[danned]

https://twitter.com/100NEWS/status/1671319708929335297
3m ago
06.26 BST
Recovering the missing Titan submersible and bringing its crew to safety in time using the latest advanced deep-sea rescue equipment would be an extremely difficult task, an expert has said.

Even if Titan is located, a successful rescue would require remote-controlled vehicles (ROVs) capable of allowing operators on the surface a clear view of the submersible’s location, any obstacles that may be present and where to attach cables capable of lifting it thousands of metres through the water.

If the Titan and its five-person crew did arrive at the Titanic wreck, they will be located 3,800 metres (12,500ft) below the surface on the seabed – too deep for most ROVs to reach. Only a “tiny percentage of the world’s submarines operate that deeply”, David Marquet, a former US Navy submarine commander, told CBC.

If you’re just joining us and looking to catch up on the technical challenges that face rescuers attempting to reach the sub, read the full report here:

Experts say rescuing Titan submersible ‘a very difficult task’
Read more

13m ago
06.16 BST
Though authorities and those involved in the hunt for the Titan submersible, the challenges should not be underestimated.

The area of ocean where the vessel is lost is remote and rugged – and the wreck of the Titanic lies roughly 3700m below sea level.

If that is hard to conceptualise, this illustrated video captures the scale of the challenge.

Wendy Rush, who is married to Stockton Rush, Ceo of OceanGate and pilot aboard the Titan submersible, is also a descendent of a couple who lost their lives aboard the famed ship.

The New York Times reports that Rush is the great-great-granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus, two first-class passengers who were aboard the Titanic when it went down in 1912.

The couple were among the Titanic’s wealthiest passengers. Isidor and his brother co-owned a Macy’s department store.

Survivors reported watching Isidor refuse a seat on a life raft to allow women and children to get on board. Ida chose to remain with him. The scene was recreated in the film dramatisation of the disaster.

Wendy nee Hollings Weil married Stockton Rush in 1986.

She is also the communications director at OceanGate and has personally visited the Titanic wreck three times.

[danned]

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[EmperorIS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM

[Razor Ramon HG]

https://i.imgur.com/GYRKPw7.jpg

Hitman fans unite.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Officially out of air, although chances are that it ran out long ago.

Wonder how long it'll take to recover or if they'll ever recover the sub.

[whitev70r]

May have entered into an unsolved mystery along with Malaysian Airline MH370 ... may never find it.

[Badhobz]

How is this even news, who cares.

[Hondaracer]

It’s kinda funny the contrast of when that Russian sub got stuck at the bottom and every country in the world was trying to do somthing. Send their condolences etc.

When it’s a home made tube with a bunch of billionaires everyone just makes memes and changes the channel lol

Typical stupid rich guy shit and they paid the price. Wtf is the point of going down there to look through a computer monitor. Do you really love the titanic that much or you’re just some knob running out of things to do

[Badhobz]

total knob man. like seriously you cant even see jack shit sitting inside that stupid tube
and whatever you are seeing, its probably through an LCD. Then you might as well go watch James Cameron titanic documentary.

why are we wasting tax payer dollars even searching for these idiots. Send the bill to their estates

[pastarocket]

It’s kinda funny the contrast of when that Russian sub got stuck at the bottom and every country in the world was trying to do somthing. Send their condolences etc.

When it’s a home made tube with a bunch of billionaires everyone just makes memes and changes the channel lol

Typical stupid rich guy shit and they paid the price. Wtf is the point of going down there to look through a computer monitor. Do you really love the titanic that much or you’re just some knob running out of things to do


Good article about some rich people who like "extreme" tourism.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/business/oceangate-expeditions-titanic-tourism-cost-dangers/index.html

Extreme tourism has become a growing trend among thrill-seekers looking for an adrenaline rush, pushing the boundaries of conventional travel and, sometimes, of safe travel. OceanGate Expeditions, for example, is among several companies that cater to demand from private individuals wanting to explore the seas and even the seemingly unreachable depths of the worldÂ’s oceans.


“What I’ve seen with the ultra-rich – money is no object when it comes to experiences. They want something they they’ll never forget,” said Nick D’Annunzio, the owner of TARA, Ink., a public relations firm specializing in special events.

For some rich people, perhaps it is the ability to experience something that few people have experienced before.

They want an unforgettable experience.

Oh I believe that part about the unforgettable experience for sure for those 5 people in this Titan sub. :considered:

They will never ever forget about this experience. The sad part about this experience is that those five rich people will not live to talk about this experience with other people.

Honestly, If I had the money I would much rather spend it on a Porsche ICE experience in northern Finland. -learn how to drift in a Porsche in winter weather conditions.

-much cheaper and probably safer than trying to go down 19 thousand feet under water in a submersible to look at a shipwreck.

https://experience.porsche.com/Ice/Ice-Experience/About-Ice-Experience

What about space tourism? The rocket ship experience in that Blue Origin rocket module? Just gotta pay millions to take a space trip in a flying dildo. LUL

-examples of extreme Tourism:

https://observer.com/2022/06/blue-origin-space-tourism-pricing-marketing/

Virgin Galactic:

Virgin Galactic
https://brochure.virgingalactic.com › pricing
Initial deposit: $150,000 * · Final balance: $300,000 · Total Flight Cost: $450,000

[radeonboy]

Honestly, If I had the money I would much rather spend it on a Porsche ICE experience in northern Finland. -learn how to drift in a Porsche in winter weather conditions.

-much cheaper and probably safer than trying to go down 19 thousand feet under water in a submersible to look at a shipwreck.

https://experience.porsche.com/Ice/Ice-Experience/About-Ice-Experience

What about space tourism? The rocket ship experience in that Blue Origin rocket module? Just gotta pay millions to take a space trip in a flying dildo. LUL

-examples of extreme Tourism:

https://observer.com/2022/06/blue-origin-space-tourism-pricing-marketing/

Virgin Galactic:

Virgin Galactic
https://brochure.virgingalactic.com › pricing
Initial deposit: $150,000 * · Final balance: $300,000 · Total Flight Cost: $450,000

They likely did those activities some time ago. If someone's willing to go to such extreme depths to see the Titanic then I imagine they've already checked off a ton of other activities most of us cannot imagine. A Porsche ICE experience in Finland is probably a Tuesday activity for them.

Paying for 6-figure events like this are probably equivalent to us choosing a flavor of chips at a grocery store at their wealth level.

[Great68]

Latest news is that USCG found a debris field near the titanic, a press conference is scheduled for 3pmET....

Doesn't sound good.

[Spoon]

Can't help but wonder what took place when they realize there's 5 people using up limited oxygen.

[Great68]

I think it's more likely that this thing imploded as it was decending, especially if this debris field thing is true. Fortunately for them they wouldn't have felt anything, their deaths would have been quick.

[pastarocket]

I think it's more likely that this thing imploded as it was decending, especially if this debris field thing is true. Fortunately for them they wouldn't have felt anything, their deaths would have been quick.

-sounds like that the Titan sub imploded:

Debris found on ocean floor has been assessed to be from the external body of the Titan sub
From CNN's Priscilla Alvarez

The debris discovered within the search area of the missing Titanic submersible has been assessed to be from the external body of the sub, according to a memo reviewed by CNN.

The search for the crew capsule of the Titan vessel continues, the memo says.

The debris was located on the ocean floor, roughly 500 meters (about a third of a mile) off of the bow of the Titanic, and it was found around 8:55 a.m. ET.

It was discovered by a remotely operated vehicle that was searching the seafloor, according to the US Coast Guard.

[haha13]

coast guard press conference says the debris is from the titan. It imploded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm64V5XSSLg

[bcrdukes]

Wow, that is terrible. RIP

[Razor Ramon HG]

Dying from a sudden implosion was the best outcome for everyone that was inside.

[MarkyMark]

Yeah as crappy as it is for them this was best case scenario since they wouldn't have been able to be rescued in time and they'd just have to sit there for days waiting for death.

[Great68]

Man, I imagine this thing has been a ticking timebomb from its first trip down, with every stress cycle on the hull bringing it closer to failure.

Apparently Ron Toigo (Vancouver Giants owner) took that trip down a couple years ago. If I was him I'd be thanking my lucky stars right about now...

[JDMDreams]

Time for law suit? Maybe the Chinese blew it up jk. Yea sad, really hoped they'd make it.

I've said it before but I'm waiting for Elon clone dinosaur's if he threw a billion or two at it I'm sure we'll get there. I'd sure love to visit Jurassic Park and hopefully not get eaten.

[Badhobz]

Rest in pieces.

[Manic!]

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Inkquisitive
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Millionaires > Migrants
Did you know, last week, a boat holding almost 500 refugees sank off the coast of Greece? …AND this week, on almost EVERY news platform (visual, editorial and vocal) we have also been made aware of the 5 missing wealthy tourists seeking adventure at the wreckage of the Titanic. Both tragic, but guess which one is getting hour to hour coverage?
As I mentioned, both are extremely tragic circumstances and hope there can be a resolution for comfort to those having lost loved ones and strength to those living with fear and in hope. But I can’t seem to get my head around why in such circumstances, an alert just after 8 hours to authorites was made with both rescue teams, navies and air forces all in to find this missing submarine carrying these 5 tourists.
Yet 15 hours BEFORE the refugee boat sank an alert was also made. Now, with hundreds missing and many dead, not much coverage has transpired from this… and if I can be brutally honest, it’s evident the world doesn’t think the lives of these refugees are worth the same as those with wealth on their side. Both the refugees and the tourists set out on sea knowing the circumstances of “what could be”… where one group are seeking refuge away from their countries poor regime; war crimes and other means resulting for a better life away; the other group signed a waiver for a staggering $250,000 for the thrill of seeing a wreckage.
Double standards. Both the hundreds of refugees and the five wealthy tourists do NOT deserve to be in such traumatic and tragic circumstances and hope there can be some resolution but PLEASE let us not get sucked into what society wants to feed us, leaving behind the OTHER things that really matter…
Refugee stories like this get neglected and left to die and it showcases that very little has changed. As I started this caption, Millionaires over Migrants …let that sink in… SMH.

[MarkyMark]

Yep rich people get special treatment, more news at 11.

[Great68]

An event just off the shores of Canada and USA gets more coverage in Canada and USA than an event halfway across the world.

Total Shock.

[Badhobz]

https://globalnews.ca/news/9781242/csis-china-interference-intelligence-targeting-canadians/amp/

In other more interesting news. Maybe we can get troll face to rat on Chinese fucks and collect money on the side for his golf R.

How does one get recruited by China government ? How much does it pay ? Hmmmm interesting. :pokerface:

[pastarocket]

R.I.P.

[HonestTea]

RIP

[Gumby]

Interesting... OceanGate has been involved in lawsuits before, and a former employee was dismissed after speaking up about safety issues. OceanGate could be open to more lawsuits if there's evidence to show that they were negligent.

[StylinRed]

Imploding is better than slowly suffocating for days miles deep I guess, rip

There were many experts who claimed they warned ocean gates CEO about safety and durability issues but he scoffed at them and even made remarks about needing to break the rules to advance, also called the experts Old White Men who are uninspirational (hence why he only hired young ppl)

I saw a news reporter discuss how it's ridiculous that so much attention and resources are being given to help find and rescue these guys yet migrant ships, like the recent one off the coast of Greece, goes ignored even when they know the migrant ships are in distress

[EvoFire]

Imploding is better than slowly suffocating for days miles deep I guess, rip

There were many experts who claimed they warned ocean gates CEO about safety and durability issues but he scoffed at them and even made remarks about needing to break the rules to advance, also called the experts Old White Men who are uninspirational (hence why he only hired young ppl)

I saw a news reporter discuss how it's ridiculous that so much attention and resources are being given to help find and rescue these guys yet migrant ships, like the recent one off the coast of Greece, goes ignored even when they know the migrant ships are in distress

There's probably politics and games in that as no one wants to be responsible for an extra 500 refugees on their shores, no one wants to take responsibility, whereas this is a win if you find them, but no lost if you don't. It sucks but it is what it is.

[MarkyMark]

There were many experts who claimed they warned ocean gates CEO about safety and durability issues but he scoffed at them and even made remarks about needing to break the rules to advance, also called the experts Old White Men who are uninspirational (hence why he only hired young ppl)


Sounds like he didn't want to pay experienced people that would call him out on subpar safety standards and hired "inspiring young people" that will work for cheap and do what he says.

[SkinnyPupp]

CEO sounds like one of those egomaniac fuckfaces who thinks he's invincible and can do anything he wants. And then this is what happens

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1672001593930072065

[Hondaracer]

I saw somthing pop up on IG, not sure if it’s true but it said it’s far easier to design a vessel to go into space than it is to effectively go to this depth in the ocean?

Also more people had stepped on the moon than been to this depth or somthing? Lol

[HonestTea]

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1672001593930072065

Fitting that hes rocking the Deepsea Challenge Sea-Dweller lol

[SkinnyPupp]

I saw somthing pop up on IG, not sure if it’s true but it said it’s far easier to design a vessel to go into space than it is to effectively go to this depth in the ocean?

Also more people had stepped on the moon than been to this depth or somthing? Lol
Space has a vacuum of about -15 psi, so inverse of our surface pressure of 14.7 psi..

The pressure where the Titanic is reaches 6000 psi, so you can guess that the structure you're sending down there needs to be very well engineered to withstand that

For space, the main issue is getting things off the Earth and out of the atmosphere

[SkinnyPupp]

Fitting that hes rocking the Deepsea Challenge Sea-Dweller lol
Looked awesome on him! It's cool that he wears it, rather than keeping it stored away

https://i.imgur.com/iR9nWq1.png

[Badhobz]

im sure one of those rich mofo's was wearing one of these things. Probably somewhere on the ocean floor right now.

FREE ROLEX !! might come with bad juju / heart of the ocean theme song.

[AzNightmare]

What about space tourism? The rocket ship experience in that Blue Origin rocket module? Just gotta pay millions to take a space trip in a flying dildo. LUL

-examples of extreme Tourism:

https://observer.com/2022/06/blue-origin-space-tourism-pricing-marketing/



lol, the billionaire that was in that sub already went to space in the Blue Origin. He was already just so bored with life.

[SkinnyPupp]

im sure one of those rich mofo's was wearing one of these things. Probably somewhere on the ocean floor right now.

FREE ROLEX !! might come with bad juju / heart of the ocean theme song.

BRB going to collect a bunch of free Rolexes

https://i.redd.it/etdmht7c5h7b1.png

[PeanutButter]

Thank goodness they didn't have to suffer. The last couple of days I was just imagining them suffering inside that shell knowing they were going to die. I was thinking about being in there with your father knowing the end was certain and having to deal with the emotion of it all.

[StylinRed]

Thank goodness they didn't have to suffer. The last couple of days I was just imagining them suffering inside that shell knowing they were going to die. I was thinking about being in there with your father knowing the end was certain and having to deal with the emotion of it all.

I was wondering if they were all going to kill one another to buy more time for oxygen and wondering if the father n son would team up

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1672001577857449986

[Gumby]

Here's the full interview with James Cameron and Bob Ballard (who first discovered the Titanic wreck in 1985). They were nice about it, but very critical about how OceanGate went about their business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9YB31ElEFQ

[whitev70r]

The hull was made from experimental material ... a combination of titanium and carbon fibre, you know, the material that we car enthusiasts love. They are starting to make airplanes with carbon fibre but CF is known to lose strength and deterioration. Theory is that the carbon fibre deteriorated over time, apparently, this particular sub has made 13 other dives ... this was the straw that 'broke the camel's back' so to say.

[GLOW]

are we able to send robot controlled subs with fancy sensors, cameras etc to gather the data we need to?

or does it require a signal at certain depths that's lost?

if we have the tech capable it seems like an unneeded risk

[whitev70r]

^ I think the data gathering/science part is just one side of the coin, there are definitely unmanned deep dive subs but the other is the thrill and the adventure of seeing it yourself. It's a risk some people consider worth taking.

[Great68]

The hull was made from experimental material ... a combination of titanium and carbon fibre, you know, the material that we car enthusiasts love. They are starting to make airplanes with carbon fibre but CF is known to lose strength and deterioration. Theory is that the carbon fibre deteriorated over time, apparently, this particular sub has made 13 other dives ... this was the straw that 'broke the camel's back' so to say.

Pressurization cycles. Airplanes have a rating on the maximum number a particular fuselage is can do, whether it be a traditional metal airframe or a 787.

It's one of the reasons they stick older planes on the Victoria to Vancouver flight. Because they stay under 8000ft, they never pressurize the cabin.

This thing here is that they never did do the correct testing to establish what the maximum safe cycle rating on this sub should be. I guess they found out now that 13 was the limit lol.

[68style]

I've been kinda wondering with all the CF fuselage's and wings now too tbh... like... a lot of us watch hockey, we can see the tensile strength of those sticks and the crazy bend/whip they have... but then out of nowhere on the simplest plays they'll just shatter with no warning.

Kinda scary to think that planes are made of a similar type of material (I know that sticks are obviously a much lower grade... but still).

Be interesting to see how these planes age out.

[JDMDreams]

Yea I saw the interview last night with James and Bob and they were like they knew instantly, if everything breaks at the same time the sub was gone. But they didn't want to be negative Nancy's. But the true pros knew immediately. And yes they were shitting on their qc way they conduct business.

[Great68]

I've been kinda wondering with all the CF fuselage's and wings now too tbh... like... a lot of us watch hockey, we can see the tensile strength of those sticks and the crazy bend/whip they have... but then out of nowhere on the simplest plays they'll just shatter with no warning.

Kinda scary to think that planes are made of a similar type of material (I know that sticks are obviously a much lower grade... but still).

Be interesting to see how these planes age out.

The difference between this sub and the planes, is that planes have gone through rigourous design & testing reviews to be certified by the FAA. The maximum limits, lifespans etc should all be well known at this point.

The sub, had not had to undergo any of that.

[twitchyzero]

so eerie i was just watching a fictional movie on netflix about how to get extra oxygen with an unexpected passenger in space the day before this incidient

then yesterday just before news broke it imploded i was watching youtube about pagani's titanium infused in CF

was this a similar construction or the CF and titanium were separate layers?

[underscore]

Planes also aren't being repeatedly smashed into a hunk of frozen rubber as big as they are.

[N.V.M.]

I wonder how much $$$ just got inherited, total?

[JD¹³]

The stupidity of media asking if the bodies will be recovered hurts my brain. At that depth and pressure (approx 6000psi) as soon as the hull was compromised air didn't leak out all that pressure shot in. All the air and everything organic inside the sub was crushed down to a tiny point so instantaneously that the friction of the molecules under compression ignited them and caused an explosion. In automotive terms they had about 25x the compression exerted on them as your average turbo diesel engine. Their bodies ceased to exist in a matter of milliseconds.

[Great68]

Yeah they're just mushy matter at this point.

Back in the early 80's a bunch of divers on an oil rig died when their decompression chamber seal failed and experienced an explosive decompression.

The results were pretty fucking gruesome:


"Medical investigations were carried out on the remains of the four divers. The most notable finding was the presence of large amounts of fat in large arteries and veins and in the cardiac chambers, as well as intravascular fat in organs, especially the liver.   This fat was unlikely to be embolic, but must have precipitated from the blood in situ. The autopsy suggested that rapid bubble formation in the blood denatured the lipoprotein complexes, rendering the lipids insoluble.  The blood of the three divers left intact inside the chambers likely boiled instantly, stopping their circulation.  The fourth diver was dismembered and mutilated by the blast forcing him out through the partially blocked doorway and died instantly.

Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the crescent-shaped opening measuring 60 centimetres (24 in) long created by the jammed interior trunk door. With the escaping air and pressure, it included bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which resulted in fragmentation of his body, followed by expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door. 

Picture of dude that went through the door, don't click if weak stomach. (https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f237/581590d1415139828-pictures-byford-dolphin-diving-bell-accident-byforddolphindeathpicture.jpg)

:heckno:

[Traum]

The results were pretty fucking gruesome:



Picture of dude that went through the door, don't click if weak stomach. (https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f237/581590d1415139828-pictures-byford-dolphin-diving-bell-accident-byforddolphindeathpicture.jpg)

:heckno:
That is way more intact than I would have expected...
:heckno:

[StylinRed]

Just saw a report about the 19yr old, his family said he was frightened to death and didnt want to go on the trip, but because it was a father's day event he felt compelled to join his dad, his mother and sister has been at the launch site (in nova scotia?) since awaiting news

[SkinnyPupp]

so eerie i was just watching a fictional movie on netflix about how to get extra oxygen with an unexpected passenger in space the day before this incidient

then yesterday just before news broke it imploded i was watching youtube about pagani's titanium infused in CF

was this a similar construction or the CF and titanium were separate layers?
I think the main body was CF while the end caps were titanium. That may have been a weak point as well, once the CF started failing. Both materials probably react to pressure cycles differently, creating a weak point in the bond between them.

[EvoFire]

I don't remember if it was here, or somewhere else that I read. It's harder going down deep than going to space as the pressure difference is immense. It's easier to maintain inner pressure than to resist the immense outer pressure.

And agree on them not testing the life of the sub. As the counter increased, the chance of destruction increased as the material fatigued. With my ignorance of materials science I don't know if CF is the right material for this use.

[MarkyMark]

As James Cameron said in his video, he's gone 3 times deeper than the Titanic before so there's really no excuse for a failure if you actually did all your homework and designed it properly.

[EvoFire]

It's like me cutting a piece of rubber to make my own BPV gasket, but with much worst consequences than losing some boost.

[twitchyzero]

I think the main body was CF while the end caps were titanium

even as a noob with a very basic material science understanding, taking composite to thousands of psi repeatedly without testing :heckno:

[N.V.M.]

As James Cameron said in his video, he's gone 3 times deeper than the Titanic before so there's really no excuse for a failure if you actually did all your homework and designed it properly.

Cameron also said why the fuck were they looking all over the place for it? it was exactly where it was supposed to be(straight down from where it launched)

[Manic!]

https://www.insider.com/oceangate-ceo-said-titan-made-old-material-bought-boeing-report-2023-6?amp

OceanGate CEO once said Titan sub's hull was made with carbon fiber from Boeing that was past its airplane shelf life, would-be passenger says


Seemed like the guy was trying to cut costs wherever he could.

[MarkyMark]

I'm kind of surprised the CEO got on this thing knowing the cost saving measures they took. It sucks people died but at least the guy responsible was on board and not doing some press conference trying to pass the blame on someone else.

[twitchyzero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZTE6Wetty0

damn $100k discount for last min seats and he flew out to recruit poor saps who will fall for his experiments

[Great68]

I'm kind of surprised the CEO got on this thing knowing the cost saving measures they took. It sucks people died but at least the guy responsible was on board and not doing some press conference trying to pass the blame on someone else.

The CEO was the one drinking the most of his own kool-aid

[Qmx323]

Heres a quote from him.

"You know, at some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules."

:accepted:

[punkwax]

It also may have been a way to convince rich people to help the company rake in $1M per trip. I suspect that the CEO’s willingness to make the journey might put people’s minds at ease.

“If he’s going it’s gotta be safe.”

[underscore]

The stupidity of media asking if the bodies will be recovered hurts my brain. At that depth and pressure (approx 6000psi) as soon as the hull was compromised air didn't leak out all that pressure shot in. All the air and everything organic inside the sub was crushed down to a tiny point so instantaneously that the friction of the molecules under compression ignited them and caused an explosion. In automotive terms they had about 25x the compression exerted on them as your average turbo diesel engine. Their bodies ceased to exist in a matter of milliseconds.

"It's one of those 'you stop being biology and start being physics' things"

[freakshow]

even as a noob with a very basic material science understanding, taking composite to thousands of psi repeatedly without testing :heckno:
I'm not defending the guy or sub, obviously it was sub par. but i never hear anyone talk about the fact that it dove to the titantic ~10 times prior to the last one.

[Badhobz]

well thats kinda like you driving your SUPER BEAUTIFUL AND CLASSY NSX around richmond. by all logical measures you should have been killed 10x over and your nsx turned into coke cans, but here you are.

[sonick]

I'm not defending the guy or sub, obviously it was sub par. but i never hear anyone talk about the fact that it dove to the titantic ~10 times prior to the last one.

I see what you did there

[lowside67]

even as a noob with a very basic material science understanding, taking composite to thousands of psi repeatedly without testing :heckno:
I'm not defending the guy or sub, obviously it was sub par. but i never hear anyone talk about the fact that it dove to the titantic ~10 times prior to the last one.
That is the point of the word repeatedly in the post you quoted.

The fact it went to the Titanic 10 times is essentially why it failed the 11th time - every time you go down it basically flexes the assembly which weakens it; this time it presumably developed a small crack which explosively expanded resulting in the decompression.

-Mark

[Great68]

Some Titan debris was pulled up today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuPNh6NBhQM

Looks like the titanium end caps separated from the interface ring (the part that is glued/bonded to the carbon fibre hull). Can't see any carbon fiber from the still attached to that interface ring, must have absolutely shattered into a million shards.