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: 2003 Toyota Corolla XR - engine dead at 190,000km


Acura604
08-09-2022, 04:29 PM
Sister's car - she got a good 15 years out of it but am surprised to see a toyota die so quickly. typical maintenance was done at dealerships - besides, she needs to buy a new car anyways.

anyways, what's a scrap value worth for this? and/or best way to scrap/get rid of it.

Diagnosis:
https://i.imgur.com/lj4clND.jpg


Repair cost:
https://i.imgur.com/gbBNI7M.jpg

JDMDreams
08-09-2022, 04:53 PM
190k km is pretty high km......... I would be more surprised if it was 19000.

Alpine
08-09-2022, 05:00 PM
Ah Shit, probably did too much maintenance :(
RIP Corolla.

bcrdukes
08-09-2022, 05:02 PM
Not bad for a 1ZZ. Probably ran it with low oil and lead to its death but not uncommon on this motor. Good car for a stock and noob meet. Throw in a BEAMS engine and call it a day.

Special K
08-09-2022, 05:12 PM
Ran 299,999 km for 6 months on a Corolla XRS.

Half of the Corollas for sale have odometer stopped working

Badhobz
08-09-2022, 05:42 PM
200k is what i got out of my parents 2001 Sentra XE. I expected better from you toyota DansGame

donk.
08-09-2022, 05:48 PM
Could get a grand on CL for it probably, no rush to get rid of it? Post for 2k and take the first offer

There's junk car removal, they will pick it up for free

Could call junk yards, and see how much they will pay you for it, likely 300$, minus the 200$ towing cost you will need to pay

RiceIntegraRS
08-09-2022, 05:53 PM
190k is pretty low, especially for a Corolla. My parents 05 Corolla hit 250k and it was still running strong before it got written off. Im thinking theres soo many things wrong with it to the point where they think its faster, cheaper and easier just to replace the engine than try and figure out whats wrong with it, but i could be wrong

bcrdukes
08-09-2022, 06:01 PM
I'd liken that most dealerships would rather re/re the engine than actually fix it.

punkwax
08-09-2022, 06:29 PM
Sold my old ‘86 Accord with 424,000kms and turned a profit doing so :cool:

68style
08-09-2022, 06:38 PM
2000-2003 1zz motor is famous for oil usage issues

That said their engine price is hilarious… $2800 for a 154k one?? I bought a 130k 1zz from an 07 Corolla for $800 less than a year ago and even that was overpaying. You can buy a 2zz with the transmission for less than they want.

I also paid $1000 for remove/replace… not the $2400 they want

So basically they’re overcharging about $3,500+

teggy604
08-09-2022, 07:56 PM
190,000km is peanuts for a Toyota. That just the break in point. Lol. Scrap value might get $100 bucks.
Dealers will throw in a used engine. It makes sense cost wise. Nobody going to pay dealership shop rate to rebuild a 2003 Corolla engine.

Teriyaki
08-09-2022, 07:58 PM
Corolla needs a new engine? Opportunity to put in a race engine with a 11,000 Redline!

twitchyzero
08-09-2022, 08:20 PM
was reading this yesterday and wondering if there was more to the story..perhaps low oil?

Toyota Master Technician Argues Against 10,000 Mile Oil Change Intervals With Busted Engine Teardown

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/08/toyota-master-technician-argues-against-10000-mile-oil-change-intervals-with-busted-engine-teardown/

Peturbo
08-10-2022, 07:07 AM
2000-2003 1zz motor is famous for issues

That said their engine price is hilarious… $2800 for a 154k one?? I bought a 130k 1zz from an 07 Corolla for $800 less than a year ago and even that was overpaying. You can buy a 2zz with the transmission for less than they want.

I also paid $1000 for remove/replace… not the $2400 they want

So basically they’re overcharging about $3,500+

I dont think that would fly in todays market. I'd rather not work all day than take only $1k for engine swap. thats only about 6hrs of labour.

TurboTalon
08-10-2022, 07:21 AM
They quoted 16 hrs labour, which is probably 6-8 hours too much.

yray
08-10-2022, 07:49 AM
LS swap

surprised they are willing to put a used engine in it at the dealer level

68style
08-10-2022, 08:09 AM
I dont think that would fly in todays market. I'd rather not work all day than take only $1k for engine swap. thats only about 6hrs of labour.

Me neither, but that’s what I paid less than a year ago.

prudz
08-10-2022, 08:14 AM
I'd be happy if Toyota disposed of the car and covered the cost of the inspection.

trollface
08-10-2022, 08:26 AM
Shit happens.

tegra7
08-10-2022, 09:36 AM
Wow $148HR for labor is cheap compared to some dealerships.

radeonboy
08-10-2022, 09:40 AM
Wow $148HR for labor is cheap compared to some dealerships.

Isn't the labour rate standardized across all Toyota dealers?

320icar
08-10-2022, 11:34 AM
Isn't the labour rate standardized across all Toyota dealers?

Other dealerships = other brands. I was quoted $157/hr at ford last week

underscore
08-11-2022, 12:50 PM
The engine bay in the Matrix has tons of room, it should be dead simple for someone to swap a good motor into it. I wouldn't pay the dealer to do it but in this market there's bound to be someone wanting to buy it, slap a motor in it, and flip it for a few bucks so I'd toss it on Craigslist.

mb_
08-11-2022, 09:00 PM
1ZZ motor has oil burning/consumption issues, engine probably ran low on oil and wasn't caught which lead to its death

JDMDreams
08-11-2022, 10:29 PM
K20 swap:drunk:

fliptuner
08-11-2022, 11:45 PM
If it's manual, I'll buy it

dark0821
08-13-2022, 09:49 AM
and with the cash from fliptuner, I will find you a good vehicle.... after I start on the 24th rofl.... XD

fliptuner
08-14-2022, 12:32 PM
I'm parting an 08 Matrix manual right now. I should be able to make something work

PM sent

EvoFire
08-14-2022, 02:45 PM
08 is gen2 though?

fliptuner
08-14-2022, 04:07 PM
CDM, 08 is the last MY of first gen

Acura604
08-18-2022, 11:45 AM
the car has been SOLD. think she got $1000 for it.