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Income Disparity Amoung Your Friends?
PeanutButter
12-19-2023, 02:19 PM
We're all around 40 now and i'm not sure if it's because of our age or because of covid, but it feels like there is a huge income disparity amoung my friends these days. Or maybe it was always there and I didn't realize it.
I just found out one of our really good friends doesn't hang out with us anymore because he can't afford to. It's not like we go to super extravagant dinners, but it would probably be like $40-$100 for the night out.
Another buddy apparently owes almost everyone in our group money (including me) to some degree or another. What's really bad about this friend is that he still spends money on stupid shit. His latest move was to ask my buddy to grab him a ticket to a show which was like $150 and he's not paying him back.
And now that I think of it, I look at my group and you can really see the income disparity, We're all highschool friends, so the demographic of the group is pretty diverse.
The more I think about it, the more sad I get. I know money isn't the be all end all, but in our city, money is a huge stress for so many people.
I'm not really sure what's to be done about this, but just curious if you guys are in a similar boat with your friends?
68style
12-19-2023, 02:30 PM
It depends on the people involved and their personality I think... my best friend lives in Calgary nowadays and he recently bought a 2022 GT3, he's way richer than me, sometimes he does come up with ideas we could meet up somewhere and I'm not poor, but it will be a bit extreme for me and I have to decline not because I can't afford it but because it just wouldn't be prudent for me to. We find other stuff to do.
Badhobz is way better off than me or most anyone I know, but he never makes anyone feel like it you know what I mean? I hang out with him I don't feel like he's flaunting and he likes luxury goods but he doesn't look down on anybody.
I'd say not paying people back for concert tickets and stuff isn't even a friends who has income disparity... that's just a bad friend and probably should be cut loose. I wouldn't stay friends with someone if they didn't pay me back for something like that and I don't think anyone I call a friend would do that in the first place.
I do have 1 friend in Los Angeles who is terrible with money and much older than me, he borrowed nearly $3,000 from me fairly recently and I knew when I loaned it to him that i would probably never see that money again... but in my heart I accepted it and he gave me a chance at a journalist job 20+ years ago when nobody else would, so I felt like I owed him at least the opportunity to get on his feet... to no one's surprise he hasn't and he's back asking people for $ again but it's really hard especially when people are older to break their habits or make them realize they can't keep doing things the same way and expect different results. I would say I am not anywhere near as close to him anymore and that I probably would hesitate to hang out with him again if I'm in Los Angeles just because of the awkwardness of his situation nowadays.
bcrdukes
12-19-2023, 02:46 PM
Good guy Badhobz
Secretly a millionaire but treats everyone like they're from the streets of East Van :lol
I don't know if this is a case of income disparity or if this friend of yours just makes questionable decisions with their money.
Hondaracer
12-19-2023, 02:52 PM
Peanut butters insecurities thread finally manifested
murd0c
12-19-2023, 02:55 PM
Most of my friends are much older then me (late 40's to mid 50) and all of them are well over with some being multi millionaires on top of the properties they own. We go to concerts together hit up a pub but most of the time it's just local house parties with a fire in the back yard.
I'm sure it has to do with all of them being white and living in Maple Ridge but it's nice that I can still do what I enjoy doing and not worry about how much money I have. Also I find the richer my friends are the less money they want to spend locally, they use the baller money on their month long vacations to Italy and around the world they go on once or twice a year.
Also sometimes you need to drop $400.00 on a concert ticket, I spent that on Chris Stapleton last time he was here floor front row and it was incredible. I'm not even a fan of country music lol
Razor Ramon HG
12-19-2023, 03:03 PM
Unless you know exactly how much your friends are making, they could just be bad with money, have other priorities instead of blowing $100 on a meal, or be a shitty friend in general.
mikemhg
12-19-2023, 03:10 PM
This forum makes me feel poor as fuck on a daily basis, whereas around my friends I don't really ever feel that way. We all do fairly decently, but not extravagantly.
The only other place that makes me feel as broke as RS does is at Burning Man in our camp full of trust fund/crypto/tech Taiwan/LA/San Fran Asians.
Don't let RS fuck with your mind PeanutButter, this place is a fishbowl of wealth :lol
CivicBlues
12-19-2023, 03:21 PM
I go on RS and I instantly feel like shit about my financial standing.
Then I go read reddit and I feel all better all of a sudden.
JDMDreams
12-19-2023, 03:24 PM
I think family backing is really starting to show, you can really tell by who's still renting, in a condo vs living in a detached. With the friends that I actually still hang out with you can see that we're all doing better, but I don't think anyone is self made multi million bad hobz rich yet. FeelsBadMan
Hondaracer
12-19-2023, 03:30 PM
The gap with almost every single person I know comes down to whether you own a home or not. Doesn’t matter if your first home has become your “forever” home, people who have a home they own, almost regardless of mortgage status are more free with their spending and habits.
Everyone else seems to be stuck in this weird limbo deciding whether they continue to rent or not.
I have a good friend who went to work in Alberta early on pre-2008 or so, he was making 100k a year filling up water coolers. Fast forward and he passed on numerous opportunities to buy detached homes in walnut grove, cloverdale, etc. now he’s got 500-700k in the bank but now can no longer afford the balance of a mortgage so he’s kinda fucked.. he’s generally an indecisive person but now it’s really are you gonna buy a townhome in the lower mainland or are you gonna move east and buy a house.
Timing is everything
EvoFire
12-19-2023, 03:34 PM
I don't really think about it because I'm probably the one that's the most broke with a giant ass mortgage. I have friends that make less but they don't have to think about paying a mortgage.
I don't see my old friends very much because we are at different life stages and that's the bigger road block than anything else. The friends we hang out with more often now all have kids around the same age as ours and they are more or less at the same financial state. We all have a house or duplex with a brutal mortgage, we all roughly make around the same and deal with the same BS.
Badhobz
12-19-2023, 03:42 PM
i always think its better to not let the economic situation dictate venues or hangouts. As long as everyone is comfortable i dont care if its just hanging out at a KFC parking lot (YOURE ALL DEAD!!!) or a Michelin crossclimate2 sponsored restaurant.
To be honest i rather prefer KFC as it just feels right and who doesnt love a greasy chicken leg (thrown at you).
PB if you got friends who arent that well off, you guys should think about their needs and maybe choose a place that's not 100 bucks a pop. I know its hard nowadays when you can easily break 50 bucks a person for just pho, but i think its the hanging out that matters and not so much the food/venue.
I had a great time on doing Tuesday movies for 8 bucks and sneaking in my own bubble tea / food. Will probably do that again this coming tuesday to go see that ferrari movie. Ya'll welcome to join as always.
Hondaracer
12-19-2023, 03:45 PM
It’s not like Vancouver has virtually any ultra high end restaurants, bars,etc. anyways. I guess that speaks to the economic climate though
You could go to the fanciest restaurant in Vancouver, have their biggest multi course meal, order a $400 bottle of wine, and still be under $1000 easy.
JDMDreams
12-19-2023, 03:46 PM
Why KFC? Why not churches, jolly bee pinoys or chicken world. But then you might get shot at at chicken world.
Razor Ramon HG
12-19-2023, 04:00 PM
I recently had this spicy chicken thigh from KFC. Not sure if it's new, but it's the first time I had legit juicy KFC in Vancouver that was on par with Churches.
:awwyeah:
JDMDreams
12-19-2023, 04:10 PM
KFC has always been dry and salty and not as crispy. Kinda like pizza hut so I've wondered how they are still around.
Great68
12-19-2023, 04:29 PM
Why does a hangout always need to involve some sort of expensive outing?
I invite my buddies to my house, they bring a case of beer. We drink the beer and shoot the shit in the back yard for several hours. That's all we need to do.
Maybe my parents rubbed off on me, because this is how they'd hang out with family/friends all while I was growing up. Whatever night either they were the guest, or they were the host. They'd bring a bottle, beer, and just blab away for hours, often solving the world's problems. If that family had kids, they'd drag us along so we could play too.
It was extremely rare that they'd ever make some sort of external activity with other people.
supafamous
12-19-2023, 04:55 PM
Hang out with the poors? No way man.
TypeRNammer
12-19-2023, 05:08 PM
To be honest i rather prefer KFC as it just feels right and who doesnt love a greasy chicken leg (thrown at you).
KFC?! :fuuuuu:
At least Churches Chicken, Mary Brown's, Jollibee!
Worse case scenario, Pop Eyes
bcrdukes
12-19-2023, 05:17 PM
You guys missed out on the KFC parking lot fight!
Badhobz
12-19-2023, 05:17 PM
im with you guys, but KFC is where i go to fight a bitch.... i still rather eat this garbage than say a 200 dinner at miku and pretend i know what o-toro is.
https://i.postimg.cc/4yBZG74m/IMG-0059.jpg
i saved the bucket from the last MEAT (Kunty Fight'n Chicken)
Hondaracer
12-19-2023, 05:30 PM
Why does a hangout always need to involve some sort of expensive outing?
I invite my buddies to my house, they bring a case of beer. We drink the beer and shoot the shit in the back yard for several hours. That's all we need to do.
Maybe my parents rubbed off on me, because this is how they'd hang out with family/friends all while I was growing up. Whatever night either they were the guest, or they were the host. They'd bring a bottle, beer, and just blab away for hours, often solving the world's problems. If that family had kids, they'd drag us along so we could play too.
It was extremely rare that they'd ever make some sort of external activity with other people.
I think for a lot of people, going out is exactly that, some kind of social status BS, even though it’s just literally throwing money down the toilet at a cactus etc.
I find generally friends and I will go out to a pub etc. just so we don’t have to think about making food etc. generally that leads to going back and drinking more at someone’s place anyways.
Also I find it’s just nice to go out. Wife and I had like a date day on Saturday, went to main did some shopping, had some drinks and lunch, ubered to Granville island to walk around check it out and have some more drinks and then went to a dinner reso at Peppinos. Nothing was crazy expensive but unfortunately in this economy shot adds up pretty quick. But it’s just nice to go out and do sonthing as well. Spend a lot of time at home during the week during winter etc. so gotta get out sometimes
whitev70r
12-19-2023, 05:32 PM
Almost always, the disparity comes as a result from going to $10 pp dinner vs. $100 pp dinners over time.
Badhobz
12-19-2023, 05:41 PM
So then just grab a 13 dollar dominos pizza and go to some dudes house. For guys it should be pretty easy. The challenge would be if your wives are involved. Then they don’t want to eat a trashy meal and hence the budget goes up.
I’ll eat McDoubles with trollface everyday
TypeRNammer
12-19-2023, 05:58 PM
Another buddy apparently owes almost everyone in our group money (including me) to some degree or another. What's really bad about this friend is that he still spends money on stupid shit. His latest move was to ask my buddy to grab him a ticket to a show which was like $150 and he's not paying him back.
I knew of someone that always asked to borrow money in my old circle of friends. Unfortunately I made a dumbass decision to actually lend it to him, this was back when I was in my very early 20's.
Weeks and months go by and it was tumbleweeds without a peep, then out of the blue he invites me to his birthday at a venue. It had a door cover charge. So when I showed up, I asked him to pay for it which he made a stink about it. Then I had to remind him and put him in his place that he still owed me money. Luckily I had a small hand of close friends that were there and I hung out with them for the rest of the night.
Never talked to him after and considered him a write off.
supafamous
12-19-2023, 06:13 PM
I can't believe you Richmond boys aren't getting your fried chicken from LA Chicken. The shame.
Badhobz
12-19-2023, 06:24 PM
Yeah I had a good buddy of mine ask to borrow like 75,000. He wanted it for a down payment on his house but I just didn’t feel right to lend him that kinda money. After that episode we drifted apart. A real shame, but honestly i just couldn’t imagine how he would have paid me back on a teachers salary
I still feel guilty today that I prioritized money over friendship but I think it was the right move. If he couldn’t pay it back or had issues it would have ruined the friendship too.
winson604
12-19-2023, 06:24 PM
I have many groups of friends but it's really the core 3 all of which are different.
1st group consists of 2 buddies who I've known since Grade 1 and rest once we started HS. Everyone in this group works but nobody has a significantly crazier job than the next. One guy in the group it's known his family has coin, owns a bunch of residential and commercial properties but since we've met him in HS he has never been defined by it nor has it been blatantly obvious his family has coin i.e. he isn't showing up to school in a Ferrari' and flaunting his shit. In this group nobody are cheap skates but things have always been handled as we all just pay our share. Even though almost everyone is Chinese a culture where it's very normal for somebody rich or not to just randomly pick up the tab it doesn't really happen in this group and it's all good nobody cares. Even though we could afford "nice" dinners our hangouts act out the same they did when we were 13. Grab bottles of whiskies, weed, and coke and go to a random park and have fun. We may start or end at somebodies house and a meal may just be fast food or some modest restaurant.
2nd group knows the first group and sometimes the 2 groups will join but most of the time this group operates separately. All Chinese group with a mix of CBCs and Hongers. It's just simply known the Hongers have money but none of them look down on the working class in the group. Hangouts are always the same, go to the usual hosts house and drinks bottles and bottles of whiskey while they cook or order some feast. We only go out for dinner when it's somebody's birthday. Pretty usual get a private room at a Chinese restaurant nothing even the poorest person in the group can't handle when you split the bill. Nobody gives a shit who has how much money and in this group the unwritten rule is if we need to talk about money then we can't be friends. The host for example is always the host and while other people do bring bottles he'll often just open what he has on average like $300 bottles up to $1000 and nothing needs to be said about hey I'll chip in this or that.
3rd group is with an older crowd. I'm 40 and the rest are in their 50's and rich. Not like flying private jets ballin but all own and can buy houses on the West side of Vancouver so rich enough. Dinners out and about at some fancy place the norm. Average bill $300-$500 a head (they usually pay). That said, these people don't look down on me and treat me like some charity case. They're respectful, don't flaunt their wealth in front of my face and are just genuinely good people.
Hondaracer
12-19-2023, 06:30 PM
Yeah I had a good buddy of mine ask to borrow like 75,000. He wanted it for a down payment on his house but I just didn’t feel right to lend him that kinda money. After that episode we drifted apart. A real shame, but honestly i just couldn’t imagine how he would have paid me back on a teachers salary
I still feel guilty today that I prioritized money over friendship but I think it was the right move. If he couldn’t pay it back or had issues it would have ruined the friendship too.
No one should be asking any “friend” to borrow money period imo.
Unless it’s the most dire of straights, it never ends positively. And frankly even just asking to borrow money feels yucky.
I’ve bought plane tickets for friends before so we could attend bachelor parties etc. because I knew they were hard up. But I made it blatantly clear up front, you don’t owe me anything, you never have to pay me back, and I’ll never say anything to anyone about this. Felt good helping out but I’d never just lend someone cash.
hud 91gt
12-19-2023, 06:36 PM
If a true friend was in need of money, I’d give it to him in my mind. If it gets returned it’s a bonus. I keep a small group of friends, but they are all good friends. If it came to a point they actually asked, they really do need it.
Going out with buds? Man, I don’t know the last time I went out with dudes where it was more then $20 for food. Shawarma, cinnamon buns, pizza. The only time I go to a real restaurant is with my wife. Lol.
bcrdukes
12-19-2023, 06:42 PM
Everyone who posts in this thread gets a thank!
winson604
12-19-2023, 06:44 PM
I think the last time me or any friend has outright asked to borrow money was back in Grade 8 or 9. Sometimes somebody will spot first but that isn't the same usually it just originates from a single person grabbing something first. I have a huge pet peeve with owing people money and will always pay my share back instantly if possible or asap. If the role was reversed I'll never ask or remind people hey you didn't pay your share back yet though it hasn't ever really been a problem. Yea some people are a little slower but it isn't due to them trying to dodge their share.
sonick
12-19-2023, 07:22 PM
I wouldn't sweat it much, so many discussions on here end up being a low key dick measuring contest between members anyway.
Just look at that How much does your Vacation cost thread. Quickly became comparing how many days vacation each person had, even though it didn't even ask about it in the first place.
Take it all with a grain of salt and enjoy. Preferably with a Domino's or Mcdouble.
EvoFire
12-19-2023, 07:59 PM
I don't think hanging out at a restaurant is all that anyways after covid. You aren't getting much chatting done if there's more than 8 ppl in a fancy restaurant, and which I agree sometimes ends up being a dick measuring contest. The cheaper the food the better the fun.
The good hang outs are actually heading to some one's house, do a BBQ or just late night grab some snacks and some beers or wine. I've covered the BBQ at our place for the last 2 years. If we went out it would cost us $100 for the two of us, that $100 is typically enough to cover BBQ food for at least 4-6 ppl and have ppl bring your own booze.
PeanutButter
12-19-2023, 08:05 PM
Well, the one friend who owes everyone money is a friend from grade school and we've all been friends for so long. So it feels difficult to just cut him out of our lives. He is incredibly loyal, but he's bad with money. I've learned that if you're going to lend someone money, don't expect it back from them.
I guess I feel a sense of guilt for some reason. Like, I'm living this perfect life. It's like what did I do to deserve the life I'm living? I have my own place, I have a beautiful family and a healthy relationship with my spouse, and I can go on multiple vacations a year and I religiously put money away for my retirement.
As time goes on, I have multiple friends who are going to be f*cked as they will likely still have debt, they'll have nothing saved, and when they're 70 years old, you can't live pay cheque to pay cheque because you likely can't work at the same level anymore.
PeanutButter
12-19-2023, 08:09 PM
I wouldn't sweat it much, so many discussions on here end up being a low key dick measuring contest between members anyway.
Just look at that How much does your Vacation cost thread. Quickly became comparing how many days vacation each person had, even though it didn't even ask about it in the first place.
Take it all with a grain of salt and enjoy. Preferably with a Domino's or Mcdouble.
I think this is my favourite part of this forum. When I see members flex a little bit, it's a humbling reminder that I ain't shit. Which makes me feel better about myself for some weird reason.
sonick
12-19-2023, 08:17 PM
I guess I feel a sense of guilt for some reason. Like, I'm living this perfect life. It's like what did I do to deserve the life I'm living? I have my own place, I have a beautiful family and a healthy relationship with my spouse, and I can go on multiple vacations a year and I religiously put money away for my retirement.
As time goes on, I have multiple friends who are going to be f*cked as they will likely still have debt, they'll have nothing saved, and when they're 70 years old, you can't live pay cheque to pay cheque because you likely can't work at the same level anymore.
A common distortion of trauma or anxiety is downplaying positives and too heavily attributing success to luck of the draw.
It's healthy to recognize luck has a part in success (they say the biggest narcissists are those who attribute all the positive in life purely on their own talent and intelligence), but also to have a good balance of self assurance of one's own capabilities.
You said it yourself in the other thread about classic Chinese/Asian mentality of growing up. Not believing you are deserving of good things in life is a classic traumatic result of that upbringing. Also the fear that if you start believing your own shit smells good then you'll lose that drive or urgency to get what got you there in the first place.
I've had a hard time reconciling it myself but after much counselling and self reflection I've started to give myself compassion for things rather than beating myself up thay I don't "deserve" anything, coz ultimately I realized it's not helping me be a better person at work or personally. In fact I feel I perform even better professionally since I started believing in my own abilities and not simply because ingot lucky and am not deserving of my relative success.
Badhobz
12-19-2023, 08:36 PM
I know a lot of Chinese dudes like that and you’re right, they deserve all their successes. Unfortunately it’s culturally ingrained to always do better and to not be boastful of your accomplishments.
That’s why I keep telling my buddy to let loose his purse string and buy the car he wants. He makes good money, he has a small-ish mortgage and his wife makes decent money too. But he’s raised to be a super cheapass and it’s costing him his happiness. Not saying that material goods will bring him happiness but hoarding cash isn’t exactly helping his case. He’s not planning on having kids either so the goal is to burn it all before you kick the bucket
You’re all invited to my 70 year old cocaine, hookers, guns fest. I don’t plan on being around for the adult diaper, kidney dialysis days so I’m gonna go out in style.
sonick
12-19-2023, 08:54 PM
I think it's good to not be boastful and to be humble, but at the same time it can get hammered so deeply into the Chinese psyche growing up that you don't allow YOURSELF to feel pride and recognition of your own achievements, and that's where it becomes self-sabotoging and success limiting.
It got to a point for me where I'd make a great presentation, or a great speech, and get a ton of positive feedback and and compliments, but I'd go home and feel like shit and beat myself up coz I didn't think I earned those compliments. That's when I realized how fucked up it was and I should sort that shit out.
I also learned and realized oftentimes people don't know they are especially strong or talented at something. It comes so naturally to them that it doesn't feel like it takes a lot of effort. Which then also contributes to the idea of not deserving success because it didn't feel like a lot of effort to achieve.
snowball
12-19-2023, 10:54 PM
I had friends buy their houses in 2015 and 2017. We bought our house in 2022. So they spend their Friday nights out at restaurants and buying their kids tons of toys. I spend my Friday nights browsing flyers looking for deals so I can eat next week. We make much more than them as well.
RabidRat
12-20-2023, 03:25 AM
Wealth disparity among friends:
We're all around 40 now and i'm not sure if it's because of our age or because of covid, but it feels like there is a huge income disparity amoung my friends these days. Or maybe it was always there and I didn't realize it.
[...]
And now that I think of it, I look at my group and you can really see the income disparity, We're all highschool friends, so the demographic of the group is pretty diverse.
The more I think about it, the more sad I get. I know money isn't the be all end all, but in our city, money is a huge stress for so many people.
I'm not really sure what's to be done about this, but just curious if you guys are in a similar boat with your friends?
If anything, it feels like the disparity has reduced over the years among my friends, across grade school, university, and through work.
I grew up in east van, but took the bus to school on the west side for programs my parents wanted me in. That meant I went to school and made friends with a mix of kids from family backgrounds like mine, vs others whose parents were clearly wealthy. It was generally fine, though sometimes awkward like in Grade 4 when a parent was driving me home and they were like "uh... we've been driving a reeeally long time now, are you sure we shouldn't have turned to get to your house by now?" lol.
Anyway after we went to university, that was kind of the equalizer: we had the opportunity to go out and generate our own wealth. Most of my friends are doing pretty ok by now, with a few exceptions that came out of them choosing a career path based purely on passion/interest which didn't happen to line up with economic viability (e.g. Environmental Science -> Aquarium staff).
"At least doing ok" really runs a wide range in our group. Literally $80k - $700k. But the point is that we don't notice it in practice. Back to Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs: I think at $80k, you're near the top of not having joy level impacted by money (provided you're not trying to keep up with anybody but yourself). It means certain things like buying a condo rather than a detached, and maybe going on vacation a little less often. But really doesn't impact things on the cashflow level.
Hangouts not affordable for all within the group:
I just found out one of our really good friends doesn't hang out with us anymore because he can't afford to. It's not like we go to super extravagant dinners, but it would probably be like $40-$100 for the night out.
Despite the disparity in our income, that doesn't affect our group hangouts at all. Whenever we hang out, the stuff we do doesn't cost very much: the real value is in seeing each other and doing quality catch-up. The venue / activity does not matter. Getting together at someone's place for a potluck holiday dinner, going for a drive, going camping, etc. Even going on vacation together has not been an issue: it's just often we go on a big trip together depends on how comfortable they are, I guess.
Going to Germany a week for Oktoberfest and track time on the Nurburgring was the most spendy we've ever been, and was not a strain for anyone.
Maybe the difference is that we're a bunch of cheap fucks and we're not that creative about using our money :p.
Questionable behavior in a friend:
Another buddy apparently owes almost everyone in our group money (including me) to some degree or another. What's really bad about this friend is that he still spends money on stupid shit. His latest move was to ask my buddy to grab him a ticket to a show which was like $150 and he's not paying him back.
Kinda hard to tell what is going on with this: not enough data to know if where this is on the spectrum of "well-meaning lack of self-control" to "deliberate taking advantage of others", but any way you slice it, it doesn't seem positive.
You are influenced by the closest people in your life. Something to think about!
Motivation to come on this forum:
I think this is my favourite part of this forum. When I see members flex a little bit, it's a humbling reminder that I ain't shit. Which makes me feel better about myself for some weird reason.
I generally feel ok about where I am, but I like coming on these forums and having examples among you to look up to.
Some of you are super accomplished in your line of work.
Some of you are really thoughtful about your investments and prudent with financial planning.
Some of you have seen a lot of shit, thought profoundly on what life is about.
Some of you are stand-out exceptional parents to your kids, and kids to your parents.
Some of you are just fucking heroes, helping people out when they're in a jam.
And some of you are real assholes, which has been a great prompt for self-reflection :).
bcrdukes
12-20-2023, 06:32 AM
And some of you are real assholes, which has been a great prompt for self-reflection :).
No way!!! Not on this forum! ::denied:
68style
12-20-2023, 07:05 AM
I can't believe you Richmond boys aren't getting your fried chicken from LA Chicken. The shame.
That place has gone downhill in my opinion... bit of a shame... you can tell they're not doing that well with all the other fried chicken places that have popped up. Their pricing is out of this world too.
whitev70r
12-20-2023, 07:10 AM
Yah, last time I was in the LA Chicken area and wanted a snack, after looking at the menu, I had to walk out. You have to make Badhobz salary to eat there :lol.
Popeye's? Or Mary Brown's? And now there is practically a Korean Fried chicken place on every other corner. #anyplaceexceptKFC
Hondaracer
12-20-2023, 07:13 AM
I think Mary B’s for regular chicken, Popeyes for everything else
The Mary B’s in Kamloops makes a mean bucket lol
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 07:15 AM
Is it me or is that poor dude in LA chicken looking like he’s always 1 drumstick away from a murder suicide rampage ?!
Tapioca
12-20-2023, 07:35 AM
I don't think hanging out at a restaurant is all that anyways after covid. You aren't getting much chatting done if there's more than 8 ppl in a fancy restaurant, and which I agree sometimes ends up being a dick measuring contest. The cheaper the food the better the fun.
The good hang outs are actually heading to some one's house, do a BBQ or just late night grab some snacks and some beers or wine. I've covered the BBQ at our place for the last 2 years. If we went out it would cost us $100 for the two of us, that $100 is typically enough to cover BBQ food for at least 4-6 ppl and have ppl bring your own booze.
Everyone on this thread and forum owns a detached house. The easiest thing to do to make your friends feel comfortable about the wealth disparity is to host (and host often) and not expect friends to bring anything (though everyone brings their own booze or a bottle of wine anyway).
We've hosted our friends for years (no potlucks). We usually source our food from Costco and focus on presentation (my wife has a variety of dishware and likes to be creative when it comes to food), which makes everyone, regardless of where they are in life, comfortable and relaxed. We hosted 5 households a few weeks ago and paid about $200 for the food, which is not a lot these days for some good times.
whitev70r
12-20-2023, 07:40 AM
Is it me or is that poor dude in LA chicken looking like he’s always 1 drumstick away from a murder suicide rampage ?!
:lol ... so true, he is the fried chicken nazi of Seinfeld.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 07:45 AM
Everyone on this thread and forum owns a detached house. The easiest thing to do to make your friends feel comfortable about the wealth disparity is to host (and host often) and not expect friends to bring anything (though everyone brings their own booze or a bottle of wine anyway).
Yes that’s another reason why I usually don’t like inviting people over to my place. Before in my little shitty rat shack it isn’t so blatant and in your face, but now it’s pretty damn bad. Especially if some of the guys are having problems making ends meet.
I usually just say we go out to a park or something and then nobody has to clean up their homes before / after such an event.
Great thread.
But all I got from that first page is that I really need to meet this Badhobz dude now.
If I'm ever so lucky, I'm gonna give him shit for posting that KFC pic (cause it's awesome), then beg him to buy me a few Family Size buckets to bring home to my kids cause I know he can afford it.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 08:18 AM
As a fat man, I will always have some sort of a fried food accessible. Often in my pocket.
So just ask and you shall receive
sonick
12-20-2023, 08:23 AM
As a fat man, I will always have some sort of a fried food accessible. Often in my pocket.
So just ask and you shall receive
Is that a corn dog in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Is that a corn dog in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Yes.
twitchyzero
12-20-2023, 09:06 AM
meanwhile im out here asking where i can save $1 on milk tea
68style
12-20-2023, 09:14 AM
Badhobz would ask that too, it's in his genes (jeans?)
sonick
12-20-2023, 09:17 AM
Is that milk tea on your jeans or are you just happy to see me?
RabidRat
12-20-2023, 09:20 AM
Well, the one friend who owes everyone money is a friend from grade school and we've all been friends for so long. So it feels difficult to just cut him out of our lives. He is incredibly loyal, but he's bad with money. I've learned that if you're going to lend someone money, don't expect it back from them.
I guess I feel a sense of guilt for some reason. Like, I'm living this perfect life. It's like what did I do to deserve the life I'm living? I have my own place, I have a beautiful family and a healthy relationship with my spouse, and I can go on multiple vacations a year and I religiously put money away for my retirement.
As time goes on, I have multiple friends who are going to be f*cked as they will likely still have debt, they'll have nothing saved, and when they're 70 years old, you can't live pay cheque to pay cheque because you likely can't work at the same level anymore.
Ah I'm an idiot, I just realized what your thread was really about. Sounds like you have a situation among friends where some folks are really struggling, i.e. barely surviving, while you're living a pretty high standard of living and feeling super guilty about that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_guilt
Yeah I dunno man, I think people make their own choices about what sacrifices they want to make today for tomorrow's wellbeing. Sounds like they chose (and continue to choose) poorly. That's not on you.
If this is bad enough it's actually weighing on your life, you might consider taking advantage of counseling via workplace benefits. If you love to get a deal, you owe yourself to milk that system for all it's worth :D!
im with you guys, but KFC is where i go to fight a bitch.... i still rather eat this garbage than say a 200 dinner at miku and pretend i know what o-toro is.
https://i.postimg.cc/4yBZG74m/IMG-0059.jpg
i saved the bucket from the last MEAT (Kunty Fight'n Chicken)
Looks like you've got some panel gap gaping over there :megusta:.
https://i.imgur.com/UoE4ffJ.jpg
sonick
12-20-2023, 09:21 AM
That's where he puts his corn dog
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 09:22 AM
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5f3bd517318b0d009e4118e6/lede/1597756771469-vice-editorial-milk-tea-alliance.jpeg?crop=1xw:1xh;center,center
There's a family that reached out out to us to hangout a few times over the last year cause our kids got along in school.
Went to their kids birthday parties and a couple playdates at their place. Chatting with them they were always pretty frank about how bad inflation is and how hard it is to keep up, which we can all relate to.
After a couple hangouts at their place, we decided to reciprocate with a playdate at our place. The mom was a bit 'off' that day, and the family abruptly left early cause she wasn't feeling well. We didn't think much of it at the time.
Now it's been a few months and we haven't heard from them at all. They also were not able to make it to any of our invites either.
We find out through mutual friends (who are much closer to them than we are) that they are actually really stressed financially, and we wonder if that has something to do with us not being to hang out lately.
While we're not rich by any means, they may have felt uncomfortable realizing we're doing a bit more 'okay' than they are. Sucks if this is true, as it may help prevent us from getting together with them more often.
Qmx323
12-20-2023, 09:54 AM
It's no fun wondering if you have to cancel Disney+ and Netflix while you go to another family's house and see them have 3 Roomba's, Dyson vacuums and purifiers.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 09:58 AM
Grab Disney+ through the Shaw promo (free for two years) or Amex when they had that.
Netflix just grab the 5.99 per month that has ads. These ads aren’t even that bad.
PeanutButter
12-20-2023, 09:59 AM
A common distortion of trauma or anxiety is downplaying positives and too heavily attributing success to luck of the draw.
It's healthy to recognize luck has a part in success (they say the biggest narcissists are those who attribute all the positive in life purely on their own talent and intelligence), but also to have a good balance of self assurance of one's own capabilities.
You said it yourself in the other thread about classic Chinese/Asian mentality of growing up. Not believing you are deserving of good things in life is a classic traumatic result of that upbringing. Also the fear that if you start believing your own shit smells good then you'll lose that drive or urgency to get what got you there in the first place.
I've had a hard time reconciling it myself but after much counselling and self reflection I've started to give myself compassion for things rather than beating myself up thay I don't "deserve" anything, coz ultimately I realized it's not helping me be a better person at work or personally. In fact I feel I perform even better professionally since I started believing in my own abilities and not simply because ingot lucky and am not deserving of my relative success.
I think it's good to not be boastful and to be humble, but at the same time it can get hammered so deeply into the Chinese psyche growing up that you don't allow YOURSELF to feel pride and recognition of your own achievements, and that's where it becomes self-sabotoging and success limiting.
It got to a point for me where I'd make a great presentation, or a great speech, and get a ton of positive feedback and and compliments, but I'd go home and feel like shit and beat myself up coz I didn't think I earned those compliments. That's when I realized how fucked up it was and I should sort that shit out.
I also learned and realized oftentimes people don't know they are especially strong or talented at something. It comes so naturally to them that it doesn't feel like it takes a lot of effort. Which then also contributes to the idea of not deserving success because it didn't feel like a lot of effort to achieve.
Geese man, I feel like you're looking into my soul. I resonated with literally everything you said. I think I have a lot of reflecting that needs to be done. I appreciate your feedback, It feels like my perspective has completely changed by what you said.
EvoFire
12-20-2023, 10:07 AM
^ It might be that it's a challenge with the kids. The kids see something you guys have and they want it and whine about but the parents can't give it to them, it might even be something that's really reasonable but they just can't accomodate and it makes them feel terrible. Sometimes kids don't understand or the parents shield the kids from the hardships so they grow up without a care.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 10:10 AM
Or try beating your kids a la my parents. Worked out okay…. I still have ptsd looking at a wooden spoon or a clothes hanger
JDMDreams
12-20-2023, 10:11 AM
What do you mean we can't afford iPhone 16 and ps6 for Christmas. How will I tik tok and only fans?
mikemhg
12-20-2023, 10:27 AM
I can't believe you Richmond boys aren't getting your fried chicken from LA Chicken. The shame.
Was waiting for this. I never go to Richmond, but when I do, it's for LA Chicken.
Best chicken in the GVRD.
supafamous
12-20-2023, 10:56 AM
Was waiting for this. I never go to Richmond, but when I do, it's for LA Chicken.
Best chicken in the GVRD.
Only 2 reasons to go into Richmond: LA Chicken and BBQ Master.
Fun Fact: The couple that ran LA Chicken divorced about 4-5 years ago and the lady no longer works there. It's just the guy plus some old Chinese guy who does all the cooking now.
Gumby
12-20-2023, 10:57 AM
I always tell my kids (9 and 15) that food, lodging, stuff, eating out, etc. isn't cheap and that we're very lucky to be able to afford stuff. I've shown my credit card bill to the older one and it was an eye-opening experience for him!
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 11:24 AM
Only 2 reasons to go into Richmond: LA Chicken and BBQ Master.
Fun Fact: The couple that ran LA Chicken divorced about 4-5 years ago and the lady no longer works there. It's just the guy plus some old Chinese guy who does all the cooking now.
She wasn’t all that bad looking. Just perpetually greasy.
No wonder he looks murderous and depressed at the same time
supafamous
12-20-2023, 11:43 AM
She wasn’t all that bad looking. Just perpetually greasy.
No wonder he looks murderous and depressed at the same time
Two favourite things about Chicken Lady:
1. She'd always say our order into the mic even if she was the one who was making the food. Who are you talking to lady?
2. When my brother lost about 35lbs and stopped being a fat fuck Chicken Lady goes to him one day, "You're so handsome now". We kept telling him that he shoulda slept with her for some free chicken.
68style
12-20-2023, 11:52 AM
I did always get the feeling like... when I went in there it's cuz I'm hungry, but then I'd go in there and interact with her and I'd be like... damn I thought I was hungry. This lady working in a chicken shack and she hungrier than anyone else coming in here.
Or try beating your kids a la my parents. Worked out okay…. I still have ptsd looking at a wooden spoon or a clothes hanger
Got some new prize ideas for the next meat
PeanutButter
12-20-2023, 12:03 PM
Was waiting for this. I never go to Richmond, but when I do, it's for LA Chicken.
Best chicken in the GVRD.
I agree with you, it's great chicken, but It's not worth waiting 25mins+ for chicken. They take forever.
I'd rather get churches
bcrdukes
12-20-2023, 12:03 PM
Got some new prize ideas for the next meat
Hello feather duster! :badpokerface:
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 12:04 PM
She’s not hungry. She’s thirsty
pastarocket
12-20-2023, 12:05 PM
If friends of friends are involved in more meaningful events such as bachelor parties, I think that spending more money that what a guy budgets for a night out is expected.
A friend got married in September. He tells me and other friends that his bachelor party would be low key. Just a fancy dinner at Chinese restaurant.
He did not want one of his groomsmen to take him and the circle of friends to a strip club. That might have been a more expensive night out for all the guys haha. :Pbjt:
Anyways, the bachelor party dinner menu was pre ordered by one of my friend's closest friends. All the fancy items like abalone, Alaskan crab, Beijing duck, etc. The bill per person was about $252.00 before tip for a table of ten.
Some of the guys at that dinner had a pale look on their faces when they saw their bill. LUL
That friend said that his closest friends thought about renting a Lambo for him to drive on the Sea to Sky highway as part of his bachelor party.
That idea got shot down fast when that group of friends found out that each person would pay about $400 to $500 each for a group of ten people. -not sure which rental company they were contacting about renting a Huracan.
Although I have a Huracan as my avatar, I would have said No to pitching in money for a Lambo rental for my buddy if I was part of that group of friends who thought about an exotic car experience for the groom.
bcrdukes
12-20-2023, 12:12 PM
Next Stock & Noob Meat @ LA Chicken? :suspicious:
mikemhg
12-20-2023, 01:35 PM
Next Stock & Noob Meat @ LA Chicken? :suspicious:
That damn place only sits about 8 people on a good day :lol
bcrdukes
12-20-2023, 01:37 PM
We hang out in the parking lot and Badhobz will be the cock block while 68style works his magic on Fried Chicken lady. :fuckyea:
EvoFire
12-20-2023, 01:43 PM
That damn place only sits about 8 people on a good day :lol
That parking lot also only fits like 8 cars on a good day :badpokerface:
JDMDreams
12-20-2023, 01:45 PM
There's food and milk tea at lucky joy if you get hungry and can't wait
freakshow
12-20-2023, 02:04 PM
Fun Fact: The couple that ran LA Chicken divorced about 4-5 years ago and the lady no longer works there. It's just the guy plus some old Chinese guy who does all the cooking now.
I thought i saw the lady there a few weeks ago...
Gerbs
12-20-2023, 02:06 PM
And now that I think of it, I look at my group and you can really see the income disparity, We're all highschool friends, so the demographic of the group is pretty diverse.
I'm not really sure what's to be done about this, but just curious if you guys are in a similar boat with your friends?
My highschool friends, ranged from unemployed, $40K - 130K from 22-27. Now at 28, the curve got flattened $85 - 150k once everyone has 5-8 YOE and job hopped 1-3x. This doesn't include family inheritance income, investments, side incomes or rental properties etc. Strictly employment + self employment.
As I hung out with people with more expensive hobbies such as drop-in sports, concerts and events, golf, winter sports, partying, cars, etc. There's definitely a bias where everyone earns over $100-300k+. Those who can't afford it or don't want to spend the money seem to weed themselves out overtime. I think as you get older, people will gravitate towards groups that can also afford that lifestyle so they don't have to deal with IOU's, always picking the cheapest option. hearing "that's so expensive or not worth it". It would be hard to extend an invite to those you know who wouldn't be done after they continuously decline.
Best play imo if you can afford to, is to offer to pay for friends who can't afford it!
supafamous
12-20-2023, 02:21 PM
I thought i saw the lady there a few weeks ago...
I haven't seen her in years - was the ex there too? I only ever go on Saturdays so it's possible she works days when he isn't around (and I'm not). I know the divorce definitely happened - source is a family member of theirs.
Qmx323
12-20-2023, 02:46 PM
I used to go all the time when I worked at Automall, sad to hear :(
They ran the place pretty well and smoothly.
Always hooked me up with 4 pieces when I only order 2. Got so fat lol.
winson604
12-20-2023, 02:46 PM
Even though I frequent Richmond enough I always tend to hit some Chinese spot instead. I had always thought LA Chicken was #2 or #3 on my list (Churches #1) but then I finally had it again recently after like 3 or 4 years and it wasn't that great. Unpopular opinion I know!
PeanutButter
12-20-2023, 04:26 PM
There's a family that reached out out to us to hangout a few times over the last year cause our kids got along in school.
Went to their kids birthday parties and a couple playdates at their place. Chatting with them they were always pretty frank about how bad inflation is and how hard it is to keep up, which we can all relate to.
After a couple hangouts at their place, we decided to reciprocate with a playdate at our place. The mom was a bit 'off' that day, and the family abruptly left early cause she wasn't feeling well. We didn't think much of it at the time.
Now it's been a few months and we haven't heard from them at all. They also were not able to make it to any of our invites either.
We find out through mutual friends (who are much closer to them than we are) that they are actually really stressed financially, and we wonder if that has something to do with us not being to hang out lately.
While we're not rich by any means, they may have felt uncomfortable realizing we're doing a bit more 'okay' than they are. Sucks if this is true, as it may help prevent us from getting together with them more often.
Oh dude, my wife was at Strong Start with our kid, it's like a place to go meet other families and help develop and foster skills for children. Pretty much a free program from the VSB.
My wife told me that this mom made a comment how our son always had berries for his snack. Raspberries, blackberries, etc. And she said how they're so expensive now. My wife definitely agreed, but our son likes them, so we just get them.
Anyway, my wife got to know her pretty well and that mom's family was struggling pretty badly and their groceries were always dictated by what was on sale and if berries were too expensive, they wouldn't buy them.
Thinking about it now, this interaction might have been the first time I really realized there are different economic levels between people. I guess I never paid much attention to it before. So I guess when I found out about my friends who aren't at the same level, it's been affecting me more and more, hence this post.
I do like the idea of having the friends over and just hosting everything myself, so just spend $100 on dinner and having people over, that might be a nice way of connecting without having to go out and spend money at a restaurant.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 04:32 PM
its funny we have these thoughts now. Where the fuck was this charity when we were growing up?
i dont ever recall my parents asking to borrow money or even having friends over. In fact im pretty sure they had zero friends while i was growing up and thus they turned into a bunch of weirdo ass hermits. Pretty damn sad.
Its good to see you guys being so open. my parents and my childhood would have turned out very different if they had this kind of emotional support.
I do like the idea of having the friends over and just hosting everything myself, so just spend $100 on dinner and having people over, that might be a nice way of connecting without having to go out and spend money at a restaurant.
your wife might say otherwise. especially if it turns into a long term thing.
My buddy and his wife used to come over to play big2 all the time. I got tired of cleaning up the toilet and dishes every week so now we just go out. To be honest the pandemic killed it first, but we didnt reinstate this house meetup afterwards.
CivicBlues
12-20-2023, 04:57 PM
Seriously I don't have people over because the thought of my friends' drunken piss back-splashing all over my bathroom floor has me shuddering.
Do that shit (and piss) at a restaurant.
Hondaracer
12-20-2023, 06:35 PM
My parents had big annual parties all the time and always had friends over in the summer as well. My wife’s family was the same huge gatherings of all the siblings and as a result her and all her cousins (6 that still live In the lower mainland) all still hang out all the time which is great, and now those cousins kids are all friends with each other as well, which feels like a rarity with white people lol.
We’ve kinda carried on the tradition my parents set and have a big Xmas party as well as a more informal summer bbq where we cover most of the food and some beers etc.
A couple hundred bucks goes a long way to feed people, can’t afford to go to Les Amis anymore but Costco does the trick
https://i.imgur.com/KbkvIx0.jpg
My buddy and his wife used to come over to play big2 all the time. I got tired of cleaning up the toilet and dishes every week so now we just go out. To be honest the pandemic killed it first, but we didnt reinstate this house meetup afterwards.
similar story, used to host/have friends over all the time before pandemic. our dishwasher was only a dish rack so it was a lot of dishes to wash :lol
transitioned to just using paper plates, but ya, we stopped hosting gatherings and really became hermits.
if anything we host play dates for our kids so they get to socialize.
@honda damn that's a nice spread, looks nicer than some work events i go to :notbad:
Hondaracer
12-20-2023, 07:16 PM
Paper plates, napkins, disposable cuttlery, and a garbage can with contractor bags.
Only wash serving dishes and wine glasses then. This year was probably the most dialed in we’ve had it. Was lit AF by 1am or so and still managed to clean up 90% of it lol
Costco has crazy deals on paper plates, cuttlery, napkins, etc. everything you need so if you host once or twice a year stock up and you’ll be good for a few for $60-$70
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 07:19 PM
the dishes dont bother me as much as the toilet duties afterward.
I should just force all these motherfuckers to sit their ass down. I dont care if your dick is in the bowl, deal with it. I aint cleaning up your splatters
AND DONT JERK OFF TO MY BIDET !
donk.
12-20-2023, 07:21 PM
Always hooked me up with 4 pieces when I only order 2. Got so fat lol.
Time to update your avatar, Bill.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2NzExMDM2Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjQ2MDk0MjE@._ V1_UY1200_CR485,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
Costco has crazy deals on paper plates, cuttlery, napkins, etc. everything you need so if you host once or twice a year stock up and you’ll be good for a few for $60-$70
the best is the wooden/biodegradable cutlery, felt bad tossing plastics
the dishes dont bother me as much as the toilet duties afterward.
I should just force all these motherfuckers to sit their ass down. I dont care if your dick is in the bowl, deal with it. I aint cleaning up your splatters
AND DONT JERK OFF TO MY BIDET !
maybe you need to drop a cherio in your toilet or a bee sticker so they have a target to aim :lol :troll: :badpokerface:
Time to update your avatar, Bill.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2NzExMDM2Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjQ2MDk0MjE@._ V1_UY1200_CR485,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
shit this is how i feel with my post pandemic bod :okay: FeelsBadMan
EvoFire
12-20-2023, 07:41 PM
Oh dude, my wife was at Strong Start with our kid, it's like a place to go meet other families and help develop and foster skills for children. Pretty much a free program from the VSB.
My wife told me that this mom made a comment how our son always had berries for his snack. Raspberries, blackberries, etc. And she said how they're so expensive now. My wife definitely agreed, but our son likes them, so we just get them.
Anyway, my wife got to know her pretty well and that mom's family was struggling pretty badly and their groceries were always dictated by what was on sale and if berries were too expensive, they wouldn't buy them.
Thinking about it now, this interaction might have been the first time I really realized there are different economic levels between people. I guess I never paid much attention to it before. So I guess when I found out about my friends who aren't at the same level, it's been affecting me more and more, hence this post.
I do like the idea of having the friends over and just hosting everything myself, so just spend $100 on dinner and having people over, that might be a nice way of connecting without having to go out and spend money at a restaurant.
That's one of the things that I tell my wife we are very privileged with. We are tight with the mortgage but we still try to eat well and healthy. When we do groceries we just buy whatever she or the kids like. Many people don't have that luxury and has to eat whatever that's on sale or generates the most food for the least amount of money. She just picked up some affinois because she wanted some, I picked up a few mangoes because it looked ripe and my daughter would like it. Avocados and dragonfruit is a stable food every week for the kids. I passed on some $11.99 strawberries because that's a retarded price but still can afford some $5.99 raspberries to make up that berry need.
I guess we are fortunate we don't have to mind our friends as much as everyone is making decent money. There's like really one or two guys who are really bad with life choices, but it's very rare.
Badhobz
12-20-2023, 08:03 PM
I dont know if you guys did this, but i found that I've weeded out a lot of my friends.
Im down to a very small core group of people i enjoy and a lot of the old buddies that i used to hang with slowly drifted apart. Most of the guys that drifted are still stuck in the "20's mode" and enjoy annoying shit like clubbing / staying out past 9pm / and recreational drug use.
Nothing against these things, i just think im too close to 40 to do these things anymore.
My night of fun includes going to bed at 9pm, looking at random scenery, yelling at clouds, and the occasional ooggling of younger women who have a net negative interest in reciprocating anything other than a middle finger.
Fuck i dont even drive very fast anymore. Like i was going 80 the other day and was like WOAH this is kinda dangerous.
Everyday i look in the mirror i dont like what i see. Then google photos hits me with HEY 12 years ago you were pretty FLY and wasnt such a fat stupid fuck.
FUCK YOU GOOGLE you piece of shit.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/nara-japan-march-th-old-japanese-man-bending-down-posture-walking-stick-old-japanese-man-bending-down-posture-187584798.jpg
its 9:05, im going to bed.
hypediss
12-20-2023, 09:19 PM
Even though I frequent Richmond enough I always tend to hit some Chinese spot instead. I had always thought LA Chicken was #2 or #3 on my list (Churches #1) but then I finally had it again recently after like 3 or 4 years and it wasn't that great. Unpopular opinion I know!
ever since they broke their broaster the place has been shit, youre not wrong the place went downhill the past couple of years.
EvoFire
12-20-2023, 09:27 PM
I still go back to LA chicken every now and then, just haven't been as often as before covid
underscore
12-20-2023, 10:43 PM
similar story, used to host/have friends over all the time before pandemic. our dishwasher was only a dish rack so it was a lot of dishes to wash :lol
transitioned to just using paper plates, but ya, we stopped hosting gatherings and really became hermits.
Same here, we were the first ones to get a place so we kinda ended up hosting by default. Which was fine but it's a lot of work even for fairly minor stuff. Then we were the first to have kids (actually the only ones so far now that I think about it) but nobody else was willing to host anything so it all kinda died. Apart from a couple of them I basically never see or hear anything from most of those guys anymore.
Our other friends that have kids around the same age we see more often now (relatively speaking). As the kids grow up it gets easier and we see each other more frequently which is nice.
JDMDreams
12-20-2023, 10:46 PM
I haven't been to LA chicken in years so I don't really remember what it tastes like
its funny we have these thoughts now. Where the fuck was this charity when we were growing up?
i dont ever recall my parents asking to borrow money or even having friends over. In fact im pretty sure they had zero friends while i was growing up and thus they turned into a bunch of weirdo ass hermits. Pretty damn sad.
Its good to see you guys being so open. my parents and my childhood would have turned out very different if they had this kind of emotional support.
your wife might say otherwise. especially if it turns into a long term thing.
My buddy and his wife used to come over to play big2 all the time. I got tired of cleaning up the toilet and dishes every week so now we just go out. To be honest the pandemic killed it first, but we didnt reinstate this house meetup afterwards.
Kinda similar to me. Growing up poor. Many meals consisting of just rice and some random condiment. Parents who only worked and never developed social skills (or they were too lazy, I don't know) so the idea of having guests other than close family a few times when I was young over was, otherwise, not really a thing. Actually got worse in the later years where Christmas would feel like just another day. Meanwhile my friends would tell about their almost Disneyland like fantasy Christmas with friends, family, food and all the gifts. I always pined for that sort of feeling but never got it. Oh well. Once I got into my early 20s and volunteered for UGM did that authentic feeling start to set in.
I started viewing life at a macro level (capturing the little details and intricacies) rather than a wide angle pano level (where everything looks beautiful from far away).
SkinnyPupp
12-21-2023, 12:43 AM
Seriously I don't have people over because the thought of my friends' drunken piss back-splashing all over my bathroom floor has me shuddering.
Do that shit (and piss) at a restaurant.
Force them to use the toilet the correct way, by sitting down to pee. House rules!
winson604
12-21-2023, 01:20 AM
Force them to use the toilet the correct way, by sitting down to pee. House rules!
I forgot which thread it was where it randomly turned into guys talking about sitting down and pissing at home. Here we go again :lol
SkinnyPupp
12-21-2023, 05:43 AM
I forgot which thread it was where it randomly turned into guys talking about sitting down and pissing at home. Here we go again :lol
It's hilarious that people exist who stand up to pee and make a mess just because they're not the ones who have to clean it up KEKW
It's so bad people don't even invite men into their homes!
hud 91gt
12-21-2023, 06:25 AM
^ haha. We know where you stand…. Or don’t stand.
Once again, had this convo many times with large groups of friends. Sitting while peeing men are few and far between. But I’m one of them. Constant verbal abuse from being raised by Mom and Sister. lol. Saying that, women are just as bad. Women’s public washrooms are awful. They basicly stand with a 2 gauge shotgun with birdshot, vs an accurate semi auto. Lol
Hondaracer
12-21-2023, 06:35 AM
Had 35 people over for Xmas party and didn’t even have to clean bathroom after lol
Get those micro penises to sit down? Lol fuck like I don’t get it
At work there’s like an epidemic of people pissing on the floor where people are getting fucking chokeddddd about it. And as per my previous messages where I said I’m not one of those ones that sticks my whole body in the urinal was thinking is it me? Triple checked, nope lol. Sometimes it’s like somone dumped half a red solo cup on the floor. Fucking people
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 06:56 AM
That’s why I dislike having peeps over. I don’t wanna be a dick about it but there’s bound to be splatter. Even with perfect aim.
I tried to make it more inviting to sit your ass down as my bidet is heated. But then I’m worried they might press a button for anal stimulation and then start enjoying it a bit too much.
I had one of her friends not come out of the bathroom for 10 minutes. But I did hear the bidet go on (this was at the old house where the walls are thin). The fuck was that bitch doing in there. By 10 minutes it’s just shooting cold water up your ass as the hot water tank has deleted already.
Qmx323
12-21-2023, 07:10 AM
It's hilarious that people exist who stand up to pee and make a mess just because they're not the ones who have to clean it up KEKW
It's so bad people don't even invite men into their homes!
Some dudes don't wash their ass and dicks because its ghey
No chance they're cleaning their own pee
donk.
12-21-2023, 07:19 AM
Theres something wrong with your pic QMX, but i cant figure out what it is
68style
12-21-2023, 07:28 AM
I feel like hondaracer is taunting us, "look at my spread guys, btw none of you were invited lol"
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 07:38 AM
Theres something wrong with your pic QMX, but i cant figure out what it is
best avatar evar. its like the embodiment of revscene now.
RS = Retired Support group for middle aged men.
I feel like hondaracer is taunting us, "look at my spread guys, btw none of you were invited lol"
I gotta dust off my pointy hat and bleach some bedsheets before i can go.
i started sitting down at home when i pee, i wouldn't do it anywhere else though.
it just keeps your toilet and floor way cleaner especially if you are a big water drinker and go a lot like me. also its kinda nice, you sit and you don't have to think abt aim or cleaning after. also it kinda helps to have a bidet at home so you have something warm to sit on.
Hondaracer
12-21-2023, 08:17 AM
I feel like hondaracer is taunting us, "look at my spread guys, btw none of you were invited lol"
I’m glad my meat gets you feelin somthing :fullofwin:
CivicBlues
12-21-2023, 08:42 AM
Girls ain't perfect neither. If they get up too quickly before wiping it can dribble out and onto the seat.
And you think guys that usually stand up to pee are going to know how to shake properly it while sitting down? Fuck no! That hose is kinked the wrong way!
68style
12-21-2023, 08:51 AM
I’m glad my meat gets you feelin somthing :fullofwin:
Even if it's your meat being feeled?
TOS'd
12-21-2023, 08:55 AM
:inoutugh:
supafamous
12-21-2023, 09:25 AM
Related to this thread:
https://www.pollara.com/middle-class-optimism-crashes-in-canada/
https://www.pollara.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Middle-Class-Identity-Release-Dec-2023-1.pdf
The poll revealed that eight in ten Canadians consider themselves “middle class,” including 39 per cent of those earning less than $20,000 and 92 per cent of those earning more than $150,000. Most high-income earners surveyed considered themselves “middle class.”
The entitlement of high earners (more than $150k/yr) calling themselves middle class - 92% of them said they were "middle class" (slide 10 in the PDF). Edit: Though in major cities $150k really CAN be middle class
twitchyzero
12-21-2023, 09:38 AM
going into 2024
80k is like getting by
120 some comforts, but financial pressure is definitely still real
i dont think anything less than 180 is considered cushy in vancouver (~10k usd/mo)
68style
12-21-2023, 09:53 AM
This is about right... I was right at $80k as a single person with a condo that was bought at like a 40% discount from current prices and I was just able to be getting by with no new cars (only drove old cars) and a couple of decent vacays and hanging out with friends.
I needed to get someone to live with me to feel any real breathing room though.
Can't imagine what I would have to do if my condo was bought at current prices on that income... eat instant noodles every day I guess.
hud 91gt
12-21-2023, 09:54 AM
Honestly with the way our taxes are set. Anyone with a basic salary job is middle class. I don’t really care what you make. It’s not until you can bypass taxes where you can really take advantage of the money you make.
i think just stating salary is not enough in vancouver, you have to state your living expenses lol.
you can make 120k but if you're renting a 2br downtown and spending 4k on that then that's totally different than if you bought 7 years ago for $500k and have a locked in mortgage at 2%.
Hondaracer
12-21-2023, 09:59 AM
This is about right... I was right at $80k as a single person with a condo that was bought at like a 40% discount from current prices and I was just able to be getting by with no new cars (only drove old cars) and a couple of decent vacays and hanging out with friends.
I needed to get someone to live with me to feel any real breathing room though.
Can't imagine what I would have to do if my condo was bought at current prices on that income... eat instant noodles every day I guess.
At 80k you’d be making more than what, 80-90% of Canadians and you still have to live like your in poverty lol, awesome.
Don’t know how people do it
Tapioca
12-21-2023, 10:09 AM
Lots of money discussions on RS these days and lots of low-key flexing, but also grounded discussions as well.
I don't work in private wealth or financial planning, but in a place like Vancouver, there are people who support their lifestyle through different means that are not necessarily illegal. It's the people who work salaried jobs with mortgages who are chumps and are feeling the brunt of inflation.
For example, take the proliferation of Teslas in this city. A Model 3 or Model Y is an expense we can't really stomach (because variable rate mortgage), which is why we drive old vehicles (8+ years). To get the max rebates on an EV, you need to make less than 80K, which basically excludes any working professional who is trying to make it in this city from accessing the rebate program. I guess it could be considered a success since there are a lot more EVs on the road these days, but the program's been a failure from actually supporting the people who should benefit from the program (i.e. actual middle class working people).
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 10:23 AM
its a common discussion amongst everyone now. MONEY MONEY MONEY MOENY
doesnt matter if you have 2 cents to rub together or making 300k+ like the average fuck head at the ports, its all this talk of money that proliferates the lunch rooms, dining halls, etc. Its probably whats adding to all this pressure and why people are having mental problems.
Even the kids at mcdonalds. I drove up to the drive thru to grab a coffee frap and this kid asks me how i was able to afford the ratrolla.
I said dont get a history degree and go into trades.
Hes like youre in trades? im like nope.
Hes like so what degree do you have? i said history and philosophy degree. :accepted:
Then he looked at me like am a friggin moron. I guess that wasnt very helpful. I should have told him to just deal drugs.
EvoFire
12-21-2023, 10:31 AM
The whole tax brackets and social benefits define a middle class from a bygone era for parts of this country. For a new grad who is "doing well" and making say 85k, you can barely survive paying $3k for rent and food costs are hundreds every month. Not including any other expenditures.
For young families who would easily have a combined income of 150k just so they can afford a 2br condo, they would not qualify for any social benefits when they have kids because the cutoff is so fucking low and child care costs are so retardedly high. Nevermind the extreme difficulty of getting child care.
Taxes simply have no kept up with inflation. Something that is probably quite evident for people on this forum as car people. Luxury tax is set at 55k. A Rav4 hybrid is 50k nowadays. Need something a little bigger? Highlander Hybrid will now put you into luxury territory. We can somehow have inflation but tax brackets and existing cut offs don't grow at the same rate. It's a squeeze in multiple directions.
winson604
12-21-2023, 10:42 AM
i started sitting down at home when i pee, i wouldn't do it anywhere else though.
it just keeps your toilet and floor way cleaner especially if you are a big water drinker and go a lot like me. also its kinda nice, you sit and you don't have to think abt aim or cleaning after. also it kinda helps to have a bidet at home so you have something warm to sit on.
Haha I started to do it once I bought my own place back in 2018. My wife doesn't know I do it she just assumes I'm taking a dump when she sees me and I don't correct her that I'm not. At other people's houses I'm very cautious about getting it anywhere other than the bowl and will wipe and clean if I miss. At a restaurant however I won't purposely piss on the floor but I ain't trying 100% to keep it in the urinal/toilet either.
twitchyzero
12-21-2023, 10:42 AM
yes and no for your car example
nowadays any new car is a luxury
vehicles historically do not follow inflation as strictly like food and rent, i dunno perhaps if we didn't need massive screens i think it's still possible to not have their prices runaway
mikemhg
12-21-2023, 11:09 AM
the dishes dont bother me as much as the toilet duties afterward.
I should just force all these motherfuckers to sit their ass down. I dont care if your dick is in the bowl, deal with it. I aint cleaning up your splatters
AND DONT JERK OFF TO MY BIDET !
I like having the guys over for UFC night or just to hop in the hot tub. I'll either cook or the GF will, good way to get together, and it's cheap.
Added bonus, have a nice bottle night, then you get a few left over bottles for the liquor cabinet. Win win.
Speaking about pissing and sitting down, I'm a big advocate of this when at home.
Why is it sissy if you sit on the toilet to piss in your own house as a dude? I'm not trying to hose my toilet down with piss out of this BBC, with all that water splashing around on the bathroom floor. The GF doesn't like it either.
Sit when you piss at home guys.
i understand why ppl might think its emasculating but its still stupid to think that being manly in your own bathroom is more important than leaving gross piss droplets all over your toilet and floor.
apparently in germany and some parts of europe it's the norm these days, i think it should be too.
JDMDreams
12-21-2023, 11:20 AM
That's what I don't get right now, when is the camels back gonna break. Everything is getting so expensive annually, property tax, strata fees, insurance easily 10%+ annually, there's no way regular people's income increase 10% a year.
I see that I'm getting less and less value for what I pay. Shittier and shittier service but wants 25% tips. I don't see what the alternative is besides going somewhere with lower costs.
Only the gov wins by charging a higher % in tax but getting less and less services for more of my tax dollars.
mikemhg
12-21-2023, 11:31 AM
i understand why ppl might think its emasculating but its still stupid to think that being manly in your own bathroom is more important than leaving gross piss droplets all over your toilet and floor.
apparently in germany and some parts of europe it's the norm these days, i think it should be too.
I still feel like a bit of a fag when I'm sit pissin' and the GF comes into the bathroom to grab some mascara or something, though :lol
Gerbs
12-21-2023, 11:39 AM
I dont know if you guys did this, but i found that I've weeded out a lot of my friends.
Im down to a very small core group of people i enjoy and a lot of the old buddies that i used to hang with slowly drifted apart. Most of the guys that drifted are still stuck in the "20's mode" and enjoy annoying shit like clubbing / staying out past 9pm / and recreational drug use.
It started for all my peers. The one's that are still clubbing / doing drugs are sticking together.
The one's that exited are into more wholesome activities like dinner/drinks at a friends place. Or they started a new expensive hobby or sport that runs during the day so you're already asleep by 9 - 11PM. Party mainly consists of someone's birthday dinner/house party and dipping before they go club/karaoke.
Thinking about it now, this interaction might have been the first time I really realized there are different economic levels between people. I guess I never paid much attention to it before. So I guess when I found out about my friends who aren't at the same level, it's been affecting me more and more, hence this post.
I remember growing up all the rich kids had Mcdonald's MEALS, not just jr.chickens and mcdoubles. Or they'll have those Kraft Lunchables. Us Asians staring with jealousy with our stinky thermos wontons or sandwich with 1 slice of deli meat, no mayo.
Various levels I notice between people are now,
- Living at home / Moved out / Slum Lord
- No Car / Beater / New Car < 5-8 Years Old
- Shitty Diet + Aim to buy whatever is cheapest but not necessarily healthiest / Healthy Diet but mainly veggies to keep costs low / Fish, Berries, All types of beef, unlimited grocery budget
- No Vacations / 1 Vacation / 3-6 vacations + local getaways
- Eat at home to save money / Eat at $15 - 25 places / Eating at $35 - 60 and not worrying too much
The biggest thing I notice is what people bring to Potlucks
- Stingy / less well off folks like to bring a $10-15 Costco Cake / pastries / dessert / cups or plates / Garlic Bread / Fries / homemade veggies
- A take out dish from somewhere / fried chicken / korean fried chicken / alcohol
- Ballers like to bring some big ass home cooked steaks / big platters of meat takeout / 20 - 30+ pieces of fried chicken / Roasted beef, hams, turkeys.
I've seen one potluck that ended up with mainly fries, bread, samosas, and like 4-8 desserts lol
Tapioca
12-21-2023, 11:47 AM
yes and no for your car example
nowadays any new car is a luxury
vehicles historically do not follow inflation as strictly like food and rent, i dunno perhaps if we didn't need massive screens i think it's still possible to not have their prices runaway
I personally don't believe that a new car should be a luxury. There were cars on the market that used to serve the average family with 2-3 kids looking to buy a new car every 7-8 years, like the Dodge Caravan, but they are no longer on the market.
I'll give you a more concrete example. My friend drives a Model Y and his wife doesn't work. I don't know this for sure, but knowing him, I'm sure he registered his wife as the owner so they could get the maximum rebate. He works for the feds in an individual contributor role and makes maybe 80-90K.
His family owns a few properties and his family lives with his parents, while he rents a house to two separate tenants.
Meanwhile, there are many households in the 200-300K range who want to do the "right thing" by reducing their carbon footprint, but can't take advantage of these EV incentives because, to Evo's point, the programs are income-tested around old metrics that no longer apply given the rising cost of living and high interest rates.
Sure, some people will say that such households have a spending problem and are looking for handouts to buy a Tesla, but we wouldn't be in this thread talking about money unless all of the ballers on RS weren't to a certain extent, feeling the squeeze.
Gerbs
12-21-2023, 11:53 AM
Sit when you piss at home guys.
Gotta make sure you sit back far enough or you touch the toilet bowl
Lots of money discussions on RS these days and lots of low-key flexing, but also grounded discussions as well.
I don't work in private wealth or financial planning, but in a place like Vancouver, there are people who support their lifestyle through different means that are not necessarily illegal. It's the people who work salaried jobs with mortgages who are chumps and are feeling the brunt of inflation.
For example, take the proliferation of Teslas in this city. A Model 3 or Model Y is an expense we can't really stomach (because variable rate mortgage), which is why we drive old vehicles (8+ years). To get the max rebates on an EV, you need to make less than 80K, which basically excludes any working professional who is trying to make it in this city from accessing the rebate program. I guess it could be considered a success since there are a lot more EVs on the road these days, but the program's been a failure from actually supporting the people who should benefit from the program (i.e. actual middle class working people).
Lots of money discussions on RS these days and lots of low-key flexing, but also grounded discussions as well.
I don't work in private wealth or financial planning, but in a place like Vancouver, there are people who support their lifestyle through different means that are not necessarily illegal. It's the people who work salaried jobs with mortgages who are chumps and are feeling the brunt of inflation.
For example, take the proliferation of Teslas in this city. A Model 3 or Model Y is an expense we can't really stomach (because variable rate mortgage), which is why we drive old vehicles (8+ years). To get the max rebates on an EV, you need to make less than 80K, which basically excludes any working professional who is trying to make it in this city from accessing the rebate program. I guess it could be considered a success since there are a lot more EVs on the road these days, but the program's been a failure from actually supporting the people who should benefit from the program (i.e. actual middle class working people).
I have two friends that have new Tesla's, their own condo, and no income or PT realtor. The city is interesting, we're starting to finally see the first generation of their parents success. Aka giving the kid a stress free / worry free life financially. it allows them to find their own passion vs making the most money. I think they struggle with identity because everyone around them works and one of the first things people ask is "what do you do" and I can see the discontent with answering that.
Maybe cause all they do is scroll on their phone and think they must be an A-list influencer / celebrity / model.
twitchyzero
12-21-2023, 12:02 PM
I remember growing up all the rich kids had Mcdonald's MEALS, not just jr.chickens and mcdoubles. Or they'll have those Kraft Lunchables. Us Asians staring with jealousy with our stinky thermos wontons or sandwich with 1 slice of deli meat, no mayo.
getting 30c mcnuggets delivered were happy days
talking to my friends recently and they were like you and got jealous of lunchables, to me they were just overpriced cold cheese and pepperonis and i rather eat wontons then and still do lol
I personally don't believe that a new car should be a luxury. There were cars on the market that used to serve the average family with 2-3 kids looking to buy a new car every 7-8 years, like the Dodge Caravan, but they are no longer on the market.
used cars now can be quite reliable, and safe
whereas 20 years ago a used cars maybe seen as something will only get you by for a few years
pacifica is chrysler's last vehicle on sale, accessible minivans are dying out, well because less and less families are having more than 2 kids anymore
CivicBlues
12-21-2023, 12:04 PM
All those white kids that made fun of you for eating wontons at elementary are now paying $30 for a plate of 5 wontons at some bougie fusion restaurant in Chinatown these days.
supafamous
12-21-2023, 12:06 PM
I remember growing up all the rich kids had Mcdonald's MEALS, not just jr.chickens and mcdoubles. Or they'll have those Kraft Lunchables. Us Asians staring with jealousy with our stinky thermos wontons or sandwich with 1 slice of deli meat, no mayo.
McDoubles and Jr Chickens when you were growing up? How old are you? I thought everyone here is in their 40s.
About that middle class thing - I think there's a difference between statistically middle class and what lifestyle feels middle class. For the latter I think there's a lot of lifestyle inflation that has happened and it's not realistic nor representative of the reality.
Like I have to remind my wife sometimes that we're actually rich (but not RICH) cause she talks about how expensive shit is and how we can't afford to do certain things but those are rich people things that she's talking about that just seems like regular people things. By the numbers we're rich, it just doesn't feel that way.
https://www03.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/hmip-pimh/en/TableMapChart/TableMatchingCriteria?GeographyType=Country&GeographyId=1&CategoryLevel1=Population%2C%20Households%20and%20 Housing%20Stock&CategoryLevel2=Household%20Income&ColumnField=HouseholdIncomeRange&RowField=Province&SearchTags%5B0%5D.Key=Households&SearchTags%5B0%5D.Value=Number&SearchTags%5B1%5D.Key=Statistics&SearchTags%5B1%5D.Value=AverageAndMedian
Average household income in Canada is $92k while median is $70k. I assume this data includes people who work part time etc so the number is probably a bit low (and $70k in a household is 2 min wage jobs). So middle class is something like 1 standard deviation on both sides so probably like $70-130k household income for the average Canadian household (figure 20-30% higher for Vancouver or Toronto)
That kind of household income is tough to live on but it's also middle class by the numbers.
EvoFire
12-21-2023, 12:09 PM
Gotta make sure you sit back far enough or you touch the toilet bowl
You know there's two types of toilets right? The round type and the elongated type. I don't know why a round bowl is still a thing and why so many places have a round bowl, it simply does not fit.
Gerbs
12-21-2023, 12:13 PM
its a common discussion amongst everyone now. MONEY MONEY MONEY MOENY
Even the kids at mcdonalds. I drove up to the drive thru to grab a coffee frap and this kid asks me how i was able to afford the ratrolla.
Then he looked at me like am a friggin moron. I guess that wasnt very helpful. I should have told him to just deal drugs.
In the past few months, I've been engaging in deep discussions with my friends about the heightened focus on money over the last two years. We've been exploring whether it's linked to the fact that we're approaching our late twenties, witnessing peers buying homes, getting their lives in order, aiming to maximize income, and worrying about starting families. Perhaps the pressure stems from feeling financially outpaced by friends or being unable to keep up with their high cost dinners / activities.
I think that the desire for comfort has surged, creating a sense of entitlement to have the best of everything. When was it the norm to have all of the above, maybe you could've chosen 1 or 2 in the past if
you've done well.
- Vacations multiple times a year
- New Car
- Eating berries daily
- Eating out $50 -100+ meals 1-7x a week
- $100 - 400 Concerts and shows every 1 - 6 weeks
- Paying for entertainment or dates @ $30 - 100 1 - 3x a week
- Buying jewelry, watches and bags that are $5 - 20K+
- Owning a house before 30 in one of the highest cost of living cities
Social media bombards us with stories of friends doing this, while the algorithms feeds us YT shorts / Tiktoks on ideas of side hustles, investing, and optimizing personal finances. The pursuit of having the best often seems reserved for the 1-3% of income individuals aged 25 to 34. Even with a high income, you haven't worked long enough to create any substantial wealth.
So it seems like everyone wants to work 5 - 8 years to have the wealth of a 50+ year old but at 30 years old. Then are depressed when they can't do so lol.
You know there's two types of toilets right? The round type and the elongated type. I don't know why a round bowl is still a thing and why so many places have a round bowl, it simply does not fit.
I needa upgrade my toilet. It's like an oval but barely. Japanese toilets here I come, but no idea how to install an outlet for it.
Hondaracer
12-21-2023, 12:15 PM
Maybe that’s why there isn’t piss all over my floor because I’ve got the elongated..
Every thread on RS drifting to piss by the 5th page? Lol
Gerbs
12-21-2023, 12:20 PM
McDoubles and Jr Chickens when you were growing up? How old are you? I thought everyone here is in their 40s.
About that middle class thing - I think there's a difference between statistically middle class and what lifestyle feels middle class. For the latter I think there's a lot of lifestyle inflation that has happened and it's not realistic nor representative of the reality.
Like I have to remind my wife sometimes that we're actually rich (but not RICH) cause she talks about how expensive shit is and how we can't afford to do certain things but those are rich people things that she's talking about that just seems like regular people things. By the numbers we're rich, it just doesn't feel that way.
https://www03.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/hmip-pimh/en/TableMapChart/TableMatchingCriteria?GeographyType=Country&GeographyId=1&CategoryLevel1=Population%2C%20Households%20and%20 Housing%20Stock&CategoryLevel2=Household%20Income&ColumnField=HouseholdIncomeRange&RowField=Province&SearchTags%5B0%5D.Key=Households&SearchTags%5B0%5D.Value=Number&SearchTags%5B1%5D.Key=Statistics&SearchTags%5B1%5D.Value=AverageAndMedian
Average household income in Canada is $92k while median is $70k. I assume this data includes people who work part time etc so the number is probably a bit low (and $70k in a household is 2 min wage jobs). So middle class is something like 1 standard deviation on both sides so probably like $70-130k household income for the average Canadian household (figure 20-30% higher for Vancouver or Toronto)
That kind of household income is tough to live on but it's also middle class by the numbers.
I'm in mid to late 20's, there's at least 4 of us on RS. Most peep in 20's are struggling and losing hope. Some already starting the migration to AB.
The 4 on RS are driving S2000's, CTR's, Corvettes and Porsches. :lawl:
twitchyzero
12-21-2023, 12:21 PM
I think there's a difference between statistically middle class and what lifestyle feels middle class. For the latter I think there's a lot of lifestyle inflation that has happened and it's not realistic nor representative of the reality.
...
That kind of household income is tough to live on but it's also middle class by the numbers.
sure internet has heightened consumerism and maybe exacerbated keeping up with the joneses
but from my limited interactions the general concerns are all quite valid
ive also noticed less people are taking the week off between christmas and new year
inv4zn
12-21-2023, 12:31 PM
Gotta make sure you sit back far enough or you touch the toilet bowl
There's a term for this, and it's very apt - it's called "the witch's kiss".
There's also "Poseidon's Kiss", when water splashback from a plump of shit hits your ass.
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 12:38 PM
Another reason not to get circumcised trolololololol. Flap protects.
MarkyMark
12-21-2023, 12:51 PM
Getting a little pee on the rim of the toilet isn't a big deal I'll have to clean the whole underside of the seat from explosive diarrhea well before the buildup of dried piss becomes a problem.
Maybe I should rethink my diet.
EvoFire
12-21-2023, 12:53 PM
In the past few months, I've been engaging in deep discussions with my friends about the heightened focus on money over the last two years. We've been exploring whether it's linked to the fact that we're approaching our late twenties, witnessing peers buying homes, getting their lives in order, aiming to maximize income, and worrying about starting families. Perhaps the pressure stems from feeling financially outpaced by friends or being unable to keep up with their high cost dinners / activities.
I think that the desire for comfort has surged, creating a sense of entitlement to have the best of everything. When was it the norm to have all of the above, maybe you could've chosen 1 or 2 in the past if
you've done well.
- Vacations multiple times a year - Twice? One Whistler one cruise this year
- New Car - 4 and 5 year old now
- Eating berries daily - Kids do
- Eating out $50 -100+ meals 1-7x a week - Nope
- $100 - 400 Concerts and shows every 1 - 6 weeks - Nope
- Paying for entertainment or dates @ $30 - 100 1 - 3x a week - LOL we have kids
- Buying jewelry, watches and bags that are $5 - 20K+ - Nope
- Owning a house before 30 in one of the highest cost of living cities - Townhouse before 30, house at 34
Social media bombards us with stories of friends doing this, while the algorithms feeds us YT shorts / Tiktoks on ideas of side hustles, investing, and optimizing personal finances. The pursuit of having the best often seems reserved for the 1-3% of income individuals aged 25 to 34. Even with a high income, you haven't worked long enough to create any substantial wealth.
So it seems like everyone wants to work 5 - 8 years to have the wealth of a 50+ year old but at 30 years old. Then are depressed when they can't do so lol.
I needa upgrade my toilet. It's like an oval but barely. Japanese toilets here I come, but no idea how to install an outlet for it.
- Vacations multiple times a year - Twice? One Whistler one cruise this year
- New Car - 4 and 5 year old now
- Eating berries daily - Kids do
- Eating out $50 -100+ meals 1-7x a week - Nope
- $100 - 400 Concerts and shows every 1 - 6 weeks - Nope
- Paying for entertainment or dates @ $30 - 100 1 - 3x a week - LOL we have kids
- Buying jewelry, watches and bags that are $5 - 20K+ - Nope
- Owning a house before 30 in one of the highest cost of living cities - Townhouse before 30, house at 34
Based on this and the earlier scale, I'm like between doing ok and doing well. I still don't think I do considering I owe the bank a 7 figure sum.
And yes upgrade your toilet. You don't need the bidet just get the elongated bowl.
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 01:13 PM
Eating berries is a sign of wealth !?!? Somebody call manics cousins and have them bring 10 cases of blue blues to the next RS meat.
Gerbs
12-21-2023, 01:27 PM
Eating berries is a sign of wealth !?!? Somebody call manics cousins and have them bring 10 cases of blue blues to the next RS meat.
According to y'all parents and Reddit, these $10 berries are a luxury. $300/month if the kids eat 1 a day.
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 01:31 PM
Aren’t blue blues like 25 bucks for 10lbs. At least they are in Richmond. Then you just freeze the uneaten ones and you got berries all year
Hakkaboy
12-21-2023, 01:35 PM
I haven't seen her in years - was the ex there too? I only ever go on Saturdays so it's possible she works days when he isn't around (and I'm not). I know the divorce definitely happened - source is a family member of theirs.
my wife just saw both of them working yesterday.
As for the chicken, it got smaller than pre-covid, but they kind of make up for it slightly by giving you extra pieces whenever we go there
But yeah, it doesn't taste quite as good as b4. but we still don't mind going there
oh and for the ppl going there for the first time, do NOT order the regular chicken and ALWAYS go for the spicy/extra crispy. it's not even spicy but taste way better than the regular
SkinnyPupp
12-21-2023, 02:50 PM
I like having the guys over for UFC night or just to hop in the hot tub. I'll either cook or the GF will, good way to get together, and it's cheap.
Added bonus, have a nice bottle night, then you get a few left over bottles for the liquor cabinet. Win win.
Speaking about pissing and sitting down, I'm a big advocate of this when at home.
Why is it sissy if you sit on the toilet to piss in your own house as a dude? I'm not trying to hose my toilet down with piss out of this BBC, with all that water splashing around on the bathroom floor. The GF doesn't like it either.
Sit when you piss at home guys.
It's funny you point out to sit down specifically at home, because I'd never do it anywhere else either! EleGiggle
WTF is wrong with us?
I guess if you're not the one who has to clean it up (in our house, I have this duty), you just DGAF.
supafamous
12-21-2023, 04:03 PM
my wife just saw both of them working yesterday.
Damn, gonna have to tell my brother to lose some weight again and slide into her DMs.
Aren’t blue blues like 25 bucks for 10lbs. At least they are in Richmond. Then you just freeze the uneaten ones and you got berries all year
blueberries are cheap in season, super expensive out of season.
people who buy $6.99 tiny 200g clamshells of raspberries all year round is sorta ballin, or financially irresponsible.
It's funny you point out to sit down specifically at home, because I'd never do it anywhere else either! EleGiggle
WTF is wrong with us?
I guess if you're not the one who has to clean it up (in our house, I have this duty), you just DGAF.
i just dont like sitting on other ppls toilet seats unless i have to, but i always wipe the rim of the bowl w/ tp after i pee in someones toilet. only time idgaf is when im in a public washroom
Badhobz
12-21-2023, 06:15 PM
blueberries are cheap in season, super expensive out of season.
people who buy $6.99 tiny 200g clamshells of raspberries all year round is sorta ballin, or financially irresponsible.
Wat?! 7 bucks ain’t expensive. 91 dollars for 3 lousy steaks from Costco seems more expensive.
I’m sure per gram the berries are more but honestly how much berries can you eat. They aren’t even good off season. All the blue blue are from South America right now and they taste like shit. The skin is plasticky and insides are sour.
Hondaracer
12-21-2023, 08:52 PM
I’m so poor I can’t afford berries from 1800 km away :(
lol
BIC_BAWS
12-21-2023, 09:20 PM
91 dollars for 3 lousy steaks from Costco seems more expensive. It's that expensive now?! I've planned for doing two dinners about 8 people each. I was going to go to Costco tomorrow cause this thread reminded me of something important.
I've never been a big fan of holidays. My family has never done anything for holidays (or birthdays) so it's just another day. This is likely because we were too poor to do so. With that being said, I've come to realize the holidays isn't really about the glamour (despite everyone's IG story looking like it).
I think this year I've (unintentionally) focused more on spending time with people I love and those that appreciate me. I no longer spend time or effort on people who can't give me the time of day. This includes people who don't reach out, reply, or actually commit to plans instead of "lets go ___ sometime" (aka never). For the holiday season, despite it being relatively tight for me, I want to treat those around me with a steak dinner. I think it's important to me to celebrate these moments.
whitev70r
12-21-2023, 09:30 PM
my wife just saw both of them working yesterday.
the spicy/extra crispy. it's not even spicy but taste way better than the regular
Damn, gonna have to tell my brother to lose some weight again and slide into her DMs.
Is this her? From LA Chicken's FB photos
https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306994174_1561636277583884_724154222543271806_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=8XUTkHzlnNEAX93ZyZl&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=00_AfAer3lHGfrvhGpl0OBT82xvUqgkgb9mkOnsI8xL2MbN fA&oe=658ABA98
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1561636067583905&set=pcb.1561636247583887
SSM_DC5
12-21-2023, 09:35 PM
It's funny you point out to sit down specifically at home, because I'd never do it anywhere else either! EleGiggle
WTF is wrong with us?
I guess if you're not the one who has to clean it up (in our house, I have this duty), you just DGAF.
Have you peeps not heard of hovering?
SkinnyPupp
12-21-2023, 10:06 PM
Have you peeps not heard of hovering?
Now that's gay
Hondaracer
12-22-2023, 06:09 AM
Clearly some of you softies have never worked in construction.
Try a Porto potty on the 45th floor of Trump tower on the 5th day of use before cleaning lol..it’s stuff of nightmares.
Wat?! 7 bucks ain’t expensive. 91 dollars for 3 lousy steaks from Costco seems more expensive.
I’m sure per gram the berries are more but honestly how much berries can you eat. They aren’t even good off season. All the blue blue are from South America right now and they taste like shit. The skin is plasticky and insides are sour.
i mean a half pint of berries for $7 is like $14/lb. when you can buy them for $2-3lb in season that's a crazy markup. if it's just to finish your salad then sure, but i wouldn't buy them just to snack on a few dozen berries.
also i'm not a huge raspberry guy but i can easily eat over 1lb of blueberries in a sitting in the summertime
i used to live within walking distance to LA chicken, that's definitely her. maybe i'm getting old but she cleans up kinda ok? never thought i'd be saying that. she kinda gives you an intense look when you are talking to her that always weirded me out, but they almost always give you an extra piece and back in those days i could get a 3pc combo for like maybe $11-12.
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 07:14 AM
Yeah man. She cleans up pretty good. She looked even better like 10 years ago but she was always just covered in chicken grease.
Get a picture of the dude though, he just looks depressed all the time.
68style
12-22-2023, 07:20 AM
I'm immune to this berry eating you are discussing... mostly because I have some kind of weird allergic reaction to raspberries and, randomly, blueberries... like it feels like knives are being stabbed into my stomach after I eat either of them and then things get explosive.
Raspberries 100% of the time... blueberries are russian roulette though.
Hondaracer
12-22-2023, 07:23 AM
i mean a half pint of berries for $7 is like $14/lb. when you can buy them for $2-3lb in season that's a crazy markup. if it's just to finish your salad then sure, but i wouldn't buy them just to snack on a few dozen berries.
also i'm not a huge raspberry guy but i can easily eat over 1lb of blueberries in a sitting in the summertime
It’s not really a markup, it’s the difference between coming from Abbotsford or Argentina lol
supafamous
12-22-2023, 07:39 AM
i used to live within walking distance to LA chicken, that's definitely her. maybe i'm getting old but she cleans up kinda ok? never thought i'd be saying that. she kinda gives you an intense look when you are talking to her that always weirded me out, but they almost always give you an extra piece and back in those days i could get a 3pc combo for like maybe $11-12.
Yeah man. She cleans up pretty good. She looked even better like 10 years ago but she was always just covered in chicken grease.
Get a picture of the dude though, he just looks depressed all the time.
Talking about whether Chicken Lady is hot is worse than talking about sitting down to pee. I can only think of her as the lady who makes my fried chicken - sure, I used to get her a Xmas gift when we went there all the time but she's still just the Chicken Lady. Next thing we'll talking about whether BBQ Master is kinda handsome and you'd go gay for him.
It’s not really a markup, it’s the difference between coming from Abbotsford or Argentina lol
yeah thats what i meant, not literal price gouging
Talking about whether Chicken Lady is hot is worse than talking about sitting down to pee. I can only think of her as the lady who makes my fried chicken - sure, I used to get her a Xmas gift when we went there all the time but she's still just the Chicken Lady. Next thing we'll talking about whether BBQ Master is kinda handsome and you'd go gay for him.
idk man that does seem kinda different lol
murd0c
12-22-2023, 07:51 AM
all of this talk about sitting down to piss and its great, I do it at home no questions mainly to get away from the gf and to mess around on my phone. I swear the gf thinks I shit a good 5x a day LOL
whitev70r
12-22-2023, 07:59 AM
Get a picture of the dude though, he just looks depressed all the time.
Bonus if you zoom in of grease covered ex-wifey.
https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/471_10154024535088679_4282953376753551557_n.jpg?_n c_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd63ad&_nc_ohc=UOZLOyq6_JUAX-yGlzj&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=00_AfARoJ4OYzhY0N2MSRa506m216yIlAixNHT_vDFcTHVo 3A&oe=65AD2B4C
Hondaracer
12-22-2023, 08:01 AM
lol fuck
murd0c
12-22-2023, 08:09 AM
The look on his face is great haha
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 08:13 AM
That’s not a look. That’s his usual face. Like every time I see him he looks like this.
That lady on the other hand, every time she handed me the chicken she was like “ITS REaDY !!!!!!” And her eyes are like extra large as she fantasizes about me rubbing the chicken all over my fat ass….. what ?! I’m not crazy. You’re crazy
underscore
12-22-2023, 08:20 AM
Wat?! 7 bucks ain’t expensive. 91 dollars for 3 lousy steaks from Costco seems more expensive.
I’m sure per gram the berries are more but honestly how much berries can you eat. They aren’t even good off season. All the blue blue are from South America right now and they taste like shit. The skin is plasticky and insides are sour.
Adults? Not many. Toddlers? By the truckload. They're savages when it comes to berries.
spoon.ek9
12-22-2023, 08:37 AM
I like how this thread has devolved into pissing habits and chicken lady fetishes :lol
back on topic, I've never been what anyone would consider rich. I probably noticed some friends struggling a bit financially when going out in my early 30's. whenever i did notice it, i'd just cover them for things, no questions or expectations because that's just what friends do. as long as they're appreciative and grateful i have no issues sharing what little "wealth" i have.
we live in an expensive ass city but that doesn't mean your daily costs need to be high. being in richmond, there's plenty of value for money if you look for it. seems like some of you eat like monsters but the best deal i can think of (for quite some years now) is a meal from bubble waffle cafe. decent food and a drink is included. even with recent price increases it's only $12.76 for a meal after taxes lol (given you order online for 10% off). if your portion control is good, you can easily split the meal into two because they give you so damn much. i often wonder how they even make a profit with the portion size and stamps towards free bubble waffles :suspicious:
anyways, over the years i've learned to not compare myself to others when it comes to income. if i'm content with my normal pay or reaching for the stars with OT then i'm doing pretty good and no external pressures will change my opinion of myself. it's me against me and i like to think i'm doing pretty good given my personal circumstances.
murd0c
12-22-2023, 08:42 AM
it sounds like the chicken lady wants a bite of Badhobz spring roll
Are her legs and thighs on the menu too?
Also, this thread is the manliest of threads I've encountered on here
Poor Peenut Butter
EvoFire
12-22-2023, 08:51 AM
i used to live within walking distance to LA chicken, that's definitely her. maybe i'm getting old but she cleans up kinda ok? never thought i'd be saying that. she kinda gives you an intense look when you are talking to her that always weirded me out, but they almost always give you an extra piece and back in those days i could get a 3pc combo for like maybe $11-12.
Yeah man. She cleans up pretty good. She looked even better like 10 years ago but she was always just covered in chicken grease.
Get a picture of the dude though, he just looks depressed all the time.
:stfu::ohgodwhy::seriously:
EvoFire
12-22-2023, 08:52 AM
Are her legs and thighs on the menu too?
Also, this thread is the manliest of threads I've encountered on here
Poor Peenut Butter
Dude not you too, stay in Alberta and don't come back :lol
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 09:19 AM
man you just cant handle the fact that chicken lady has a thing for fat fucks. That or she's trying to make everyone fat and thus giving out extra pieces
you being the super skinny bruce lee looking motherfucker aint getting any love from chicken lady.
EvoFire
12-22-2023, 09:23 AM
Maybe you are right, I've gotten nothing from LA Chicken despite going all the time
CivicBlues
12-22-2023, 09:27 AM
or maybe she's got a thing for fat fucks because you fat fucks keep going back for more fat business because she keeps on giving you fucking extras you fat fucks!
Hondaracer
12-22-2023, 09:45 AM
It’s a vicious cycle
mikemhg
12-22-2023, 10:53 AM
You know there's two types of toilets right? The round type and the elongated type. I don't know why a round bowl is still a thing and why so many places have a round bowl, it simply does not fit.
Nothing worse than the tip of your meat dipping into the cold piss and poop filled toilet water... :pokerface:
Less of a problem nowadays with these water conserving toilets, the water is much lower.
mikemhg
12-22-2023, 11:14 AM
Manic! How did you finish all that?!
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1240022_10153735824150042_1596043247644712692_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd63ad&_nc_ohc=G51Ls0LK45UAX9iBgUr&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDMaewwNgLk_ggPEOPWUkRbLoIzLadvlXxxtCJpanuX rw&oe=65AD51C1
Hondaracer
12-22-2023, 12:36 PM
Bwahahaha
pastarocket
12-22-2023, 12:42 PM
That fried chicken and fries are at LA Chicken?
Chicken lady fried those legs and thighs good. :thumbsup:
Dude not you too, stay in Alberta and don't come back :lol
I actually lived in Richmond for 3 years and never had LA :lol
I don't even care for fried chicken tbh, except for sandwiches :alone:
Manic! How did you finish all that?!
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1240022_10153735824150042_1596043247644712692_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd63ad&_nc_ohc=G51Ls0LK45UAX9iBgUr&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDMaewwNgLk_ggPEOPWUkRbLoIzLadvlXxxtCJpanuX rw&oe=65AD51C1
And now I'm never eating fried chicken again...
CivicBlues
12-22-2023, 01:12 PM
Why is it called LA Chicken anyways? Are they originally from LA? They're Flips right?
They should rename it Thighland.
underscore
12-22-2023, 02:34 PM
Nothing worse than the tip of your meat dipping into the cold piss and poop filled toilet water... :pokerface:
Less of a problem nowadays with these water conserving toilets, the water is much lower.
Yes that is definitely a common problem that we can all relate to. :pokerface:
winson604
12-22-2023, 03:24 PM
Why is it called LA Chicken anyways? Are they originally from LA? They're Flips right?
They should rename it Thighland.
Wondered as well but no idea but I do know it used to be Lees Chicken before it became LA Chicken. As for the owners they definitely don't look Flip to me I would say Chinese or Taiwanese if I had to guess.
Gumby
12-22-2023, 03:32 PM
Manic! How did you finish all that?!
That can't be Manic - there isn't a Tesla in the background.
supafamous
12-22-2023, 03:49 PM
Why is it called LA Chicken anyways? Are they originally from LA? They're Flips right?
They should rename it Thighland.
Wondered as well but no idea but I do know it used to be Lees Chicken before it became LA Chicken. As for the owners they definitely don't look Flip to me I would say Chinese or Taiwanese if I had to guess.
Yeah, it used to be a franchise of Lee's Chicken (https://www.leesfamousrecipe.com) which is in the American south. There were 2 locations in Richmond starting in about 1992 and there's one over on the island around Duncan. When they stopped being a franchise they renamed to LA Chicken but kept making the same food.
Owners are Cantonese.
lowside67
12-22-2023, 03:49 PM
Not to talk about income disparity in the weird bullshit chicken thread, but if you feel it is pronounced at 40, it is going to be significantly worse at 50 and seriously wild at 60.
On average, every 10 years our stock portfolio is expected to grow 2.0-2.5x, and I expect real estate to grow 1.5-2.0x in the same time period. Throw in some modest leverage, reduce for taxes, and it means that every 10 years, I expect our family net worth to grow 2-3x.
Playing that math out, it means if you have a $500k net worth at 30, you have a $1.0-$1.5M net worth at 40, a $2.0-$4.5M net worth at 50, a $4.0M-$13.5M net worth at 60 and so on.
Those sound like wild numbers, but a $500k net worth at 30 is a professional couple who each had a 1BR condo and few RRSPs before they got married. Certainly isn't everybody, but it isn't Warren Buffett either.
The power of compound growth for people who actually invest early starts a ball rolling that you basically can't earn your way to catching up, and is why families that have some wealth to transition between generations end up SO MUCH wealthier in only 1-2 generations.
-Mark
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 04:10 PM
so uhhh when im 60, i better start that hooker and cocaine binder early otherwise i wont be able to blow through all of it RIGHT!? RIGHT!?!?!?!
Just turned 40 so sounds about right and what I did in my mid 30's. If it wasn't for the pandemic with stocks and RE prices taking off to these levels, I don't think it would have been possible to reach those numbers though
JDMDreams
12-22-2023, 05:12 PM
Who else can't afford to rebuy the place they live in right now at market price? :okay: :notbad:
supafamous
12-22-2023, 06:26 PM
Who else can't afford to rebuy the place they live in right now at market price? :okay: :notbad:
I don't think I would qualify at current stress test levels (7.34% last I checked) for my house even at the price I paid much less the current market value. I'd have to liquidate a good chunk of my investments to make it work.
supafamous
12-22-2023, 06:28 PM
Remember how like 2 months ago we were arguing over whether Taylor Swift was hot and now we're down to discussing if Chicken Lady cleans up ok in between posts about sitting to pee? I'll trade this topic for a discussion of Sydney Sweeney's boobs and whether she is a butterface.
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 07:03 PM
That’s why RS is the best. Da best !!!
supafamous
12-22-2023, 07:30 PM
That’s why RS is the best. Da best !!!
Just don't tell us how often you've spanked it to Chicken Lady since we started talking about it.
lowside67
12-22-2023, 07:35 PM
Just turned 40 so sounds about right and what I did in my mid 30's. If it wasn't for the pandemic with stocks and RE prices taking off to these levels, I don't think it would have been possible to reach those numbers though
Stock market requires an average 7% annual return, after costs, to double every 10 years. If you can do 9.5% annually, you'll do 2.5x in 10 years. These are definitely possible numbers.
Real estate needs 4-7% net of costs, unlevered, to achieve 1.5-2.0x in 10 years. Also pretty realistic I believe.
-Mark
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 07:56 PM
Just don't tell us how often you've spanked it to Chicken Lady since we started talking about it.
Omg that greasy temptress !!! Get outta my dreams and into my bucket …. Eruhhh…. Tin foil tray.
whitev70r
12-22-2023, 08:04 PM
Anyone try Shawn's Chicken? On No.3 Road ...looks decent! Not sure about the owners, servers, or cook though.
https://www.shawnschicken.ca/
Badhobz
12-22-2023, 08:57 PM
I’ve been going to Shawn’s since they opened. I would say it’s the best chicken in Richmond right now IF you like spicy chicken. This spice taste a bit like the ma-la spicy from Chinese hotpot or those skewers.
Try it !
donk.
12-22-2023, 09:50 PM
Income disparity has never went in the way of my friends
Income disparity will always exist between any two people, and furthermore spending disparity even more so
Sure it may set some friends back on not coming out to events / 4 day getaways, 100$ lunches, but that has nothing to do with making an effort to hang out at Uncle Fatties pizza for 11$ and then going for a drive with the roof down to talk shit
Whoever mentioned you have a friend that owes everyone money, thats not a friend, thats a freeloader that is making 0 effort to pay people back.
On side topic of shit friends, unfortunately ive had two buddies that i useto be super close with. Go to tim hortons twice a week for donuts, do stupid car shit, install exhausts, sit at the pool hot tubs, etc.
But when they got pussy, they would disappear and give bullshit excuses. Both of them, the last time, i did not see for an entire year, and i would always initiate a "yo lets go for a drive, etc" and get the same "i gotta cook my baby dinner" excuse.
Fuck those guys, cut them out of my life. Those arent friends, those are people who use you when they are lonely, and disappear when they get a girlfriend.
Its sad, but my own mental health is better off without them.
Point being, if these money moochers seem like shit friends, let them go, if you think their are being genuine, then pay for their meals for being a great friend regardless of their income/spending/saving situation.
/Rant?
EvoFire
12-22-2023, 10:32 PM
Who else can't afford to rebuy the place they live in right now at market price? :okay: :notbad:
I can't even buy my place right now at the price I got it for, nevermind market.
BIC_BAWS
12-22-2023, 10:57 PM
Fuck those guys, cut them out of my life. Those arent friends, those are people who use you when they are lonely, and disappear when they get a girlfriend.
Its sad, but my own mental health is better off without them.
Point being, if these money moochers seem like shit friends, let them go, if you think their are being genuine, then pay for their meals for being a great friend regardless of their income/spending/saving situation.
/Rant?
I have a female friend like that. Every time she gets a new bf, she disappears and doesn't reply. We've been friends every since we were kids, but this is one of the people I was talking about when I said:
I no longer spend time or effort on people who can't give me the time of day. This includes people who don't reach out, reply, or actually commit to plans instead of "lets go ___ sometime" (aka never)
It sucks. But if you can't respect me enough to reply, I'm not gonna bother.
It's that expensive now?! I've planned for doing two dinners about 8 people each. I was going to go to Costco tomorrow cause this thread reminded me of something important.
So I attempted to go to Richmond Costco today at 2PM and I didn't know it was winter solstice. It was fucked. It was actual fucking gridlock. No one was willing to give courtesy so people couldnt get out of their parking spots and people couldn't get into the lot. It was like tetris for cars. After about 15 mins, I was like fuck this I'm going to the butchers. Well.. I ended up spending $300 at the butcher's lol. $40/lb for dry-aged rib eye steak from Seafair Meats. I got 7lbs.
RabidRat
12-23-2023, 01:51 AM
I’ve been going to Shawn’s since they opened. I would say it’s the best chicken in Richmond right now IF you like spicy chicken. This spice taste a bit like the ma-la spicy from Chinese hotpot or those skewers.
Try it !
Fuuuu, between you and BIC_BAWS, my stomach is growling.
Emailed myself the link to this post just now: going straight here next time I'm in Vancouver.
Does it taste anything like Chef James' night market lamb skewers? I miss the shit out of that.
Badhobz
12-23-2023, 06:33 AM
Yes. Yes it does.
Same spices as those skewers but on a crispy piece of fried goodness.
Traum
12-23-2023, 07:46 AM
So I attempted to go to Richmond Costco today at 2PM and I didn't know it was winter solstice. It was fucked. It was actual fucking gridlock. No one was willing to give courtesy so people couldnt get out of their parking spots and people couldn't get into the lot. It was like tetris for cars. After about 15 mins, I was like fuck this I'm going to the butchers. Well.. I ended up spending $300 at the butcher's lol. $40/lb for dry-aged rib eye steak from Seafair Meats. I got 7lbs.
I am finding that Richmond Costco is basically a shxt show every single time I go, so I tend to avoid it as much as possible. And even when I go, I don't ever attempt to park in the parking lot because I know it is just gonna be a shxt show like you described.
I would even go as far as to say that Still Creek is frequently reaching capacity in terms of the number of customers it can serve. The parking lot is almost always full, but at least the manager there is sending staff out to direct some traffic., and most drivers there aren't dicks.
EvoFire
12-23-2023, 08:21 AM
I am finding that Richmond Costco is basically a shxt show every single time I go, so I tend to avoid it as much as possible. And even when I go, I don't ever attempt to park in the parking lot because I know it is just gonna be a shxt show like you described.
I would even go as far as to say that Still Creek is frequently reaching capacity in terms of the number of customers it can serve. The parking lot is almost always full, but at least the manager there is sending staff out to direct some traffic., and most drivers there aren't dicks.
Go to Richmond at 9am on weekends, and get out by 1030, it's actually relatively stress free
supafamous
12-23-2023, 09:10 AM
I am finding that Richmond Costco is basically a shxt show every single time I go, so I tend to avoid it as much as possible. And even when I go, I don't ever attempt to park in the parking lot because I know it is just gonna be a shxt show like you described.
I would even go as far as to say that Still Creek is frequently reaching capacity in terms of the number of customers it can serve. The parking lot is almost always full, but at least the manager there is sending staff out to direct some traffic., and most drivers there aren't dicks.
Went to Still Creek yesterday around 10am and the car lineup went out onto Willingdon (blocking the HOV lane). I went around the long way and was able to park in the fire lane in the back instead but it was definitely a zoo in there.
Agree with you that Still Creek is reaching capacity though - even mornings or dinner time are getting pretty packed nowadays.
spoon.ek9
12-23-2023, 10:15 AM
Call me a peasant but I enjoy home parties more than going out. It's not even about cost either, you can have actual conversations with your group of friends vs yelling at each other in a restaurant/bar. I find it more meaningful and we connect better when we're at someone's home. Plus, with me being single/no kids my place is always available so I am happy to host.
JDMDreams
12-23-2023, 10:21 AM
^^ but the cactus titties bro
hotjoint
12-23-2023, 12:28 PM
Why does a hangout always need to involve some sort of expensive outing?
I invite my buddies to my house, they bring a case of beer. We drink the beer and shoot the shit in the back yard for several hours. That's all we need to do.
Maybe my parents rubbed off on me, because this is how they'd hang out with family/friends all while I was growing up. Whatever night either they were the guest, or they were the host. They'd bring a bottle, beer, and just blab away for hours, often solving the world's problems. If that family had kids, they'd drag us along so we could play too.
It was extremely rare that they'd ever make some sort of external activity with other people.
I prefer doing this vs going out any day. Have people over, eat, drink and chill in a comfy environment. No pressure to spend a ton of money.
SSM_DC5
12-23-2023, 12:54 PM
As a host, cleaning up pre and post sucks.
winson604
12-23-2023, 02:38 PM
As a host, cleaning up pre and post sucks.
If you don't care use as many paper plates etc as possible, does help a lot.
Hondaracer
12-23-2023, 02:39 PM
I’m not rich enough to recycle
Badhobz
12-23-2023, 04:12 PM
I’m too lazy to recycle. I just throw everything in a black garbage bag and hope they don’t check.
Hondaracer
12-23-2023, 07:04 PM
All ends up in the same place anyways.
Too bad for everyone’s kids hehe :troll:
SkinnyPupp
12-23-2023, 07:31 PM
If everyone in the world was perfect at recycling, they'd make like a 1% difference compared to industrial pollution.
I think Japan does a decent job with separating combustible garbage though
Badhobz
12-23-2023, 07:33 PM
Well my garbage menz never say anything because I guess they it makes no difference . They know damn well my shit is filled full or organics, plastics, glass, cardboard etc etc .
I’ve been throwing shit out like this for years and they never said anything. Hell I threw a microwave in my trash last time and they didn’t even care
bcrdukes
12-23-2023, 08:11 PM
How dare you for not returning the microwave to Costco!!!!
Hondaracer
12-23-2023, 08:29 PM
I propose a “most fucked up shit you can get away with” challenge
15L of used motor oil in a garbage can anyone?
TOS'd
12-23-2023, 08:49 PM
I had popeyes today, but the 10pc family meal is now $40+tax. I remember when it was $30 :(
spoon.ek9
12-23-2023, 08:53 PM
I've only ever tried Popeyes twice. I was disappointed both times. Jollibee however, is fantastic! Love their spicy and it has taken over as my favourite which used to be Church's spicy. Plus, those fucking peach mango pies are a god send :sweetjesus:
Badhobz
12-23-2023, 09:14 PM
Cuz Jollie beeeee is made by the best people on the planet. Filipinonononononos
Badhobz
12-24-2023, 05:47 AM
I propose a “most fucked up shit you can get away with” challenge
15L of used motor oil in a garbage can anyone?
What ? That’s not for garbage.
I thought I’m suppose to find a manhole with a picture of salmon on it and dump it right in there. Then throw the bottle at a raccoon
spoon.ek9
12-24-2023, 07:27 AM
all this chicken talk, are we doing an RS Jollibee meet or what??
68style
12-24-2023, 10:02 AM
I thought we were all going to go to LA Chicken and inform the lady there that we have come from all over the lower mainland to assemble in front of her so that she may choose her suitor from amongst us. If there is a tie, a duel shall take place in the parking lot to win her hand.
supafamous
12-24-2023, 10:29 AM
I thought we were all going to go to LA Chicken and inform the lady there that we have come from all over the lower mainland to assemble in front of her so that she may choose her suitor from amongst us. If there is a tie, a duel shall take place in the parking lot to win her hand.
Jesse Palmer: Tonight on Fried Chicken Bachelorette...the bachelors squabble for parking spots and bicker over picnic tables across the street but tonight's stunning surprise <Chicken Man shows up with flowers and printouts of what the guys on RS have said about Chicken Lady> may change everything! Will Chicken Lady take back Chicken Man or will she send him off in pursuit of a new Chicken Bachelor?
spoon.ek9
12-24-2023, 11:28 AM
Ya'll going to LA cuz you thirsty. I'm going to Jollibee because I'm hungry :lol
SSM_DC5
12-24-2023, 11:35 AM
all this chicken talk, are we doing an RS Jollibee meet or what??
Treat us cuz we can't keep up with your OT money. :pokerface:
Gerbs
12-24-2023, 01:33 PM
I was like fuck this I'm going to the butchers. Well.. I ended up spending $300 at the butcher's lol. $40/lb for dry-aged rib eye steak from Seafair Meats. I got 7lbs.
I ended up doing the same, during holidays, that 30 - 1.5 hour grind to get some cheaper rib eye ain't worth it. Butchers for $20 - 40/lb is better all day long, no wait!
mikemhg
12-24-2023, 01:58 PM
I thought we were all going to go to LA Chicken and inform the lady there that we have come from all over the lower mainland to assemble in front of her so that she may choose her suitor from amongst us. If there is a tie, a duel shall take place in the parking lot to win her hand.
Can we use our swords? I got Cialis for everyone.
SkinnyPupp
12-24-2023, 03:14 PM
I'm down for a sword measuring contest to win a chicken lady
Badhobz
12-24-2023, 04:56 PM
If somebody links her this thread she’ll either call the cops or be utterly flattered (maybe both?)
Nice group of middle age men to choose from. Although everyone knows she’ll just make a fucking B line towards 69style’z drumstick. Just like friggin last time and every time.
That ex husband of hers is gonna come out shooting though. We all gonna be on the news
spoon.ek9
12-25-2023, 08:03 AM
Treat us cuz we can't keep up with your OT money. :pokerface:
the reason i work so much OT is because i'm poor lol. I'll do a round of peach mango pies though :pokerface:
Badhobz
12-25-2023, 09:25 AM
Is there another Jolliebee location besides downtown !? Parking blows downtown
PeanutButter
12-25-2023, 10:02 AM
Is it confirmed that chicken lady is the wife of grumpy old man?
spoon.ek9
12-25-2023, 10:05 AM
Is there another Jolliebee location besides downtown !? Parking blows downtown
There's one in Surrey I've been to. I've heard rumors from downtown staff that they have plans to open a location in Richmond. Which, obviously they should given how many Filipinos we have here lol.
supafamous
12-25-2023, 11:26 AM
Is it confirmed that chicken lady is the wife of grumpy old man?
Ex-wife, they divorced 4-5 years ago. Guy I worked with was married into the family. Said Xmas dinners were super awkward for a while.
supafamous
12-25-2023, 11:28 AM
Is there another Jolliebee location besides downtown !? Parking blows downtown
3 locations - Granville street (no seating), Cambie/Broadway (has seating), and Surrey (Surrey Central). There's supposed to be one opening on Dec 30th at Strawberry Hill which would have parking.
BIC_BAWS
12-25-2023, 07:23 PM
I ended up doing the same, during holidays, that 30 - 1.5 hour grind to get some cheaper rib eye ain't worth it. Butchers for $20 - 40/lb is better all day long, no wait!
I did two steaks for my family today. Got the Angus Beef Certified rib eye from Superstore.
My pallet is honestly not refined enough to taste the difference between 21 day dry aged ribeye and a pack of meat from Superstore - and for a period of time I ate steak for 3 months in a row. (Freshco meat) Granted, I use the sous-vide for all my steaks and I've been able to get tender meat from the worst and the most tough meats from freshco lol.
hud 91gt
12-25-2023, 07:47 PM
Back on the meat topic. What’s the deal with Australian meat. Ribeye/Prime Rib was on sale at Choices. $10.99/kg. Hormone free yadda yadda…. Definitely smaller cow than our stores…. How do the aussies grow cows? I know on the island Country Grocer sellers a lot of Aussie beef.
SkinnyPupp
12-25-2023, 09:20 PM
Aussie meat is great, it's all I eat when I want good beef. Either that or NZ. If I'm being cheap (for stew or curry), it's Brazil. Never China or local, ever. That meat comes off the cow in jerky form LUL
There is shitty Australian beef though, and they have a "Wagyu" brand that isn't really like Japanese "Wagyu"
underscore
12-26-2023, 01:35 PM
I do know the free range cows they showed when Top Gear UK did their Aussie road trip looked a heck of a lot skinnier than the ones I see wandering around in the bush here.
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