[whitev70r]

It's her coming out party this week in Chicago. I guess since she is the official nominee of the Dem party and candidate running against Trump, we should start an official Harris thread.

:clap: ... all the best on ya and wishing you success. I'll be the first to admit that I was surprised of your early 'success' and popularity. Keep it going and hope this thread doesn't fade after November and you have some longevity (which would imply that you won and Trump didn't).

Obi Wan ... you are our only hope.

[68style]

I like that they held it in Chicago, which is the lost city to all Republicans... and that they put a Trump and Vance are weird sign on the Trump Tower lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Watching clips from the convention, AOC killed it. 2032?

[whitev70r]

Warnock hit a home run for me ... like a black Gospel preacher, echoes of MLK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JznC5vZnGOQ

[68style]

Wow Warnock is so inspiring, could always do with less god's children mumbo jumbo but his heart and mind are in the right place which is what counts

[Traum]

Personally (at least for now), I find Hillary to be a far more capable political figure than Harris has been so far, and I am honestly very surprised by how well received (and apparently popular) Harris has become since announcing her intentions to run for the presidency. In many ways, I feel like she found herself in her current position as a result of all the stars aligning just right, and she happens to be the right person at the right place at the right time. But alas, that's how life often turns out.

[68style]

I think it speaks volumes as to just how bad of a candidate Biden had become.

Trudeau should take note...

[Manic!]

The tan suit is back baby!!!

https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2024/08/RTRMADP_USA-ELECTION-DEMOCRATS_2132479489_HP1EK8K04AI4A_2024-08-20T013245Zjpg-JS926280029.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Hillary was so unlikeable that fucking Donald Trump became president. Think about that. He turned the country into literally a joke.

[supafamous]

Personally (at least for now), I find Hillary to be a far more capable political figure than Harris has been so far, and I am honestly very surprised by how well received (and apparently popular) Harris has become since announcing her intentions to run for the presidency. In many ways, I feel like she found herself in her current position as a result of all the stars aligning just right, and she happens to be the right person at the right place at the right time. But alas, that's how life often turns out.

100%. She seems to actually be a pretty clumsy politician when she's put on the spot and asked to explain a policy or position and it's her story that's inspiring, not really her IMO.

She just happens to be a pretty reasonable Democrat that fits the mold of what people are thinking or are open to.

I'll take competence over corruption but I'm keen to see who runs in 8 years to replace her - I like the potential of AOC.

[Badhobz]

now i really want a piece of southern fried chicken w/ butter chicken sauce

[6793026]

i have yet to see hillary in the news lately, i doubt she got the vote internally or the likeability vote despite how well she can action and how she holds herself.

[CRS]

100%. She seems to actually be a pretty clumsy politician when she's put on the spot and asked to explain a policy or position and it's her story that's inspiring, not really her IMO.

She just happens to be a pretty reasonable Democrat that fits the mold of what people are thinking or are open to.

I'll take competence over corruption but I'm keen to see who runs in 8 years to replace her - I like the potential of AOC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP0RzBkab2w

I hope that I'm wrong but I fear that she's too far left to have widespread american appeal. Think Bernie Sanders.

[Traum]

Hillary was so unlikeable that fucking Donald Trump became president. Think about that. He turned the country into literally a joke.
All I can say to that is people are idiots. In particular, enough American voters were idiots who were stupid enough to think Trump would be the more preferable president than Hillary would. And given Trump's 4 years of office, we all know those American voters that voted for Trump were idiots.

[unit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP0RzBkab2w

I hope that I'm wrong but I fear that she's too far left to have widespread american appeal. Think Bernie Sanders.

bernie didnt just lose because he was not well adopted though. actually a lot of centerists liked bernie, even some ppl who lean right liked him because he was so genuine. even joe rogan loved the guy and now that buffoon endorses RFK jr. he could have had the primary but the establishment snubbed him and pushed hillary. i think if he went against trump he could have actually won.

[whitev70r]

All I can say to that is people are idiots. In particular, enough American voters were idiots who were stupid enough to think Trump would be the more preferable president than Hillary would. And given Trump's 4 years of office, we all know those American voters that voted for Trump were idiots.

Actually, Clinton won the popular vote or pure votes for Prez ... it's their electoral college system that tipped it over for Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president

Doesn't minimize the number of idiots in US

[Traum]

Watching clips from the convention, AOC killed it. 2032?
She is definitely a very good speaker, and mostly did her rallying role extremely well in her speech. In particular, her story-telling of her roots as a bartender was extremely effective in getting the average working and middle class Americans to resonate and build rapport.

At the same time, I think she tried too hard to appeal to the lower working class. It just comes across as too much of a hard sell. My eyes rolled and my mind tuned out when she went onto that blitz of "Kamala is for you" LOL~

I also found her Gaza comment to be eye-rolling. Try as she or Harris might, there is no denying or escaping any of the responsibility that the current gov, of which Harris is a crucial part of, has failed Gaza. Harris may well be working her hardest to prevent any further tragedies in Gaza, and may well haved worked her a$$ off to prevent them in the first place. But none of that changed the outcome in Gaza. Trying to spin that failure any other way just seemed like a poor strategy to me.

I hope that I'm wrong but I fear that she's too far left to have widespread american appeal. Think Bernie Sanders.
I agree with this as well. AOC needs to expand her public support among the centralists and right of center if she has any ambitions to shoot for something higher than her House of Representatives seat.

[EvoFire]

She is definitely a very good speaker, and mostly did her rallying role extremely well in her speech. In particular, her story-telling of her roots as a bartender was extremely effective in getting the average working and middle class Americans to resonate and build rapport.

At the same time, I think she tried too hard to appeal to the lower working class. It just comes across as too much of a hard sell. My eyes rolled and my mind tuned out when she went onto that blitz of "Kamala is for you" LOL~

I also found her Gaza comment to be eye-rolling. Try as she or Harris might, there is no denying or escaping any of the responsibility that the current gov, of which Harris is a crucial part of, has failed Gaza. Harris may well be working her hardest to prevent any further tragedies in Gaza, and may well haved worked her a$$ off to prevent them in the first place. But none of that changed the outcome in Gaza. Trying to spin that failure any other way just seemed like a poor strategy to me.


I agree with this as well. AOC needs to expand her public support among the centralists and right of center if she has any ambitions to shoot for something higher than her House of Representatives seat.

The counter point to Gaza, does the average American care? I don't feel like it rings as hard as the Russia/Ukraine conflict. Gaza won't matter to most Americans until it really causes some external conflicts that would halt shipping

[Traum]

I don't have a good grasp on how the average American care about Gaza (or the Russia-Ukraine war, for that matter). People with Jewish or Palastinian ties would obviously care, and it seems like Jewish Americans tend to have more political influence on American politics than Palastinian Americans would.

But in light of the largely failed movements at various universities to protest against the Israeli gov a few months ago, how much do you think the US geneal public care about Gaza? Or were those movements largely confined to young and impressionable ugrad students?

[unit]

how much does the general public care about any issue that doesnt affect them directly? not very much. gaza is a major human rights catastrophe and if people can't care about what's going on there then they probably don't really care about anything outside of their bubble. i'm not casting judgement but that's just the way i see it. it's about as serious as it gets over there.

[68style]

Yah I mean like... from what I can tell, it's pretty atrocious over there.

But it's so hard to tell what the real story is nowadays with all the misleading media stories and manipulation of what's presented to us... that makes me jaded about whether what I'm seeing or reading is factual to a certain extent.

Also not having a great grasp of the politics or realities of the area make me feel like, well, I just don't know enough to through my hat into the arena of opinion on it.

I just wish they'd all stop killing each other trying to appease their stupid sky daddies. That would be a great start.

[AstulzerRZD]

Currently living in the states
Generally left leaning
wtf is with the policy proposals coming out of Kamala camp?

Raising the corporate tax, unrealized capital gains and grocery price control?
How about some sort of way to increase upzoning, reduce car dependence so ppl have more money to spend, and improve healthcare??

Structural changes are the bold bets I was expected, not some BS taxation.

[Hehe]

Currently living in the states
Generally left leaning
wtf is with the policy proposals coming out of Kamala camp?

Raising the corporate tax and groceries?
How about some sort of way to increase upzoning, reduce car dependence so ppl have more money to spend, and improve healthcare??

They can't. Their only strategy is to appeal (*read* buy votes) to the population who has no family and no home in the name of "we care for you so let's fuck the giant corporations and billionaires".

The money that they guarantee will never be enough to do anything meaningful. But it gets that population hooked to the ideology that they depend on the gov't to do anything.

Giant corporations and billionaires move their operations to places where tax/treatments is more favorable, taking away all jobs with them.

More people become this class of people that depend on the gov't.

When they run out of giant corporations and billionaires to tax from, they will change the strategy to "we care for you so let's fuck the big corporations and millionaires".

Rinse and repeat until everyone is equally poor. There you go... their ultimate goal: equal outcomes. To a sense... they will achieve what they want. Everyone is the same.

Don't believe what I said? Look at their policies... nowhere in there is about how to balance the sheet or how to make people/business prosper. It's tax tax and more tax, then benefit, benefit and more benefits.

It never occurred to them the idea that if people are rich with money to spare, you wouldn't need any benefits.

[AstulzerRZD]

fwiw I think it's really hard for corporations to escape the US, market is too large and valuable.

I just think their campaign should've played it safe.
By being "not trump" and light on policy, could probably have picked up enough moderate republican votes.

[Hehe]

fwiw I think it's really hard for corporations to escape the US, market is too large and valuable.

I just think their campaign should've played it safe.
By being "not trump" and light on policy, could probably have picked up enough moderate republican votes.

They will stay for as long as the number makes sense. But the jobs would be gone.

Take a look at Detroit. It was THE place to be half century ago. Now?

These are individuals/corporations who has no problem spending millions of dollars for a highly sophisticated tax scheme that optimizes their taxes and billions of dollars moving their human-hungry operation somewhere else.

But I agree with you. If they have stayed a bit more to the center, they'd probably appeal to more people. Too bad it's all the way to the left.

[68style]

LOL... democrats are NOT all the way to the left.

Not even close man...

They're centrist at best compared to Canada... and downright right wingers compared to a lot of Nordic countries.

[Hehe]

LOL... democrats are NOT all the way to the left.

Not even close man...

They're centrist at best compared to Canada... and downright right wingers compared to a lot of Nordic countries.

You can't compare to Nordic countries. Norway for example has a huge Sovereign fund and their education system is based af.

And on an apple to apple comparison, among all the left and right US president nominees... this is as far left as they have ever been.

[68style]

Oh okay, we can only compare to things that support what you are saying I guess :alone:

[unit]

You can't compare to Nordic countries. Norway for example has a huge Sovereign fund and their education system is based af.

And on an apple to apple comparison, among all the left and right US president nominees... this is as far left as they have ever been.

so what you're saying is democratic socialism can be successful and several countries have pulled it off without becoming venezuela.

[CivicBlues]

You can't compare to Nordic countries. Norway for example has a huge Sovereign fund and their education system is based af.

And on an apple to apple comparison, among all the left and right US president nominees... this is as far left as they have ever been.

Ok, that leaves Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland. Not to mention other socialist-Venezuela-in-waiting-Eurotrash countries like the Netherlands, Germany, France, Switzerland which are all waaay more left leaning than the US Democrats.

BTW the US Democratic party is to the right of the Conservative Party of Canada.

[Hehe]

so what you're saying is democratic socialism can be successful and several countries have pulled it off without becoming venezuela.

For socialism to work, you need to have money and very high level of education/common value.

Unfortunately, US is deep in debt, and the level of education or the right common value is nowhere to be found.

Take a look at what's happening in the US. You have people who are basically plaguing the benefit system and the benefit system is not sustainable.

Norway sovereign fund is 1.7trillion dollar (and growing) for a population of 5.x million of people. Roughly 300k USD per person.

In comparison, US is negative 102k USD.

I'm never against benefits. There is always a place for benefit in our society to those in need. The question is how do you fund it and make sure that it actually make an impact in our society?

The idea of Norway Sovereign fund was to use the wealth generated by their resources to fund their future. Be it their benefit program or other social needs.

In US, without a meaningful way to generate income, it's nothing more than stealing from their future generations to give to the current generation.

People who have no children don't give a fuck. They only care about themselves and how they are going to live decent the rest of their live.

The Dems plan to tax their way out for these benefits. They target the "large corporations and billionaires". But these people would eventually run out. They have the resources to make way (if there's no way) to cheat the system.

Thus, such plan is not sustainable. If they said they'd tax all natural resources, be it food, fossil oil or whatever, they might have something... because it's something that takes time to generate and would continue to generate in the foreseeable future.

The moment they mentioned that they are going to tax the wealthy and large corporations... I can bet my entire networth that this is not sustainable. Because these people are not stupid. It's actually corporation's obligation to find a way to get ahead of it. So, they will invest millions if not billions to cheat. It make financial sense... if by investing a billion dollar can save them 10 billions... why not?

And if you look at similar proposals of Trump on how he plans to finance whatever benefit system, he's actually proposing a single non-discriminative tariff for everything coming into the US, while getting rid of the income taxes.

It's actually similar to what I proposed before... a single non-discriminative low tax on everyone, no structure and money-moving around accounting BS... just a single 10% tax. Because that's what the tariff is going to do. A tax on everyone. But a person making 150k gets to keep almost the entire 150k vs. 100k that they have now.

[Manic!]

I wonder why the us does not have a high level of education?
Could it be because the cons want to keep everyone stupid?

https://i2-prod.irishstar.com/news/us-news/article33489810.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_x-grabs-2.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lWNJmLIT2CA/hq720.jpg

[68style]

Trump is a financial planning genius guys.

He's only declared bankruptcy on assets he's run into the ground 6 times.

Like and subscribe to his tariffs and flat tax plan to Save America now!

[CivicBlues]

Wait what? Did someone jizz next to JD Vance's face on a cup and take a photo of it? The fuck?

[Manic!]

Wait what? Did someone jizz next to JD Vance's face on a cup and take a photo of it? The fuck?

No the jizz is in the cup. They are selling fake JD Vance jizz in cups. Something to do with family values. It's fucking weird.

[CivicBlues]

He must have put in a ton of couch time to get all those cups filled.

[underscore]

Trump is a financial planning genius guys.

He's only declared bankruptcy on assets he's run into the ground 6 times.

Like and subscribe to his tariffs and flat tax plan to Save America now!

Including a Vegas casino of all things. Makes sense that he'd back a flat income tax, the stupidest setup imagineable.

[whitev70r]

K, let's see if the old man Obama (and Michelle) still got it, waiting for his speech tonight!

[SkinnyPupp]

K, let's see if the old man Obama (and Michelle) still got it, waiting for his speech tonight!
He's still got it

[SkinnyPupp]

https://x.com/cjzer0/status/1826095706014134413

[SkinnyPupp]

Michelle also cooked him

https://x.com/MSNBC/status/1826091380420055075

[Hehe]

It's so weird to hear through the DNC. All the speeches were basically "Organge man bad, can't let him back".

When Dems have held the office 12 out of the last 16yrs. And somehow all the problems in America are the result of Trump. :fuckthatshit:

Where the fuck have you guys been and what the fuck did you do all these time? And somehow they want people to believe that giving them another 4yrs is going to change anything.

[68style]

OMG hilarious, criticizing Dem speakers for saying Trump is bad comments interspersed with needing to come together as a nation and respect each other. How awful right? Republican convention speakers were so much better talking about how stupid everyone is and how we need to strip rights away and hate foreigners and that the country is a shithole full of crime. Literally all they do is insult and call people childish names and zero positive hope for anything mixed with thinly veiled hints at violence and corruption.

Where were you the last 16 years?

Things were great in the USA during Obama's time in office, you know when things really went to shit and people got all aggro and our media was filled with hatred and protests and racist acts and USA became unwelcoming? 2016-2020. Who was in office then? Oh yah it was Trump's time in office.

giving them another 4yrs is going to change anything.

Sounds great. Biden's administration did more for people's general prosperity in the last 4 years than Trump has done for anything or anyone in his entire life.

[supafamous]

It's so weird to hear through the DNC. All the speeches were basically "Organge man bad, can't let him back".

When Dems have held the office 12 out of the last 16yrs. And somehow all the problems in America are the result of Trump. :fuckthatshit:

Where the fuck have you guys been and what the fuck did you do all these time? And somehow they want people to believe that giving them another 4yrs is going to change anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#:~ :text=The%20New%20York%20Times%20reported,2.4%20pe rcent%20under%20Republicans...

CNN reported in September 2020 that GDP grew 4.1% on average under Democrats, versus 2.5% under Republicans, from 1945 through the second quarter of 2020, a difference of 1.6 percentage points.[3] The New York Times reported in February 2021 that: "Since 1933, the economy has grown at an annual average rate of 4.6 percent under Democratic presidents and 2.4 percent under Republicans...The average income of Americans would be more than double its current level if the economy had somehow grown at the Democratic rate for all of the past nine decades.

If you look at the table per President you'll that Trump had the worse economic performance of any President. Biggly bad at managing the economy. It's probably what happens when you have small hands.

[supafamous]

https://x.com/ufcolin/status/1826048650121982010

How the Dems gonna win the young white male vote with this? This way too urban for them!

[Hehe]

Well, if you want to go historical, I should also point out that Reps have almost always been cleaning up the mess for Dems. Going as far back Jimmy Carter, where was the highest inflation over 10%. And made a significant negative impact to real disposable income to American adjusted to inflation.

Reagan came in and lowered it to below 5% IIRC, and ever since it has always been Dems presidents raise inflation, Reps lower them. If you factor GDP growth relative to inflation, the Reps actually done better overall.

[supafamous]

Well, if you want to go historical, I should also point out that Reps have almost always been cleaning up the mess for Dems. Going as far back Jimmy Carter, where was the highest inflation over 10%. And made a significant negative impact to real disposable income to American adjusted to inflation.

Reagan came in and lowered it to below 5% IIRC, and ever since it has always been Dems presidents raise inflation, Reps lower them. If you factor GDP growth relative to inflation, the Reps actually done better overall.

What mess you lying shit bag? Which wars did the Dems start? Which financial crises did they start?

https://i.imgur.com/ZbhSHh5.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#In flation

Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats, though inflation tended to rise under Democrats but fall under Republicans.[1]

CNN reported in October 2020 that 10 of the last 11 recessions started under Republican presidents, and that “Every Republican president since Benjamin Harrison, who served from 1889 to 1893, had a recession start in their first term in office

Stock market returns are also higher under Democratic presidents.[21] CNN reported in September 2020 that: “Since 1945, the S&P 500 has averaged an annual gain of 11.2% during years when Democrats controlled the White House, according to CFRA Research. That's well ahead of the 6.9% average gain under Republicans.”[3] Analysis conducted by S&P Capital IQ in 2016 found similar results since 1901.[22] Blinder and Watson estimated that the S&P 500 returned 8.4% annually on average under Democrats, versus 2.7% under Republicans, a difference of 5.7% percentage points. This computation used the average value in last year of the president's term, minus the average value in last year of previous term.[1]

[unit]

It's so weird to hear through the DNC. All the speeches were basically "Organge man bad, can't let him back".

since you're the type to actually watch the rnc im surprised yet not surprised that you cant see how insane the rnc talking points are in comparison.

[whitev70r]

https://x.com/ufcolin/status/1826048650121982010

How the Dems gonna win the young white male vote with this? This way too urban for them.

Yah, I don't really like either party trying to get celebrities to endorse them ... who the hell cares how George Cooney or Taylor Swift or Aaron Rodgers votes.

[68style]

Well, if you want to go historical, I should also point out that Reps have almost always been cleaning up the mess for Dems. Going as far back Jimmy Carter, where was the highest inflation over 10%.

I think that might have a little bit to do with your REPUBLICAN friend Gerald Ford that he replaced... you know... this Gerald Ford? The genius himself? The guy who inconceivably pardoned Nixon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0-AD3bFjF8

Funny enough, yo boy Carter was actually a proponent of several modern day Republican ideals, including deregulation of industry.

[68style]

Yah, I don't really like either party trying to get celebrities to endorse them ... who the hell cares how George Cooney or Taylor Swift or Aaron Rodgers votes.

Americans love celebrity, how else did Reagan ever get into office? Or Trump for that matter.

[Hehe]

What mess you lying shit bag? Which wars did the Dems start? Which financial crises did they start?

https://i.imgur.com/ZbhSHh5.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#In flation

Please go take a look at inflation rates under each presidents. Democrats have usually raised them relative to their corresponding Republicans predecessors, and republicans have usually lowered them after their democrats predecessors.

Learn to actually read instead of just googling for keywords to support your point.

[unit]

hehe why don't you support your own points with data?

[underscore]

Please go take a look at inflation rates under each presidents. Democrats have usually raised them relative to their corresponding Republicans predecessors, and republicans have usually lowered them after their democrats predecessors.

Like supa said right here?

Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats, though inflation tended to rise under Democrats but fall under Republicans.[1]

Learn to actually read instead of just googling for keywords to support your point.

Oh the irony.

[Hehe]

hehe why don't you support your own points with data?

I don’t even need to look for it. It said right there in the link he posted. That’s why I said he needs to learn to actually read the whole thing instead of googling on keywords as he’d miss the whole context.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#In flation

First paragraph:

Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats, though inflation tended to rise under Democrats but fall under Republicans

[Hehe]

Like supa said right here?





Oh the irony.

Indeed.

[unit]

hehe, read the actual source from that wiki paragraph. the cover page of the article linked says this:

Presidents and the US Economy: An Econometric Exploration
Alan S. Blinder
Mark W. Watson

Abstract
The US economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance. For many measures, including real GDP growth (our focus), the performance gap is large and significant. This paper asks why. The answer is not found in technical time series matters nor in systematically more expansionary monetary or fiscal policy under Democrats. Rather, it appears that the Democratic edge stems mainly from more benign oil shocks, superior total factor productivity (TFP) performance, a more favorable international environment, and perhaps more optimistic consumer expectations about the near-term future. (JEL D72, E23, E32, E65, N12, N42)


this is your actual source, not mine.

[Hehe]

If you actually took Econ 101, please explain the relationship of real and nominal.

When you induce inflation like crazy and only measure economy by GDP, of course the data will look better when Dems take place.

That’s why it’s usually the Republicans cleaning up after the Democrats. To balance the inflation.

And if you actually bothered to read actual data rather than rely on googling (hence using Wikipedia as source) you will see the trend of republicans taking policies to reduce inflation while Dems take on policies to induce inflation.

[unit]

again, this is YOUR source buddy.

[Hehe]

this is your actual source, not mine.

I want to point out, this is not a source I trusted. I merely pointed out that Supa was actually supporting my very point with a source that he thought proved his point.

But I think this is what happened.

He saw my post about Reps always cleaning up after Dems, went batshit crazy in disbelief, and googled "which US parties had higher inflation?" or something along that line as a rebuttal.

He then saw the first sentence "Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats" then he jizzed and came back to call me a lying shit bag thinking that he found the perfect evidence.

I kept using that because that very source he used, the Wikipedia page said the very thing I said originally, where Reps are usually Dems' mess cleaner.

No apology anywhere even though I pointed out that the very source he used to call me a "lying shit bag" proved my very point.

So again, read instead of just taking points to support your argument/narrative.

[supafamous]

I don’t even need to look for it. It said right there in the link he posted. That’s why I said he needs to learn to actually read the whole thing instead of googling on keywords as he’d miss the whole context.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#In flation

First paragraph:

Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats, though inflation tended to rise under Democrats but fall under Republicans

Hey dumbass do you know WHY inflation goes up? It's not covered in Econ 101 but it is covered in 201.

https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/causes-of-inflation.html#:~:text=More%20jobs%20and%20higher% 20wages,to%20an%20increase%20in%20inflation.

More jobs and higher wages increase household incomes and lead to a rise in consumer spending, further increasing aggregate demand and the scope for firms to increase the prices of their goods and services. When this happens across a large number of businesses and sectors, this leads to an increase in inflation

Under Democrats inflation increases b/c employment is going up driving up demand resulting in rising inflation. Under Republicans employment decreases and lowers demand resulting in falling inflation.

That average inflation is lower under Democrats is indicative of better financial management - the rise is signal of increased economic performance.

[unit]

I want to point out, this is not a source I trusted. I merely pointed out that Supa was actually supporting my very point with a source that he thought proved his point.

But I think this is what happened.

He saw my post about Reps always cleaning up after Dems, went batshit crazy in disbelief, and googled "which US parties had higher inflation?" or something along that line as a rebuttal.

He then saw the first sentence "Blinder and Watson found that since 1945 the average inflation rate was higher under Republican presidents than under Democrats" then he jizzed and came back to call me a lying shit bag thinking that he found the perfect evidence.

I kept using that because that very source he used, the Wikipedia page said the very thing I said originally, where Reps are usually Dems' mess cleaner.

No apology anywhere even though I pointed out that the very source he used to call me a "lying shit bag" proved my very point.

So again, read instead of just taking points to support your argument/narrative.

if you're going to quote that source in an argument against someone else (me) then you are taking ownership of that source. you can't have it both ways.

[68style]

Maybe hehe can explain the economics of why Trump held a rally in Howell, Michigan yesterday... a population of 10,000 people.

I mean, what are the economics there? Why is a 10,000 people town so important that it gets its own rally from a presidential nominee? Michigan has 10,000,000 people in it, so why go to a town that represents 0.1% of the population for a rally? That seems a bit weird doesn't it?

I wonder why he chose that place?

Oh yah, it's because it's been a hub for KKK actions since the 1970's.

But... economics.

On July 21, 2024, about a dozen masked white supremacists marched through downtown Howell , chanting "Heil Hitler" and carrying signs with messages such as "White Lives Matter" and "End the War on White Children". They began their demonstration on the lawn of the Livingston County courthouse where in 1994 members of the community symbolically scrubbed the steps following a KKK rally.

Several miles east of Howell at the Latson Road/I-96 overpass in Genoa Township, Michigan pictures posted to a community Facebook group showed demonstrators hanging KKK and Nazi flags over the side of the overpass. One of the photos showed them with a Donald Trump flag, while the Livingston Post uploaded a video made by a passerby in which one of the protestors is heard saying, "We love Hitler. We love Trump."

On July 28, 2024, one week after the white supremacist march, at an anti-white supremacist counterprotest in downtown Howell residents cleansed the sidewalk to symbolically wash away the racism.

On August 20,2024, Donald Trump visited Howell for a campaign speech.

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Hey dumbass do you know WHY inflation goes up? It's not covered in Econ 101 but it is covered in 201.

https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/causes-of-inflation.html#:~:text=More%20jobs%20and%20higher% 20wages,to%20an%20increase%20in%20inflation.



Under Democrats inflation increases b/c employment is going up driving up demand resulting in rising inflation. Under Republicans employment decreases and lowers demand resulting in falling inflation.

That average inflation is lower under Democrats is indicative of better financial management - the rise is signal of increased economic performance.

Oh yeah. Not only I did 201, but also 365 and 415.

To give you a short version of why inflation is created is when money generation happens at a quicker pace than real economic output.

And who can generate money out of nothing? The government or the central bank depending how you look at things be it Keynesian or Neo Keynesian.

And the very link you posted, if you follow back to its source and read it as well as many of its own source materials, it will then tell you that Dems have a history of spending money quicker than the economy can produce while reps did the opposite.

Therefore inflation tends to rise under Dems and drops under reps

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I've never heard a person make a credible argument that Republicans are better for the economy, every statistic and economist I've listened to, book read, have always said the exact opposite.

Republicans, most notably the modern neo-conservative flavor are a net negative to the economy, and that's proven by any statistic. If you can prove the opposite, cite that then, Hehe.

You can't, because you're full of shit.

Look how wonderfully bad the Conservatives have run the UK economy over the last 14 years.

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I mean it's totally missing the point... economic arguments are NOT the basis of this election.

Electing someone who is going to tear apart human rights, potentially get rid of elections entirely, promote racist agendas, take away women's rights and impose penalties for being anything but white are some of the issues of this election.

I couldn't care less if there's even a 5% difference in unemployment or 10% inflation gap between a couple of candidates and their policies when that other shit's on the table. The fact that there isn't that economic gap just makes it an even more of a nothingburger topic.

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I mean it's totally missing the point... economic arguments are NOT the basis of this election.

Electing someone who is going to tear apart human rights, potentially get rid of elections entirely, promote racist agendas, take away women's rights and impose penalties for being anything but white is the issue of this election.

I couldn't care less if there's even a 5% difference in unemployment or 10% inflation gap between a couple of candidates and their policies when that other shit's on the table. The fact that there isn't just makes it an even more nothingburger of a topic.

100 percent. My four American cousins, all women, hate Trump for what he stands for. Cheeto is a liar when he says that he knows nothing about "Project 2025".

Project 2025 would destroy American democracy and potentially make the fat Orange a dictator:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

-from the article:

The Project 2025 report was unveiled in April 2023, but liberal opposition to the document has ramped up now that Trump has extended his polling lead.
The Republican nominee himself has distanced himself from the proposal.

"I know nothing about Project 2025," he posted on his social media website, Truth Social. "I have no idea who is behind it.

"I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal."

But the team that created the project is chock-full of former Trump advisers, including director Paul Dans, who was chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management while Trump was president.

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Therefore inflation tends to rise under Dems and drops under reps

Did you miss the part where it said the average is still lower under Dems even when accounting for increases? You're selecting the slimmest of facts to make a claim that Republicans are better at running the economy and citing the one period of high inflation with Jimmy Carter (when inflation was high globally) to make a point that is patently false.

Under Democrats the economy:
- Has higher GDP growth
- Has lower unemployment
- Has lower inflation
- Has higher individual income growth
- Smaller deficits (who's doing the borrowing of money and driving inflation here? Republicans. Who's cleaning up the mess of deficits? Dems)
- Higher stock market returns (11% vs 6% - no small amount)
- Higher corporate profits (13% vs 2%)
- Fewer recessions (10 out of 11 Republicans had one)

Your best friend even chimed in on this:

During a March 2004 interview, Donald Trump stated: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans."

What kind of dumbass are you that you would side with the party that makes you poorer? That causes your stock portfolio to grow slower? To slow your income growth?

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You are missing the point entirely. Neo Keynesian believes that market will adapt and auto correct/balance itself. And it’s what US/CA has been doing. Take turn between liberal/left and conservative/right governments.

But the fact has usually been that Dems or liberals are the one who spend money (raising inflation) and Reps/Conservatives who cut the money output (cutting inflation) to balance the equation.

If you are too confused to understand that concept, I suggest to take more Econ classes. They help. Anything from Econ fundamentals to advance game theory have discussed this topic to death. Just because a statistic is higher or lower doesn’t mean they are better than one another.

You can check all Econ books out there, whether it’s Keynesian or neoclassical oriented, but the fact doesn’t change; Dems tend to raise inflation when they are in power while reps clean up for them so that Dems can spend again on social programs.

In fact, when talking economic growth vs inflation, where you get a sense of real economic growth, Dems have not done much better when their economic growth is deep in the negative region (when inflation did not account for same growth comparing to gdp increases, creating a negative real economic growth)

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Ahhh, Keynesian economics.

Now you're parroting talking points from thinktanks like the Fraser Institute or Heritage Foundation, quite a dated way of thinking, Hehe.
Boring.

How old are you, out of curiosity?

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Oh shit if this is real!!!

https://i.ibb.co/BB3fcL7/ttt.webp

https://i.ibb.co/5974jyr/bbb.webp

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The “surprise” visit by Oprah.. someone only slightly less of a POS than Trump but it’s for da libssssss

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The “surprise” visit by Oprah.. someone only slightly less of a POS than Trump but it’s for da libssssss

You are comparing a person who grew up poor pregnant at 14 who became a billionaire to a guy born with a gold spoon up his ass and somehow bankrupted a casino. How the fck do you run a casino into the ground?

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DNC had prior Republican Party members at their convention, giving speeches on stage, and supporting Kamala. They were able to pull together Democratic members that have been in the party for decades to show their support. Why? Because they're a true party, unlike the cult of personality that has become the Republican party.

The RNC didn't have a single Democrat, much less a Republican that has served in office for more than a term show their support.

Let that sink in.

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You are comparing a person who grew up poor pregnant at 14 who became a billionaire to a guy born with a gold spoon up his ass and somehow bankrupted a casino. How the fck do you run a casino into the ground?

She's more successful but she's still a terrible person.

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So much for integrity and whatever...

https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1828201780544504064

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WTF dude? Did you even actually read what was written in the Meta letter?

While the 3 points that this House Judiciary GOP account mentioned were all factually true, the way they are presented together is clearly meant to mislead.

I don't have much to say about #1 since the remark is simply far too general to make any reasonable comment on. Depending on a lot of other contextual and background information, #1 could be spun into a good, bad, neutral thing, or anything in between.

#2 is kind of similar, although I would also say that FB pretty much did this since their early days, and if any FB user were to claim that they didn't know that's what FB did, they'd be idiots.

#3 is particularly meaningless. It happened because on FB's own accord, they were trying to fact check the news. IMO for a credible news / social media platform, presenting credible information is more important than delivering that new information at breakneck speed. And because of that, it isn't even about free speech.

Assuming that Twitter account is managed by official GOP staff, it's a shame that the GOP is intentionally trying to mislead people. FailFish

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So again, read instead of just taking points to support your argument/narrative.

Actual quote from literally the previous page

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Guess we’re gonna ignore Elon’s totally biased version of free speech via X and Russian oligarch funding too…

Silicon Valley money is all extremely right wing by nature which likely includes Zuckerberg et al anyway.

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#3 is particularly meaningless. It happened because on FB's own accord, they were trying to fact check the news. IMO for a credible news / social media platform, presenting credible information is more important than delivering that new information at breakneck speed. And because of that, it isn't even about free speech.
Not sure how I forgot to mention this because it is something that I will always remember -- during the 2020 POTUS election, the majority of mainstream US media (which are more pro Democrats than pro GOP) have deliberately avoided reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop incident for well over a week -- something like 7 - 10+ days, I seem to remember) even though it really did occurred, and they did so because of the potential (negative) political impact it would have on the Biden campaign. This is extremely shameful, because even though news media could well have a political preference, they still have a fundamental duty to report on current and important news, regardless of whether the news supported their political bias or not. But they have failed to live up to this core value of news media.

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WTF dude? Did you even actually read what was written in the Meta letter?

While the 3 points that this House Judiciary GOP account mentioned were all factually true, the way they are presented together is clearly meant to mislead.

I don't have much to say about #1 since the remark is simply far too general to make any reasonable comment on. Depending on a lot of other contextual and background information, #1 could be spun into a good, bad, neutral thing, or anything in between.

#2 is kind of similar, although I would also say that FB pretty much did this since their early days, and if any FB user were to claim that they didn't know that's what FB did, they'd be idiots.

#3 is particularly meaningless. It happened because on FB's own accord, they were trying to fact check the news. IMO for a credible news / social media platform, presenting credible information is more important than delivering that new information at breakneck speed. And because of that, it isn't even about free speech.

Assuming that Twitter account is managed by official GOP staff, it's a shame that the GOP is intentionally trying to mislead people. FailFish

Enlight me on what part was misleading?

Zuckerberg himself admitted that members of the administration "including the White House" pressured them into censoring content.

Now, regardless of what constitutes as disinformation or whatever... such suppression of voices, when you read this admission and watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHky_Xopyrw

Where Kamala Harris focuses her campaign message on "freedom"... if that's not hypocrisy, I don't know what hypocrisy actually means. They are basically saying "you are free to say whatever as long as it fits our narrative." What kind of freedom is that? It's like what the Chinese official said during the British interview recently: "you can have an opinion on Chinese leader as long as it's positive." :fuckthatshit:

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If you listened to ANY of the DNC, every single speaker stressed ad nauseum about representing all Americans even if they don't agree politically.

Did a single person in the RNC say anything even remotely like that? I'll wait.

Your interpretation of someone's words isn't gospel, what you've written above is just your opinion of what she said with no factual or actualized basis.

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If you listened to ANY of the DNC, every single speaker stressed ad nauseum about representing all Americans even if they don't agree politically.

Did a single person in the RNC say anything even remotely like that? I'll wait.

Your interpretation of someone's words isn't gospel, what you've written above is just your opinion of what she said with no factual or actualized basis.

I don't even care whatever that was said at DNC and RNC... but look at what they actually do.

Yes, RNC can be fucked up at times, but at least they mostly do what they say. You think they are a bunch of conservative and religious-nutjobs? Oh... I agree. But that's better than the hypocrites at DNC that does exactly what they are so up against. They said it's about freedom, and yet the basic freedom of speech seems to be the first thing they are up against. Censoring and suppressing META group is not something I say or some conspiracy theory that I believe in. META's own head honcho came out to say about that. And if you read through the letter, has the Republicans ever been mentioned?!

DNC said it's about democracy... what part of Kamala's nomination was democratic?! They basically handpicked her without giving a flying fuck about their nomination process.

Yes, RNC is not perfect and their policies can be fucked up, but ask yourself... would you rather have someone who does what they believe in or someone who doesn't do anything what they say they believe in? That's why I said "so much for integrity".... which is another one of the big words DNC like to use, and something they have absolutely nothing to show for.

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wow dude just wow... to say that the GOP is the party of integrity.... you should have won a gold at paris in mental gymnastics.

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Yes, RNC is not perfect and their policies can be fucked up, but ask yourself... would you rather have someone who does what they believe in or someone who doesn't do anything what they say they believe in?

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[EvoFire]

I don't even care whatever that was said at DNC and RNC... but look at what they actually do.

Yes, RNC can be fucked up at times, but at least they mostly do what they say. You think they are a bunch of conservative and religious-nutjobs? Oh... I agree. But that's better than the hypocrites at DNC that does exactly what they are so up against. They said it's about freedom, and yet the basic freedom of speech seems to be the first thing they are up against. Censoring and suppressing META group is not something I say or some conspiracy theory that I believe in. META's own head honcho came out to say about that. And if you read through the letter, has the Republicans ever been mentioned?!

DNC said it's about democracy... what part of Kamala's nomination was democratic?! They basically handpicked her without giving a flying fuck about their nomination process.

Yes, RNC is not perfect and their policies can be fucked up, but ask yourself... would you rather have someone who does what they believe in or someone who doesn't do anything what they say they believe in? That's why I said "so much for integrity".... which is another one of the big words DNC like to use, and something they have absolutely nothing to show for.

So you'd like to be friends with some one who tells you they'd rape you in the ass and actually do it, because they got integrity and do as they say. :derp::fulloffuck:

[68style]

Hitler really believed in what he was doing and did exactly what he said he'd do too.

At what point was there ever anyone not named Trump who was a serious nominee for the Republican party? Like... for the last 8-ish years too. There have been 3 democratic nominees in that time... and they were not the party that refused peaceful transfer of power... but they're somehow less about democracy?:fulloffuck:

[underscore]

META's own head honcho came out to say about that.

Oh yeah because he's a real reliable source of information.

[mikemhg]

I wish we had a fail counter next to profiles :lol

[68style]

If you click on someone's profile and go to Statistics you can see fail numbers/frequency stats hahaha

My ratio is pretty good:
Thanked 16,772 Times in 5,606 Posts
Failed 278 Times in 179 Posts

Half of my fails are probably from donk hahaha

[CRS]

I wish we had a fail counter next to profiles :lol

Bring it back, Skinny.

What are you? Afraid of freedom and want to censor us?

:yuno:

[68style]

I think it's cuz some individuals back in the day were fail-bombing all the threads... it was requested from the userbase not Skinny just making a decree

[underscore]

If you click on someone's profile and go to Statistics you can see fail numbers/frequency stats hahaha

My ratio is pretty good:
Thanked 16,772 Times in 5,606 Posts
Failed 278 Times in 179 Posts

Half of my fails are probably from donk hahaha

Sorry but I had to :lol

[Hondaracer]

Wasn’t it like Dinosaur and his/her other clown S/O crying about fails?

[68style]

Sorry but I had to :lol

I knew as soon as I typed it you guys would take good care of me :ahwow:

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah we used to have it but people got really upset about it..

[Badhobz]

Reinstate !!!!

[underscore]

Speaking of older RS features when's the last time someone got points? I feel like I haven't seen the little red flag of shame in ages.

[SkinnyPupp]

As expected I have the most fails by far. Thanks Donk!

[RabidRat]

Speaking of older RS features when's the last time someone got points? I feel like I haven't seen the little red flag of shame in ages.

I found the button!!

[EvoFire]

I found the button!!

You found the button and locked the Vancouver History thread :facepalm:

[westopher]

Wasn’t it like Dinosaur and his/her other clown S/O crying about fails?
Cant even have a fail counter anymore because woke.

[MG1]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PhrWJZO5LaE?si=9zWHYAjlUPykVb4Q

So cute.

[MG1]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/zUXnugZXCW

Old, but different take on Taylor Swift’s response to the clown. Tim Walz’s reaction.

[spoon.ek9]

I've realized something here guys. If you read Hehe's posts in Uncle Roger's accent, it's a lot more entertaining. Give it a whirl :lol

Throw in some Haiyahs and Fuiyohs for extra lols

[SkinnyPupp]

https://x.com/CBSNews/status/1834354779549467087

[Manic!]

I know it's common for presidents to get a dog but Harris should get a cat.

[mikemhg]

Something makes me sad that it takes someone like Taylor Swift to get people to register and vote. A fucking pop star has to encourage people to get out and vote?

What a fucking clown show of a country.

[pastarocket]

Hmm. Pope Francis gives his thoughts on the U.S. presidential election:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-francis-trump-harris-abortion/index.html

Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

Francis, who has been more vocal about politics than his predecessors and has moved to make the Catholic Church more open, has stressed over the years that the issue of abortion cannot be isolated from other human rights concerns, such as immigration.

While Francis maintains the official stance of the church that abortion is a grave sin and slammed Harris on Friday for backing reproductive rights, he also criticized Trump’s immigration policies as “evil.”

“To send migrants away, to leave them wherever you want, to leave them … it’s something terrible, there is evil there. To send away a child from the womb of the mother is an assassination, because there is life. We must speak about these things clearly,” he said.

The Pope is asking American voters to consider what is the "lesser of two evils". Anti-immigrant Trump or Reproductive Rights Kamala.

[Great68]

I mean Catholics are free to not get abortions for themselves...

[EvoFire]

I mean Catholics are free to not get abortions for themselves...

Certain branches think birth control is a sin, so I dunno. There are some pretty crazy wack jobs in religious circles.

[westopher]

Separation of church and state motherfuckers.

[Hondaracer]

Maybe Vatican City should start taking in refugees

[westopher]

Probably more dangerous for refugees under 12 than wherever they are coming from.

[pastarocket]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/politics/microsoft-russian-operatives-harris/index.html

Those Russians really want Trump to be president again. No surprise. -their misinformation strategies are pretty sophisticated thanks to X, and A.I.

Microsoft said Tuesday that Russian operatives have in recent weeks intensified their online attacks on Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign by producing and disseminating videos promoting “outlandish conspiracy theories” aimed at stoking US racial and political divisions.

One of the inauthentic videos, which Microsoft said had been viewed millions of times, claimed to show Harris supporters attacking an attendee of a Donald Trump rally. Another video falsely claimed that Harris paralyzed a young girl in a 2011 hit-and-run accident. Russian operatives promoted the latter story through a website pretending to be a local San Francisco media outlet, Microsoft researchers said.

Both videos were still accessible on X as of Tuesday afternoon, with one post of the video garnering 1.5 million views on its own. CNN has requested comment from the social media platform.

[Hakkaboy]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/politics/microsoft-russian-operatives-harris/index.html

Those Russians really want Trump to be president again. No surprise. -their misinformation strategies are pretty sophisticated thanks to X, and A.I.

Microsoft said Tuesday that Russian operatives have in recent weeks intensified their online attacks on Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign by producing and disseminating videos promoting “outlandish conspiracy theories” aimed at stoking US racial and political divisions.

One of the inauthentic videos, which Microsoft said had been viewed millions of times, claimed to show Harris supporters attacking an attendee of a Donald Trump rally. Another video falsely claimed that Harris paralyzed a young girl in a 2011 hit-and-run accident. Russian operatives promoted the latter story through a website pretending to be a local San Francisco media outlet, Microsoft researchers said.

Both videos were still accessible on X as of Tuesday afternoon, with one post of the video garnering 1.5 million views on its own. CNN has requested comment from the social media platform.

fake news.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that he wants Vice President Kamala Harris to win the U.S. presidential election in November — not former President Trump.

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/05/putin-harris-trump-2024-election-russia-interference

/S

[Manic!]

He's a car guy. Would like to see trump or vance try to make a video like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-B0_OKkeg

[Traum]

That's a smart and down-to-earth campaign ad. Really reaches out to the average American "middle class" voter.

[MG1]

He's a car guy. Would like to see trump or vance try to make a video like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-B0_OKkeg

Does Trump even know how to drive anything other than a golf cart?

[Hondaracer]

https://i.imgur.com/DRnIYad.jpeg

[Manic!]

https://static.toiimg.com/thumb/msid-112611766,width-1280,height-720,imgsize-998256,resizemode-6,overlay-toi_sw,pt-32,y_pad-40/photo.jpg

[Manic!]

What a burn

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1840435252923080980

[pastarocket]

Thoughts on the CNN Town Hall Q and A with Kamala?


VP Harris answered a question about fighting companies who are price gouging Americans.

Kamala went on the attack on Trump.

“If Trump were elected president, he would put in a national sales tax of 20 percent on essential goods. Independent economists say that would mean each American would pay an extra 4000 dollars per year on essential items like groceries”.


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[whitev70r]

Didn't see the TH but I think there isn't any more convincing. Everyone who will vote has already decided and nothing will change their minds. Harris seems to be losing poise and her calmness and getting baited. Glad this shitshow will end in about 2 weeks ... or should I stay, will just start in 2 weeks?

I hope to God that the Dems are quietly and efficiently working the ground game to get their supporters out to vote.

[68style]

She's lost a lot of steam, should stop making promises on policies and being specific about stuff, it just opens up to arguments and analysis and rebuttals and construing of facts.

Take a page out of Trump's book, he never says anything specific about what he's going to do, just broad meandering strokes that nobody knows where to start with to argue against.

All she needs to be is not be the crazy lunatic choice. All her homeruns are from labelling Trumpers as weirdos who never go outside and see the world isn't collapsing.

[Traum]

WTF... Somehow the social media algorithm has deemed that I am a Harris supporter, and is now feeding me Harris-supporting memes non-stop. FailFish

[SkinnyPupp]

WTF... Somehow the social media algorithm has deemed that I am a Harris supporter, and is now feeding me Harris-supporting memes non-stop. FailFish
Between the two, wouldn't you much rather have it make that assumption? :badpokerface:

"I can't believe the algorithm doesn't think I would support a multiple time felon rapist child molsester fascist! What is wrong with the internet these days!"

[Traum]

Mistakening me for a Trump supporter might have brought up some more entertaining / cringe-inducing memes though. For pure entertainment value, that might have been the better choice lol~

[SkinnyPupp]

Fair enough LUL

[snowball]

WTF... Somehow the social media algorithm has deemed that I am a Harris supporter, and is now feeding me Harris-supporting memes non-stop. FailFish

I hate how social media algorithms just feed echo chambers. Really a major part of the problem of politics these days on both sides.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://streamable.com/jjky3u

[Manic!]

She should have done it sooner but better late than never.

https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1853195722864132590

[Hehe]

/close_thread

:fuckthatshit:

[GS8]

Whooo dis?

[murd0c]

This thread can now be locked, we won't be hearing from her again LOL

[whitev70r]

Should the Trump Thread be Trump 3.0?

1.0 was his run up and 1st term.
2.0 was his lost and the 4 yrs in between.
3.0 is his 2nd presidency.

[AzNightmare]

Should the Trump Thread be Trump 3.0?

1.0 was his run up and 1st term.
2.0 was his lost and the 4 yrs in between.
3.0 is his 2nd presidency.

Maybe 2.0 thread should really be more of a 1.5

2.0 sounds more fitting for his 2nd run at Presidency.

[CivicBlues]

Should the Trump Thread be Trump 3.0?

1.0 was his run up and 1st term.
2.0 was his lost and the 4 yrs in between.
3.0 is his 2nd presidency.

Trumper: Folie à deux