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: Taylor Swift - The Eras Tour - BC Place: Dec 6-8, 2024


PeanutButter
11-02-2023, 08:36 AM
https://www.ticketmaster.ca/taylor-swift-tickets/artist/1094215

Hold onto your hats. This is going to get crazy boys.

If you ever wanted a Golden Ticket, this one would be it.

68style
11-02-2023, 08:37 AM
I couldn't possibly be more sick of someone I don't even know than I am of Taylor Swift.

Hard pass, even if it was a money making opportunity lol

teggy604
11-02-2023, 08:56 AM
What a great way to milk the fans. Vancouver fans always wondered why she didn't announce Vancouver as one of her destinations early on. So the fans had to fly to Toronto or LA, or Seattle to see her. Now she coming to Vancouver lol.

murd0c
11-02-2023, 09:00 AM
I signed up just so I could hopefully make some money lmao

whitev70r
11-02-2023, 09:03 AM
Just watch the movie, cheaper, better camera angles, any ticket you can afford, you'd probably be watching her on the big screen anyhow.

Badhobz
11-02-2023, 09:50 AM
She’s hot. Her singing is whatever. Would pay to see her in a skanky outfit

Hondaracer
11-02-2023, 10:01 AM
There isn’t an act in history that could sell out 3 consecutive shows at BC place

Even the Beatles in their prime probably couldn’t have garnered that type of draw

PeanutButter
11-02-2023, 10:01 AM
What a great way to milk the fans. Vancouver fans always wondered why she didn't announce Vancouver as one of her destinations early on. So the fans had to fly to Toronto or LA, or Seattle to see her. Now she coming to Vancouver lol.

Do you honestly believe that was her intention? What would be the purpose of doing that? You think the only reason why she sold out her tour was because Canadians bought all the tickets to her shows?

I'm surprised she even wants to come to an arena as small as BC place... 50,000 is probably one of the smallest venus on her tour. She could easily fill 100,000 arenas in the states

The way I look at it she feels bad and she's doing her Canadian fans a favour. She's losing money coming to Canada. Three shows that's 150,000 less tickets she could sell if she just stayed in the states.

murd0c
11-02-2023, 10:15 AM
There isn’t an act in history that could sell out 3 consecutive shows at BC place

Even the Beatles in their prime probably couldn’t have garnered that type of draw

And she will sell out all 3 shows easy, people are going to be coming from around North America to see her now just local.

Bender Unit
11-02-2023, 10:19 AM
It will be Sold Out.
If you don't know Vancouver.

Scalpers will Sold Out all 3 Shows 100%

Gumby
11-02-2023, 11:58 AM
She’s hot. Her singing is whatever. Would pay to see her in a skanky outfit
You'd be surprised at how celebs look like without their stage makeup...

Edit: I do like tall women though :)

MG1
11-02-2023, 12:10 PM
She’s hot. Her singing is whatever. Would pay to see her in a skanky outfit

Really?

Not judging you, but she ain't all that pretty........... definitely not beautiful or stunning. Hot? That's debatable.

To each their own, I say.

I'm not a Swiftie by any means, but I just got back from Bellingham with a special edition 1989 Taylor's Version 2 LP set. Tangerine one. Only available at Target and sold only in the US. Extra bonus tracks from her "vault," included.

BTW, just messin' with ya, Kirkland.................

Manic!
11-02-2023, 12:25 PM
Ed Sheeran set the record with 65k at BC place. I think she will have no problem breaking that.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/over-65-000-fans-attend-ed-sheeran-concert-breaking-bc-place-attendance-record-1.6546801

Her tour has 90 semi trucks that go to each show loaded with equipment. She gave all her drivers a 100k bonus.

ImportPsycho
11-02-2023, 02:01 PM
BC Moms on social media screaming how expensive tickets are and they can't afford to send their kids...
jesus fking chri...... what ever happened to telling your kids to STFU, you get what you get you don't get upset...
parents these days....

Gumby
11-02-2023, 02:13 PM
BC Moms on social media screaming how expensive tickets are and they can't afford to send their kids...
jesus fking chri...... what ever happened to telling your kids to STFU, you get what you get you don't get upset...
parents these days....
No wonder that generation and the generations that follow are becoming more and more entitled...

Gerbs
11-02-2023, 02:35 PM
Everyone I know is prepped and ready to drop $400 - 600/ticket. No different than EDC / Coachella tixs.

Tapioca
11-02-2023, 03:07 PM
Everyone I know is prepped and ready to drop $400 - 600/ticket. No different than EDC / Coachella tixs.

Yep. People who think that these shows won't sell out underestimate Swift's popularity.

Sure, there are some parents who are complaining about ticket prices, but just as many well-to-do parents will be shelling out thousands of dollars to take their kids.

Hehe
11-02-2023, 03:26 PM
Wife got tix to the Toronto show and was going there to watch the show and visit friends.

I guess now the plan is try to get the Vancouver one and sell the TO show to fund the local show. :fuckthatshit:

SkinnyPupp
11-02-2023, 03:43 PM
There isn’t an act in history that could sell out 3 consecutive shows at BC place

Even the Beatles in their prime probably couldn’t have garnered that type of draw
She sold out 6 dates at Wembley Stadium... That's like half a million tickets

3 dates at BC Place will be easy

I have no idea about any of her music (I'm sure I've heard it on commercials and what not) but the whole spectacle of Taylor Swift has been.. fascinating? In an era where there's so many types of distraction/entertainment, people are going nuts for this pop star like we probably haven't seen since Michael Jackson. Only bigger (and bigger than the Beatles too).

MarkyMark
11-02-2023, 04:28 PM
People won't be able to afford their mortgage payments next year when they renew but they'll be going to see TayTay

PeanutButter
11-02-2023, 05:22 PM
People won't be able to afford their mortgage payments next year when they renew but they'll be going to see TayTay

Buddy in the group chat just told me he's living pay cheque to pay cheque right now.

His BMW lease is $700/month and he has about 15k of credit card debt. $2, 200 in rent.

He said he's waiting on an icbc settlement. He's one of the last few on the old rules. He said he's expecting $50k and once he gets that his life will be reset...

I have a strong feeling he's going to blow through that settlement within the year.

Just last month he bought $350 shoes... Knowing his situation now I'm just shaking my head at this past year of dumb shit he's been buying.

MG1
11-02-2023, 05:25 PM
She sold out 6 dates at Wembley Stadium... That's like half a million tickets

3 dates at BC Place will be easy

I have no idea about any of her music (I'm sure I've heard it on commercials and what not) but the whole spectacle of Taylor Swift has been.. fascinating? In an era where there's so many types of distraction/entertainment, people are going nuts for this pop star like we probably haven't seen since Michael Jackson. Only bigger (and bigger than the Beatles too).

I will never publicly say I'm a Swiftie, but she is popular for a reason. Writes and sings her own music and sings from the heart. She also works hard for the money (and fame). <---Donna Summer reference. Everything works for her. Her recent thing with the NFL player............... more inspiration for love and heartbreak songs.

Anyway, I like her music. And, like Kirkland alluded to, not bad on the eyes. Dare I say, girl next door look? Nah, that's stretching it.

unit
11-02-2023, 05:28 PM
Buddy in the group chat just told me he's living pay cheque to pay cheque right now.

His BMW lease is $700/month and he has about 15k of credit card debt. $2, 200 in rent.

He said he's waiting on an icbc settlement. He's one of the last few on the old rules. He said he's expecting $50k and once he gets that his life will be reset...

I have a strong feeling he's going to blow through that settlement within the year.

Just last month he bought $350 shoes... Knowing his situation now I'm just shaking my head at this past year of dumb shit he's been buying.

yeah that 50k wont save him lol

AzNightmare
11-02-2023, 05:55 PM
Just watch the movie, cheaper, better camera angles, any ticket you can afford, you'd probably be watching her on the big screen anyhow.

lol, that's kind of how I feel about any live event... Got me at cheaper and better camera angles.

Plus, I'm at that stage in my life where I enjoy being at home and hate standing beside strangers. Especially when the strangers are loud and excited..

Razor Ramon HG
11-02-2023, 06:04 PM
lol, that's kind of how I feel about any live event... Got me at cheaper and better camera angles.

Plus, I'm at that stage in my life where I enjoy being at home and hate standing beside strangers. Especially when the strangers are loud and excited..

I remember going to my first hockey game.

It was so hard to see what was going on and without any play-by-play it was hard to follow. For some reason I thought the commentary would be playing through the stadium speakers, lol.

But damn, when we scored a goal it was a feeling that you could never experience in front of your TV.

Hondaracer
11-02-2023, 06:08 PM
Half ass venues don’t do live events any justice, that’s why you see so much investment into NFL stadiums, Las Vegas sphere, etc. they are creating environments people want to go to

Even rogers arena has gotten quite a bit better in the last 10 years or so, and once they replace the seats etc. next year should be a big step up

There is no experience that’s equivalent to a big live sporting event

MG1
11-02-2023, 06:40 PM
Having said that, some performers prefer the opposite. Smaller venues to be more connected to the audience. To be fair, her type of concerts are a different ball of wax. It'd be good for her to, once in a while, perform in a small, less significant venues like the one here in the "village" of Vancouver.

underscore
11-02-2023, 06:47 PM
Her tour has 90 semi trucks that go to each show loaded with equipment. She gave all her drivers a 100k bonus.

How tf does one person have 90 trailers worth of gear for a show? Unless she has multiple setups that leapfrog each other like most performers do, and each location is using maybe 50-55.

MG1
11-02-2023, 06:54 PM
Trying to fathom 90 trailers heading to downtown. Border crossing............. Border Agent: So what are these for? Where are you going? How much cash do you have? Taylor Swift....... who's that?

All kidding aside. I'm sure they'll be rolling in at 3:00 am or something like that. With police escort and all. My limited entertainment budget will give me a shot at filming the trucks rolling in, jbol.


BTW, I'm not a Swiftie.

supafamous
11-02-2023, 07:14 PM
I will never publicly say I'm a Swiftie, but she is popular for a reason. Writes and sings her own music and sings from the heart. She also works hard for the money (and fame). <---Donna Summer reference. Everything works for her. Her recent thing with the NFL player............... more inspiration for love and heartbreak songs.

Anyway, I like her music. And, like Kirkland alluded to, not bad on the eyes. Dare I say, girl next door look? Nah, that's stretching it.

Her two best attributes are that she's an excellent song writer and she works her ass off. Is she just an ok-ish singer? Sure but, like you say, she works hard for the money. Her shows are over 3 hours long and she did one in the pouring rain (whereas Snoop Dogg gave me a 45 min show in Victoria). You'll get your $500 worth of live performance at her show.

Love her stance on politics too and despite the media playing up her romances to make her out to be a hoe she's a great role model for girls. She fights for LGBTQ rights when she's from a conservative home state knowing she's get pushback and even lose some fans.

I'd go see her live if I had the chance and I'd go see Adele and Beyonce live too, they're all great entertainers.

Manic!
11-02-2023, 07:30 PM
How tf does one person have 90 trailers worth of gear for a show? Unless she has multiple setups that leapfrog each other like most performers do, and each location is using maybe 50-55.

Rammstein had the same size setup.

With a 265-person crew and 90 trucks transporting 1,350 tons of production equipment across the continent, the band tours until the end of August, performing in sold-out stadiums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGuRKgvWQ4

Check out the cable setup. I believe the have there own power. Multiple generators.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/352495807238037

MG1
11-02-2023, 07:36 PM
I pray, in a secular way, that she doesn't end up like a lot of performers. Dead or assassinated, or drowning in drugs and whatnot. She seems to be very well balanced and down to earth. Fans and media need to give her space. She must be surrounded with decent people. Not like Elvis and whatshisnuts, Colonel Sanders. I'm glad she did the Taylor's Version thing. Took charge of her music. Fuck those leeches. I get good vibes from her. Not like Oprah or Tony Robbins, lol. Britney Spears............ nuff said.

kjlks
11-02-2023, 07:52 PM
I pray, in a secular way, that she doesn't end up like a lot of performers. Dead or assassinated, or drowning in drugs and whatnot. She seems to be very well balanced and down to earth. Fans and media need to give her space. She must be surrounded with decent people. Not like Elvis and whatshisnuts, Colonel Sanders. I'm glad she did the Taylor's Version thing. Took charge of her music. Fuck those leeches. I get good vibes from her. Not like Oprah or Tony Robbins, lol. Britney Spears............ nuff said.

totally not a Swiftie... right? ��

hud 91gt
11-02-2023, 08:24 PM
She’s smart, I’ll give her that. She will sell out, but you won’t find me within a cities reach. Wouldn’t dare be near those groupies. Lol!… and I’m with MG1 on the looks. Lol.

danned
11-02-2023, 09:40 PM
pay some money for this B to sing songs for you?

PeanutButter
11-02-2023, 10:15 PM
Legit, my mother in law ( big time C-Lai) called my wife and told her that she wanted Taylor Swift tickets and asked her to ask me to get her tickets.

She doesn't even know who taylor swift is or any of her songs, but her other C-Lai friends were talking about it and now my MIL wants tickets because of clout.

I told me wife that if I get tickets, i'm selling them to the highest bidder.

Badhobz
11-03-2023, 02:59 AM
Really?

Not judging you, but she ain't all that pretty........... definitely not beautiful or stunning. Hot? That's debatable.

To each their own, I say.

I'm not a Swiftie by any means, but I just got back from Bellingham with a special edition 1989 Taylor's Version 2 LP set. Tangerine one. Only available at Target and sold only in the US. Extra bonus tracks from her "vault," included.

BTW, just messin' with ya, Kirkland.................
I always thought she looked great. But I like her tear drops on my guitar MV look the best. The new tay tay gone a bit too trashy like Britney.

unit
11-03-2023, 06:25 AM
after this thread i listened to her latest album 'midnights' yesterday. it was just ok for me... there were a few tunes stuck in my head but overall i found it to be pretty average. maybe like 7/10 on the first listen.

PeanutButter
11-03-2023, 07:59 AM
after this thread i listened to her latest album 'midnights' yesterday. it was just ok for me... there were a few tunes stuck in my head but overall i found it to be pretty average. maybe like 7/10 on the first listen.

Yeah, I'm with you. I don't understand the hype with her, but there's no questioning her popularity.

And it's also interesting that some of you think she's HOT. I would say she's pretty average looking for a white girl and she doesn't have a nice rack or big booty or anything.

Her personality is a 10 though, at least from the interviews I have seen.

unit
11-03-2023, 08:08 AM
she's good looking but she mainly has a really good makeup artist. other than that she's pretty tall with long legs.

Tapioca
11-03-2023, 08:08 AM
I think the fact that Taylor doesn't rely on gimmicks, like fake boobs, butt lifts or overly done makeup, is a big part of her appeal. Her look is attainable for your typical basic suburban person. She also sings about relationships and drama, which of course strikes a chord.

underscore
11-03-2023, 08:35 AM
Rammstein had the same size setup.

With a 265-person crew and 90 trucks transporting 1,350 tons of production equipment across the continent, the band tours until the end of August, performing in sold-out stadiums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGuRKgvWQ4

Check out the cable setup. I believe the have there own power. Multiple generators.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/352495807238037

That's what I mean, Rammstein is 6 people worth of instruments (granted I don't know how many backing musicians Taylor Swift travels with) plus that massive stage, tons of props, and tons of pyro. Standing in front of it was pretty nuts. The central tower thing has an elevator in it too.

They had two copies of that stage that would leapfrog each other between venues because the setup takes so long. So it was 40 trucks per stage setup + 10 of instruments and stuff that was quick to go to every show. If she's using all 90 at each show that's an impressive amount of gear.

yray
11-03-2023, 08:53 AM
shes gonna be dolly parton 2.0

supafamous
11-03-2023, 09:34 AM
Look at this - a bunch of 40 something men talking about Taylor Swift. That's she's even on our radar as a thing to talk about speaks to how big a phenomenon she is. She's basically the modern day Beatles or Michael Jackson.

teggy604
11-03-2023, 09:46 AM
^^ lol. Hard to avoid, when you got media, and radio stations shoving her name down our throats. The other day I was listening to 94.5, they were playing one her songs, then I switch to 95.3 and they were playing her other songs. I just turned the radio off.

pastarocket
11-03-2023, 10:15 AM
^^ lol. Hard to avoid, when you got media, and radio stations shoving her name down our throats. The other day I was listening to 94.5, they were playing one her songs, then I switch to 95.3 and they were playing her other songs. I just turned the radio off.


The media exposure on Swift is magnified like 10X when she is dating that Kansas City Chiefs football player Travis Kelce.

I cannot imagine how much paparazzi are following them, hiding behind trees, bushes, just to take pictures of Taylor and Travis on dates haha.

Every time the NFL has Chiefs games broadcast on Sundays, if Taylor is at one of the Chiefs' home games to watch her man play ball, one of the camera operators pans the camera to get video of Taylor cheering on Travis in the player's suite hahaah.

The NFL is shoving Taylor down the throats of many football fans every time the Chiefs play a home game in my opinion.

I'm getting so sick of hearing celebrity hashtags for those two.

#Traylor?

Maybe #Traylor is appropriate if their relationship breaks up one day.

#Traylor becomes Trailer trash hahah. More inspiration for Swift to write another one of her heartbreak songs.

Travis Kelce might be an entire new album for Taylor one day. LUL

Manic!
11-03-2023, 03:08 PM
That's what I mean, Rammstein is 6 people worth of instruments (granted I don't know how many backing musicians Taylor Swift travels with) plus that massive stage, tons of props, and tons of pyro. Standing in front of it was pretty nuts. The central tower thing has an elevator in it too.

They had two copies of that stage that would leapfrog each other between venues because the setup takes so long. So it was 40 trucks per stage setup + 10 of instruments and stuff that was quick to go to every show. If she's using all 90 at each show that's an impressive amount of gear.

It's the massive stage, video wall lighting and audio that take up the space. The stage is a football field wide and mas a middle section the is a football field long. The floor of the stage is also a video wall. This video brakes down the stage and A/V system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qmqXbggxFY



Travis Kelce at a press conference today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BWUM8iyb4

murd0c
11-03-2023, 03:29 PM
I'm really curious how much tickets would sell for, if I some how score 2 x $500 tickets from ticket master how much profit could I make?

SkinnyPupp
11-03-2023, 04:29 PM
The media exposure on Swift is magnified like 10X when she is dating that Kansas City Chiefs football player Travis Kelce.

I cannot imagine how much paparazzi are following them, hiding behind trees, bushes, just to take pictures of Taylor and Travis on dates haha.

Every time the NFL has Chiefs games broadcast on Sundays, if Taylor is at one of the Chiefs' home games to watch her man play ball, one of the camera operators pans the camera to get video of Taylor cheering on Travis in the player's suite hahaah.

The NFL is shoving Taylor down the throats of many football fans every time the Chiefs play a home game in my opinion.

I'm getting so sick of hearing celebrity hashtags for those two.

#Traylor?

Maybe #Traylor is appropriate if their relationship breaks up one day.

#Traylor becomes Trailer trash hahah. More inspiration for Swift to write another one of her heartbreak songs.

Travis Kelce might be an entire new album for Taylor one day. LUL
That's when she got on my radar.. It seems so phony though, right before her tour lol

But whatever, celebs and athletes are going to have weird relationships, and many probably involve business transactions. Good for them, they both just made a lot of money by dating or whatever they're doing, and fans love them and they aren't harming anyone.

unit
11-03-2023, 04:29 PM
if they are $500 face value they are probably like right up front, so maybe x5 or x10?

most ppl are gonna get $100 tickets and scalp them for $400 or so im sure.

someone told me its a 1/400 chance to get presale, so i wouldnt hold my breath

Gumby
11-03-2023, 05:39 PM
I dunno, it feels scummy to buy tickets just to re-sell, but I gotta admit I’m tempted to do it… if I don’t do it, someone else will!

Gumby
11-03-2023, 05:44 PM
That's when she got on my radar.. It seems so phony though, right before her tour.
Her current tour started in March, and I think they started dating just a few weeks ago.

Gerbs
11-03-2023, 07:58 PM
I'm assuming starts at $300 nosebleeds upto 2K+ floor.

To be fair, Vancouver scalping is higher risk, last time UFC scalpers took a massive L, 10 - 25% of seats were empty.

winson604
11-03-2023, 08:07 PM
I'm assuming starts at $300 nosebleeds upto 2K+ floor.

To be fair, Vancouver scalping is higher risk, last time UFC scalpers took a massive L, 10 - 25% of seats were empty.

Yea but I don't think comparing UFC demographic tp Taylor Swift albeit this is 3 dates and in a stadium 3 times the size is even a close one imo. Dudes will just be like fuck it let's go back to buddies or a bar. The Taylor fans will go to great lengths to even just be outside the stadium let alone inside.

Gerbs
11-03-2023, 08:35 PM
Yea but I don't think comparing UFC demographic tp Taylor Swift albeit this is 3 dates and in a stadium 3 times the size is even a close one imo. Dudes will just be like fuck it let's go back to buddies or a bar. The Taylor fans will go to great lengths to even just be outside the stadium let alone inside.

You right, I always underestimate girl maths

SkinnyPupp
11-03-2023, 08:57 PM
Her current tour started in March, and I think they started dating just a few weeks ago.
She was at the games, not on tour. I assume it was between legs of the tour

Edit: Yup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eras_Tour#Tour_dates) American leg ended in August, international starts next week

68style
11-04-2023, 08:34 AM
^ Trav got between those legs

supafamous
11-04-2023, 09:05 AM
Her current tour started in March, and I think they started dating just a few weeks ago.

And I think the NFL benefitted more than she did from it. Millions of girls suddenly became interested in football while maybe hundreds of football fans became interested in Taylor. The NFL (and its network partners) couldn't stop talking about Taylor being at the game in a "Taylor's here and you should be too" kinda way.

unit
11-04-2023, 11:02 AM
i put myself on presale cause i want to help my friend and his kid, but if i get something other than just $100 nosebleeds then i'll be tempted to flip ngl, we'll see.

MarkyMark
11-04-2023, 11:51 AM
Everyone I know so far that has registered for tickets are doing it to flip them lol

This 67 year old guy at my work that didn't even know who she was registered when he found out he could make a buck off it

mikemhg
11-04-2023, 12:03 PM
^And this is why Vancouver is such a shitty city for concert experiences. I'm so sick of this hustle make money over everything culture in this damn city.

It's fucking jarring when it's cheaper to go to the same artist's concert in Seattle with an overnight hotel room then it is in this city for the ticket alone.

Fuck Vancouver and this scalping bullshit, one of the worst places in NA for this shit.

underscore
11-04-2023, 12:23 PM
And I think the NFL benefitted more than she did from it. Millions of girls suddenly became interested in football while maybe hundreds of football fans became interested in Taylor. The NFL (and its network partners) couldn't stop talking about Taylor being at the game in a "Taylor's here and you should be too" kinda way.

I know someone who already watched football but now in addition to watching her usual team she also watches Taylors boyfriends team. I think it's weird as hell to spend hours watching a musician you likes boyfriend play a game but that's just me.

BIC_BAWS
11-04-2023, 03:32 PM
I'm really curious how much tickets would sell for, if I some how score 2 x $500 tickets from ticket master how much profit could I make?

I bought 2 Coldplay tickets for $676.38 (after fees and taxes) from Ticketmaster. Sold it for $500 each and the payout amount is $928.80.

That said where the fuck is my money.

I originally bought it with the intent to go, but I fucked up my car at the track so I needed the money. If it didn't sell, I would have went. But it sold a few hours before the show. I was selling it to ppl on my social media/Track Chat at cost so I wasn't trying to scalp.

SkinnyPupp
11-04-2023, 04:11 PM
I know someone who already watched football but now in addition to watching her usual team she also watches Taylors boyfriends team. I think it's weird as hell to spend hours watching a musician you likes boyfriend play a game but that's just me.
I think it's fair to become a fan of a team or athlete for any reason imaginable. The easiest is "because they're in my city" but there could be an infinite number beyond that.

westopher
11-04-2023, 06:38 PM
^And this is why Vancouver is such a shitty city for concert experiences. I'm so sick of this hustle make money over everything culture in this damn city.

It's fucking jarring when it's cheaper to go to the same artist's concert in Seattle with an overnight hotel room then it is in this city for the ticket alone.

Fuck Vancouver and this scalping bullshit, one of the worst places in NA for this shit.
People fuckin scalp houses here. It's totally what makes this place shit. I'm glad the shows I go to for the most part don't make anyone enough money to bother.

underscore
11-04-2023, 06:53 PM
However bad the scalpers are the scammers are going to be even worse.

I think it's fair to become a fan of a team or athlete for any reason imaginable. The easiest is "because they're in my city" but there could be an infinite number beyond that.

Normally it's something related to the actual team that's playing though. I like Ryan Reynolds but I'm not about to go watch all the seasons of Gossip Girl because his wife is in it.

SkinnyPupp
11-04-2023, 07:30 PM
However bad the scalpers are the scammers are going to be even worse.



Normally it's something related to the actual team that's playing though. I like Ryan Reynolds but I'm not about to go watch all the seasons of Gossip Girl because his wife is in it.
Not to argue, but that would be a totally valid reason to watch it IMO

Gerbs
11-04-2023, 09:46 PM
I dunno, it feels scummy to buy tickets just to re-sell, but I gotta admit I’m tempted to do it… if I don’t do it, someone else will!

I bought tickets to an event this week and was going to ask who wanted to join me. I tested out ticketmasters resale feature and I accidentally insta-sold at my test price to see how it works.

Made $2K in profit but I rebought all the tickets at a different seat and I'm taking everyone for free now.

I bought 2 Coldplay tickets for $676.38 (after fees and taxes) from Ticketmaster. Sold it for $500 each and the payout amount is $928.80.

That said where the fuck is my money.

I originally bought it with the intent to go, but I fucked up my car at the track so I needed the money. If it didn't sell, I would have went. But it sold a few hours before the show. I was selling it to ppl on my social media/Track Chat at cost so I wasn't trying to scalp.

Lol I just paid ticketmaster $450 in fees in the span of 12 hours. Idk my payout is coming I'm waiting for it too. it said 5-7 business days.

supafamous
11-05-2023, 10:38 AM
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/11/05/dolphins-chiefs-travis-kelce-taylor-swift-jokes

Taylor's bf sure plays better when she comes to the game.

Of course I'd also do better work if Taylor was my girlfriend and was cheering me on.

Vansterdam
11-05-2023, 05:43 PM
buddy told me all 6 shows in Toronto is sold out and the cheapest resell ticket was like 2k.

in for resale lol

PeanutButter
11-06-2023, 08:59 AM
Just had a family gathering yesterday and my cousin who is the biggest swifty fan ever has two tickets to Toronto and two tickets to the Paris show.

The Toronto tickets she bought for around $100 (balcony) are $3,300 on stubhub right now.

She said she's not going to sell it. Her hubby wants her to sell it because they're going to Paris for the show, but she doesn't want to.. She's crazy.

She saw the movie, she's going to say taylor in Toronto, and Paris... It's a whole different level of crazy.

I told her to sell Toronto and then enjoy her time in Paris as it would be paid for. But, she won't do it.

Gerbs
11-06-2023, 08:59 AM
Skeptical if it's pushing @ $2K a ticket, maybe on TM, but local sales seems like no one is pushing it on FB groups.

mikemhg
11-06-2023, 11:39 AM
I just want to reiterate you scalpers can eat a fat dick, fuck you guys :lol

Buy a ticket if you only plan to go to the damn show.

Manic!
11-06-2023, 11:48 AM
Looks like there may be a hotel shortage. I wonder if there is a hotel room reselling website.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-vancouver-hotel-rooms-available-online-for-dates-of-taylor-swift-shows-1.6630544

Razor Ramon HG
11-06-2023, 12:15 PM
Looks like there may be a hotel shortage. I wonder if there is a hotel room reselling website.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/no-vancouver-hotel-rooms-available-online-for-dates-of-taylor-swift-shows-1.6630544

Lmao, just saw this on reddit

https://twitter.com/votebcunited/status/1720547516880478669

unit
11-06-2023, 12:29 PM
164k swifties... do they think everybody is from out of town and needs a hotel?

PeanutButter
11-06-2023, 01:21 PM
I just want to reiterate you scalpers can eat a fat dick, fuck you guys :lol

Buy a ticket if you only plan to go to the damn show.

Free Market Bro! Capitalism at its finest!

We were talking yesterday how only the person who bought the ticket can go to the show. If you can't make it, you have to sell it back to ticket master.

pastarocket
11-06-2023, 01:44 PM
Free Market Bro! Capitalism at its finest!

We were talking yesterday how only the person who bought the ticket can go to the show. If you can't make it, you have to sell it back to ticket master.

All this hustling for money, scalping Swifty tickets to make a quick buck just reinforces the term that I heard one day from an acquaintance:

"We live in B.C. B.C. should really stand for Bring Cash"

Some people are hustling in order to be able to live in the Lower Mainland?

SkinnyPupp
11-06-2023, 02:11 PM
Just had a family gathering yesterday and my cousin who is the biggest swifty fan ever has two tickets to Toronto and two tickets to the Paris show.

The Toronto tickets she bought for around $100 (balcony) are $3,300 on stubhub right now.

She said she's not going to sell it. Her hubby wants her to sell it because they're going to Paris for the show, but she doesn't want to.. She's crazy.

She saw the movie, she's going to say taylor in Toronto, and Paris... It's a whole different level of crazy.

I told her to sell Toronto and then enjoy her time in Paris as it would be paid for. But, she won't do it.
Going to two concerts on the same tour - the second one won't have the same feeling

PeanutButter
11-06-2023, 03:18 PM
Going to two concerts on the same tour - the second one won't have the same feeling

Yup, that point was brought up.

She said she has a song called, Paris, and they will be in Paris. It's going to be amazing.

mikemhg
11-07-2023, 05:25 PM
I think what grinds my gears the most is that most of the people I know that ticket scalp in this city don't even need the money.

I had brown buddies even back in the day that would literally buy swaths of tickets for every major concert in Vancouver simply to flip them at a profit, just for party/fun money. I always hated that. There are people who legitimately want to see a given artist, and who knows if it might be the only opportunity for them to see this person.

Who are you to think you're so important that you'd purchase 40-50 tickets to yourself to simply force a family or a fan to pay far more?

Hondaracer
11-07-2023, 05:28 PM
I think what grinds my gears the most is that most of the people I know that ticket scalp in this city don't even need the money.

I had brown buddies even back in the day that would literally buy swaths of tickets for every major concert in Vancouver simply to flip them at a profit, just for party/fun money. I always hated that. There are people who legitimately want to see a given artist, and who knows if it might be the only opportunity for them to see this person.

Who are you to think you're so important that you'd purchase 40-50 tickets to yourself to simply force a family or a fan to pay far more?

With that said Ticketmaster/live nation have created this type of hype machine which in turn creates the resale market

mikemhg
11-07-2023, 05:30 PM
With that said Ticketmaster/live nation have created this type of hype machine which in turn creates the resale market

For sure, but honestly this has been a unique problem in this city going back to the mid 2000s.

It's just gotten much worse.

68style
11-08-2023, 07:54 AM
Stupid as it sounds, it seemed a lot more fair way back when I was a kid and you'd go to the ticketmaster booth in the morning in the mall and lineup before the mall even opened and stand in line and buy a ticket to something lol

I mean even in that case... it's on my to go do the work to get my ticket... and if the scalpers scalp okay fine but at least they put some work in too showing up somewhere and lining up.

unit
11-08-2023, 08:24 AM
i don't have a major problem with people buying and reselling tickets but i do have a problem with bots and highly organized scalpers that probably hire others to run multiple accounts and buy as many tickets as possible. also i think being able to buy 8 tickets when most people cant even get 2 is kind of silly. i get it, people have 3-4-5 kids sometimes and everyone wants to go, but for every family that brings 8 people there are hundreds of bots that buy 8 tickets for resale. when tickets sell out in 5 seconds and the whole site crashes that's rarely organic.

MG1
11-08-2023, 08:50 AM
Marketing genius. She knows how to connect with her fans (girls, mainly). Sharing her life with them. Check out the video in the link.

https://www.target.com/p/taylor-swift-lover-target-exclusive-deluxe-version-3-cd/-/A-76577857#lnk=sametab

Razor Ramon HG
11-08-2023, 02:19 PM
So who got the code? Everyone I know is waitlisted, lol

murd0c
11-08-2023, 02:32 PM
I got wait listed and I'm not surprised at all lol

Gerbs
11-08-2023, 02:35 PM
Not a single person reported a W yet

Hondaracer
11-08-2023, 02:38 PM
Wait list..

HonestTea
11-08-2023, 03:16 PM
Waitlisted

donk.
11-08-2023, 03:37 PM
Wait, why the fuck is half of revscene on the wait list for Taylor Swift tickets.

Page 4 = scalper central (I approve)

Teriyaki
11-08-2023, 03:53 PM
No luck for myself, only on it as an extra lottery for friends that really would want to go.
Do know someone that was actually chosen so its not a complete scam :)

Manic!
11-08-2023, 04:55 PM
Can't beat the bots. It's in ticket masters interest to sell to scalpers so they they can make money reselling them.

danned
11-08-2023, 09:35 PM
what so good about this BS

N.V.M.
11-09-2023, 05:34 AM
Kiss was awesome!

carry on...

pastarocket
11-09-2023, 07:20 AM
Waitlisted too.

winson604
11-09-2023, 11:32 AM
Wait listed have yet to come across anyone who actually go through lol oh wells won't lose sleep over this I can't even name a single TS song it was purely for shits and giggles and maybe a chance to see a sceptical. I have gone to a concert at BC Place before but it was tame and I know won't come close to TS or even Ed S, or Coldplay when they came recently.

Vansterdam
11-09-2023, 12:41 PM
Waitlisted.

3 of my coworkers got the code and another managed to get row 1 floors and he's the biggest scalper I know lol

Gerbs
11-09-2023, 01:14 PM
Crazy, one friend got the code, sold it for $2.5K on FB. That was for an opportunity to que up to buy it. Prices for tickets were cheap though $135 > $438.

EDIT: Same dude is listing the code for $4K OBO lol

hotjoint
11-09-2023, 02:13 PM
Crazy, one friend got the code, sold it for $2.5K on FB. That was for an opportunity to que up to buy it. Prices for tickets were cheap though $135 > $438.

EDIT: Same dude is listing the code for $4K OBO lol

* Reminder: Onsale access codes can't be purchased or transferred. Your access code is unique to your individual account. Do not trust anyone trying to sell you a code.

Your friend giving their email and password to their account?

ImportPsycho
11-09-2023, 02:15 PM
Crazy, one friend got the code, sold it for $2.5K on FB. That was for an opportunity to que up to buy it. Prices for tickets were cheap though $135 > $438.

EDIT: Same dude is listing the code for $4K OBO lol

isn't the code link to the account?

anyway I was originally, put on waitlist but got text around 3pm that with code, first, I thought it was scam.
at the end got 3 tickets for $100 each, upper deck, it wouldn't let me buy only 2 tickets for some reason...
I thought it would be much more expensive from stories I've heard...
$300 for my two daughters seems reasonable.

Gumby
11-09-2023, 02:30 PM
isn't the code link to the account?

anyway I was originally, put on waitlist but got text around 3pm that with code, first, I thought it was scam.
at the end got 3 tickets for $100 each, upper deck, it wouldn't let me buy only 2 tickets for some reason...
I thought it would be much more expensive from stories I've heard...
$300 for my two daughters seems reasonable.
Good for you! Using the tickets as they were intended for. :)

I think the expensive stories we hear are from those that bought tickets from resellers.

Gerbs
11-09-2023, 02:32 PM
* Reminder: Onsale access codes can't be purchased or transferred. Your access code is unique to your individual account. Do not trust anyone trying to sell you a code.

Your friend giving their email and password to their account?

Correct, I do admit I also have multiple TM accounts lol, so not loyal to any account.

isn't the code link to the account?

anyway I was originally, put on waitlist but got text around 3pm that with code, first, I thought it was scam.
at the end got 3 tickets for $100 each, upper deck, it wouldn't let me buy only 2 tickets for some reason...
I thought it would be much more expensive from stories I've heard...
$300 for my two daughters seems reasonable.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOO, I'd also go as well.

unit
11-09-2023, 02:34 PM
wait so someone bought a code that doesnt even guarantee a ticket for 2.5k? that makes zero sense

Gerbs
11-09-2023, 02:39 PM
wait so someone bought a code that doesnt even guarantee a ticket for 2.5k? that makes zero sense

To my understanding they're hoping $2.5K for the op to buy 4x tickets at MSRP is cheaper than the $2-4K projected resell prices.

G
11-09-2023, 02:43 PM
You essentially register on TM to get a code, the code gives you access into the 'line up' but the spot in the lineup is entirely random.

For high end concerts like Taytay, people usually sell the code for a 'guaranteed' amount of money, in this case it was around $3000 ish per code. People usually sell the code if they don't want to risk attempting to buy, or don't have time or interest. I believe the code gives you eligibility to buy 4 tickets per code. So at $3,000 per code, the persons pretty much paying $750 ontop of the ticket price.

Yes you can't be 'purchased' or 'transferred' but what the procedure for selling is as follows:
1. You clear all payment information so that the account only has information such as your name, phone, and email.
2. They send you the money, and in turn, you send them your account information.
3. They will communicate and work with you to change the password so that they have access to the account during the sale, and then use your code to purchase the tickets.
4. Once the tickets are purchased, they will transfer the tickets out of their account into their own account.
5. After everything is transferred out, you can reset your password and regain access.

*Note: Usually you try to find reliable sources to sell to, such as friends or people with mutual friends as opposed to randoms. You also want to make sure you don't have any upcoming tickets on the account just in case (but you typically need to verify it via email/code to transfer)

Gerbs
11-09-2023, 02:55 PM
*Note: Usually you try to find reliable sources to sell to, such as friends or people with mutual friends as opposed to randoms. You also want to make sure you don't have any upcoming tickets on the account just in case (but you typically need to verify it via email/code to transfer)

Correct, this was sold in a Van sneakerhead group.

If it gets refunded/cancelled, you also get GG'd

mikemhg
11-09-2023, 05:21 PM
You guys that are buying tickets to actually go to the show, props to you, enjoy it with your kids.

The guys here scalping, go fuck yourselves. Greedy fucks.

GS8
11-09-2023, 05:54 PM
Anyone checking CL now?

My new fav song is 'Scalper's Delight'

donk.
11-09-2023, 06:18 PM
Anyone checking CL now?

My new fav song is 'Scalper's Delight'

At first I thought the resellers are retarded asking 5000$/ticket.

Then I found this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/154wbai/knowing_what_you_know_how_much_would_you_pay_for/

And there's people admitting, to paying 2-3k per ticket. That leaves thousands of people that would pay 4-5-6k per ticket. My god, I thought my track days were expensive.

Ps, my gfs brother got the pre ticket link, and my gf was losing her mind earlier that she is going to see her live in middle row.

SkinnyPupp
11-09-2023, 06:29 PM
At first I thought the resellers are retarded asking 5000$/ticket.

Then I found this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/154wbai/knowing_what_you_know_how_much_would_you_pay_for/

And there's people admitting, to paying 2-3k per ticket. That leaves thousands of people that would pay 4-5-6k per ticket. My god, I thought my track days were expensive.

Ps, my gfs brother got the pre ticket link, and my gf was losing her mind earlier that she is going to see her live in middle row.
$1000 for a front row ticket seems pretty reasonable actually, even for a decently casual fan. That must be quite an experience

pastarocket
11-15-2023, 02:36 PM
-got put on the Avion Rewards wait list.

RevYouUp
11-16-2023, 12:37 PM
My girlfriends sister just got through with the RBC waitlist. 4 tickets lower bowl.

Badhobz
11-16-2023, 01:24 PM
does she flap her vagina in your face or something? i dont get what the big hub bub is about here. i never understood these pop culture things. the more people want to go to something, the less im inclined to go along with.

Gerbs
11-16-2023, 02:49 PM
does she flap her vagina in your face or something? i dont get what the big hub bub is about here. i never understood these pop culture things. the more people want to go to something, the less im inclined to go along with.

My understanding is the more people want to go, the more other people who don't care want to go for the clout / IG Stories and content

Badhobz
11-16-2023, 04:50 PM
Fuck internet culture and fuck these faggots and their “clout”

I saw some bimbo live streaming her coffee order while standing in line. I wanted to slap the phone out of her hand and throw her into the bean grinder

jing
11-16-2023, 08:12 PM
Amongst family we had 2 of 5 accounts get selected for the codes. I sat back and watched the shitshow go down of all the women bickering with each other about who gets to go and who gets to sit where. Managed to get a set of upper bowl tickets in the regular lottery and another set in the lower bowl from the Avion sale today.

ImportPsycho
11-17-2023, 08:47 AM
I was listening to Z95 this morning and one of the caller mentioned she created 30+ burner TM accounts to get in the draw.
how is that possible? she has 30+ phone numbers or you can create multiple accounts with one phone number?

MG1
11-17-2023, 08:53 AM
I don't want to admit to how many Taylor Swift Concert Tickets I have now................














None. Haven't even tried. Wouldn't enjoy the concert. Not going to take opportunities away from some people who really want to go. Hate playing games of this kind. In the end, it's a money grab. Radio stations, promotional contests, etc.

Mikoyan
11-17-2023, 09:04 AM
I was listening to Z95 this morning and one of the caller mentioned she created 30+ burner TM accounts to get in the draw.
how is that possible? she has 30+ phone numbers or you can create multiple accounts with one phone number?

You can get a temp number via apps/websites.

We use one at work for trouble ticket follow ups for customers because we've had issues with customers thinking we're now their indentured servant for all their account needs.

Vansterdam
11-20-2023, 08:44 AM
starting to get sick how much I hear Taylor Swift getting played/mentioned on all the local radio stations here.

westopher
11-20-2023, 09:42 AM
I actually like some of her music and in beginning to lose my fuckin mind hearing about her shit. Not even her fault, but when some "news" outlet is like "TAYLOR SWIFT SEEN HOLDING HANDS WITH WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT GUYS NAME IS" it's like ok yeah so crazy. Spotted holding her boyfriends hand stop the fuckin presses.
It's like the Midwest version of keeping up with the kardashians like how can anyone give a fuck about this.

68style
11-20-2023, 11:17 AM
I can't even listen to the radio anymore because I'm so sick of hearing her name. I've been enjoying the little creaks and sounds and mechanical music of all my old cars much more.

Badhobz
11-20-2023, 12:05 PM
hey! it looks like tay tay killed some 23 year old girl

https://dailyhive.com/canada/taylor-swift-eras-tour-show-fan-dies

Hot way to go

wonder if tay tay had the air con blasting up her skirt the entire time

PeanutButter
11-20-2023, 01:52 PM
Does Taylor Swift use a ruler to write? How tf is her writing so straight.

And at first I thought you meant little tay killed someone...

Apparently they didn't allow water into the venue nor did they have free water stations.

PeanutButter
11-20-2023, 01:53 PM
Also, how do you come back and do a show when someone literally died the week before because of you. That's fucked.

whitev70r
11-20-2023, 02:07 PM
I read that she cancelled a few shows in Brazil and had to stay in Brazil a little bit longer ... most importantly, she won't be at the KC game tonight which means Philly will win.

Badhobz
11-20-2023, 02:25 PM
Hahahah win win ! Worth it

N.V.M.
11-20-2023, 03:54 PM
I don't even want to watch if she's not chest bumping with Brittany.

MG1
12-07-2023, 08:23 AM
Time’s Person of the Year for 2023.

https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/

Read the article and see why she’s on the cover of Time Magazine’s Person of the Year. Outstanding.

supafamous
12-07-2023, 09:25 AM
Time’s Person of the Year for 2023.

https://time.com/6342806/person-of-the-year-2023-taylor-swift/

Read the article and see why she’s on the cover of Time Magazine’s Person of the Year. Outstanding.

My 4 year old loves Taylor so therefore I listen to her a lot now (and I liked her music anyways) but I've taken to learning more about her and the more I read the more I'm impressed with her as a person, an artist, and a businesswoman.

68style
12-07-2023, 10:17 AM
It's not hard to be impressive when you can do anything you want anytime you want anywhere you want with any people you want.

MG1
12-07-2023, 10:46 AM
Im more impressed at her journey. I think she deserves everything she has accomplished. Having said that , it’s just a matter of time before something ends it all.

No signs of drugs, alcohol, or suicidal tendencies, or health issues, thank god. There’s always the possibility of a crazy fan.

Manic!
12-07-2023, 11:22 AM
It's not hard to be impressive when you can do anything you want anytime you want anywhere you want with any people you want.

That was not always the case. She also fought Scooter Braun, Kanye and Kim, Spotify, and the Republican party beating them all. That's no small feat.

She also has a massive set of balls.

This is her talking about republican marsha blackburn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhjSEkkZ2aA

68style
12-07-2023, 11:46 AM
Yah… cuz she’s famous and big/rich enough to be able to play hardball in her own industry.

She doesn’t need to worry about what she’s going to eat tomorrow no matter what happens.

Manic!
12-07-2023, 12:08 PM
Yah… cuz she’s famous and big/rich enough to be able to play hardball in her own industry.

She doesn’t need to worry about what she’s going to eat tomorrow no matter what happens.

Scooter Braun had way more pull than her when she fought him. He had a long list of celebs that supported him including Justin Beiber. Most of them have now dropped him because Taylor was right.

Ashley Graham—supermodel
Ariana Grande—singer and actor
Ava Max—singer-songwriter
Asher Roth—rapper
BabyJake—singer
Black Eyed Peas—band
Callista Clark—singer
Carly Rae Jepson—singer
Dan + Shay—pop duo
David Guetta—DJ
Demi Lovat—singer and actor
Eden—singer-songwriter
Gunner Gehl—singer-songwriter
Hilary Duff—actor and singer
Idina Menzel—actor and singer
J Balvin—singer
Jenna Raine—singer
Justin Bieber—singer
Kaliii—rapper
Kelly Rowland—singer and television personality
The Knocks—electronic duo
Lil Dicky—rapper
Paul Pogba—soccer player
PSY—singer
Push Baby—pop duo
Quavo—rapper
Social House—musical duo
The Spencer Lee band—pop band
Steve Angello—DJ
The Kid Laroi—rapper
The Scarlet Opera—rock band
Tori Kelly—singer-songwriter
The Wanted—pop band
Watt—singer and producer
YG—rapper

supafamous
12-07-2023, 12:19 PM
It's not hard to be impressive when you can do anything you want anytime you want anywhere you want with any people you want.

Money and power easily corrupts the best of us so while it makes some things easier (like you said, she doesn't worry about her next meal) it makes other things a LOT harder. She could easily choose to be an industry villain or choose to hide her politics to chase money (Michael Jordan said that even Republicans buy shoes) but she hasn't done any of that. Lots of billionaires are assholes (witness most owners of major sports teams) and she's definitely not one of them.

Considering she's spent more than half her life under the spotlight it's remarkable how grounded she is and how few legit beefs people can make about her. She's a great role model for my daughter.

68style
12-07-2023, 12:29 PM
I get it, I just don't think just choosing to be a nice person is something to be revered lol

and if it is.. it says something about our society.

Manic!
12-07-2023, 12:34 PM
I get it, I just don't think just choosing to be a nice person is something to be revered lol

and if it is.. it says something about our society.

Being nice is hard being an asshole makes you president.

For a whole year, she lived in another country in a rented house and stopped taking phone calls because 2 of the largest celebrities in the world went after her. Look where she is now and look where they are now.

It was a bleak moment. “You have a fully manufactured frame job, in an illegally recorded phone call, which Kim Kardashian edited and then put out to say to everyone that I was a liar,” she says. “That took me down psychologically to a place I’ve never been before. I moved to a foreign country. I didn’t leave a rental house for a year. I was afraid to get on phone calls. I pushed away most people in my life because I didn’t trust anyone anymore. I went down really, really hard.”

supafamous
12-07-2023, 12:59 PM
I get it, I just don't think just choosing to be a nice person is something to be revered lol

and if it is.. it says something about our society.

I don't think she's being revered for being nice - I admire her for her work ethic, her humility, her business smarts, her willingness to fight for herself, her musical talent, her strength, and number of other traits.

At her age (33) I was not even a sliver of what she is today.

Manic!
12-07-2023, 02:09 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/G2ZfQQKw/NAN.webp

This is the bullshit she deals with. All these right-wing idiots are after her

This is hilarious.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6DpqGTk/wutang.jpg

68style
12-07-2023, 03:15 PM
A perfect world would be nothing but Cybertrucks and Taylor Swifts :D

Hondaracer
12-07-2023, 03:20 PM
If you’re a billionaire you stepped on and likely crushed hundreds if not thousands of people to get there.

Because you’re nice on TV isn’t some sort of bar to look up to lol.. don’t let your kids idolize billionaire celebrities, the world is dumb enough as it is.

MarkyMark
12-07-2023, 03:47 PM
https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/taylor-swift-hugging-white-girl-afraid-to-touch-black-girl.jpg

Badhobz
12-07-2023, 03:52 PM
Hahahahaha ^^^^

GS8
12-07-2023, 04:05 PM
Eat the rich!

Except Taylor Swift. Yassss Queen! Slaaaayyyy

I guess if my dad (who's a Merrill Lynch stock broker worth $80million and comes from a long lineage of bank president generations) bought a 3% stake in a record company and signed me on, while paying for music lessons until I 'understood pop music', yeah I think I'd do pretty good too.

Not saying the money exclusively got me famous but you can't deny it helped. Just need to hire a good (and expensive) ghost team to make it seem like I accomplish everything on my own and therefore become the new moral compass for all humanity!

Manic!
12-07-2023, 04:08 PM
If you’re a billionaire you stepped on and likely crushed hundreds if not thousands of people to get there.

Because you’re nice on TV isn’t some sort of bar to look up to lol.. don’t let your kids idolize billionaire celebrities, the world is dumb enough as it is.

Didn't you support trump a billionaire celebrity who is also a crook who cheated on his wife's.

Taylor's a billionaire because millions of people go see her live and by her music and merch. Unlike trump she actually pays her employees and gives them massive bonuses.

Some people just can't stand to see a women shine.

supafamous
12-07-2023, 05:56 PM
If you’re a billionaire you stepped on and likely crushed hundreds if not thousands of people to get there.

Because you’re nice on TV isn’t some sort of bar to look up to lol.. don’t let your kids idolize billionaire celebrities, the world is dumb enough as it is.

Looking up to someone doesn't mean overlooking their warts, it just means there's something about them that you admire. I have private and public figures that I've grown up admiring and sometimes, idolizing - none of them were perfect people but all did something that made me want to be more like them whether it be my dad or Steve Jobs (I was a silent screaming inside fan girl when I stood in the lobby of Apple HQ when Steve swung by).

mikemhg
12-08-2023, 10:02 AM
Eat the rich!

Except Taylor Swift. Yassss Queen! Slaaaayyyy

I guess if my dad (who's a Merrill Lynch stock broker worth $80million and comes from a long lineage of bank president generations) bought a 3% stake in a record company and signed me on, while paying for music lessons until I 'understood pop music', yeah I think I'd do pretty good too.

Not saying the money exclusively got me famous but you can't deny it helped. Just need to hire a good (and expensive) ghost team to make it seem like I accomplish everything on my own and therefore become the new moral compass for all humanity!

I never knew she was a nepo baby, makes complete sense now.

I'll reiterate my original comments, Taylor Swift is EXTREMELY overrated. The machine behind her is immense.

68style
12-08-2023, 10:19 AM
But she's sooooooooo nice when she doesn't have to be :badpokerface:

MG1
03-15-2024, 06:17 PM
Bonus. My Disney+ subscription.................. subscribed to watch Marvel movies and such.

Okay, maybe I'm a Swiftie, after all............ Eras Tour streaming on Disney+

I can see why she is so popular. Songs and lyrics are straight forward and from her experiences. Not sure how much of the production is her, but it works.

Her voice has changed so much that when she sings her earlier songs they just sound a little off. It's like Shania singing her earlier songs. Anyway............ still good stuff.

Man, this girl is like the Energizer Bunny. No breaks. I'm tired just watching it.


All the eras are good, but my favourite is 1989. Shake it off............. damn.


Ok......... take it back. Just listening to the acoustic part of the concert. Acoustic upright piano, then jumps into an opening in the stage what looks like a river........... swims over (not really) and comes up in a wall of water to Midnights era.

Dancing on high heels the whole time. Costume change, mic change, everything is seamless. Tech crew only messed up once and it was a timing issue. Split second late with the CO2 jet machines. Maybe it was on purpose. In any case, lots of prep and planning went into this production. I think fans are definitely getting their money's worth.

Concert ends with Karma. So appropriate. Gotta love that wood block (clave) sound. Is it acoustic or digitized? Anyway...............

MG1
03-15-2024, 10:13 PM
Damn, Disney+ has "Taylor Swift Folklore - the long pond studio sessions" 1 hour and 46 minute concert.

"An intimate musical concert featuring Taylor Swift performing every song from Folklore." Looks like it all takes place in a recording studio - can it still be called a concert? Too tired. Will watch later...................

Badhobz
03-16-2024, 04:56 AM
Hey old man, you sure you’re just not watching this blonde bitch sing and dance in tight little outfits while you’re stroking your dragonballz ?

MG1
03-16-2024, 07:47 AM
Her music is really good. She's very talented and down to earth. C'mon, she grew up on a tree farm.

It's a success story she put together on her own. And, as far as I know, she's not a crackhead or into drugs. Good role model for young girls. I hope fame and fortune doesn't change her all too much.

Something positive in a sea of hate and hopelessness............ I believe that's her overall message.

As for me being old and enjoying her music and success............ btw, I don't find her attractive at all. Sorry to disappoint, badboy. god bless

mikemhg
03-16-2024, 09:22 AM
Hey old man, you sure you’re just not watching this blonde bitch sing and dance in tight little outfits while you’re stroking your dragonballz ?

LMAO!!!! :lol

supafamous
03-16-2024, 10:53 AM
Bonus. My Disney+ subscription.................. subscribed to watch Marvel movies and such.

Okay, maybe I'm a Swiftie, after all............ Eras Tour streaming on Disney+

All the eras are good, but my favourite is 1989. Shake it off............. damn.

Dancing on high heels the whole time. Costume change, mic change, everything is seamless. Tech crew only messed up once and it was a timing issue. Split second late with the CO2 jet machines. Maybe it was on purpose. In any case, lots of prep and planning went into this production. I think fans are definitely getting their money's worth.

Concert ends with Karma. So appropriate. Gotta love that wood block (clave) sound. Is it acoustic or digitized? Anyway...............

I watched a few minutes of it this morning with my daughter and noticed that the concert movie is 3.5 hours long. Damn, she works her ass off to give her fans a great time. She's in the Bruce Springsteen and Prince category of performer for sure.

Even if I didn't like her music (I like it), if I didn't find her attractive (She's a 9) or I didn't like her Liberal politics (I like it) I would still admire her for the work ethic.

68style
03-16-2024, 11:19 PM
It's a success story she put together on her own.

Errr... her dad is/was the vice president of the entirety of Merrill Lynch and bought the farm she grew up on, he also spent tonnes of money getting her training and a record deal, even moved the whole family to Nashville etc.

She did not by any means do any of this herself...

MG1
03-16-2024, 11:52 PM
I'm relieved. I'm not a Swiftie.................. did not know any of that.

Manic!
03-17-2024, 02:53 AM
Errr... her dad is/was the vice president of the entirety of Merrill Lynch and bought the farm she grew up on, he also spent tonnes of money getting her training and a record deal, even moved the whole family to Nashville etc.

She did not by any means do any of this herself...

No one makes it on there own. You don't think Connor Bedard had a ton of help from his parents. They spent an easy 6 figures on him.

MarkyMark
03-17-2024, 10:01 AM
No one makes it on there own. You don't think Connor Bedard had a ton of help from his parents. They spent an easy 6 figures on him.

No one? So every black athlete that made it to the NBA, NFL or MLB had parents who were rich?

westopher
03-17-2024, 11:02 AM
No one makes it on there own. You don't think Connor Bedard had a ton of help from his parents. They spent an easy 6 figures on him.

Comparing sports to music or film doesn't make sense. One is objective and one is subjective.
You can make money at something objective by being good at it.
You can make money at something subjective by being marketed correctly.

Manic!
03-17-2024, 04:08 PM
No one? So every black athlete that made it to the NBA, NFL or MLB had parents who were rich?

Tons of money is being spent on poor kids to become pro athletes.

The US has a very strong high school sports system. here is a list of the top 25 high school basketball teams. From the looks of it they all seem to be private schools/academy's. I can guarantee you most of the top players are on scholarship.

IMG academy in Miami is ranked #17.

IMG Academy president discusses school's future after $1.25B sale
IMG Academy, known for producing elite athletes, is now under new ownership. While announced this spring, the school's sale was made official earlier this month.



The company IMG changed it's name to Endevor. Endevor owns the UFC and WWE also reps a bunch of pro athletes. Kobe went to IMG for high school.

https://highschool.si.com/rankings/2024/02/05/top-25-national-high-school-boys-basketball-rankings-cooper-flagg-montverde-continue-reign-2-5-2024#gid=ci02d53ab3f00025fb&pid=20-harvard-westlake-studio-city-calif-26-3

Now after rule changes kids can make money of there name, image, and likeness (NIL) some high school kids are making big money.top 100 callage and hi

List of the top 100 collage and high school players making money of NIL.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/nil-100/


Here is a high school basketball league paying some kids 6 figures
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/09/overtime-elite-teenagers-making-money-to-play-high-school-basketball.html

Some goes for other sports like football. Here is a public high school in Texas that cost 200 mill to build and has a 72 million dollar stadium. My understanding is local tax dollars pay for it. So the richer areas get the better schools because they pay more in taxes. How much you want to get some poor black kids family is not going to end up moving into the neighbourhood. There instate rival has a 60 million dollar stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuEyJCxRUrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxV8aHRZAQ


Comparing sports to music or film doesn't make sense. One is objective and one is subjective.
You can make money at something objective by being good at it.
You can make money at something subjective by being marketed correctly.


I am willing to bet there are some kids who could have played on a 3rd or 4th line in the NHL but did not because there parents did not have the money.

Manic!
03-17-2024, 04:19 PM
They are also ranking elementary school kids now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jydGNB25nbk


This video is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGBsYRZ0jmU

Top 100 elementary school basketball players.

https://www.top25scouts.com/2030rankings

MarkyMark
03-17-2024, 04:31 PM
You get the scholarship because you're good, you don't get good because of the scholarship. At the end of the day in pro sports you have to perform. Daddy can throw all the money he wants for private trainers and whatnot, but if you're not good enough that's a wrap.

meme405
03-17-2024, 05:57 PM
No one? So every black athlete that made it to the NBA, NFL or MLB had parents who were rich?

Havent you watched the blind side? lol

Manic!
03-17-2024, 05:58 PM
:moderatorban:You get the scholarship because you're good, you don't get good because of the scholarship. At the end of the day in pro sports you have to perform. Daddy can throw all the money he wants for private trainers and whatnot, but if you're not good enough that's a wrap.

This is Nani aka Anjali World aka Anjali Ranadive. Her dad is a billionaire who owns the Sacramento Kings NBA team. Her dad spent big bucks on her music carrier that went nowhere. She did tracks with artists like French Montana and Tyga. One of the songs I like she butchered with a remake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zRj34VtF1k

Here she is performing at a Kings game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssvDK2fXdDE

She was also made GM of the team in 2023. She quit after a year and now runs a wold dog sanctuary.

You can't get as big as Taylor without talent.

MarkyMark
03-17-2024, 06:42 PM
My point is there are many cases of people making it without 6 figure help from their parents. Money will always give you a leg up in anything but it guarantees nothing. Being a pop star is a different animal entirely, Britney Spears didn't possess any true talents. She didn't write her own music, make up her own choreography, shit she usually sang over her recorded songs at her fucking concerts and she was still huge in her day.

westopher
03-17-2024, 06:50 PM
I am willing to bet there are some kids who could have played on a 3rd or 4th line in the NHL but did not because there parents did not have the money.
Absolutely, but money doesn't make a medium hockey player good.
Money spent on marketing can make a medium artist popular.