[Badhobz]

Jesus christ, i love this thing. id buy one in a heartbeat

https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/webp/2023/10/lexus-lm-1024x576.webp
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/webp/2023/10/2024-Lexus-LM-42.webp
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/webp/2023/10/2024-Lexus-LM-62.webp
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/10/2024-lexus-lm-350h-hits-europe-and-is-priced-from-89995-in-the-uk/

[pastarocket]

I think that Toyota/Lexus don't sell the LM or the Alphard in North America because there is not enough customer demand for this type of vehicle. They won't make the profit to justify selling this type of vehicle in Canada or the U.S.

Americans and Canadians drive SUVs if they need a vehicle for more passengers or extra storage.

Why spend so much money on an LM or Alphard that can be seen as a overpriced minivan when you can buy an SUV?

I think that in North America, the biggest perception of these mini vans are that their styling looks too basic as an everyday vehicle.

[jcmaz]

Doesn't pass crash regulations. The front overhang is quite short and in an event of a frontal impact, the engine/tranny will most likely hit the driver.

Also, the rear bumper might not have a proper crash bar either. That's usually how JDM cars get away with length limitations

[Badhobz]

i still dont understand it, the engineering is already DONE as they are selling this thing in the EU now. The EURO crash certifications are higher standards than north american ones, so if it passes euro tests, it'll pass north american ones too.

Yeah they gotta pay some $$$ to do the certs here, but id still think it would make more sense to do that than say put out a crazy ass niche GT car like my ratrolla and only sell like 1500 units a year GLOBALLY.

Id pick one up, and im sure a lot of people locally here would as well.

[donk.]

Pre order the new century, same price too

But your gonna need a butler to drive you around

[trollface]

Front looks like asssss

[Qmx323]

This thing is a potential brothel on wheels!

[radeonboy]

Those Alphards / Vellfires aren't the fun to drive around as everyday vehicles - they're really best enjoyed in the second row seats. I think they're also too small on our roads - the OG Alphards looked big in a tight city like Hong Kong, but they're like a 3/4-sized minivan next to other cars here.


This thing is a potential brothel on wheels!

Reminds me of the time I pulled up to next to one in HK and realized there were two people going at it inside :lol

[Badhobz]

to be honest thats the only reason i like boxy / van shaped cars

Nissan cube : HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!
VW Sportwagen: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!
This thing: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!

[jcmaz]

to be honest thats the only reason i like boxy / van shaped cars

Nissan cube : HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!
VW Sportwagen: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!
This thing: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!

Ratrolla: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!

[roastpuff]

Ratrolla: HEY I CAN FUCK INSIDE IT!

No way, you'd need chiro after trying that in the Ratrolla.

[Badhobz]

too bad nobody ever wants to be fucked in a nissan cube, or a vw sportwagen

MAYBE 3rd times the charm!?

[RabidRat]

I think that Toyota/Lexus don't sell the LM or the Alphard in North America because there is not enough customer demand for this type of vehicle. They won't make the profit to justify selling this type of vehicle in Canada or the U.S.

Americans and Canadians drive SUVs if they need a vehicle for more passengers or extra storage.

Why spend so much money on an LM or Alphard that can be seen as a overpriced minivan when you can buy an SUV?

I think that in North America, the biggest perception of these mini vans are that their styling looks too basic as an everyday vehicle.

Yeah it's a marketing / image thing for sure.

But these days all you need to do is throw on a lift, A/Ts, cladding, and boom, profits.

TRD Pro that shit!

[JDMDreams]

Just get a second Gen with the royal lounge, close enough :accepted:

https://picture1.goo-net.com/100/1002519/J/1002519A30211114W00133.jpg

[asian_XL]

99% of the time I drive the Alphard by myself. The boat eats 40 cents of gas per km lol

by the way, my Mazda5 is better place to fuck than the Alphard, those captain seats suck.

[JDMDreams]

What's wrong with the seats? I'm considering one right now.

[68style]

They're not good for fucking?

[Badhobz]

or their fucking good seats. either way, lots of fucking

[JDMDreams]

Looks like best angle for bj, not even long wheelbase sedans offer this much leg room.

[donk.]

The leg room isn't for the person sitting
It's for the person doing the sucking

[68style]

I like how donk ungendered the situation

[CivicBlues]

Love how every other thread now is about banging. A testament to how RS members all have healthy sex lives. Right? RIGHT??

[68style]

No such thing as too much of a good thing :megusta:

[JDMDreams]

RS members don't have a house to bang in or live at home with parents so we can only bang in the car:pokerface::lawl:

[Badhobz]

Love how every other thread now is about banging. A testament to how RS members all have healthy sex lives. Right? RIGHT??

we might have all physically gotten older, but inside we still the ricers that just talk shit and want to screw all day everyday:badpokerface:

[CivicBlues]

we might have all physically gotten older, but inside we still the ricers that just talk shit and want to screw all day everyday:badpokerface:

I'd rather be ya R-I-C-E-R (I'd rather be yo' ricer)
So we can jerk off and talk shit all day
It don't matter if you lonely baby, you need a chud in your life
These tuners ain't loving you right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCdTgRhXIHs

[RabidRat]

I like how donk ungendered the situation

Someone paid attention to their Inclusion and Diversity training!!

[Badhobz]

I went to check this bad boy out in Hong Kong. The price is utterly ridiculous at 2.26 million hkd (400k Canadian) but my god is it ever nice inside. At 6’2 the leg room isn’t quite enough to fully stretch out but anyone shorter you can lay the fuck down for sure.

If I were to sit up, I can probably fit 4 of those “chickens” from temple street in the back of this thing

https://i.postimg.cc/R0qQMwyW/IMG-9044.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SKZNkM8t/IMG-9053.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vBc8BZt8/IMG-9054.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cH2x8GFR/IMG-9065.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/B6KTF4qs/IMG-9045.jpg

[BIC_BAWS]

Iirc HK is 100% tax on cars. So it would actually be around 200K CAD

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[EvoFire]

That umbrella holder is ghetto. I'd expect it to be inside the door ala RR. Even Skoda has the umbrella holder in the door.

[Mikoyan]

That umbrella holder is ghetto. I'd expect it to be inside the door ala RR. Even Skoda has the umbrella holder in the door.

Ease of access for the plebe that'll be holding it for you as you get out?

Also, from a practical standpoint, wouldn't that let a wet umbrella drain better? I feel that the door holders would get mildewy sooner, and not dry out as quickly.

[radeonboy]

These have really gone up in price compared to the previous gen - the emperor suite was around 1.8-1.9M HKD IIRC.

When I'm in HK I mostly see LMs around the business district - the people I know stick to new Alphards / Vellfires for family duty plus a separate car (or cars) to drive on their own.

Iirc HK is 100% tax on cars. So it would actually be around 200K CAD

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It gets taxed at different brackets and maxes out at 132%.

I. Private cars

(a) on the first $150,000 46%
(b) on the next $150,000 86%
(c) on the next $200,000 115%
(d) on the remainder 132%

Source:
https://www.td.gov.hk/en/public_services/licences_and_permits/vehicle_first_registration/guidelines_for_importation_and_registration_of_mot/index.html

[bcrdukes]

Chump change for Badhobz lol

[prelude_prince]

Price is ridiculous in HK right now, maybe later when then have JDM "water goods" it will be different like the Alphard market

[JDMDreams]

What's the difference with the water stock? Isn't it still like 100% tax? Unless jdm MSRP is lower?

[prelude_prince]

What's the difference with the water stock? Isn't it still like 100% tax? Unless jdm MSRP is lower?

MSRP may be different, for instance, it still is cheaper buying water stock FL8 (and those people are driving them for like half a year now, vs the guys still waiting to pay for their FL8 here from the dealer). Also options.

Let's say you purchase a fully loaded car here in HK at 100k, and the total is 200k because tax is 100% on the final price of the car.

Or you buy a non-full loaded water stock car at 70k, get taxed 100% at 70k, buy options seperately for 30k, and install them. your total car price = 170k vs 200k buying the fullload from the dealer.

[JDMDreams]

Good to know thanks:ahwow:

[asian_XL]

there's already 30 to 40, 30 to LM350 conversion kit. Can't wait to see 30 to LM500h kit lol

[JDMDreams]

We can't get 30 here yet :QQ: still waiting for the 20 to trickle in

[Badhobz]

i cant wait till the 30's are here (2015 was the earliest one, so 2030 is the earliest we can get them). The 20's arent bad but it looks like my royal lounge was only up to 2011 so its hard to find.

[Dbone]

What's 'water stock'?

Is that like grey market or something?

[EvoFire]

Yeah they mean gray market. Water stock is the canto street slang for it.

[asian_XL]

why don't you get the LHD Alphard 30s from China, does it fall into the 15yrs rule?

3.5L is gas guzzler, 2.5L is slow, hybrid seems to be a better choice in Canada, but hard to find one in low milage.

I have driven Alphard since their 10s, it is a oversized Camry that carries 7 people, not sure what's so excited about owning one. Get Senna, same shit.

[JDMDreams]

It's the packaging and tech, sienna is like crap compared to Alphard. Jdm is leagues above usdm counter parts.

[Badhobz]

I didnt know we can import one from China..... ill have to take a looksy.

That royal lounge 2 seater option is so pimp, thats the only reason i want one. I dont care how it drives. Although Dukes did say that the veilfire lacked insulation and the road noise was quite significant, i wonder if thats the case with the alphard royal lounge too.

3.5 is the only one im willing to get because its the 2GR-FE. Easy to get parts and fix if needed.

[JDMDreams]

I think tw and Korea is also lhd.

[bcrdukes]

Re: Vellfire

A relative drove us from Hong Kong to Macau in their Vellfire. The road noise was quite loud the entire ride. Sure, you can drown it out by cranking the audio volume, but it wasn’t quiet by any means.

[asian_XL]

I didnt know we can import one from China..... ill have to take a looksy.

That royal lounge 2 seater option is so pimp, thats the only reason i want one. I dont care how it drives. Although Dukes did say that the veilfire lacked insulation and the road noise was quite significant, i wonder if thats the case with the alphard royal lounge too.

3.5 is the only one im willing to get because its the 2GR-FE. Easy to get parts and fix if needed.

You can get a regular Alphard, buy the LM350 kit, order a pair of Chinese custom made Royal lounge seats. I dont know, then hang a 50" TV BrokeBack

2.5 with CVT is butter smooth, 3.5 with 6spd is noisy, D4-S 8spd should be much better.

[JDMDreams]

How's the reliability of the cvt? It is still a 15 year old 2000s cvt. I never owned a cvt before. I prefer traditional trannys:joy:

[bcrdukes]

Toyota CVTs are generally reliable and aren’t known to fail. They’ve done a good job at optimizing CVTs to almost feel like an automatic. Nissan CVTs, though. :inout:

[asian_XL]

How's the reliability of the cvt? It is still a 15 year old 2000s cvt. I never owned a cvt before. I prefer traditional trannys:joy:

I have never owned a CVT before, but those Uber XL uses 2.5 and it's damn smooth. I dont get why the 3.5 used 6spd.

If I am not wrong, the newer CVT should have launch gear.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a19431445/toyota-cvt-with-1st-gear/

[JDMDreams]

I've only experienced it briefly in gs450h, ls600h, but those are different animals. I've had the most seat time in newer Corolla courtesy cars and they are ok. The engine is pretty loud and kind rubber bands with lag. But it's pretty cool to see it cruise at like 1500 rpm on the highway.

[haha13]

carwow reviewed the LM, I must say this is very nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIckTmvUNhE

[asian_XL]

I want a cybertruck more than this DansGame

[Badhobz]

^thats cuz you see these everyday. Us North American chumps don’t get this.

At 110k gbp that’s 200k Canadian. I’d still buy it.

[EvoFire]

^thats cuz you see these everyday. Us North American chumps don’t get this.

At 110k gbp that’s 200k Canadian. I’d still buy it.

I find usually GBP MSRP translates roughly back to USD, so that's probably around 130k CAD if they do bring it. It'll be rare if they do cause not many ppl will dish out 130k for a minivan.

[Badhobz]

130k ?!?!? Why not buy 2 ?!

[RabidRat]

130k ?!?!? Why not buy 2 ?!

Lol!

Not a week goes by that I don't kick myself for not doing whatever it is that Badhobz does for work. I apparently screwed up and am in the wrongest possible profession :D.

[Badhobz]

nah, im just a retard who keeps failing upwards. Ask my wife! she says i suck at everything

[asian_XL]

20 series Alphard should have LHD in Taiwan and China, and some RHD have already reached 15yrs. Could look it up as they are very cheap in Asia.

If you want VIP seats, alibaba has lot of replica LM seats and partition.

https://sun9-37.userapi.com/impf/c624419/v624419269/38e2e/zheENEtacsY.jpg?size=604x604&quality=96&sign=1d192c566212897833c72e93f629cd06&type=album
Custom VIP interior
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/the-hot-Alphard-and-Vellfire-change_1600768469844.html?spm=a2700.pcdrm.0.0.1fc5 bf6cbf6cRl

[underscore]

Alibaba isn't where I'd be buying equipment that affects crash safety lol.

[bcrdukes]

RevScene answer: "Just don't crash..." :derp:

:peek:

[JDMDreams]

"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."

Jeremy Clarkson :pokerface:

[asian_XL]

Alphard and Vellfire are known to flip over easily. My dad flipped one 10 yrs ago and got badly injured.

[Badhobz]

Really ?!? Holy shit. I always thought those jdm vans looked a bit too tall and tipsy. Especially that delica space van.

[Akinari]

Even in Japan, these cars are mainly driven by Northeast Chinese airport pickup drivers who camp in the fast lane doing 10 under the speed limit and pissing everyone off so...

I personally don't have any friends with families living in Japan who drive Alphards/Vellfires. They either just drive kei vans or Fit shuttles or whatever. They're mostly made to be driven around in, in luxury, not anything that is popular in North America.

[JDMDreams]

Just lower it and add some spacers, wider wheels

[JDMDreams]

Hory shet, I rub dis full rice, dat ktv interior:awwyeah:

https://youtu.be/X1K_fvu-wCo?si=kwNTGEsHITw1aDYe

[asian_XL]

Alphard and Vellfire are known to flip over easily. My dad flipped one 10 yrs ago and got badly injured.

https://www.facebook.com/100013448385448/videos/420673330461469/?idorvanity=4067372779966131&mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
This video is showing 55km/h, but my dad's accident was under 30km/h

[Badhobz]

Omg. What a fucking death trap. Thanks for posting that.

Now I don’t really want one anymore.

[bcrdukes]

I would happily die in one of these. Bring them, please.