[whitev70r]

Put it all here. Pretty creative to have Opening Ceremony not in a traditional stadium but to send the festivities and athletes down the Seine River ... at least it sounds creative. Let's see how it actually pans out and the security measures.

[mikemhg]

Lyles will win 2 gold medals this Olympics, in at least 2 of the following:

-100m (likely)
-200m (guaranteed)
-400m relay

[Teriyaki]

Really liking this opening ceremony with the parade of the athletes down the river and the performances.
Genius really from a marketing perspective for tourism. A stadium is a stadium is a stadium but wow they took advantage of the global stage and selling the city of Paris hard.

Found it amusing they jammed the massive Canadian team and the also massive Chinese team on the same boat while so many other boats came out 80% empty.
Also the South Korea team being announced incorrectly loll.

[Traum]

Apparently the athlete village food situation has been quite a scandal. These are the best of the best atheletes we have in the world, and the geniuses that organized the food and meal plans wasn't even providing enough proteins to feed the athletes bcos they wanted to be more environmentally conscious?!?

What a bunch of woke idiots...

[CivicBlues]

eh it's France, Let them eat cake.

Watching the Opening right now....waiting for Celine Dion to show up and totally fuck shit up.

[Teriyaki]

Holy fck. The flying flame had me literally gasping. and now Celine Dion!!

[CivicBlues]

The commentator said it was filled with Hydrogen. Really? Hindenburg anyone? lol. Oh the Humanity!

And wow, I'm usually stoic AF but Celine showing up almost....almost had me in tears.

[Hondaracer]

Damn the opening was fantastic, really well done

[GLOW]

is it available free to stream anywhere (legally)?

and wtf with canadian women soccer coach and a drone? :suspicious:

[whitev70r]

and wtf with canadian women soccer coach and a drone? :suspicious:

Shit is hitting the fan, stories of them doing this back in 2021 Olympic soccer where Canada won gold ... questions of whether they might strip them of the medal. And that both Canadian Men and Women Soccer coaches have been implicated in drone spying on rehearsal ... Men as recently as attempting to in COPA !! :concentrate:

[SkinnyPupp]

https://tvsportslive.fr/category/olympics-2024/

[Tim Budong]

and wtf with canadian women soccer coach and a drone? :suspicious:

Must have learned some of her coaching strats from Belichick

hahha

[whitev70r]

Holy fck. The flying flame had me literally gasping. and now Celine Dion!!


And wow, I'm usually stoic AF but Celine showing up almost....almost had me in tears.

Just watching highlights ... goosebumps from Celine's performance. She slayed it, especially after this syndrome thing that she went through! :bowdown:

[Hondaracer]

Rewatched the opening with my wife skimming through most of the team introductions etc. that is one of my favorite openings I’ve seen and I’ve been a huge Olympics fan since Atlanta really maybe even before that

[Bender Unit]

is it available free to stream anywhere (legally)?
CBC online or app

https://gem.cbc.ca/

[whitev70r]

Damn ... Rick Westhead from TSN is reporting about the Men's and Women's Soccer drone spying scandal ... when Westhead is THE journalist for sports scandals.

Women's team head coach Bev Priestman already banned for one year.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong's first gold medal this year already! Their third in history (2020 for fencing, 1996 for sailing)

Vivian Kong, fencing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTimWlabEAAv80S.jpg

Looking forward to watching more fencing, as well as swimming and table tennis for some more medals!

[donk.]

If you guys want non-pc entertainment, go on instagram, find the opening ceremony video, and read the comments

[SkinnyPupp]

If you guys want non-pc entertainment, go on instagram, find the opening ceremony video, and read the comments
Magas are having a complete meltdown KEKW

[SkinnyPupp]

Watching field hockey without commentary. Decent sport!

[SkinnyPupp]

Japanese judoka Uta Abe just lost her first match since 2019 and second match since 2016.

And then she had a complete fucking meltdown that lasted like 5 minutes. It was really uncomfortable to watch.

A comeback would make for a good story

[pastarocket]

The men's basketball team of Canada played a hard fought game against Greece.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was clutch! SGA made clutch buckets with step back 3's and layups when the game was close late in the fourth quarter.

RJ Barrett with a team high 23 points.

Greece played good defence. However, they only have Giannis as their main scoring option. Greek Freak had 34 points.

On to the next game vs. Australia on Tuesday!

Although Canada is in the group of Death with strong teams like Australia and Spain, I think that this team can get to the knockout games and win a medal.


Is anyone here a tennis fan? Rafael Nadal and Carlos Alcaraz won their opening match in doubles.

Rafa plays his long time rival Djokovic in singles in a second round match. A clash of two tennis GOATs. FeelsGoodMan

[Hondaracer]

Crazy, Gold in Judo this morning and a dominant performance by Summer Mcintosh for gold in the 400m medley, crazy performance

[SkinnyPupp]

Crazy, Gold in Judo this morning and a dominant performance by Summer Mcintosh for gold in the 400m medley, crazy performance
I watched Summer McIntosh in the prelims and she was dominant and won, except the final lap which is freestyle, where the Japanese swimmer was faster than anyone and was able to finish second from fourth.. That was wild.

HK wins 2 more medals today! Another gold in fencing for Ka Long Cheung (he won gold in Tokyo as well) so they're tied with Canada for gold medals! And Bronze in 200m freestyle for Siobhan Haughey, her third Olympic medal, making her the most decorated Olympic athlete in HK.

It's been fun to watch HK at the last couple Olympics - In Tokyo they tripled their historic medal total by winning 6, and now they have 3 already.

Currently ranked #10 in the medal standings, since it's based on gold medals (I know Americans like to pretend it's based on overall, but it's not - that's just used as a tie breaker)

[G]

I watched Summer McIntosh in the prelims and she was dominant and won, except the final lap which is freestyle, where the Japanese swimmer was faster than anyone and was able to finish second from fourth.. That was wild.

HK wins 2 more medals today! Another gold in fencing for Ka Long Cheung (he won gold in Tokyo as well) so they're tied with Canada for gold medals! And Bronze in 200m freestyle for Siobhan Haughey, her third Olympic medal, making her the most decorated Olympic athlete in HK.

It's been fun to watch HK at the last couple Olympics - In Tokyo they tripled their historic medal total by winning 6, and now they have 3 already.

Currently ranked #10 in the medal standings, since it's based on gold medals (I know Americans like to pretend it's based on overall, but it's not - that's just used as a tie breaker)

Crazy back to back for Cheung Ka Long! It's also crazy that a gold medal win for HK athletes gives them a bonus of $6,000,000 HKD which is just slightly over 1 mil CAD :ahwow:

[SkinnyPupp]

Crazy back to back for Cheung Ka Long! It's also crazy that a gold medal win for HK athletes gives them a bonus of $6,000,000 HKD which is just slightly over 1 mil CAD :ahwow:
It's crazy because they don't have the support programs they have in China... The funding and everything is separate, so being in the top 10 several days in is crazy impressive (not that it will finish that way)

Look at all the expected countries in the top 10, and there's Hong Kong SeemsGood

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTswJdibEAA2q9J.jpg

[Tim Budong]

for what it's worth,

while China has national funding, it doesn't equal to the best training, where as some of these HK athletes are getting actual world class training and heavy corporate sponsors.

I think Sioban Haughey trains with the worlds best already being a product of Michigan Wolverines, the same people that trained Michael Phelps.

[SkinnyPupp]

for what it's worth,

while China has national funding, it doesn't equal to the best training, where as some of these HK athletes are getting actual world class training and heavy corporate sponsors.

I think Sioban Haughey trains with the worlds best already being a product of Michigan Wolverines, the same people that trained Michael Phelps.
Yeah and clearly their fencing program is top notch as well. I am curious to see how indoor cycling goes, now that Sarah Lee has retired. She's a legend and I wonder if the next class can take it from there

[SkinnyPupp]

Canada beats Australia in Rugby 7s and will play for gold against New Zealand! Awesome game

[pastarocket]

Canada wins the silver medal in the women's rugby 7 final. Gold for New Zealand.

Team Canada is undefeated in men's basketball. Good win over Australia.

I am hoping that Canada has a chance to play the Americans. A great test to see how the Canadian team measures up against the Dream Team.

Canada has arguably the best backcourt with Shai Gilgeous Alexander and Jamal Murray. RJ Barrett is playing well.

As usual, Team USA is stacked with NBA stars. Kevin Durant only played limited minutes in USA's 110-84 win over Serbia.

KD had 21 points. 8 for 8 shooting. 3 for 3 for 3 pointers. Crazy efficient offence from KD.

[Tim Budong]

Canada wins the silver medal in the women's rugby 7 final. Gold for New Zealand.

Team Canada is undefeated in men's basketball. Good win over Australia.

I am hoping that Canada has a chance to play the Americans. A great test to see how the Canadian team measures up against the Dream Team.

Canada has arguably the best backcourt with Shai Gilgeous Alexander and Jamal Murray. RJ Barrett is playing well.

As usual, Team USA is stacked with NBA stars. Kevin Durant only played limited minutes in USA's 110-84 win over Serbia.

KD had 21 points. 8 for 8 shooting. 3 for 3 for 3 pointers. Crazy efficient offence from KD.

Canada has 10 NBA players, 2nd most in the tournament, a medal is not out of the question.

crazy how KD is coming off the bench for this team. Tatum hasn't played yet either lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Cz3xsdDgc

[whitev70r]

What is this 3-on-3 Basketball event at the Olympics, that's kind of like courtyard game. Must be new, first time I remember seeing it ... like, really? OK, I guess the amateurs need one event to try and win a medal cuz the team basketball is all dominated by millionaires.

Dumfries from Richmond did not medal ... 5th in the 20 kms speedwalk.

[winson604]

Yeah and clearly their fencing program is top notch as well. I am curious to see how indoor cycling goes, now that Sarah Lee has retired. She's a legend and I wonder if the next class can take it from there

Having watched lots before and still watch some TVB dramas, fencing is often featured as a sport some random character on the show dabbles in. I never really realized it was really a thing in Hong Kong but I guess it is and kind of neat to see the success they're having.

McIntosh with another gold today damn she's a beast and is only 17? crazy

[Traum]

The latest female boxing match between Algerian boxer Imane Khelif and Italian boxer Angela Carini is leaving another massive wokey black eye as an Olympic legacy. FailFish

Nicely done, IOC. Nicely done. :failed:

[whitev70r]

McIntosh with another gold today damn she's a beast and is only 17? crazy

I seem to recall we had another amazing Canadian swimmer - Penny Oleksiak, didn't she also win a truckload of medals over a couple of Olympic games? Just looked it up and she took home 7!

[winson604]

I seem to recall we had another amazing Canadian swimmer - Penny Oleksiak, didn't she also win a truckload of medals over a couple of Olympic games? Just looked it up and she took home 7!

Another beast for sure to me it feels like she has been competing for us forever and while she has she's still only 24!

Don't we have some Break dancer from BC that's competing and is the favorite as well?

[pastarocket]

Another beast for sure to me it feels like she has been competing for us forever and while she has she's still only 24!

Don't we have some Break dancer from BC that's competing and is the favorite as well?

You are referring to Philip Kim, aka B-Boy Phil Wizard. He lives in Vancouver.


https://olympic.ca/team-canada/philip-kim/

[Hondaracer]

The UN even weighing in with violence against women with the seemingly trans boxer KO’ing people

https://apple.news/AB_vVUlnTR1yrrxapqUKuwA

Nice work IOC, this will almost certainly be a topic that highlights these games if they win the gold.

[SkinnyPupp]

She quit after 45 seconds and cried after the match, what a loser

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GT5CvC8WYAAqtc0.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

The UN even weighing in with violence against women with the seemingly trans boxer KO’ing people

https://apple.news/AB_vVUlnTR1yrrxapqUKuwA

Nice work IOC, this will almost certainly be a topic that highlights these games if they win the gold.
She's not trans lol

It's like complaining about Michael Phelps because he has big paddle hands

[whitev70r]

She's not trans lol


is it male or female?

[SkinnyPupp]

I know you guys like to troll here, and that's fine. But try not to turn into one of those twitter maga retards.

[Hondaracer]

Banned from every other boxing federation and athletes who trained their whole lives bow out after a single punch?

Sounds totally legit

[SkinnyPupp]

She's like 9-5 this year.. 5 women were able to somehow overcome her and beat her. She didn't medal last Olympics

But yes, she's tall and has whacky hormones, therefore trans, right? You realize if someone tried to be openly trans in Algeria, she would probably never be allowed to see the light of day? A lot of these fuckfaces are going after Katie Ledecky now too, because women can't possibly be good athletes.

You guys are being fooled by grifters and shitheads online, spreading hatred and ignorance. You're being no better than that idiot who posted a thread about drag queens reading to kids, with some weird random sex performance cut in to make ignorant people more upset.

[Hondaracer]

Dunno like seen a lot of mixed information but consistently failing tests in other boxing federations seems fairly suspect no?

[SkinnyPupp]

Dunno like seen a lot of mixed information but consistently failing tests in other boxing federations seems fairly suspect no?
She had elevated testosterone in a test (I mean you would expect that right?) and a corrupt organization that no longer has ties to the IOC and moved itself to Russia also claimed she had male chromosomes.

She's a masculine woman, and that's that, like so many top athletes in the Olympics and all sports. There are no transgender athletes allowed at the Olympics. Better boxers have beat her, including in Tokyo. This loser quit after one jab to the face, and got everyone up in arms (I don't remember this controversy during Tokyo)

We've seen this a million times going back decades. In the 70's it was Billie Jean King who ignorant morons would call a man, just because she was so dominant. And then in the 80's it was Martina Navratilova, and the Williams sisters in the 90's and 00's, and so on.

Now it's this boxer.. The level of ignorance fueled anger is constant, but now it's being harvested for political gain.

Don't let yourself get harvested.

[Traum]

The Algerian boxer is deemed to have DSD -- differences of sexual development, and the condition causes her to have X and Y chromosome in each cell (a typical male pattern) and male-range testosterone levels. That gives her a genotypical and gender-related advantage over other female athletes which she competes against. Michael Phelps and his big paddle hands are merely a phenotypical and physical phenomenon. Genetically, he does not enjoy a significant advantage over his competitors.

It is true that Khelif is not undefeatable. At the same time, there is a reason we generally do not pit male athletes against female athletes in a competition.

[SkinnyPupp]

The Algerian boxer is deemed to have DSD
What is the source of this? And has it been disputed?

[Traum]

What is the source of this? And has it been disputed?
I read it in one of the reputable European newspaper earlier today -- potentially the Independent or the Guardian. But now I can't seem to find the article again. Instead, most articles just mention the possibility of DSD, with Khelif not commenting on the speculation.

There is mention of Khelif being DSD from the IBA last year. However as those of us discussing this would probably know, IBA is not the boxing body running the show at Paris. The IOC-created body -- PBU -- makes no mention of gender / sex testing for the athletes. Gender indication on the athlete's passport seems to be the only requirement for an athlete to compete in the female category.

The IOC also did not deny that Khelif has been tested to have a high testosteron level -- although potentially, they may not have any testosterone level test results for the boxer at all. But in my eyes, only citing the passport requirement is a pretty weak and weasely clarification that has done little to clear out the rumours.

At the end of the day, this lack of clarity in the IOC policies is the real reason why we have this controversy now. This is a massive disservice to all athletes competing in the games, as well as a failure to the audience worldwide. Even if Khelif wins gold, there'll forever be an asterisk beside her name and the medal from IOC's policy vacuum.

[SkinnyPupp]

I read it in one of the reputable European newspaper earlier today -- potentially the Independent or the Guardian. But now I can't seem to find the article again. Instead, most articles just mention the possibility of DSD, with Khelif not commenting on the speculation.

There is mention of Khelif being DSD from the IBA last year. However as those of us discussing this would probably know, IBA is not the boxing body running the show at Paris. The IOC-created body -- PBU -- makes no mention of gender / sex testing for the athletes. Gender indication on the athlete's passport seems to be the only requirement for an athlete to compete in the female category.

The IOC also did not deny that Khelif has been tested to have a high testosteron level -- although potentially, they may not have any testosterone level test results for the boxer at all. But in my eyes, only citing the passport requirement is a pretty weak and weasely clarification that has done little to clear out the rumours.

At the end of the day, this lack of clarity in the IOC policies is the real reason why we have this controversy now. This is a massive disservice to all athletes competing in the games, as well as a failure to the audience worldwide. Even if Khelif wins gold, there'll forever be an asterisk beside her name and the medal from IOC's policy vacuum.
Yes that IBA is a disgraced organization that was ditched for various reasons (not this one) related to corruption.

If she disputes it, then I believe her

She did pop for high test. From there they have to decide if they want to have strict rules for hormone levels, or base it on other things.

At the end of the day this is a woman using her physical tools like any athlete. She's not this man pretending to be a woman and destroying the field. She has been beaten.. This quitter got popped by a jab and quit.. She would get destroyed by some of the better women there (better than Khelif). This is not a controversial topic cause by policy, and there will be no asterisk if she wins, except from insane or ignorant people (who don't matter in the end).

So now she's being called a "faggot" by insane grifters, and being called transgender by people getting sucked in by these insane grifters.

My posts here are to hopefully open peoples eyes to what is going on, and not just blindly spread hatred.

[Traum]

To me, the core of the issue hinges on whether Khelif is DSD or not. If her biological makeup is providing her with both X and Y chromosomes, then it would be unfair to have her compete in the female category. If she is not DSD, then obviously she would be fully entitled to compete with other females.

So far, Khelif has not commented on the issue, nor has she provided any proof to otherwise confirm or deny whether she is DSD. Because of this, if she goes on to win her boxing matches, the controversy of whether she deservingly won those matches are just going to continue.

The IOC policy failure that I spoke of lies in how IOC did not clearly define the eligibility requirements for the competing athletes to convince the public that the games' outcomes are fair.

[SkinnyPupp]

To me, the core of the issue hinges on whether Khelif is DSD or not. If her biological makeup is providing her with both X and Y chromosomes, then it would be unfair to have her compete in the female category. If she is not DSD, then obviously she would be fully entitled to compete with other females.

So far, Khelif has not commented on the issue, nor has she provided any proof to otherwise confirm or deny whether she is DSD. Because of this, if she goes on to win her boxing matches, the controversy of whether she deservingly won those matches are just going to continue.

The IOC policy failure that I spoke of lies in how IOC did not clearly define the eligibility requirements for the competing athletes to convince the public that the games' outcomes are fair.
"Her biological makeup" is of no concern to the IOC or you, any more than Shaquille O'Neil's "biological makeup" is for being big and tall, or Simone Biles for being small and strong, or Michael Phelps for having a huge number of genetic advantages including a body that produces low levels of lactic acid.

Being a female is what entitles her to compete with females.

I get that people are mad that they can't be mad about a trans boxer, but making shit up about genetic policy is bad boomer behavior. You should reconsider acting that way. You're not protecting female boxers or anyone else, you're just coming up with new ways to exert control over peoples' will.

[Traum]

Respectfully, I disagree with what you are saying here.

If the genetic make up between biological males and biological females do not matter in competitive sports, then all sports competition should be mixed gender and inclusive. But obviously that is absurd.

And while we are at it, we might as well abolish age categories too. Let's mix all the U16, U18, U21 teams along with the adult teams as well as the masters and seniors teams. And include the little leaguer children too, because not doing so would be age discriminatory, right?

I am not gonna call your suggestion woke behaviour in the same way you call mine as "bad boomer behaviour", but I do recommend you to reconsider what you've said just now.
"Her biological makeup" is of no concern to the IOC or you, any more than Shaquille O'Neil's "biological makeup" is for being big and tall, or Simone Biles for being small and strong, or Michael Phelps for having a huge number of genetic advantages including a body that produces low levels of lactic acid.

Being a female is what entitles her to compete with females.

I get that people are mad that they can't be mad about a trans boxer, but making shit up about genetic policy is bad boomer behavior. You should reconsider acting that way. You're not protecting female boxers or anyone else, you're just coming up with new ways to exert control over peoples' will.

[SkinnyPupp]

Trying to put limits on peoples natural physiology is not just boomer behavior, it's insane behavior. Thankfully they don't do that.

I'm not going to argue ridiculous logical fallacies about age limits, so let's just leave it at that. Call me woke all you want, I don't care lol.

[MarkyMark]

"Her biological makeup" is of no concern to the IOC or you, any more than Shaquille O'Neil's "biological makeup" is for being big and tall, or Simone Biles for being small and strong, or Michael Phelps for having a huge number of genetic advantages including a body that produces low levels of lactic acid.

Eh this is combat sports not some chick dunking on a bunch of smaller women. There should be some transparency on what exactly is going on and what the advantages are. If you want to just say "vagina = they have to let her fight" then that's your stance on it I guess. I don't see how it's insane to question something like this.

[SkinnyPupp]

Eh this is combat sports not some chick dunking on a bunch of smaller women. There should be some transparency on what exactly is going on and what the advantages are. If you want to just say "vagina = they have to let her fight" then that's your stance on it I guess. I don't see how it's insane to question something like this.
So you've gone from "you used to be a male so you can't fight females" to "you have always been a female, but your hormone levels are too high to fight other females. This is my business"

Yes, that is completely insane. It is unhinged meddling.

Anyway, it's a moot point since you guys can't affect who gets to participate because of whatever "DSD" reasons your favourite podcast came up with. Just keep it on twitter and here I guess.

BTW Canada just won bronze in trampoline :alonehappy:

[MarkyMark]

So you've gone from "you used to be a male so you can't fight females" to "you have always been a female, but your hormone levels are too high to fight other females. This is my business"

Yes, that is completely insane. It is unhinged meddling, and you have gone from transphobia to misogyny. Why not go after male fighters who maybe have a big chest and can throw stronger punches? That could injure someone after all. Yes, it's insane.

BTW Canada just won bronze in trampoline :alonehappy:

WTF do you mean saying "you've" gone from transphobia to misogyny what did I say that was transphobic?

What business is it of yours to tell the women getting punched in the head by her that they are cowards and should just shut the fuck up about it?

[pastarocket]

Go Team Canada! Watching the men's basketball game between Canada vs. Spain now.

The CBC Olympics app is pretty good. Thank goodness for working from home today haha.

[SkinnyPupp]

WTF do you mean saying "you've" gone from transphobia to misogyny what did I say that was transphobic?

What business is it of yours to tell the women getting punched in the head by her that they are cowards and should just shut the fuck up about it?
You = the people arguing about this boxer

I didn't say anyone should "shut the fuck up" about losing a boxing match.

[MarkyMark]

You = the people arguing about this boxer

I didn't say anyone should "shut the fuck up" about losing a boxing match.

Well you called them a loser and seem to think no one has a right to say anything about this or they are some insane misogynistic boomer so I dunno...

There's two sides to this, the crazy twitter people calling her a man, and the actual truth which is a very gray area in my opinion.

[CivicBlues]

Trans people in sports and RS:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/cJRcMyUAiMcAAAAd/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit.gif

[pastarocket]

Canada beats Spain 88-85 in men's basketball! Undefeated in their group A.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and RJ Barrett were clutch in this game, especially in the last three minutes. Huge 3 pointer from Barrett to help Canada maintain a lead with about a minute left in the game.

The Spaniards are tough. Their bench scored over 50 of their points. Although Canada has more NBA players than Spain, the Spanish played hard until the end of the game.

On to the quarterfinals for Canada! Hopefully, they can play the weakest team they can get depending of the outcome of other games today.

[SkinnyPupp]

Trans people in sports and RS:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/cJRcMyUAiMcAAAAd/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit.gif
She's not even trans lol.. This is a new level of derangement we're seeing. They are mad about a "gray area" now!

[MarkyMark]

Dude cheering for women having to fight people with abnormally high test and all the advantages that come with it and calling other people deranged gotta love it :lol

Enjoy yourself bruh

[Tim Budong]

Canada beats Spain 88-85 in men's basketball! Undefeated in their group A.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and RJ Barrett were clutch in this game, especially in the last three minutes. Huge 3 pointer from Barrett to help Canada maintain a lead with about a minute left in the game.

The Spaniards are tough. Their bench scored over 50 of their points. Although Canada has more NBA players than Spain, the Spanish played hard until the end of the game.

On to the quarterfinals for Canada! Hopefully, they can play the weakest team they can get depending of the outcome of other games today.

I wanna see a US vs Canada in the gold medal game.

That would be bonkers

[AzNightmare]

Shaquille O'Neil's "biological makeup" is for being big and tall, or Simone Biles for being small and strong, or Michael Phelps for having a huge number of genetic advantages including a body that produces low levels of lactic acid.

Initially I was outraged as these kind of topics of transwomen competeing as women do trigger me. But after more research from what I'm aware of, I have changed my stance since what it comes down for me is whether Imane enhanced herself through any "modifications" or not. And it sounds like she didn't. She's just born genetically "gifted" with higher levels of testosterone, which makes it no different than the examples listed above like Michael Phelps which gave him an edge over his competition. It just so happens Phelps is a man. Should he have been disqualified or put in his own category that's above men? Hypothetic "mutant" division?



If the genetic make up between biological males and biological females do not matter in competitive sports, then all sports competition should be mixed gender and inclusive. But obviously that is absurd.


But it's such a gray area. Some women are born with more testosterone and that's outside of their control. Where do you draw the line? If a person was born female and never did anything unnatural to her body, then how can she not be considered a female to compete as a female?


---

The first girl quit after taking a couple shots in the face. It set up a perfect narrative, but in hindsight, she also sounds like a quitter considering Imane just had her 2nd fight, the other controversial boxer Liu Yu-ting had her fight, and they all went the length to a decision, rather than an easy 1st round win.

I'll leave this here:
https://x.com/MauRSchneider/status/1819101753809555627

[MarkyMark]

The only thing I'll say about that is Phelps swimming in a pool isn't giving someone else brain damage. There's a reason men excel in basically every sport compared to women and that's testosterone. You're talking a difference in muscle mass, strength, bone density, the amount of force you can put behind a punch compared to a regular woman in the same weight class.

Anyways people will have different opinions on this, I'm not gonna call you insane cause you don't agree with me

[Traum]

I agree it's a gray area, and that makes it difficult to draw the line. But seeing how competitive sports has always "drawn the line" between males and females, it seems entirely appropriate to use biological gender as the marker to draw that line. And what determines biological gender? It's whether your cells carry an XY chromosome pair, or an XX chromosome pair.

In Khelif's case, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that she has DSD, although there is inconclusive evidence to suggest that IBA might have said Khelif has DSD. This is why I said that everything hinges on whether Khelif (or any other female competitor) has DSD or not. If she does not have DSD, then obviously she should be competing in the female category.

But if she has DSD, then even though she has done nothing to "modify" herself to be a female, unfortuantely she does not meet the criteria to compete in the female category if we use biological gender (ie. the natural presences of XX or XY chromosome pairs in body cells) as the deciding factor.

The next step from here becomes even more complicated and messy. How would the IOC determine whether a female competitor has DSD or not? In the case of performance enhancing drugs, the solution is to test every single competitor to indicate there is no bias or discrimination. But if you adopt the same approach to test all female athletes for DSD, it is gonna be an absolute PR disaster in every imaginable way.

All in all, it's just one big giant mess. FailFish
But it's such a gray area. Some women are born with more testosterone and that's outside of their control. Where do you draw the line? If a person was born female and never did anything unnatural to her body, then how can she not be considered a female to compete as a female?

[Hondaracer]

lol I love how this is some libtard hill to die on as demonstrated here.

You are banned by the commissions that regulate the sport, you’ve been banned from previous events, the IOC didn’t even know what to do with you

And people question damn.. is there sonthing to this??

“TRANSPHOBIC BIGGOT!!!”

Like jfc.. swear like this shit isn’t even setup by the “right” it was some liberal dog whistle bullshit to start calling people out who would even question it based on the fact provided? lol

[donk.]

You guys should go hangout on dave st today, all yore burning questions about grey areas will be answered

[SkinnyPupp]

lol I love how this is some libtard hill to die on as demonstrated here.

You are banned by the commissions that regulate the sport, you’ve been banned from previous events, the IOC didn’t even know what to do with you

And people question damn.. is there sonthing to this??

“TRANSPHOBIC BIGGOT!!!”

Like jfc.. swear like this shit isn’t even setup by the “right” it was some liberal dog whistle bullshit to start calling people out who would even question it based on the fact provided? lol

Your ignorance is being harvested by the right. Don't let it.

[SkinnyPupp]

The first girl quit after taking a couple shots in the face. It set up a perfect narrative

After more info came out, that the Italian boxer is a far right cop, I wouldn't be shocked if she planned all along to take a dive after taking her first hit, or got into trouble.

She "apologized" without taking anything back, saying she basically has to go by the IOC rules. (which don't apply here, since there are no rules forbidding cis women from boxing other cis women, even if they are tall and strong)

The whole thing is a farce being set up to make people angry. And as you can see it's working. Even here. We some really angry people getting mad about "liberal dog whistling" and "libtard hills to die on" and writing in all caps about being called bigoted.

They FEAST on these people. It's how something like Trump or The Brothers of Italy being in power can even happen at all.

[Traum]

After more info came out, that the Italian boxer is a far right cop, I wouldn't be shocked if she planned all along to take a dive after taking her first hit, or got into trouble.
And now you are totally getting into conspiracy theories of your own.

This is the Olympics, not your local track and field meet that happens somewhere close by every 2 months. Even though female boxing may not be the most popular or common sports around, getting selected to represent your country at the highest level of competition is still not going to be an easy feat. Esp for physical sports, if you have one shot at the Olympics, you take it and you give it everything you've got because you are going to be a different athlete the next Olympics come around. In Carini's case, she is 25 years old now, which basically means she is at her physical peak. Even if she can qualify for the Olympics again next time, it is highly questionable whether she will be as strong a boxer as she is now.

And then there is the training and conditioning to get into Olympic form -- serious athletes would likely come up with their high level training plan a year or two in advance. And then there are the years of hard work before reaching the national level. No athlete in the right mind would throw all of that training and effort away by intentionally planning to dive ahead of their match.

So don't be ridiculous to suggest something so ridiculous. It is beneath you.

[SkinnyPupp]

And now you are totally getting into conspiracy theories of your own.

I just said I wouldn't be shocked. Don't try to make any more of it than that. It was a joke, which I'm sure you knew. Just like people knew when jokes were made about Trump's shooting being staged. It's all obviously lampooning that nothing is too ridiculous to believe in a post 2016 world.

And BTW the only reason you're going after this person now is because of the accusations of her being trans. Without that, everyone would be fine with her just like they were at the last Olympics. Just like nobody goes after any random rugby player who is huge and strong in a physical sport because of genetics or whatever.

She was the same person then that she is now, but this time the usual suspects on twitter got all the people to pile on with hatred and ignorance because someone quit a match 45 seconds in. And after it got disproven, it just has to continue for whatever reason. Now it's "grey area" and "genetics" an "DND" or whatever

All this talk about categories of "genetics" as if you care about genetics.

[SkinnyPupp]

The only thing I'll say about that is Phelps swimming in a pool isn't giving someone else brain damage. There's a reason men excel in basically every sport compared to women and that's testosterone. You're talking a difference in muscle mass, strength, bone density, the amount of force you can put behind a punch compared to a regular woman in the same weight class.

Anyways people will have different opinions on this, I'm not gonna call you insane cause you don't agree with me
So is the solution for women with the wrong genetics to fight men instead of other women?

[SkinnyPupp]

Canadian women doing well in track, in #2 in hammer throw and #3 in 400m hurdles. Hopefully their genetics are acceptable to the boomers here!

[MarkyMark]

So is the solution for women with the wrong genetics to fight men instead of other women?

There's no solution that's going to make everyone happy, I don't think they should be fighting men either. It's a rare enough condition that they can't even make a separate category so do you try and make it fair for 99% of the athletes or let one person have the advantage? Do we just open it right up and let trans women compete too? I'm sure your opinion will be a lot different than mine but I'm not gonna start hurling far left insults at you.

[Tim Budong]

Djokivic got his gold medal in tennis.
Pretty good match!

[SkinnyPupp]

There's no solution that's going to make everyone happy, I don't think they should be fighting men either. It's a rare enough condition that they can't even make a separate category so do you try and make it fair for 99% of the athletes or let one person have the advantage? Do we just open it right up and let trans women compete too? I'm sure your opinion will be a lot different than mine but I'm not gonna start hurling far left insults at you.
I just don't think the 'condition' is something to be concerned about.

The trans debate is a whole other can of worms lol. There's an actual debate there, not just boomer nonsense over a woman who looks masculine.

[pastarocket]

Another gold medal for Canada!

Ethan Katzberg wins a gold medal in the hammer throw.

-Katzberg is from Nanaimo. World champion in the hammer throw


https://youtu.be/WeBq2F38BFk?si=o8gm5MmhU7F4SIE3

[Traum]

And BTW the only reason you're going after this person now is because of the accusations of her being trans. Without that, everyone would be fine with her just like they were at the last Olympics. Just like nobody goes after any random rugby player who is huge and strong in a physical sport because of genetics or whatever.
If you had actually bothered to read what I wrote before, you would have known right from the start in both the Trump thread as well as this Olympic thread that I have mentioned how the issue is not about Khelif being trans, but my initial reading from a newspaper at the suggestion that she has DSD. Of course, you can choose to selectively read what you want to read, and I can't stop that. You can also choose to continually harp about how I am making this a trans issue, when I have indicated a few times that it isn't.


She was the same person then that she is now, but this time the usual suspects on twitter got all the people to pile on with hatred and ignorance because someone quit a match 45 seconds in. And after it got disproven, it just has to continue for whatever reason. Now it's "grey area" and "genetics" an "DND" or whatever
It is "DSD", which stands for "Differences of Sexual Development", not "DND". If you were going to use it as a point of discussion, at least make an effort into getting right. Otherwise, you'll just come across as being dismissive to begin with, and not really interested in what the other party has to say.

If that's the case, what's the point of even bothering to discuss the matter?


All this talk about categories of "genetics" as if you care about genetics.

At the heart of it, you are correct that genetics is not the top of my concern. The biggest thing I would like to see in competitive sports is fair play. As I have already mentioned in post #68 though, for better or for worse, society has chosen "gender" to be the deciding factor in how we separate athletes into different categories to ensure fair play, and the presence of what chromosomes pair a person has is the implicitly understood reason on how athletes are categorized.

It is not a perfect system, but no system ever is. Just because you do not think the condition is something to be concerned about does not determine whether the condition is actually something to be concerned about. Citing how Khelif is not undefeatable has no bearing on whether the condition provides an athletic advantage over competitors who do not have that condition. The single most important criteria is whether Khelif has the DSD condition or not, but nobody knows the answer to that.

FYI, there is a real debate behind DSD athletes and the requirements they have been made to comply with in order to compete as well. The World Athletics Council sees it as an important enough condition to put a rule in place to limit blood testosterone level for DSD athletes. Meanwhile, Olympic champion runner Caster Semenya is a DSD athlete, and has taken the competition requirements to the European Court of Human Rights on the basis of discrimination against athletes with her condition. So it isn't just some boomer nonsense.

[whitev70r]

^ yah, sometimes this guy gets on this soapbox, just because he had time to take a deeper dive on it before everyone else and groups everyone who have honest questions about it. He creates this strawman compilation that must be MAGA, boomer, white, transphobic, bleh bleh bleh. I just ignore his pompous ass when he gets into that mood. In other topics or threads, he acts like a normal person.

I recall in previous Olympics, sincere and honest questions were also raised about Caster Semenya, the South African runner.

I see a forum like this to learn, ask questions, and discuss. It ruins it when someone demeans and dismisses ... and he is suppose to be a 'moderator'.

mod·er·a·tor
/ˈmädəˌrādər/
1. an arbitrator or mediator.
"Egypt managed to assert its role as a regional moderator"
2. a person who moderates an internet forum or online discussion.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not a moderator lol. I'm not moderating anyone or anything. I am not editing peoples posts or banning people or shit all.

I have a disagreement with someone who thinks they are a genetics expert and is only raising an issue because he thought there was a trans athlete in the Olympics.

Nobody would be talking about this boxer if people didn't accuse her of being trans. Don't pretend that isn't true.

And if you get mad at being called a boomer, you're kind of being a snowflake. You can call me "woke" or "leftard" or any of the other names, and I don't care. It's just shit talking on a forum, who cares?

[MarkyMark]

You sure like to harp on stuff that people have already said they're not doing. Once a credible argument by someone else is made you just go back to saying the same untrue shit like you never even read their posts. No one here thinks it's a trans issue but go on keep bringing it up.

Boomer, deranged, snowflake etc. please StARt TaLkING LiKe ThIs NeXt so we can really start to take you seriously. Shit talking on a forum that takes me back, but I thought we are like 40 now lol.

[pastarocket]

Back to Olympic chat!

An exciting photo finish for the men’s 100m final. Noah Lyles backs up his talk with a gold medal win.

He beats the Jamaican runner Kishan Thompson by 5/1000 of a second. .005 seconds!

https://youtu.be/GiZXl2FJwwk?feature=shared

Lyles torso crossed the finish line first:

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[SkinnyPupp]

You sure like to harp on stuff that people have already said they're not doing. Once a credible argument by someone else is made you just go back to saying the same untrue shit like you never even read their posts. No one here thinks it's a trans issue but go on keep bringing it up.

Boomer, deranged, snowflake etc. please StARt TaLkING LiKe ThIs NeXt so we can really start to take you seriously. Shit talking on a forum that takes me back, but I thought we are like 40 now lol.
Because there's nothing else to talk about. "I thought she was trans, but she's not, so it must be some other genetic issue that caused her to be strong" is the point you guys are making. It's a point without any basis, except from a dubious blood test from a disgraced former boxing organization that has been dropped by the IOC and then moved to disgraced country Russia from Switzerland..

So what else is there to say?

Forget boomer or anything else. I'll apologize for that if it genuinely upset you. I'm sorry.

But it's a bad take and that's that. You don't know anything about this person's genetics, so you don't have an argument.

There's nothing more that can be said really.

[Tim Budong]

Back to Olympic chat!

An exciting photo finish for the men’s 100m final. Noah Lyles backs up his talk with a gold medal win.

He beats the Jamaican runner Kishan Thompson by 5/1000 of a second. .005 seconds!

https://youtu.be/GiZXl2FJwwk?feature=shared


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totally believe in the heart of the cards lmao.

anyone see that Chinese male swimmer completely killing it this year in the "slowest" swimming olympics tho...

like he's good, but holy shit is he fucking fast.

[SkinnyPupp]

Spain vs Netherlands beach volleyball was an AWESOME game. I won't spoil it but you should watch that one.

Canada plays USA to meet the winner of that game in the semifinals

[whitev70r]

If you're into tennis, some good stories:

Djokovic beats Alcaraz, Alcaraz has had Joker's number for the past few Grand Slams, Joker finishes the Golden Slam, Gold medal is the only event that he has not won up till now.

Canadian mixed doubles team also medalled.

[mikemhg]

You guys sound crazy as hell arguing about that boxer :lol

There has been a lot of misinformation spread on this whole debacle. Either way check the girl she's fighting next:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/blue-team-thailand-wins-womens-922252564.jpg

They all kinda look like dudes :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

You guys sound crazy as hell arguing about that boxer :lol

There has been a lot of misinformation spread on this whole debacle. Either way check the girl she's fighting next:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/blue-team-thailand-wins-womens-922252564.jpg

They all kinda look like dudes :lol
If some loser quit after one punch from her, this is who everyone would be going after instead. You can see how (non offensive word) this is

[Hondaracer]

That mens 100m was insane

Fuck it’s incredible when athletes are cocky or confident and they actually step up and perform. Lyles what an incredible race.

Was saying to my wife that like the Olympics in a lot of ways show how crazy F1 is. So of course like a swimmer, or a track athlete, etc. they compete quite a bit outside of the Olympics but a gold medal is the ultimate prize. It might be only one time in those 4 years you even get a shot and if the stars don’t align perfectly you miss your chance. Could be anything, jet lag, didn’t eat right, didn’t sleep, just didn’t have it

F1 drivers have to literally be at their peak performance 1000% concentration once a week in a different time zone, potentially across the globe, for up to 2 hours or more, 24 times a year.

If you’ve ever ridden a motor cycle I find that is the only thing I can think of that is basically requiring your full attention 99% of the time.

[SkinnyPupp]

That mens 100m was insane

Fuck it’s incredible when athletes are cocky or confident and they actually step up and perform. Lyles what an incredible race.

Was saying to my wife that like the Olympics in a lot of ways show how crazy F1 is. So of course like a swimmer, or a track athlete, etc. they compete quite a bit outside of the Olympics but a gold medal is the ultimate prize. It might be only one time in those 4 years you even get a shot and if the stars don’t align perfectly you miss your chance. Could be anything, jet lag, didn’t eat right, didn’t sleep, just didn’t have it

F1 drivers have to literally be at their peak performance 1000% concentration once a week in a different time zone, potentially across the globe, for up to 2 hours or more, 24 times a year.

If you’ve ever ridden a motor cycle I find that is the only thing I can think of that is basically requiring your full attention 99% of the time.
I found this interesting - if they still used a gun to start races, he might have lost due to the speed of sound being too slow to make up the time between first and second!

https://i.imgur.com/ACPzeW8.png

[Hondaracer]

Yea, I saw somthing that said 3/1000th is equivalent to a single flap of a bees wings

[Bender Unit]

Team US Men Basketball almost need to assemble their Redeem Team early.
Joker & team were leading the whole game

What are they going to do without Lebron, Curry, & Cupcake Durant 4 year later ?
Tatum kept warming the bench

[Traum]

Damn... apparently our Olympic bronze medal pole vaulter, Alysha Newman, has an OF (side?) hussle, and makes over Cdn $2M from the platform.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canadian-olympic-star-side-hustle

Might need to go check her out. :ifyouknow:

[whitev70r]

Was she the one that twerked after winning bronze? I think pole vault is her side hustle, OF is her main dish.

[SkinnyPupp]

Looks like it's just bikini pics, no different than a typical IG account. Maybe a bit of nipple is shown, or a bare bum (edit after further investigation: or some asshole behind thong)

Good for her getting $2 million a year for that!

[pastarocket]

Noah Lyles gets the bronze medal in the 200m final after testing positive for Covid.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/botswanas-letsile-tebogo-wins-olympic-gold-medal-in-mens-200-m-final/

-quite impressive that a world class athlete can still medal even though he's sick with Covid.

The Botswana runner Letsile Tebogo had a big lead as he run across the finish line to win the gold medal. No strong finish from Lyles.

He gets a second bronze medal to go with his bronze medal at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics in the 200m. -can't win them all! LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

Noah Lyles gets the bronze medal in the 200m final after testing positive for Covid.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/olympics/article/botswanas-letsile-tebogo-wins-olympic-gold-medal-in-mens-200-m-final/

-quite impressive that a world class athlete can still medal even though he's sick with Covid.

The Botswana runner Letsile Tebogo had a big lead as he run across the finish line to win the gold medal. No strong finish from Lyles.

He gets a second bronze medal to go with his bronze medal at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics in the 200m. -can't win them all! LUL
If he did that during the pandemic people would be rioting saying it's proof covid is fake news EleGiggle

[whitev70r]

Team US Men Basketball almost need to assemble their Redeem Team early.
Joker & team were leading the whole game

What are they going to do without Lebron, Curry, & Cupcake Durant 4 year later ?
Tatum kept warming the bench

US had to muster a furious comeback to win vs. Serbia. I kinda want to see Team USA lose. :fullofwin:

[Manic!]

Great to see different countries win medals. Pakistan won its firs track and field medal with a gold and an Olympic world record in the javelin. His buddy from India who one gold in the last Olympics came second.

[pastarocket]

Another gold medal for Canada!

De Grasse leads his teammates on the 4X100 relay team to a gold medal!

37.50 seconds. South Africa and the UK win the silver and bronze medals.

Relay team: Andre De Grasse, Aaron Brown, Jerome Blake and Brendon Rodney.

De Grasse was the anchor for Team Canada. -great to see him and his team mates win the gold medal!! Andre toughed it out while battling a hamstring injury.

[whitev70r]

Awesome, that's a pretty prestigious event, the 4x100 relay.
Beating the US in this is always good! Apparently, they botched the baton handoff.

[pastarocket]

Awesome performance from the men’s relay team for the 4x100 final. Gold medal!!


Great team work with the smooth baton exchanges for Team Canada. A prime example of teamwork in track and field leading to great results despite the lack of success at the individual level for the Canadian men at this Olympic's running events.


De Grasse ran an excellent anchor for the team.


https://youtu.be/gAIivwmc5J0?feature=shared

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[GLOW]

US had to muster a furious comeback to win vs. Serbia. I kinda want to see Team USA lose. :fullofwin:

i don't get why KD is so salty on twitter for people supporting serbia/dokic and giving praise for making it close. he thinks somehow praising someone else is disrespecting him :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

I watched women's breakdancing last night, and it was pretty entertaining. Especially the music.

The field was VERY uneven though. Some great bgirls but also some that you wonder how they qualified. For me Logistix from the US was the best at going WITH the music, and also had power moves and represented what was actually happening the best. But she was against most of the power move bgirls in the round robin, and that's really what the judges were rating the highest.

Ami from Japan was the next best for me, and she won the gold. The Lithuanian girl had the best power moves and she won the silver.

On the low end you had these Moroccan and Portuguese bgirls who moved great but had no power moves to show, so would get wiped in all their rounds.

Then there was the Australian who you wonder how she even qualified. She apparently holds a doctorate in this stuff and researches breakdancing. Okay but that doesn't mean you can actually dance.

https://streamable.com/gbhdit

[GLOW]

Then there was the Australian who you wonder how she even qualified. She apparently holds a doctorate in this stuff and researches breakdancing. Okay but that doesn't mean you can actually dance.

https://streamable.com/gbhdit

they have a doctorate in breakdancing? add that to the list with basketweaving i guess...

her start though...

https://media.tenor.com/fyaPEreLFawAAAAM/bart-lisa.gif

[pastarocket]

i don't get why KD is so salty on twitter for people supporting serbia/dokic and giving praise for making it close. he thinks somehow praising someone else is disrespecting him :lol


100 percent. Durant is Team USA’s cupcake/snowflake. :lawl:


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[CivicBlues]

they have a doctorate in breakdancing? add that to the list with basketweaving i guess...

her start though...

https://media.tenor.com/fyaPEreLFawAAAAM/bart-lisa.gif

and the rest of her "performance" :lol:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/vtZV-Da3wQYAAAAC/homer-simpson-the-simpsons.gif

[mikemhg]

That breakdancing is ridiculous to watch, thank god they're taking it out in 2028.

Grand opening, grand closing.

It's not a damn sport, considering they were going to take wrestling out a while back.

[SkinnyPupp]

I really liked it. If you like power moves, watch the men's competition

Lots of Olympic sports are basically forms of athletic dance, so I don't get the backlash

[pastarocket]

Congrats to Phil Kim! Another gold medal for Canada!!

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[pastarocket]

Fifth straight Olympic gold medal for USA in men’s basketball.

Dream Team is just too much for France.

Steph Curry went into beast mode in the gold medal game. Eight 3 pointers for Chef Curry in the gold medal game.

Curry also made 8 three pointers in the semi final game against Serbia.

When the game was still close, USA coaches just put LeBron and Curry in pick and roll plays to open up the floor for Curry to shoot 3s.


Kudos to Anthony Davis and KD for also playing a strong game.

Curry made a big 3 from well beyond the 3 point arc in the last minute of the game. Double team from France on Curry cannot defend that shot. WOW!

Best shooter ever in basketball.
Check out these stats for Curry:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240810/30551601ba88c9068d542ed41e85abe6.jpg

Curry’s best 3 pointer in the gold medal game:

https://youtube.com/shorts/yNCr_lquzSY?feature=shared


Curry gave those French players nightmares after making his 8 three pointers haha.

The four 3s in the final minutes of the game were daggers.

Good night!

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[Manic!]

To bad breaking will not be return for the LA Olympics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6NlPFdghdQ

[mikemhg]

Too bad :lol

[GLOW]

Ok her PhD is cultural dance, now it makes sense.
She danced how I expected someone with a PhD in cultural dance would dance I guess :lol

[pastarocket]

Mission accomplished for Tom Cruise and the Olympic closing ceremony. :thumbsup:

-always a flair for the dramatic when you have Cruise and his stunts. Hollywood haha.

That moment when that woman who kissed Cruise at 5:37 of the video is gold hahah. -definitely not staged. Cruise looked surprised at the two kisses from that lady haha.

-good singing and guitar playing from Grammy winning artist H.E.R.

Olympics in LA. 2028!

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[SkinnyPupp]

It's funny to look at the detailed scoring for Breakin' and see that Doctor of Breakdancing lady actually get a few scores for originality EleGiggle

The Ukrainian judge was not feeling it though lol

https://i.imgur.com/CZmSzoD.png