-assassination-election-blinken/

Turns out that this guy's mother was a member of one of the many cults (or "modern religions" as they're called there). They completely ripped her off and bankrupted her.

Abe (and many other politicians in his party) had ties to this cult (actually Trump did too, but just a paid speaking arrangement) so that's who he went after.

I'm not sure how well known it is, but Japan has IMO a pretty big problem with these cults. Basically take Scientology and multiply it by dozens, because that's how many there are. They all recruit heavily, and will rip off anyone in any way they see fit. And a lot of them have ties to the LDP, Abe's party. That's probably why it's not really being reported in mainstream Japanese news.

I read it was the Unification Church aka. The Moonies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/mother-of-shinzo-abe-killing-suspect-member-of-moonies-church

Relevant Seinfeld:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkMIvzbWPBs

[Great68]

I think when anyone uses the term "law abiding citizen" and gun ownership it's obviously implied that it's in the context of violent crimes...

I think the problem with that argument is that sure someone can be a perfectly law abiding in that sense, until one day they're not.

The highland park shooter guy was a law abiding citizen, up until he opened fire on people.

[CharlesInCharge]

It was commented to PressTV news a few days ago that its the toitsu kyokai sec of the church.
https://i.imgur.com/0dY5QPz.jpg

this is the first link when Googled
https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2550

The PDF link comments on controversial money raising activities tarnishing the churches image.
It has blend of various influences like Taoist philosophy and Buddhism. Those two, including Judism, Hinduism and other so called religions can be traced back to similarities in Greek gods and its mythologies.

edit
Cult to pay woman huge compensation over forced donations for ancestors
https://culteducation.com/group/1277-unification-church/23888-cult-to-pay-woman-huge-compensation-over-forced-donations-for-ancestors.html

A cult has agreed to pay about 230 million yen in compensation to an elderly woman for forcing her to donate a massive amount of money to redeem her ancestors' sins.

The Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of Christianity, known as "Toitsu Kyokai" in Japan, has agreed to pay the settlement money to a 70-year-old woman from Chiba Prefecture, who had demanded the cult compensate her for about 220 million yen that she donated to the religious group.
.....
The victim told the press, "I was told that my ancestors were suffering in hell. The amount of money they demanded got higher and higher, and I felt bound by hand and foot."

According to Kito, the woman paid the donations to the cult during a five-year period until 2005. When the woman demanded the cult pay back the donations and pay her compensation, the cult initially didn't comply.

However, after the victim told the cult that she would file a suit against it

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup they will tell people that their ancestors are suffering, and can only be helped if you give them all your money.. This guy's mom sold her house and gave literally all her money, about 50 million yen.

As you can see from CiC's post that correlates to the real world for once, they have been successfully sued for their coersion.

I guess the guy actually had some lucidity behind his motives, hoping to find some way to crush these cults. Unfortunately they raise WAY too much money for the LDP so that's never going to happen.