[k3mps]

Just a reminder to all...

New Tax rules for private sales kick in October 1.

Tax will be calculated on deemed worth of vehicle instead of sale price.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/b-c-to-change-sales-tax-on-used-cars-adding-insult-to-injury-says-critic-1.5819761

[Badhobz]

Fuck you icbc. Fuck you right in the cunt.

[JDMDreams]

So how do we know the value? How are they able to commie us like that?:accepted:

[Mikoyan]

As much as I dislike ICBC, isn't this on the provincial Government as it's a PST issue?

I guess too many people underdeclared the sales price.

[JDMDreams]

Yea but what happens if person x can't afford the tax. Their $10000 car is now worth $20000 according to the government. How do I buy a car if I don't know what the total cost is. An integra type r is a 20 year old pos so it's only worth $3000 in taxes? even though I paid $20000?:lawl:

[Traum]

If the province is gonna do it like this, I think the least they can do is to make those average value figures publicly available so that the public is never kept in the dark on what they can expect to get taxed on.

[Spoon]

Anyone know a shady mechanic? :smug:

[Dbone]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea of this tax is to punish private sales and force us to handover money to the politically donating class by using their dealers.
The value of our trade-in is reduced from the sale price, thus 'saving' us sales tax on the new car.

If ICBC told us the number, then we could turn around and claim that when trading in a car right?

No way the government of BC would want that kind of level playing field.

[68style]

I mean, they had this system in place already to determine if you were claiming under market value on your purchase.

They're just eliminating your ability to lie about it now............

In some cases it might work in your favour, in others not...

However, before they were just using KBB for this... so if you want to know, just go on KBB and put in the vehicle and private sale, you should have a reasonable approximation based on that.

[donk.]

Looks like all my future car purchases are going to have a couple fuses pulled prior to dropping it off at the mechanic

[The Producer]

So how do we know the value? How are they able to commie us like that?:accepted:

this says they're using black book

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/taxes/sales-taxes/publications/notice-2022-005-pst-on-motor-vehicles-purchased-at-private-sales-or-imported-from-outside-canada.pdf

https://www.canadianblackbook.com/value-your-vehicle/

now I want to know how to get the black book values without having to give all my contact info.

might have to setup some dummy emails just to do this (and phone number? fuck). I know these guys will sell my data


EDIT: not even trying to hide it - and you have to verify your phone number. Tofu? are there any backdoors into this site? offline blackbook?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52393586391_5a2f78cb65_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2nPQPSp)Picture1 (https://flic.kr/p/2nPQPSp) by GhstRidr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostrider79/), on Flickr

[freakshow]

not trying to be an ICBC defender, but the CBB value will be the trade in value. So for most people (maybe not on this forum), wouldn't that actually be lower than their probable purchase price?

[mikemhg]

We shouldn't be taxing used car sales in the first place.

[The Producer]

no - it won't be lower than the price everyone declares on private used vehicle purchases

this has nothing to do w trade ins (besides using that value as a metric) this is about busting private vehicle deals that get put through below market for tax savings.

We shouldn't be taxing used car sales in the first place.

easily my biggest pet peeve. closely followed by spam calls

[68style]

Looks like all my future car purchases are going to have a couple fuses pulled prior to dropping it off at the mechanic

Condition and why the amount is lower is not longer a factor.

[underscore]

So it just fucks over poor people who can only afford a more beat up car with some flaws.

[donk.]

"poor people in vancouver" :lawl:

[G0rilla]

No more paying for cars with cash

[JDMDreams]

How do you value JDM cars then?

[The Producer]

How do you value JDM cars then?

did you read the white sheet I posted?

The new purchase price rules for motor vehicles do not apply to all motor vehicles.
The following types of vehicles are not subject to the new rules:
 Motor vehicles where the average wholesale value cannot be determined (e.g.
the average wholesale value of the motor vehicle is not listed in the Canadian
Black Book valuation guide by year, make, model and trim)

if you can't find the car in the book - the new rule doesn't apply.

this seems like a possible loophole

[immorality]

"poor people in vancouver" :lawl:

I think the amount of people that live here and are "struggling" is probably staggering.

[k3mps]

If the province is gonna do it like this, I think the least they can do is to make those average value figures publicly available so that the public is never kept in the dark on what they can expect to get taxed on.

100% agree.

I honestly forgot about this kicking in... I'm surprised there isn't more focus on this these days. I couldn't find anything posted on this subject from ICBC or P.BC

[teggy604]

did you read the white sheet I posted?


if you can't find the car in the book - the new rule doesn't apply.

this seems like a possible loophole

I dont think they care too much for the older cars. Majority of the cars will be in the book. I think the book goes back 10 yrs?

[meme405]

So it just fucks over poor people who can only afford a more beat up car with some flaws.

This is what I dont understand.

You buy a car with a blown motor for example, and you get to pay taxes on it as if it was a perfectly operating vehicle?

What about salvage titles, etc.

This makes no fucking sense. Fuck you ICBC, you just start getting your feet back under you then you go and do this.

[68style]

lol it isn’t ICBC

What does PST stand for?

[mikemhg]

This is what I dont understand.

You buy a car with a blown motor for example, and you get to pay taxes on it as if it was a perfectly operating vehicle?

What about salvage titles, etc.

This makes no fucking sense. Fuck you ICBC, you just start getting your feet back under you then you go and do this.

That's what I'm curious about, how does this work for rebuilds or vehicles with some serious mechanical issue?

They still access that vehicle based on its standard value?

That's completely insane.

[underscore]

According to the article if you have a mechanic inspect it you can have the value adjusted, but that's still stupid and a huge waste of time and money. I'm also guessing they wouldn't reduce the taxes if someone overpays for a car either.

And since it's PST are they going to do this to everything? You'll pay taxes based on MSRP if something is on sale or a particular store has a big markup?

[JDMDreams]

Anyone buy a car yet, and see how hard you get raped? I asked my insurance guy and he said there isn't really a public place where we can look up values, I would have to give him vin and they can quote me. :rukidding: lol or pay buddy guy to write you a note that it's a pos worth $500 :lawl:

[Qmx323]

I might be. Just called a few places but they won't give me the tax total. Even if I offer all my info. I'm just trying to budget it out, guess I'll just have to head down there tomorrow.

[JDMDreams]

How the hell can they not quote you? What magically changes if you stand in front of them lol :suspicious: cuz I ain't handing over cash till I know how much I need:fulloffuck:

[jpark]

“If you want to challenge that, you’ll have to pay a mechanic to do some sort of appraisal"

So if im actually buying a car with a blown motor, ill have to pay for towing to get the car to the mechanic, pay inspection fees, and pay for towing back. Which will cost more than the tax price, nice lol

[MichaelM]

Called a broker the other day, gave them the VIN over the phone and they told me the black book value right then and there. Overall they seemed very confused by the whole situation given it only came in a few days earlier but I wasn't complaining in this case :ifyouknow:

[nismodrifter]

Government shouldn't be involved in private sales period. Cash grab gone too far now.

[Badhobz]

or we can all chip in and start revscene car inspectors inc and then "inspect" these cars for you.

LIMITED LIABILITY lololololool

just dont ask Junki Lee to do it

[bcrdukes]

Whose got a private modder?

[donk.]

just dont ask Junki Lee to do it

You don't ask junkie lee to do it, he does it without you knowing

[JDMDreams]

So I picked up a new beater, I called my insurance guy with the vin before hand and wore the amount he told me. But when I was at the insurance place I think they looked at an even lower value. As on the black book there is excellent, average and poor. I put the average amount but the insurance rep mentioned about the poor condition amount :pokerface::fuuuuu:

[trollface]

So you're saying there are three grades you can choose from.

[JDMDreams]

Yes there's 3 black book grades Clean, Average, Rough

[bcrdukes]

You dummy. A beater should be poor condition, not average. Average defeats the idea of a beater!

[68style]

No car guy's beater is actually a beater.

[JDMDreams]

Yea by beater turned out to be sorta better condition than my more expensive summer car:pokerface::okay: running into the car guy problem of getting a beater for the beater

[Zedbra]

I was speaking to my broker the other day about this new change on the taxes. KBB only goes back 15 years and only applies to cars and trucks - all recreational vehicles are excluded. He said that if the vehicle isn't in the Canadian KBB, they are to search the USA version for value and use the current dollar conversion to assess value; he has to check and click through the system he has done such before they can process any transfer. He looked up my 2019 Jetta with 90k on it, the value in the KBB was $26,950.00. I think it was only $32k pre tax when I bought it three years ago

[The Producer]

just did my first deal under the new system (i was seller). we asked about varying vehicle conditions within the blackbook and was told there is only one number per vehicle - wholesale value.

my buyer paid tax on the amount. On the plus side, wholesale value is pretty low.

i did ask about vehicle age and the agent confirmed that MY2000 is the cutoff. Anything prior is just the old declared price system

[Badhobz]

how does exotics work in this new bullshit scheme?

i dont think there's a blackbook value for F cars or Maserati's. Its the same thing when it came in insuring the damn thing before.. they couldnt find the blackbook value so it was all just guesstimates as to what the write off cost would be.

[dark0821]

How often do F cars sell/buy privately?

I mean people with the cash will want financing/balloon financing the car anyways, as what they can accomplish with 200K to 500K cash will probably net them more profit that tne interest over the course of their ownership? IE putting 200k into downpayment of a condo and watch it make money over the course of 5 years of your F car ownership?

And people without the cash will need financing...

Do people really reverse-mortgage their house to spend 300K on a car? (asking for a friend) XD

[Badhobz]

Before all this madness, Quite a bit I think. Bentleys, Aston’s, Lambos were readily available on Craigslist. I saw a few gallardos and even aventadors change hands privately.

200k cash might sound like a lot but it’s really nothing compared to houses which these guys also buy in cash. Yes they could do more with the cash but they have enough money they don’t give a rats ass.

Nobody’s gonna reverse mortgage to buy a exotic. It’s only the dudes who can vastly afford it that will even consider playing this game as 5-10k on service is the norm.

[k3mps]

Didn't take long for a news example.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/14/man-in-surrey-bought-1200-car-but-has-to-pay-pst-bill-on-4000-value/amp/

I love the Province's answer in the article: "It also says it can be done by a business outside of B.C. "

[kjlks]

... KBB only goes back 15 years ...

Does this mean vehicles older than 15 years/not in KBB are exempt from this?

If not then how would they determine the value?

[JDMDreams]

^^ by what you write on the form, the old way. I think they tax only up from 2000 and newer, JDM is old way.

[Special K]

Didn't take long for a news example.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/14/man-in-surrey-bought-1200-car-but-has-to-pay-pst-bill-on-4000-value/amp/

I love the Province's answer in the article: "It also says it can be done by a business outside of B.C. "

12% on $1200 = $144
12% on $4000 = $480
Difference is $336

It’s the principle, but I’m pretty sure that it’s not worth the time and expense to fight $350. At the end, buyer/seller lose money.

[JDMDreams]

^^ so are you gonna round up your income and property tax to the next thousand?:suspicious:

[Special K]

^^ so are you gonna round up your income and property tax to the next thousand?:suspicious:

I’m not saying I agree with the new policy. However, time is money. Why spend $200-250 (my guess) for an appraisal when the taxes owed is $350? Move on and make money elsewhere.

[meme405]

Sounds like a sick new business idea, since the appraisals can be done remotely.

Dont know what it takes to get registered as an appraiser. But seems like easy money. Get the person to take some pictures of the car, list the issues, etc. Boom appraisal done.

Post your services on here, and a couple places on FB, and bet you will have lots of people lined up for your services.

[yray]

icbc can kbb my write off

:lol

oh wait... I drive old ass rovers now so lets bae it off BaT prices

[JDMDreams]

^^ I honestly don't know how ICBC values cars, I see $3000 to $6000 cars get into $4000 accidents and they still get fixed, clean title :fulloffuck: not sure if it's cuz it's still cheaper to fix than payout

[G0rilla]

https://media.makeameme.org/created/truth-its-whatever.jpg

[Qmx323]

https://youtu.be/dvYvQeNeq3A?t=35

[trollface]

^^ I honestly don't know how ICBC values cars, I see $3000 to $6000 cars get into $4000 accidents and they still get fixed, clean title :fulloffuck: not sure if it's cuz it's still cheaper to fix than payout

ICBC values cars VERY high right now. They will fix almost anything atm.

We managed to write off the 4k rebuilt Z4 and got 7k.

[BaoTurbo]

Sounds like a sick new business idea, since the appraisals can be done remotely.

Dont know what it takes to get registered as an appraiser. But seems like easy money. Get the person to take some pictures of the car, list the issues, etc. Boom appraisal done.

Post your services on here, and a couple places on FB, and bet you will have lots of people lined up for your services.

Someone is on it already

https://www.dealteamsix.ca/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwhsmaBhCvARIsAIbEbH4rJMDT5JiHlWhuC2J QVIVkXTLKYkHDVGofb_zs7v8RsZf68_hAOw4aAgU5EALw_wcB

$100 a pop, however I wonder how they prove they are legit.

My manager did an appraisal yesterday as a favour for someone, obviously we have all the licenses to validate that appraisal. (business license, wholesae, VSA, dealer etc etc)

[GIZZ]

Is ICBC looking for that "appraisal form FIN-20"? I can't find the form online.

[fliptuner]

Is ICBC looking for that "appraisal form FIN-20"? I can't find the form online.
Sent

[Bouncing Bettys]

I was rear-ended at a red light recently. Car is likely a write-off as it's an 09. Am I to understand that when ICBC cuts me a cheque for their perceived value of my car, I will then go purchase a used replacement vehicle, and ICBC will substantially ding me on what I end up buying?

[Eff-1]

Yes and no.

ICBC will value your car based on blue book pricing, plus they'll add PST/GST. They'll pay you out accordingly.

Now if you choose to buy a replacement vehicle, you will have to pay PST on the purchase, which goes to the provincial government. The PST for your replacement car is calculated using blue book pricing, not the actual price negotiated.

So depending on how much you get for the write-off, and what kind of replacement car you buy, and how much you pay for it, it's too early to say if you'll get substantially dinged or not.

[The Producer]

I was rear-ended at a red light recently. Car is likely a write-off as it's an 09. Am I to understand that when ICBC cuts me a cheque for their perceived value of my car, I will then go purchase a used replacement vehicle, and ICBC will substantially ding me on what I end up buying?

as opposed to what?

you would always have paid tax on your replacement vehicle (old or new system)

[J____]

so what happens when i gift my cars to family or friends for free? they have to pay tax? that's ridiculous. I transfer my cars between my family all the time when I don't need them so they can buy insurance.

[van_driver]

Friend recently bought a car privately last week and he paid $5k more than the ICBC black book value so ICBC charged him PST based on the higher amount that he paid

[The Producer]

Friend recently bought a car privately last week and he paid $5k more than the ICBC black book value so ICBC charged him PST based on the higher amount that he paid

obviously on a private sale you would find out in advance what the black book amount is and try to declare the selling price to be that exact amount. unless the seller is a dik this is a no brainer.


so what happens when i gift my cars to family or friends for free? they have to pay tax? that's ridiculous. I transfer my cars between my family all the time when I don't need them so they can buy insurance.

unless your family were these people, you haven't been able to do what you're doing for years. all the power to you - but it's been this way for ages.

“Related individual” means:
(a) a person’s spouse (legally married or living for
a continuous period of at least 2 years with another
person in a marriage-like relationship), child, grandchild,
greatgrandchild, parent, grandparent, greatgrandparent,
or sibling, or
(b) the spouse of a person’s child, grandchild or great
grandchild, or
(c) the child, parent, grandparent or greatgrandparent of
a person’s spouse.

you couldn't gift a car to a friend for free and pay no tax, even before this most recent change

is there still a close family exemption under the new system? I don't know. the forms continued existence on the gov website implies that it is still a thing.

[Badhobz]

i believe its family only.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/taxes/sales-taxes/forms/fin-319-exemption-gift-vehicle.pdf

“Related individual” means:
(a) a person’s spouse (legally married or living for
a continuous period of at least 2 years with another
person in a marriage-like relationship), child, grandchild,
greatgrandchild, parent, grandparent, greatgrandparent,
or sibling, or
(b) the spouse of a person’s child, grandchild or great
grandchild, or
(c) the child, parent, grandparent or greatgrandparent of
a person’s spouse.

[Qmx323]

obviously on a private sale you would find out in advance what the black book amount is and try to declare the selling price to be that exact amount. unless the seller is a dik this is a no brainer.

Yup - About the pull the trigger on something and after emailing the consent thing into them they were able to provide me the BB value... which I will be... coordinating... to produce a more favorable outcome for me financially....

So basically... this is EXACTLY like the old system. In this situation. lol.

[JDMDreams]

Well there's one more phone call, and not all cars sell for $1000 anymore:pokerface::awwyeah::lawl:

[Messerschmitt]

Sounds like a sick new business idea, since the appraisals can be done remotely.

Dont know what it takes to get registered as an appraiser. But seems like easy money. Get the person to take some pictures of the car, list the issues, etc. Boom appraisal done.

Post your services on here, and a couple places on FB, and bet you will have lots of people lined up for your services.

Someone is on it already

https://www.dealteamsix.ca/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwhsmaBhCvARIsAIbEbH4rJMDT5JiHlWhuC2J QVIVkXTLKYkHDVGofb_zs7v8RsZf68_hAOw4aAgU5EALw_wcB

$100 a pop, however I wonder how they prove they are legit.

My manager did an appraisal yesterday as a favour for someone, obviously we have all the licenses to validate that appraisal. (business license, wholesae, VSA, dealer etc etc)

So, what courses/licences/certificates do you need to be an appraiser? I'm really interested in doing this as part time gig.

Thanks

[6thGear.]

Blood related family only, is what an autoplan agent told me. My FIL wants to give us 1 of his cars. Gifting it to my wife will bypass the new tax rules but really I'll probably drive it mostly.



i believe its family only.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/taxes/sales-taxes/forms/fin-319-exemption-gift-vehicle.pdf

“Related individual” means:
(a) a person’s spouse (legally married or living for
a continuous period of at least 2 years with another
person in a marriage-like relationship), child, grandchild,
greatgrandchild, parent, grandparent, greatgrandparent,
or sibling, or
(b) the spouse of a person’s child, grandchild or great
grandchild, or
(c) the child, parent, grandparent or greatgrandparent of
a person’s spouse.

[Badhobz]

Stupid ass icbc.

If I was feeling generous after winning the lottery and decided to gift trollface a golf R, I can’t even do that without him having to pay the tax on the golf r ?!? What horseshit is this!? I might as well move back to communist China

[donk.]

Speaking of car tax

/ Not Canada

I just picked up a car in NZ, was expecting to pay 300$ on 2500$.
Transfer tax was 9$ :awwyeah:

Then I went to get insurance, expecting like 1500$ per year for basic
Was 182$ for 12 months, if I wanted full coverage 600$, I had to ask the lady a second time to confirm the numbers :derp:

Then I went to get gas, everything else was 75-90% cheaper than Vancouver, so my brain automatically assumed gas would be cheap too.
2.70$ for regular :drunk:

[68style]

They wanted $600 for full coverage insurance even without a driver history? Or you brought your history with you.

Amazing haha… I’ve always read NZ has some pretty strict road rules though, but I can’t remember the context now.

How are you liking it there so far? Which area did you locate to? Should post about your adventure in the travel forum!

[headhunt3r]

Stupid ass icbc.

If I was feeling generous after winning the lottery and decided to gift trollface a golf R, I can’t even do that without him having to pay the tax on the golf r ?!? What horseshit is this!? I might as well move back to communist China

Sure you can, you pay the tax for him too!

[trollface]

Aw, too bad.

[donk.]

They wanted $600 for full coverage insurance even without a driver history? Or you brought your history with you.

Amazing haha… I’ve always read NZ has some pretty strict road rules though, but I can’t remember the context now.

How are you liking it there so far? Which area did you locate to? Should post about your adventure in the travel forum!

The woman asked me a bunch of questions about my driving record, and it's all entered on good will by Canadian passport / DL mix

The people that drive here are are nuts, I drove to Piha yesterday, through the winding roads, it's all 35-55 zoned, there a good 4-6 of us all keeping 70-90 in slalom.... Not sure if I got a good batch of randoms, or this is just life :ahwow:

20C weather :fullofwin: how can I complain.
Il probably end up posting bits and pieces on random threads. Will be in Raglan most of the time

[EvoFire]

Speaking of car tax

/ Not Canada

I just picked up a car in NZ, was expecting to pay 300$ on 2500$.
Transfer tax was 9$ :awwyeah:

Then I went to get insurance, expecting like 1500$ per year for basic
Was 182$ for 12 months, if I wanted full coverage 600$, I had to ask the lady a second time to confirm the numbers :derp:

Then I went to get gas, everything else was 75-90% cheaper than Vancouver, so my brain automatically assumed gas would be cheap too.
2.70$ for regular :drunk:

Did you get a visa to live and work there? Or you doing some kind of TG shenanigans with buying a car?

[donk.]

Did you get a visa to live and work there? Or you doing some kind of TG shenanigans with buying a car?

Yeah, work holiday visa.
Landed on 28th at noon, bought a car 28th 6pm by some auction site without even seeing it, surfboard 29th 2pm, hit the waves 6pm

I hear there's snow in Vancouver :troll:

[EvoFire]

Yeah, work holiday visa.
Landed on 28th at noon, bought a car 28th 6pm by some auction site without even seeing it, surfboard 29th 2pm, hit the waves 6pm

I hear there's snow in Vancouver :troll:

That's cool! I wonder if you'll like it so much that you'll just stay there. Heard it's a great place.

Yeah there was a little white stuff that fell. Not sure what all the fuss was about :awwyeah:

[mikemhg]

Yeah, work holiday visa.
Landed on 28th at noon, bought a car 28th 6pm by some auction site without even seeing it, surfboard 29th 2pm, hit the waves 6pm

I hear there's snow in Vancouver :troll:

What are you doing for work down there? I thought you worked in RE.

[westopher]

I thought donk was an hvac guy?

[donk.]

What are you doing for work down there? I thought you worked in RE.

I'm pretty sure mikemhg is trolling this forum, and westopher fell for it

Gonna derail this thread some more :accepted:

Went in for an HVAC interview two days ago, by the looks of it, I have a temp position for the next 3 months.
The one thing I messed up is not getting a local bank account and tax number set up in advance.

If I'm lucky, they are gonna let me know tomorrow if they can just bank my hours, otherwise I'm gonna need to wait 2-3 weeks before they can legally employ me

The pay is probably gonna be half of what I normally make, but considering: I don't have 10k in tools with me, I'm here temporarily, it's part time, and way more than me getting some serving or retail job, il take it

[EvoFire]

I'm pretty sure mikemhg is trolling this forum, and westopher fell for it

Gonna derail this thread some more :accepted:

Went in for an HVAC interview two days ago, by the looks of it, I have a temp position for the next 3 months.
The one thing I messed up is not getting a local bank account and tax number set up in advance.

If I'm lucky, they are gonna let me know tomorrow if they can just bank my hours, otherwise I'm gonna need to wait 2-3 weeks before they can legally employ me

The pay is probably gonna be half of what I normally make, but considering: I don't have 10k in tools with me, I'm here temporarily, it's part time, and way more than me getting some serving or retail job, il take it

I'm excited for you. I'm too established now in Vancouver(2nd kid coming, big mortgage) to do something like this and if you don't mind, make a new thread so I can live through your experiences.

[mikemhg]

I'm pretty sure mikemhg is trolling this forum, and westopher fell for it

Gonna derail this thread some more :accepted:

Went in for an HVAC interview two days ago, by the looks of it, I have a temp position for the next 3 months.
The one thing I messed up is not getting a local bank account and tax number set up in advance.

If I'm lucky, they are gonna let me know tomorrow if they can just bank my hours, otherwise I'm gonna need to wait 2-3 weeks before they can legally employ me

The pay is probably gonna be half of what I normally make, but considering: I don't have 10k in tools with me, I'm here temporarily, it's part time, and way more than me getting some serving or retail job, il take it

So you're not down there dancing at the Femme Fatale then? Nice.

[Badhobz]

I'm excited for you. I'm too established now in Vancouver(2nd kid coming, big mortgage) to do something like this and if you don't mind, make a new thread so I can live through your experiences.

2nd kid!? holy shit you brave :alonehappy:

[Messerschmitt]

Anyone knows the cutoff year that ICBC isn't using blue/black book for taxation and goes old style by what you declared you bought?

Is it 20 years? Or 2000 and older?

[68style]

Yes 99 and older is on the old system

[JDMDreams]

Or JDM cars

[Messerschmitt]

Yes 99 and older is on the old system

Or JDM cars


Darn, so not the last 20 years as per kelly blue book eh?

[The Producer]

i didn't think I could hate ICBC more but I have a new peeve

Over the course of the year I visit many different brokers. I don't care who it is - whoever is closer. I have zero loyalty to the brokers. Pick up, drop off, swap plates - whatever.

Now that the online renewal has begun - i thought this would reduce my interaction w useless brokers.

I have received 5!! reminder calls in the past 3 days that my insurance is up this week - all from different brokerages. Places I have been sure - but not for this specific car. Does every broker I've ever been to now have unlimited access to the ICBC database to see what cars are up for renewal?

FUCK OFF I KNOW IT'S DUE. WHY WOULD I PAY EARLY. NEVER CALL ME AGAIN

I hope they're getting screwed by the online renewals. The whole system is shit.

[donk.]

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I have received 5!! reminder calls in the past 3 days that my insurance is up this week - all from different brokerages. Places I have been sure - but not for this specific car. Does every broker I've ever been to now have unlimited access to the ICBC database to see what cars are up for renewal?

FUCK OFF I KNOW IT'S DUE. WHY WOULD I PAY EARLY. NEVER CALL ME AGAIN

I hope they're getting screwed by the online renewals. The whole system is shit.

Leave em a review on google, spam is spam

[Dbone]

I went to renew online, and it said I had to download some bullshit government app for my phone? Why would I give them that kind of access?

[SSM_DC5]

Isn't it the bc services app? It's linked to a lot of other government sites for using online services.