[spoon.ek9]

I was at Aberdeen Centre yesterday (29Jun2024 around 15:00) and fully witnessed a dumbass lady crash into two cars while backing out of her parking spot. I noticed that she left scuffs on your rear bumper. Her car was silver in colour and I took a photo (Silver Dodge, license plate TJ5 83N).

The guy in the first car she hit, let her go. I guess they thought there was no damage so they didn't exchange info. Your car however, had silver paint transfer on black plastic cover of your rear bumper. Your car looks new and well taken care of so the damage was instantly noticeable.

Anyways, I'll phone ICBC and provide them with the same details. I know I'd be choked if someone hit and run me like that and no one did anything to try and help. Hopefully you or a friend of yours reads this post.

Update:

I've reported the incident to ICBC online. Also managed identify the silver car as being a 2007-2009 Dodge Caliber. Hopefully some good comes out of this.

[Badhobz]

Dodge ?! So not Chinese ?

[spoon.ek9]

Oh she was most definitely Chinese (or at least Asian). Fucking embarrassing :facepalm:

her back seat was full of shit so maybe that's why she couldn't see clearly while backing up.

[radeonboy]

I might have a lead - DM me the WRX's license plate # if you have that handy.

[spoon.ek9]

problem is I didn't take a photo of the WRX's license plate. have a look at the rear bumper and see if there's any noticeable scuffs. If they were at Aberdeen yesterday, it's more than likely their car.

[spoon.ek9]

Totally forgot to look in my junk mail for ICBC's response. They've asked for my driver's license number (even though I'm not one of the vehicles involved lol). I'm guessing there was a claim made that they were able to tie my witness statement to?

Guess I'll find out sooner or later :considered:

[spoon.ek9]

there is indeed a claim number now. looks like shitty aunty is going to see some consequences for her actions!

[PeanutButter]

In instances like this, the person who hits and runs. Is there any consequences for this type of action?

Or does this lady who left, just get charged with an accident on her record and then she pays both deductibles?

because if there are no consequences, what's the point of staying at the scene besides being a good citizen/person? Best case, you leave without a record on your driving history, worst case you have to own up for your mistake without any real consequence.

[Badhobz]

Hopefully her insurance premium goes up for having a “at fault” incident. But everyone gets that one freebie and it’s a sliding scale now. Given her limited economic means (driving a dodge caliber you peasant) this might hurt her quite a bit.

[Hondaracer]

I’m sure there’s very little to no consequences.

I also love how the beaucracy ties up Spoon, the unrelated good bystander who actually reports it now and drags him into all the BS and has his DL number now associated with this accident. Kinda goes to show it doesn’t pay either way, to be the driver and stay around/report, nor the witness to help the individual who’s vehicle was hit

[spoon.ek9]

I'm only doing it because it'll help the innocent Subaru owner. I'd hope for the same if it was my car!

[GLOW]

Totally forgot to look in my junk mail for ICBC's response. They've asked for my driver's license number (even though I'm not one of the vehicles involved lol). I'm guessing there was a claim made that they were able to tie my witness statement to?

Guess I'll find out sooner or later :considered:

is that mandatory? seems odd you need that when you're a witness. you'd think at best a name and contact # is all you need.

[Teriyaki]

is that mandatory? seems odd you need that when you're a witness. you'd think at best a name and contact # is all you need.

Immediate thought goes to, just to ensure that witness reports are accountable and tied to an actual individual.
It could be to prevent some jag-offs from false claiming a bunch of falsified witness reports under multiple "names, and random phone numbers"

[bcrdukes]

is that mandatory? seems odd you need that when you're a witness. you'd think at best a name and contact # is all you need.

Not sure if mandatory, but when I stepped up to be a witness to an accident where a couple who got hit by a reckless driver, ICBC did ask me for my drivers license. This was probably 18 years ago. :badpokerface:

Edit: I should clarify - I only reported by phone. There was no online option back then. :pokerface:

[radeonboy]

I submitted an online witness report recently and the form didn't ask for my DL. However, it did ask for my home address which they can easily match to my DL.

https://onlinebusiness.icbc.com/eforms/dotcom/jsp/witness_information.jsp

[Hondaracer]

A friend of mine works for Vancouver school board and one day he was working across the street from a storm drain that was badly backed up and creating a huge puddle that eventually started running over the curb and into a guys garage. He knocked on the door but no one was home so he called the city and reported it, at the end they ask for his name and phone number, he says wtf do you need my name and phone number for, you have the information, do what you want with it.

No one ever came the entire day and the guys garage was full of water, he figured the case was never processed because they didn’t have contact info..

Another time a friend and I were driving down the hwy 1 between Langley and Surrey and there was a fucking will sized couch in the middle Lane, it was also dark so it came up on us very quickly and we had to swerve out of the way. I right away called 911 and told them there’s a fucking couch and someone is going to slam into it any minute, get a cop out there. Again, asked me for all this info I was like uhh..ok..

A week later a cop phones me, “is this hondaracer?? You called in the couch? Ok *click”

Makes me very hesitant to do the right thing when I feel like it’s going to bite me in the ass somehow

[AzNightmare]

Makes me very hesitant to do the right thing when I feel like it’s going to bite me in the ass somehow


One time we saw a mattress in the middle of the highway in Richmond, like right in the middle of that interchange in where it connects from 91 onto Knight street bridge north bound.

Pretty dangerous since it's in the middle of a big turn.

I think it took my wife almost 15 mins just to make a simple report because of all the questions that seem irrelevant... Made us feel like never reporting something again.

[coneZONE]

It took me 2hrs of waiting on hold for me to report a mitchell’s tow truck that fucked up a crosstrek that he was towing away from a crash, didnt put on dollies. Heard aloud bang three blocks away and confronted him.

I dont even remember if i got a “thank you” letter from ICBC for that one lol
That’s all you get, is a thank you letter. No bonus discount somewhere lol. Just wasted hours of my time

[AzNightmare]

I’m sure there’s very little to no consequences.

I also love how the beaucracy ties up Spoon, the unrelated good bystander who actually reports it now and drags him into all the BS and has his DL number now associated with this accident. Kinda goes to show it doesn’t pay either way, to be the driver and stay around/report, nor the witness to help the individual who’s vehicle was hit

Unless the system has changed in the past few years, it seems like nothing really happens unless a report is filed with the police, which is a separate thing that the victim has to file themselves. ICBC doesn't deal with it.

I've had an unlucky phase where my car got hit-and-run multiple times within a span of a few years while it was parked. Had to deal with ICBC a bit too many times. The adjuster seems to keep everything pretty confidential about the other party. Only one adjuster went the extra mile to instruct me to file a police report because they were upset for me and wanted me to really "get him". I was like, what?? you mean this whole time, those other cases, nothing happened to the culprits?

Mind you, I had a dashcam for every incident so winning the case was super easy. Their premiums going up is a given, but, it sounded like it was on me to do the legwork to ensure the culprits get criminally punished for fleeing the scene. Seems silly, like it sets the precedence of low risk, high reward to just flee??

And the one time I did file a report, the police basically took down all the info, I sent them my dashcam footage, and they basically said ok... since it was just a vehicle accident with no injury, we get a lot of these every day.

Pretty much code for "they don't got time for this if no one got hurt." :rukidding:

[SSM_DC5]

Enough reports on the same driver might motivate the police to do something. I gave info, was asked to go to the station..... Essentially put in way more than 15 minutes of effort and it resulted in a visit from the police to the registered owner of the vehicle. Cop said he did something about my report because I wasn't the first person to report this car for similar behaviour.

[spoon.ek9]

It took me 2hrs of waiting on hold for me to report a mitchell’s tow truck that fucked up a crosstrek that he was towing away from a crash, didnt put on dollies. Heard aloud bang three blocks away and confronted him.

I dont even remember if i got a “thank you” letter from ICBC for that one lol
That’s all you get, is a thank you letter. No bonus discount somewhere lol. Just wasted hours of my time

I've been given thank you letters from ICBC in the past. Made me feel good for doing the right thing. I've also had appreciative car owners text message me to say thank you (when I had pen and paper to leave a note on their car). To me, the reward is helping each other out and it builds up good karma; as lame as that might sound lol. I had one person compliment me on my handwriting too :lol

[68style]

I called in a drunk driver and tailed them until the police could get there... was pretty cool being on the line with the operator and them telling me that I should see headlights closing on me from behind soon and sure enough an undercover Fusion blasted by me on the other side of the road and threw all its lights on.

The cop actually called me a couple hours later to thank me, said the guy was arrested on spot and barely knew which way was up.

I think that shit goes on your file somehow too, cuz I got pulled for speeding like a month later and the cop chased after me to pull me over, he was super mad at me so I thought for sure I was done, but he went back to his car and then he came back later and said he wasn't giving me a ticket because I'd done a good deed and then walked off. I can only assume he was referring to the drunk driver thing?

[bcrdukes]

What about that time you got busted for your tint? :troll:

[Badhobz]

I think that shit goes on your file somehow too, cuz I got pulled for speeding like a month later and the cop chased after me to pull me over, he was super mad at me so I thought for sure I was done, but he went back to his car and then he came back later and said he wasn't giving me a ticket because I'd done a good deed and then walked off. I can only assume he was referring to the drunk driver thing?

pssshhh white privilege

Guarantee if i did that, they would throw the dim sum menu book at me. :pokerface:

[Eff-1]

The reason they want your info if you are reporting something to ICBC as a witness or calling the police to report a crime is so that they have the records in case things get challenged by the other party, or ends up in court.

A witness statement is a key piece of evidence and without proof the statement was made by a bonafide individual, it's easy enough for a defence lawyer to challenge the legitimacy of it.

So it's almost guaranteed that if you phone the police or ICBC to report something, they'll want your name and DOB at a minimum so they can follow up with you later if needed.

I guess you could call crimestoppers if you want to remain anonymous? I have no idea how that works though.

[bcrdukes]

But how would you get a financial reward? :troll:

[68style]

Meet in the park, duffel bag is in the trash can next to the bench

Don't bend over when picking it up, watch you 6

[spoon.ek9]

But how would you get a financial reward? :troll:

leave note on car

"wanna know who hit and run you? send e-transfer to ______ for info"

lol

[coneZONE]

I've been given thank you letters from ICBC in the past. Made me feel good for doing the right thing. I've also had appreciative car owners text message me to say thank you (when I had pen and paper to leave a note on their car). To me, the reward is helping each other out and it builds up good karma; as lame as that might sound lol. I had one person compliment me on my handwriting too :lol

You’re absolutely right though, maybe i was (i still am kind of) bitter about ICBC jacking up my insurance 25% the year they changed to the “new system” cuz they no longer counted the Learner year as experience lol.
The other time I submitted a dash cam footage and got a letter for that, was easy enough. Both parties were there and i just got their emails and fwd to them.
Just the wait time on the phone made me reconsider calling in esp since it wasnt a claim on my own stuff.

One time i witnessed an old guy & his wife ram a Mazda 3 with his 90s corolla at Metrotown, left a mark on the rear bumper and pushed the car a few inches. They refused to give me their driver license info and left for the mall. I wrote a note on an old bus transfer and left it on the Mazda’s door, he texted me back and thanked me and asked if i was ok being a witness and i’m like sure. Some time later i missed a phone call from caller ID RCMP and never thought much about it, no VM. So i’ll never know what happened in the end lol. And too bad i didnt have a dash cam in 2013 (the photos are still on my phone lol)

I’ve tapped another guy’s bumper before and left a note. Both our cars were imperfect already and i didnt think there was any new damage but my conscience wouldnt let me go lol. He just texted me back no big deal whew

[Badhobz]

somebody scratched the front bumper of my ES (it could have been my wife or her cunty friend) but both girls denied it. OF COURSE THEY WOULD.

Luckily my precious precious hitlerbox is unscathed for now

[SSM_DC5]

No cameras to incriminate them?

[68style]

Where's the video of me very matter of factly telling you not to drive the ES thru a red light in New West ahahaha

[Badhobz]

It’s not red. It’s chinaman green.

[GLOW]

I’ve tapped another guy’s bumper before and left a note. Both our cars were imperfect already and i didnt think there was any new damage but my conscience wouldnt let me go lol. He just texted me back no big deal whew

wife did the same and he texted us back about fixing the rest of the shit on their already f'd up bumper :rukidding: :lol

ICBC asked the colour of our car (all other existing dmg didn't match our colour) so i assume they told the person to f off with fixing everything else. :smug:

[spoon.ek9]

Got my thank you letter from ICBC :fuckyea:


Hello (spoon.ek9),

Thank you for giving your name as a witness to the following accident.

Individuals don't always want to get involved and your time and information have been of great assistance in helping us reach a fair decision.

Again, thank you for your consideration and help.

Sincerely,

ICBC

[Badhobz]

Write back and be like where my fucking money ?!?!!

[spoon.ek9]

the money is in the bank accounts of their CEO and executives

[red kryptonite]

i hope a good samaritan like spoonek9 spotted this and reports it....
2nd hit and run within a year :rukidding:

https://tnstatic.net/attachments/thumbnail_img_5647-jpg.1017920/

[Badhobz]

Holy crap ! Island life sucks bruddahhh

[spoon.ek9]

dang, that's shitty.... people suck ass.

[red kryptonite]

I like to think I’m pretty good about picking a less crowded parking spot, and this shit still happens. I guess I need to get use to full size vehicles are more prone to getting bumped.

[TypeRNammer]

dang, that's shitty.... people suck ass.

People do suck

I had a hit and run on my Tesla recently.

My sentry didn't turn on because it was low charge. But my home security caught the car trying to parallel park between me and another car that had a one inch buffer front and rear.

The car made three marks on my rear bumper, I had the license plate, house address, and security footage from my home and ICBC says insufficient evidence. It's the only damn red car in the neighborhood.

[Badhobz]

wtf ?!! See icbc are just crooks.

[Klondike]

Someone nudged my buddy's Tacoma in the superstore parking lot and took off.

Luckily it just scuffed the PPF.

[Hondaracer]

i hope a good samaritan like spoonek9 spotted this and reports it....
2nd hit and run within a year :rukidding:

https://tnstatic.net/attachments/thumbnail_img_5647-jpg.1017920/

What are we looking at here lol

[red kryptonite]

:peek:

[AzNightmare]

Cannot stress it enough, everybody needs to get a dashcam.
One hit and run and it's pretty much paid for.

Everyone's going to think, Yeah, as soon as a I get one, then no one will hit me anymore.
Well, good! Even better.

[SSM_DC5]

People do suck

I had a hit and run on my Tesla recently.

My sentry didn't turn on because it was low charge. But my home security caught the car trying to parallel park between me and another car that had a one inch buffer front and rear.

The car made three marks on my rear bumper, I had the license plate, house address, and security footage from my home and ICBC says insufficient evidence. It's the only damn red car in the neighborhood.

So you have the house address of the person that hit you? Did you knock on their door and confront them?

[spoon.ek9]

Cannot stress it enough, everybody needs to get a dashcam.
One hit and run and it's pretty much paid for.

Everyone's going to think, Yeah, as soon as a I get one, then no one will hit me anymore.
Well, good! Even better.

I've always been lazy about installing one. Usually get gifted one from overseas and they're.... not so great (and often by default in Chinese lol).

Any good recos for a decent brand locally? Not looking to break the bank but also want some good quality with good rep.

[Badhobz]

I’ve used the same Korean dash cam brand for over 5 years.

Thinkware.

I just buy their cheapest dash cam (f70) but it works well. I’ve installed it on all the cars in the family so that’s like 7 units in total and none of them have failed so far.

[spoon.ek9]

nice, only $59.99 on walmart marketplace. that's cheap af!

[Badhobz]

What ?!? Omg Chinese heart attack !!!! I paid like 100 bucks for those.

[spoon.ek9]

Maybe because they're old now. Like us :alone:

[AzNightmare]

I've heard good things about Thinkware.
I'm currently using Blackvue on both my cars.

I also have a VIOFO I'm planning to install when I stop being lazy... I bought it back in boxing week, lol.

[Klondike]

Had a F70, currently use a F200. Bought a 70mai for the Lolvo

Paid $119 for the F200, $90 for the F70 and $75 for the 70mai. All great cams at their respective budget.

Sadly, the app no longer works on my F200 unless I use my old phone.

[red kryptonite]

i started looking into a dashcam right after my first hit and run without doing my own homework first. a couple shops all quoted me around $600-800 for brands such as thinkware and blackvue installed, and i said fuck it. now im thinking just gonna get a plug and play setup.

[Badhobz]

Dude just get a 60 dollar thinkware f70 :alone:, throw in a big SD card and then run the wire up and into your A pillar then down into your foot well. It’s basically invisible. The install is so clean it looks like I paid some schmuck to do it.

As for “hard wiring” it to your fuse box so you get parking mode…. Yah you could do that but then you would need another rear camera and then you’re running two cameras on the battery. Seems a bit much. The only car I have parking mode enabled is the ratrolla and even then it’s not really worth it.

[AzNightmare]

i started looking into a dashcam right after my first hit and run without doing my own homework first. a couple shops all quoted me around $600-800 for brands such as thinkware and blackvue installed, and i said fuck it. now im thinking just gonna get a plug and play setup.

Depends on the model, some higher end 2ch dashcams are already $500-600. But I wouldn't be surprised people charge for the labour. It's the only option (or not do it at all) if you don't know how to DIY hardwire.
Plug and play into the 12v plug is the easiest, just not tidy. I think there's some models with a plug and play kit that use the OBD2 port too. It runs while the car's ignition is on, so basically only whenever you're on the road.


IMO, hardwiring parking mode is a must, but that's up to you to decide. Usually, Hit-and-runs will be when your car is parked. They flee when no one's there to witness it.

$100-200 can get you something decent though. Some of those higher end dashcams just have a ton of features that drive up the cost, but it may not really be all that useful.

[red kryptonite]

i havent done the homework yet. but they said if u plug into a 12v it wont record when parked. and if it doesnt get driven often its it needs a battery pack :okay:

[Traum]

i havent done the homework yet. but they said if u plug into a 12v it wont record when parked. and if it doesnt get driven often its it needs a battery pack :okay:
Depends on how your 12V outlet functions in your car. In one of my cars, the 12V outlet cuts power when ignition is turned off. In the other, it doesn't cut power.

For me, it isn't really a big deal. I just use an old (cell phone) power bank to plug the dashcam into if I want to keep monitoring while the car is parked. It's crude, but it works.

[red kryptonite]

Dude just get a 60 dollar thinkware f70 :alone:, throw in a big SD card and then run the wire up and into your A pillar then down into your foot well. It’s basically invisible. The install is so clean it looks like I paid some schmuck to do it.

As for “hard wiring” it to your fuse box so you get parking mode…. Yah you could do that but then you would need another rear camera and then you’re running two cameras on the battery. Seems a bit much. The only car I have parking mode enabled is the ratrolla and even then it’s not really worth it.

found one on fbm for $60, offered him $50 :D

curious, why you didnt go with a lexus/toyota dashcam?

[Klondike]

Dude just get a 60 dollar thinkware f70 :alone:, throw in a big SD card and then run the wire up and into your A pillar then down into your foot well. It’s basically invisible. The install is so clean it looks like I paid some schmuck to do it.

As for “hard wiring” it to your fuse box so you get parking mode…. Yah you could do that but then you would need another rear camera and then you’re running two cameras on the battery. Seems a bit much. The only car I have parking mode enabled is the ratrolla and even then it’s not really worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OmHSaHjJik

You can move the fuse one notch up to keep the 12v always hot

[SSM_DC5]

I was renewing my insurance today via online and getting coverage for hit and runs are separate now from the usual comprehensive coverage? Since when did they start doing that?!

[Traum]

I was renewing my insurance today via online and getting coverage for hit and runs are separate now from the usual comprehensive coverage? Since when did they start doing that?!
It isn't separate -- if you purchase comprehensive coverage, it includes hit and run insurance.

The hit and run option is for those that do not want to buy comprehensive, but still want coverage for just hit and run.

[SSM_DC5]

I have comp but it was showing as a separate line item that I don't have hit and run.

[Traum]

Doh, I'm an idiot.

It's collision coverage that covers you for hit and run.

https://www.icbc.com/insurance/products-coverage/collision-coverage

How does Collision coverage help you?
Collision coverage covers your repair costs when you hit another vehicle, object or the surface of the road. This coverage extends to vehicle damage caused by an unidentified driver (hit and run).

The hit and run coverage would obviously cover hit and run claims, and it's meant for those who did not / could not purchase collision coverage.

[SSM_DC5]

If knew I should have taken a screenshot.... But I have collision coverage too.
Item 1 was collision
Item 2 was compressive
Item 3 was hit and run
Forgot the order of other items, but loss of use, road star, stereo equipment, etc.