What car would you buy your 17 y/o self? [Archive]

RabidRat

10-22-2023, 08:20 PM

You're 17 again and you're at the ICBC driver licensing center. You're finishing up your road test. The examiner has you reverse into a parking space. You're a little over the line. Shit. You look in their face. Did you fail? Can't tell. They get out. You get out. No words are exchanged. Silent walk in. They gesture to Window 9: "wait there."

A long time goes by. They're back. "You passed."

Fk yeah.

You exit, shiny green N in hand. There, right outside the door, is someone standing in your way. You go "who the heck are you?"

"I'm you. 20 years later."

"You look terrible."

"Fuck you. Here's the keys." They toss you keys. "Drive safe. Don't get us killed."

"Keys to what?" They disappear.

You hit the key fob. It's the car right in front of you. Holy shit. You break out in a grin.

-> What did you buy your 17 y/o self?

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Rules:

You have $20,000* of today's dollars to spend, on a period-correct car you're going to buy today, then send it back in time.
The car had to be available at the time. E.g. if it was 2002 when you were 17, then the car has to be a '03 model year, or older. We're not trying to fk up the timeline here.
You get the remaining cash in the trunk to pay for operating expenses.
Try BAT, for convenience.
One car. You can't split it up into multiple cars.
You can't just keep it for yourself, that's dickish.
You can't just invest the money for them. No.
If you already had a sweet ride back then, then screw you. But anyway, imagine you didn't.

*You got the money from a payout suing for slipping on hot coffee. Or something. Doesn't matter: didn't cost you anything.

RabidRat

10-22-2023, 08:35 PM

2004 Mazda RX8 GT 6MT w/ LSD

232hp; 9000rpm redline: good enough to have fun, not enough to get killed
4 doors, 4 seats for roadtrippability
Leather interior: treating myself to some early luxury

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1524577432b8d3ebf6DSC_0252.jpg?w=620&h=414&crop=1&resize=620%2C414

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/152424886908495d565eDSC_0235.jpg?w=620&h=414&crop=1&resize=620%2C414

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/IMG_3189.jpg?w=620&h=414&crop=1&resize=620%2C414

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/2004_mazda_rx-8_img_3300-5-95626.jpg?w=620&resize=620%2C413

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5FNjyaLfC8&t=224s

RabidRat

10-22-2023, 08:39 PM

Would have liked this when I was 17.. No idea if it (or any 2023 car) costs $20,000 though... Is there such a thing? Kia maybe?

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2021-ford-bronco-23l-black-diamond-123-1627680376.jpg

Sorry, instructions unclear. Edited OP. :D

SkinnyPupp

10-22-2023, 08:48 PM

In that case I'd send myself a CRX SiR CyberTop

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3729/8861921271_78334cb403_o.jpg

Traum

10-22-2023, 09:50 PM

SkinnyPupp

10-22-2023, 10:04 PM

^ That would be my second choice

red kryptonite

10-22-2023, 10:15 PM

easy! 2002 z3
imagine being 17 and having this

https://media.hagerty.com/media/wp-content/uploads/uscamediasite/images/story-images/2017/10/bmw_z3(18)20171012192425

https://media.hagerty.com/media/wp-content/uploads/uscamediasite/images/story-images/2017/10/bmw_z3(4)20171012192800

https://media.hagerty.com/media/wp-content/uploads/uscamediasite/images/story-images/2017/10/bmw_z3(5)20171012192830

teggy604

10-22-2023, 11:15 PM

2003 Lexus GS300 with a 2JZ-GTE swap and fully built.

EvoFire

10-22-2023, 11:34 PM

It would have been 2005. $20k ain't buying a new E46M3 though.

Though granted my driving skill back then, I would cease to exist with a E46M3. Probably wrap it around a tree somewhere a week after getting the car.

Realistically, probably a Matrix XRS.

Badhobz

10-23-2023, 03:55 AM

Easy for me. Sc300 or 400 with a stick shift. 1uz or 2jz, rwd, luxurious and stylish. Would probably get the 20 year old me crap load of ass

Of course that’s in hindsight.

The actual car I wanted when I was 20 was the 1998 240sx. I sat in it so many times when my folks brought the Sentra in for service. Really really loved the looks of that coupe. Didn’t care it could drift / drive. It was that sleek coupe profile that had me entranced.

RabidRat

10-23-2023, 04:24 AM

2003 Lexus GS300 with a 2JZ-GTE swap and fully built.

How come it's like every 1 in 5 of these has smashed inner tail lights? The little squircle pieces.

https://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.com/Media/18970/19960229/638181231970316016.jpg?auto_fix=false&quality=100&sharp_amount=false

Anyone else notice this or have I gone crazy?

BIC_BAWS

10-23-2023, 05:50 AM

Easy for me. Sc300 or 400 with a stick shift. 1uz or 2jz, rwd, luxurious and stylish. Would probably get the 20 year old me crap load of ass

Iirc the 300 you couldn't get in manual but you can the 400. But you can get both from Japan in manual.

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Badhobz

10-23-2023, 06:01 AM

Iirc the 300 you couldn't get in manual but you can the 400. But you can get both from Japan in manual.

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nah you can get it in manuel

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vAEGY5j/1995-lexus-sc-300

asian_XL

10-23-2023, 06:30 AM

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGELYmn_700bwp.webp

hud 91gt

10-23-2023, 07:30 AM

BRZ only because you said key fob.

Otherwise, a $400 car like I had. Lol

Traum

10-23-2023, 09:01 AM

2004 Mazda RX8 GT 6MT w/ LSD

I know the early model year RX8 are prone to the engine being flooded, and somehow I seem to think that the 2004 model year is still early enough to suffer from the problem. So maybe you don't want to setup your 17 yr old self to failure and repair bills? :badpokerface:

roastpuff

10-23-2023, 09:03 AM

02 RSX Type S. Easy choice. VTEC, reliable, hatch.

(Because I don't fit properly in an NB Miata)

68style

10-23-2023, 09:05 AM

underscore

10-23-2023, 09:10 AM

I'd most likely go for an AE86, possibly a modified MR-S or FC RX7. Something light, RWD and impractical. Along with a set of really good snow tires so I'd be less likely to crash it lol.

bcrdukes

10-23-2023, 10:39 AM

I have no regrets getting my MK1 MR2SC because otherwise I never would have rubbed gooey white stuff on my t-tops with 69style.

donk.

10-23-2023, 10:42 AM

S2000 was my dream car in highschool, e z 8k budget, blow the extra 12k on rims, rice, and subwoofers

tegra7

10-23-2023, 10:46 AM

DC2 GS-R

https://i.ibb.co/MP9ccyx/IMG-6533.png (https://ibb.co/zPNXXWT)

RabidRat

10-23-2023, 10:54 AM

I know the early model year RX8 are prone to the engine being flooded, and somehow I seem to think that the 2004 model year is still early enough to suffer from the problem. So maybe you don't want to setup your 17 yr old self to failure and repair bills? :badpokerface:

Oh shit. Good lookin' out.

My '86 MR2 used to flood because the coil pack wires were bad and I had intermittent spark. Funny that I set myself up for the same failure again.

Ok, highschool-me knew best. He can have the Celica GTS he always wanted then :D.

https://celicahobby.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/14909/filename/1870203774-g-games.jpg

pastarocket

10-23-2023, 10:56 AM

-would also buy an S2000.

-good specs for the car at that time as a 17 year old.

-reliable car.

-would have collector appeal now too given the small number of S2000s made.

radeonboy

10-23-2023, 11:31 AM

Traum

10-23-2023, 11:38 AM

I was a big fan of the NC Miata in my teenage years so I would've loved that at 17.

The excitement will quickly vaporize once I find out how expensive it is to stay on top of insurance, maintenance, and gas lol
I'm sure I've said this many times, but IMO, the NC Miata is the best bang for the buck Miata right now. It is faster and more sophisticated than the NA/NB, has tremendous aftermarket support just like the NA/NB, far more reliable than NA/NB bcos they are just much newer cars, and are nowhere nearly as prone to rust issues as NA/NB.

EvoFire

10-23-2023, 11:54 AM

I was a big fan of the NC Miata in my teenage years so I would've loved that at 17.

The excitement will quickly vaporize once I find out how expensive it is to stay on top of insurance, maintenance, and gas lol

The NC is actually relatively cheap on gas, low maintenance, and insurance wasn't expensive either. You could do a lot worse.

When the C63 V8 came out, I wanted one BAD. But I joked with my parents, even if some one GAVE me a C63 I wouldn't be able to afford to even drive it. It was something like 70l on gas for 280km range. It was ridiculously bad.

underscore

10-23-2023, 12:06 PM

-would have collector appeal now too given the small number of S2000s made.

Would an S2000 that was in the hands of a 17 year old back in the day still have any collector appeal now?

Hondaracer

10-23-2023, 12:39 PM

This one is so easy that I don't even need to think for more than a second:

EG Civic Si, in red, just like this:

https://wieck-honda-production.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/b3763928152a4af1bd127e1e3d2b4a719d187717/preview-928x522.jpg

But... I'm not so sure whether this tin can car can do the job of not getting me killed...

Hmm...

I had a red DX, great car:

https://i.imgur.com/fnpmP7b.jpg

There was a time when myself and 3 of my buddies all had EG’s:

https://i.imgur.com/MgEV3zx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Pfec9No.jpg

4th one was a turbo coupe I don’t have a picture of.

A buddy of mine also saved up all his Pennie’s and bought this EF to try and join the civic nation crew lol:

https://i.imgur.com/Nt00mHh.jpg

This thing had some fucking weird engine I can’t remember what it was.. it was a DOHC engine but like a prelude bottom with a GSR head or some Frankenstein BS the previous owner thought he wanted… my buddy -always- mis-shifted 2nd or 3rd so he eventually was shunned from the civic crew lol.

In terms of the original question I’ve got 2, I would have been 17 in 2003/2004

DA GSR, always loved that big wide mouth bumper the GSR had

https://i.imgur.com/j6ssufs.jpg

Or probably the top choice would be a 93 5.0 LX

https://i.imgur.com/5Ff4fDn.jpg

Those 5.0’s were a legitimately fast car for the time and still probably shit on a lot of modern cars today. A manual transmission and some street radials and you could get sideways just down gearing

Plentiful parts, cheap performance upgrades, big base to build on

radeonboy

10-23-2023, 12:47 PM

The NC is actually relatively cheap on gas, low maintenance, and insurance wasn't expensive either. You could do a lot worse.

When the C63 V8 came out, I wanted one BAD. But I joked with my parents, even if some one GAVE me a C63 I wouldn't be able to afford to even drive it. It was something like 70l on gas for 280km range. It was ridiculously bad.

I had no cash flow when I was 17 so any car given to me would've been useless without a separate allowance to cover operating costs. My parents didn't give me an allowance and I wasn't allowed to work, so even something simple like buying cafeteria food was not an option. I only got to enjoy food from the school store because I worked there as one of the managers lol

Qmx323

10-23-2023, 12:56 PM

Do we get to stick the remainder of the $$$ in the trunk to give back as well?

roastpuff

10-23-2023, 01:10 PM

People buying S2000s... you're managing to get them for under $20,000 of today's money? The rules say that you're buying the car in today's world and then sending it back in time.

If so I'd like to know where to find a S2000 for less than $20k please.

Manic!

10-23-2023, 01:45 PM

Civic EK hatch with an engine swap. Looking at todays prices one with a K swap may be hard to get.

After reading this post I did some googling and the article hit me right in the feels .
I think it looked better in blue.

https://stickydiljoe.com/2021/10/04/meguiars-portrait-of-an-icon-2020s-era-shoot-featuring-lj-garcias-feels-civic/

RabidRat

10-23-2023, 02:11 PM

I had no cash flow when I was 17 so any car given to me would've been useless without a separate allowance to cover operating costs. My parents didn't give me an allowance and I wasn't allowed to work, so even something simple like buying cafeteria food was not an option. I only got to enjoy food from the school store because I worked there as one of the managers lol

Do we get to stick the remainder of the $$$ in the trunk to give back as well?

Ok, ok, rules updated!! You get the rest of the cash in the trunk to pay for operating expenses! :p

The Producer

10-23-2023, 02:37 PM

i've already got it - just need the time machine to send it back.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52258744577_f30ca517cb_b.jpg

might leave a note w a few tips for 17 year old me in the glovebox too.

I own this car because this is as close as I'm ever going to get to a time machine. It does a pretty good job of making me feel 17 again everytime I drive it.

WAIT A SECOND. maybe I did send a car back to 17 year old me:

https://live.staticflickr.com/5137/5507471203_dedf8e71d7_b.jpg

jaaagman

10-23-2023, 04:55 PM

I would have said S2000, but there is no way to get one for $20k these days. I would probably send myself an early or late NC1 Miata or NA. If not a convertible, then I could buy a decent EP3 today, and put the rest in the trunk for whatever comes up.

Hondaracer

10-23-2023, 05:06 PM

Come on, there’s no saving the money. You get 20k and 1 car, let’s say max 5k of that can be used for mods

hud 91gt

10-23-2023, 06:03 PM

TII RX7 would be the illogical choice. MR2 with a v6 swap would be pretty killer too. E36 3 series really is a solid all around car too.

EF/EG civics are so solid though, and that intake noise!

Hondaracer

10-23-2023, 06:21 PM

I remember when I was about to buy my EG there was a purple FC RX7 for sale for a similar price.. damn was I tempted but I’m sure I made the right choice in the end lol

EvoFire

10-23-2023, 06:32 PM

TII RX7 would be the illogical choice. MR2 with a v6 swap would be pretty killer too. E36 3 series really is a solid all around car too.

EF/EG civics are so solid though, and that intake noise!

2GR would be available for some of us already at 17, so a 2GR SW would be a kick ass car. It'll probably kick your ass too :badpokerface:

roastpuff

10-23-2023, 06:47 PM

Even 17 year old you didn't fit??

You fit in the S2000 tho!!! Barely :D

I would have got myself a 1992 notchback 5.0 LX Mustang coupe... wanted one of those so bad with a Vortech Supercharger, 93 Cobra tail lights, Cobra R wheels and Borla exhaust on it... probably be dead now lol

Forgot to respond to this - I don't know about 17 yo me but it's the vertical not the horizontal that's the issue KEKW

I have a stupidly long torso/stubby legs and in a NB my forehead sticks out into the slipstream without either gangster leaning back or using lowering rails. Also I no fit in it with helmet when roof is up.

S2000 fits no problem either way.

pastarocket

10-23-2023, 07:54 PM

2008-2010 WRX STI

-also a car that I would pick:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231024/2da8016cbe1fbf818fc3480408516815.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231024/1d5678815781944fe3d9fee4ef586f66.jpg

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donk.

10-23-2023, 08:05 PM

People buying S2000s... you're managing to get them for under $20,000 of today's money? The rules say that you're buying the car in today's world and then sending it back in time.

Don't know about the other guys, but I can't read, or write with proper grammar sooooo.......

I'm sticking to my s2000 for 8k + rice mods :drunk:

dark0821

10-23-2023, 09:16 PM

fudgeeeeeee I woulda said R32... but ofc... 20K cant even get you into a GTS-T...

20K today....

17 yrs old.... hmmm......

A stupidly over priced Panda Corolla GT-S Hatch with watanabes... once again... early 2000's... Found out about Initial D back in... Grade 10? lolol...

lololol

A sensible choice that actually ticked all boxes would be a manual, convertible, 128i from 2004 to 2006 lolol, decently reliable...decent handling... decent on date nights...

Deepdown, we all know I am going to...get that Panda AE86, cassette to 3.5mm jack wire hooked up to my 512MB Ipod Shuffle with the full Eurobeat that I downloaded off using KaZaa

I can see it now... showing up to school and car meets...you bet I'm gonna have a stack of paper cups in my glove box... lolol (everytime I park the car... fill water), everytime I am about to drive, dump the water out the window...

17 yr old me was defintely all show and no go... lololol

https://i.imgur.com/LzRpUo8.jpg

RabidRat

10-23-2023, 09:38 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbjZbmRJmW4

bokch0y

10-24-2023, 05:31 AM

I'd buy my 17 yo self, the car I have now:

https://i.imgur.com/USvJ17h.jpg

Hondaracer

10-24-2023, 07:34 AM

A clown at our high school had one of those MR2’s with like a cherry bomb muffler and a front windshield banner “MR2 die for” uhg

underscore

10-24-2023, 09:27 AM

My brother had an AW11 with t tops as his first car, he bought it from someone down there around 2010? It was white with bronze wheels, I want to say Konig Hyperlites or something like that, MOMO Race wheel and some funky mini sunwoofer on the floor in front of the passenger seat.

The first time he let me drive it I went over some train tracks and the O2 sensor fell out because it was just held on with worm clamps.

Traum

10-24-2023, 10:12 AM

On second thought, a DB1 in white would also work very well for my 17 year old self. It would even be practical with 4 doors, and I liked it better than the 2 door hatch version.

A good friend in HS had that as his family car, although he used to drive it lots. We did a lot of stupid stuff in it, of course including speed runs on the UBC stretch of SW Marine Drive lol~

https://carsbase.com/photo/acura/acura-integra-mk103-pic61724.jpg
(I'm surprised I couldn't find a photo of an unmolested white DB1 at all...)

These cars were so much better built than the Nissan / Mazda / Ford crap that my dad bought, and at the time, I just couldn't understand why Dad didn't go with Honda / Acura products.

(Of course, now that I am in a similar position as he was in, I have a better understanding of the constraints he had to juggle...)

teggy604

10-24-2023, 10:55 AM

love the golden era Hondas.
4 door cheaper on insurance, and more stealth. Plus parents won't give you hell if they see you driving a family sedan. lol.

Badhobz

10-24-2023, 11:17 AM

Nc miata when you’re 17 ?!?!?? My man tits were sagging already by the time the NC was out.

I’d buy myself one of these pretty hookers from temple street in Hong Kong and send her back in time.

Dbone

10-24-2023, 11:22 AM

I bought this when I was 18. I have no idea how I didn't crash it. I came very close several times.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53283447600_e52c059814.jpg

I think I might buy the nicest E36 M3 I could for 20k and send that. I haven't looked lately.. can you still get E36s for under 20?

68style

10-24-2023, 11:24 AM

Yes... but super high mileage or questionable histories. Really you wouldn't want it any other way though... adventure time?

Qmx323

10-24-2023, 01:16 PM

Easy choice for 2007 high school me on 20K of today's money

2nd gen Lexus RX (2004-2009) preferably hybrid model so I can crush some environmentally conscious ass, so much room in the back

Although the today me might be a vastly different person...

Gerbs

10-24-2023, 01:21 PM

S2000 was my dream car in highschool, e z 8k budget, blow the extra 12k on rims, rice, and subwoofers

Same, a high KM or RHD S2000 for $20K and sending that back. That thing was so fun during uni, can't imagine having it in high school lol.

westopher

10-24-2023, 01:55 PM

Not sure what this cost in 2002, but I'd be buying this if it was 20k. I'm sure it was something close after the e46 m3 was just released.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48293494207_4ffd912115_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gzwMiR)

radeonboy

10-24-2023, 02:04 PM

Same, a high KM or RHD S2000 for $20K and sending that back. That thing was so fun during uni, can't imagine having it in high school lol.

If RHD cars counted then a self-imported RHD S2000 or ISF can work in my case if I can land it within $20k. It'd be illegal drive on the road though :alone:

Klondike

10-24-2023, 09:00 PM

I passed by a SAAB 900 convertible everyday on my way to school and thought it was the shit. (I guess it's period correct but the car was getting close to 20 years old by the time I was fawning over it)

https://i.imgur.com/nZ3lFxU.jpg

Rest of the money goes to restoration, BBS wheels and an Alpine deck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_54-lwVcdI

PDKGD3

10-24-2023, 09:16 PM

...and I'd do it again

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/344914109_621653336196510_4397639347312336096_n.pn g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=xOnb3HV1jYcAX84a2mN&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AfCYIhM_YN6rslHpxpWCjqAu_uuFtQoqK2FsH1FL_Prw Tg&oe=653E470F

twitchyzero

10-24-2023, 09:22 PM

definitely a 4dr so easier to skip class with friends

https://i.redd.it/6biy0coifqh71.jpg

if i wanted to flex though :ilied:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0909/4394/files/274624392_9db7bac614_c_2048x2048.jpg

68style

10-25-2023, 07:16 AM

Those years of the Mazda Protege in all its forms.. sedan... MP3/MPS... P5... they're so underappreciated. Just great driving cars. Miles ahead of anything else at the time, just never got much aftermarket support or tuner interest.

radeonboy

10-25-2023, 09:43 AM

^too bad those things rusted just by looking at them

GLOW

10-25-2023, 07:59 PM

I know the early model year RX8 are prone to the engine being flooded, and somehow I seem to think that the 2004 model year is still early enough to suffer from the problem. So maybe you don't want to setup your 17 yr old self to failure and repair bills? :badpokerface:

2006 to help curb engine flooding but i'd still be too scared #yolo :pokerface:
that or an MKII MR2

actually a GC8 impreza, never should have sold it, could have saved it when my kids hit 17 :okay:

whitev70r

10-25-2023, 08:24 PM

On second thought, a DB1 in white would also work very well for my 17 year old self. It would even be practical with 4 doors, and I liked it better than the 2 door hatch version.

I'm with you!

https://i.postimg.cc/4xpwKCR3/Integra.jpg

Would also love the following gen Integra 4 Dr GSR (with a JDM front of course)

https://www.eneos.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2000-Acura-Integra-GS-R-ITR-Rear-Wing-01.jpg

https://www.eneos.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2000-Acura-Integra-GS-R-JDM-Front-End-Conversion-01-2040x1020.jpg

red kryptonite

10-25-2023, 08:32 PM

definitely a 4dr so easier to skip class with friends
]

whoa, forgot all about these.
i still love that orange with gold pearl paint job and oem racing harts:alonehappy:

RabidRat

10-25-2023, 09:15 PM

punkwax

10-26-2023, 05:17 AM

Probably the same car I had at 17.. 92 GTI but I’d look for a clean 16V example. Same colour as well. Something like this:

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/f/9362948.jpg

Mine was a lemon and soured my taste for German vehicles. I’ve only owned Japanese cars since.

mb_

10-26-2023, 05:35 AM

Too bad ITRs are now $20k+ easily, they were like $15k when I was 17 :alone: :okay:

So I'll pick 8th gen Civic Si or Acura CSX Type S :D

bcrdukes

10-26-2023, 08:41 AM

Probably the same car I had at 17.. 92 GTI but I’d look for a clean 16V example. Same colour as well. Something like this:

Mine was a lemon and soured my taste for German vehicles. I’ve only owned Japanese cars since.

My dad's former boss' son was into VWs back in the day and had this exact GTI brand new as they did a lot of business with the old Wetmore Motors in West Van back when they were a VW dealer. This car was always a lemon and always failed and spent more time in the shop than on the road.

Despite this, my dad still ended up buying an 88 or 89 VW Cabriolet for my mom and it was equally as bad. That ruined my dad's taste for German cars as well, as it did for me.

Fast forward to my late 20s/early 30s, I ended up with two BMWs, two Porsches, a classic Alfa Romeo, and this Mini. They have their fair share of problems so I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. This only fueled my dad's disdain for European vehicles.

I went to test drive a 2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti the other day with my wife. I love the damn thing so much. But we both know it's a total POS. I want it. Not sure why my wife married me. Edit: A very wise and amazing member who posted in this thread shared a lot of great insight into how shitty Alfa Romeo is. :D

68style

10-26-2023, 08:57 AM

You told me the Alfa was straight trash!! Did not mention still wanting.

bcrdukes

10-26-2023, 09:07 AM

There's a laundry list of issues that impact the ability to even drive the car. We can discuss later when we meet after my HK trip. I still want one but will pine for it. :okay:

EvoFire

10-26-2023, 10:48 AM

^ I love the Giulia, it evokes so much more emotion compared to the similar vintage F30 3 series. The BMWs feel so business.

So now I need to put a coin into the box that James May had when he reviewed the Alfa.

radeonboy

10-26-2023, 10:55 AM

I went to test drive a 2023 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti the other day with my wife. I love the damn thing so much. But we both know it's a total POS. I want it. Not sure why my wife married me. Edit: A very wise and amazing member who posted in this thread shared a lot of great insight into how shitty Alfa Romeo is. :D

I found mostly good feedback regarding the reliability of the current Giulia TIs - the general public is scared of their reliability but owners seem have few to no issues with them. The Quad had a rough go for the first few MYs but 2020+ should be solid as well.

I recently booked a Giulia Ti for my LA trip next month - wanted to see for myself how good these cars actually are.

bcrdukes

10-26-2023, 11:00 AM

I hope you don't get stuck on the 10 Freeway and interchange with the 60, 101, and 110!

Post back with a review!

Badhobz

10-26-2023, 11:03 AM

I think that weirdo door placement (small opening for the Guilia) impacts us taller drivers.

tofu1413

10-26-2023, 02:10 PM

probably a swapped B series VTEC Honda or even K swapped car with AC.

Or give my 17YO self my current EL :lawl:

dark0821

10-26-2023, 03:55 PM

probably a swapped B series VTEC Honda or even K swapped car with AC.

Or give my 17YO self my current EL :lawl:

Stop joking Tofu, were you already in double digits by the time you hit 17 with car ownerships lolol

teggy604

10-26-2023, 08:39 PM

https://i.imgur.com/BWFRlkp.png

There! Spotted another with smashed inner tail lights!

I am not sure why they are smashed in now. Don't know what kids these days do with their cars lol.

EvoFire

10-26-2023, 09:15 PM

I don't think they are smashed, just faded.

tofu1413

10-27-2023, 08:30 AM

Stop joking Tofu, were you already in double digits by the time you hit 17 with car ownerships lolol

financially when i was 17, totally not possible.

unless i kept flipping CRX'es and Del Sols :lawl:

RabidRat

10-27-2023, 10:52 AM

I don't think they are smashed, just faded.

Huh. You right. I googled and it seems to be a thing with a model year range w/ those inner tail lights.

Koflach

10-27-2023, 12:59 PM

If I were to buy a new car for my 17 year old self it would be either a 1995 RX-7 or Supra. If it were a classic, probably a hemi cuda, mach1, or gt350.

Hondaracer

10-27-2023, 01:50 PM

None of those fit the criteria sonny

twitchyzero

10-27-2023, 02:24 PM

20k down payment, maybe

68style

10-27-2023, 02:25 PM

I mean, I can remember in the late 90's / early 2000's RX7's were around in the mid teens?

The other ones.. not so much lol

Hondaracer

10-27-2023, 02:56 PM

I don’t ever remember any FD’s being less than 15 or so and that was for bad examples

68style

10-27-2023, 03:20 PM

I remember being with a guy from Bellingham who was on RS and looking at a red one that was in good shape... 93 or 94? and he was buying it for $14800 up here to take it down there

Hondaracer

10-27-2023, 03:33 PM

Yea 15 was probably the line all time on those lol.. kinda weird one of the few that maintained its price over 3 decades. Not even the ITR can claim that. S2000 probably the only comparable at that price point

hud 91gt

10-28-2023, 06:34 AM

Even S2000’s hit the 10k mark and lower at one point.

underscore

10-28-2023, 11:13 AM

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing rougher/high mileage S2000s below 10 and similar R32 Skyline GTRs as low as 6k. I nearly bought one as a winter beater.

GIZZ

10-29-2023, 08:20 AM

Would be better for my 17yo self If I took 20yo cash back in time and bought a car then. Easier to fit in the time machine too. I would have told myself to keep all the cars I already had, wait a few years then put the money into stocks.

twitchyzero

10-29-2023, 03:09 PM

how many cars did a 17yo have? :ahwow:

GIZZ

10-29-2023, 03:32 PM

how many cars did a 17yo have? :ahwow:

1st car nothing special, '78 sapporo. Then a 3 1st gen celicas, also nothing special at the time, but we 22r swapped one. 3 Z cars. '82 toyota 4x4. '80 turbo cobra I spent all my money on, then a pair of turbo II's and a kawasaki. Then I decided to go back to high school.

jpark

10-29-2023, 09:00 PM

6spd MK5 GTI or a 8th gen civic si for me. Both zippy, not crazy fast, fwd, safe enough for a highschool kid.

Drooled over those 2 cars back in 06 when i first got my license.

coneZONE

10-30-2023, 08:36 PM

I just got my N in 2011 lol. 2nd Try, at Burnaby Lougheed ICBC. They had just phased out the black and green Ns for the super shiny small white and green ones.

I could’ve picked up one of those New Flyer D40 high floor coaches that TransLink retired after the olympics and scrapped them for $1000 apiece haha. The rest of it might not have been able to pay for the storage for the next decade though

At that age i wanted a nice 1991 Civic Si hatch (dunno why I wanted one that had factory DRLs, but I remember that was what i specifically wanted), then later i watched Initial D and wanted a Corolla hatch like everyone else.

Maybe not with the general consensus of sporty cars, but The top choice would be I give myself the $20000 to fix up our existing ‘85 Land Cruiser SWB haha
$15000 in 2011 then couldve gone a long way towards the repairs
(Hopefully with my new job now, i can hve more free time to work on it )

fliptuner

10-31-2023, 06:56 AM

teggy604

10-31-2023, 08:49 AM

Anybody take the road test with a Tesla? Do they allow you to one pedal drive? Lol

dark0821

10-31-2023, 11:23 AM

I think Tesla wasn't a thing when most of RS got their license lolol... even the original Roadster came out towards the end of my uni lolol

Mikoyan

10-31-2023, 01:16 PM

There were no N's when I got my license lol. You went in on your 16th birthday, did the written test, then 30 days later, took your road test and BAM, legal.

I found one of the old ICBC cardboard "Student Driver" signs in some boxes in storage a while back.

RabidRat

10-31-2023, 01:22 PM

Anybody take the road test with a Tesla? Do they allow you to one pedal drive? Lol

I remember doing my Class 5 with a manual car and it was way easier to maintain the speed limit because I just had to lift off for engine braking, and I could judge speed by the tone of the exhaust lol.

Except the examiner was like "uh yeah I could be failing you for coasting to a stop at red lights in neutral, but I can understand why it wouldn't be possible with a stick shift." So then challenge accepted, I started heel-toe double-clutch downshifting every gear from 5th to 1st at every subsequent red light & stop sign lolol. That bought me brownie points for other minor infractions they could've dinged me on.

BIC_BAWS

10-31-2023, 09:25 PM

I found what I would buy my 17 yo self.

2004 Volvo S60R - 13K (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/305829535575721)

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/397920263_3543510055904957_6819801572356762512_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p720x720&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=-Rx6MP3r8tcAX95KSJs&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AfD-y_uCl7L3PBd9cEjk4o089HtpY31pMw_gEvuq9QBQjg&oe=6546D5FD

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/397828176_3544164492506180_2672380811896344426_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p720x720&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=5DsRt4o2C3AAX-I_oga&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh2-1.fna&oh=00_AfCQqaKEHXWupNIDeLaymecXjaH3XhUoeDm4Yl-tnCMlPA&oe=654664CB

twitchyzero

10-31-2023, 10:22 PM

imagine working at a hs now and you hear out the window some punkass kid with a CL-S that has factory sc..frds however with leaf and rav4 phev 20k over msrp or latest escooter would probably laugh at grandpa style car

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg1TnI9X_jFW7WiSGmbanxgwil7dsYG dMk5A&usqp=CAU

but yeah all my peers jizzed themselves over hondas, wish there were more civic killers

JCW before it was a trim
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/606198e0df5a58288f3f733f/ac09e7c0-a139-4c08-95a7-3ebbd091d926/20191104_192828.jpg

https://www.hepcatradio.com/gabrielfiles/srt3.jpg

https://picolio.auto123.com/art-images/101762/2008-chevrolet-cobalt-ss-i05.jpg

base auto celica but with at least 8 trd stickers and WRC arch

https://visracing.com/images/M198721799.jpg

AstulzerRZD

11-01-2023, 08:40 AM

Car I had:
06 V6 Honda Accord
The one thing is.... mum DID ask why we weren't buying one of the BMWs lower on the list.
Honda had a E90 330i sport pack one parked next to the Accord listed for the same price... and the Accord was NOT cheap to maintain.

Cars I wish I had:
- B9 S4
- G37
- E39 M5
- 3G TL A-Spec

Cars I would've bought with a lot more hindsight and experience.
The convertible would've made it a far more social experience, capture excitement and adventure.
- JK Wrangler
- JCW Cooper / 500 Abarth Convertible, in Red
- E93 335i/M3
- Coyote Mustang in Grabber Blue
- S2000, in White

quasi

11-01-2023, 10:42 AM

There were no N's when I got my license lol. You went in on your 16th birthday, did the written test, then 30 days later, took your road test and BAM, legal.

Eclipse GSX
RX7 TII
Mazda 323 GTX
I-Mark RS

The good old days.

My mom had someone else take her test for her in 1970 before there was picture ID.