[Manic!]

Mission brief:

You plan on driving all over Canada in all types of weather for days to weeks at a time. What vehicle are you choosing?

[Badhobz]

Lexus Ratrolla of course.

Top up, top down, doesn't matter the climate control is enough to even keep you warm in sub zero temps. Big v8 with enough revs (7300rpm redline) and torque to have fun if the road gets twisty, but muted enough to do sub 1500rpm while cruising at 120km/h.

Oh and reliable as a Japanese clock. No need to worry about it crapping out along the way.

Supremely comfortable and technologically adequate (you get apple car play so that's pretty much all you need).

[EvoFire]

With wife only, do everything very comfortably with minimal constraints? Probably a X5 m50i
With wife only, a fun car and and we can pack efficiently? 911 GTS in manual

With the kids, X5 m50i or Odyssey. I think I'd probably pick the X5. The split tail gate is amazing. There's enough space if we stay in a hotel. Camping for a week would be tough.

[noclue]

Realistically, GM luxury full size SUV, yukon or escalade.
Comfortable with magnaride, Reliable, cheap and widely available parts, plentiful dealer networks across north america. Can run on regular gas.
Has a block heater, good luck starting a ratrolla or high performance suv in -43C in the prairies.

Unrealistic, bentley continental GT/Bentayga or range rover.

[JDMDreams]

Cl65, or whatever they call it now s650 maybach

[supafamous]

E450 wagon if I'm being "realistic" (bring the family) but a 911 otherwise (go by myself)

[Gerbs]

Probably Lexus LC500

[red kryptonite]

911 turbo s by myself
cayenne turbo gt with passengers

[radeonboy]

Realistically, same as Evofire between a B58 SUV (X5 / X7) or a Honda Odyssey. I've road tripped a few times with a X7 and it's plenty comfortable thanks to the smooth ride from the air suspension and creature comforts inside.

Unrealistically I'd take an Alpina XB7 for that extra performance.

[TopsyCrett]

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0a361f91a68e761d62873c68221923cf7383e0bf/hub/2020/09/04/14f4aebc-2f46-4c80-aa4c-b49ffc6a4e74/2020-mercedes-amg-s63-cabriolet-ogi-1.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200

[68style]

LC500 for sure...

[bcrdukes]

VW Golf R

[trollface]

VW Golf R with reps

Soft wheels = smooth ride

[Badhobz]

yah but it wont make it. The piece of shit mk8 / mk8.5 Golf will start calling SOS for no reason and the squeaks and rattles coming from the door trim will drive you off a cliff.

[hud 91gt]

Porsche Panamera. Maybe lifted. Lol.

[trollface]

I drive a car from 1969.

You have no idea what squeaks and rattles are.

[Badhobz]

well you aint taking that rice box on a road trip across canada anyways so its moot. You only keep it in the garage for lawls.

[trollface]

What I do in private to it is my own business.

[AstulzerRZD]

14hr Banff / Montreal / Maine drives r my thing
Here’s what I’m requesting in the rental lane:

super relaxing:
- BMW iX: best hands free auto drive & lane change, crazy good seats
- Escalade: better controls and dynamics than X5/6
- Dodge Charger/Durango/Jeep GC/Ram 1500
- new Prius/Camry

Need to try
- Lucid
- Lexus LC
- MB EQS/new E and S class
- Porsche Taycan/Panamera/non base Cayenne
- F150 Lightning WITH BlueCruise

cancelled
- Any BMW without air suspension: tbh even with it the G series on center steering is sloppy
- Any lower tier Lexus product, esp IS/NX/RX
- Rivian R1: amazing dynamics but terrible ride quality
- Any Tesla: highland 3 still gives u bumps u can’t see
- Any Hond/Acura incl new Civic/Accord/CRV: still loud
- Audi A5 SB/SQ5: unstable braking, no confidence after ripping a pass
- Audi Q7: 2.0 and 2.9 both thirsty and laggy
- Any Genesis: G80/GV80 sound insulation still bad

[pastarocket]

Lexus LX or if I go with zie German ride a Maybach GLS.

[bcrdukes]

VW Golf R

VW Golf R with reps

Soft wheels = smooth ride

Oops, I forgot to log out.

[supafamous]

14hr Banff / Montreal / Maine drives r my thing
Here’s what I’m requesting in the rental lane:

super relaxing:
- BMW iX: best hands free auto drive & lane change, crazy good seats
- Escalade: better controls and dynamics than X5/6
- Dodge Charger/Durango/Jeep GC/Ram 1500
- new Prius/Camry


A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.

[noclue]

A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.

Trucks are the best for road trips/camping. Ram trucks use coilover rear springs with air suspension instead of a solid axle so just as comfy as a luxury suv. Anything that smells can be thrown in the back, and most modern trucks have an electric outlet in the bed to charge whatever accessories or an induction cooktop. It’s a shame that asian culture associate trucks with poor laborers although I see more and more mainlanders driving raptors in richmond.

[Badhobz]

what.... smelly things are you putting in the back of the truck?!?! if you got shipments of durian coming in, let me know! i want one.

lousy laborer !

[noclue]

Jerry cans, portable bbq etc

[AstulzerRZD]

A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.


Yeah even a mid trim RAM makes a F150 Platinum look like a tarted up Sentra.
It’s interior quality, materials, etc is that good.

My issue with pickups is actually braking:
6000lbs on all terrain 275s is kinda sketch at 140kmh or around a corner.

Heard hurricane blows dicks for any real use - it’s up 200hp from Hemi but tow rating is down cuz they can’t cool them properly.

[noclue]

Yeah even a mid trim RAM makes a F150 Platinum look like a tarted up Sentra.
It’s interior quality, materials, etc is that good.

My issue with pickups is actually braking:
6000lbs on all terrain 275s is kinda sketch at 140kmh or around a corner.

Heard hurricane blows dicks for any real use - it’s up 200hp from Hemi but tow rating is down cuz they can’t cool them properly.

Plus all the stellantis crap of unreliability.

[AstulzerRZD]

Plus all the stellantis crap of unreliability.

Expectation for performance and emissions is gonna kill Nissan/Stellantis.

Some other manufactures will get saved - GM, Hyundai, BMW make banger EVs but awful gas cars.

Toyota? Man their trucks are blowing engines/trans and their EVs also suck

[bcrdukes]

How did this thread turn into AstulzerRZD talking to himself?

[AstulzerRZD]

Bro clearly has beef with trucks ^

[dark0821]

Realistic .... my prius prime

If given enough time to prep for once in a life time road trip.... hopefully a 911 that still has 3 pedals... (ie save up like crazy and make smart choices and be ready to do it when I retire lololol) Hopefully gas is not $10/L or $35/gallon lolollolololol this is just stupid talk... but honestly will be a 997.2 GTS... just modern enough to have bluetooth, but old enough to be a 911... plus this is the gen that I grew up with.... this was my desktop background for the longest time...

https://i.imgur.com/Qual3mU.jpeg

Yes yes yes I know this is not a GTS lololol, I wouldnt want a GT3 RS for road trip anyways... and honestly, its just out of reach~

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Unrealistic OR win LOTTO tmrw... The 812 GTS... top down for the good weather, roof up for bad weather, u-turn for snow.... LOL.... NA V12 that max output @ 8500 but will rev out to 9000

It is a "grand tourer" per Ferrari, I know its not comfortable, but its the theater and drama.

I acutally like the looks of the F12 better, but no way I am putting that much miles on a limited-series drop top F12 lololol, the 812 GTS will just be cheaper to run and technically more reliable~~

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Or you know....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwizNjFTc1M

But be dammed my first prancing horse be a SUV lolol

[trollface]

The real answer is a 70's caddy, drop top.

[Manic!]

Ok my choices.

GR Corolla
Pro's
Manual so it's fun to drive
AWD so It can handle snow no problem
It's a Toyota so if it was problems it won't be hard to find a shop to fix it.

Con's
Interior could be better
Sound system sucks but that can be fixed

Used R35 GTR

Pro's
150 more HP than the GR
AWD so great in snow

Cons

Not a manual
Might be hard to find a used one that's not beat on

Why used because it's not worth 200k plus for a new one.

[Badhobz]

The real answer is a 70's caddy, drop top.

Hey fuck you for stealing my avatar !!!

[dark0821]

oh fuck, i didnt even notice!

[Hehe]

If money's no issue and I can pick any car... the most realistic would be the recently discontinued Acura NSX.

It's super fun to drive, reliable so that I'm not worried breaking down in the middle of nowhere and the seating in for relatively long period (I was in for 2 days) was decent enough that my back wouldn't hate me.

[68style]

If money's no issue and I can pick any car... the most realistic would be the recently discontinued Acura NSX.

It's super fun to drive, reliable so that I'm not worried breaking down in the middle of nowhere and the seating in for relatively long period (I was in for 2 days) was decent enough that my back wouldn't hate me.

People sleep on this car to this day, but honestly it's a performance bargain... supercar if not hypercar numbers with a small amount of tuning (charge pipes + exhaust) and they're relatively cheap save for the final production year which go for almost twice the earlier ones.

[!LittleDragon]

Bought my G90 for exactly this. Big comfy, NA V8, quiet interior, good audio, big trunk, openpilot equipped. Drove to Vegas and California a few times and it's been great.

If money isn't an issue, RR Wraith

[JDMDreams]

How's nsx good? It's like $200k. Can't you get that in a c8 for half the price and looks same same. Or gtr for $100

[Badhobz]

It’s still 200k?!! Than it’s stupid. That interior is garbage for a 200k car.

I got a hankering for a lucid sapphire air recently. Haven’t tried it yet but all the reviewers love it.

[BIC_BAWS]

I got a hankering for a lucid sapphire air recently. Haven’t tried it yet but all the reviewers love it.

Did atlutzerrtd get to you ... Shake your head from right to left if you are not ok

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

[68style]

How's nsx good? It's like $200k. Can't you get that in a c8 for half the price and looks same same. Or gtr for $100

Depends what you want I guess, Corvette looks nothing like the NSX in my opinion, NSX looks 100x classier and doesn't have the shitty Corvette image. People roll their eyes when a C8 drives up to anything, but nobody eyerolls the NSX. GTR is like a 20 year old car with no changes and a glass tranny.

3,500 made worldwide in 6 years of production is pretty exclusive, the price will stay the same or go up over time. If our dollar was competitive, there's quite a few available in the $120-140k range in the US. Only the 2022 Type-S with the ugly (my opinion) Lambo looking facelift has people asking $250k+ usd... for me I'd look for a 2019-2021 with mild updates and paint matched beak. Only about 500 made in 3 years they will be double the price they are now in 10 years.

C8 and GTR are just going to depreciate constantly.

[underscore]

What kinda vehicle kinda depends on what kinda driving specifically. If I'm solo/with the wife and limited to highways or going past the Rockies give me an S class. Same deal but with the family give me whatever the plushest van is these days.

If I'm staying in BC and able to take at least back highways it has to be manual. With the all kinds of weather requirement it'd be better to have AWD so I'm probably landing in a GR Corolla. If it was fair weather only I'd prefer something 2WD though.

A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.

I'd take a minivan over a truck for a basic highway blast road trip. Nice and plush with way better use of space. If I needed to haul something that requires a truck a Stellanis product would be my last choice lol.

[trollface]

If money wasn't an issue, id be rich

[Badhobz]

You are rich you bastard. You live in one of the nicest parts of Richmond. Your Neighbor crashes into corollas for lawls and you have like 3-4 cars on your driveway plus that weirdo jap box in the garage.

All those hours of overtime at Wendy’s is paying off.

Speaking of which can you help me with my clutch delay valve ? I don’t have a bleeder machine or any of those caps to stop the juice from flowing out of the valve if I rip it out.

[teggy604]

I'd take an 80 series Toyota Landcruiser. Reliable, simple, and spacious.

[EvoFire]

I'd take an 80 series Toyota Landcruiser. Reliable, simple, and spacious.

I'd be terrified driving that at 120 on the coq though.

[teggy604]

^ You don't have to go 120km/h. Whatever is a safe speed to get to your destination safely. I just enjoy the drive on the slow lane and let people pass me. Lol.

[noclue]

I'd take an 80 series Toyota Landcruiser. Reliable, simple, and spacious.

You want comfortable, well insulated cars with a great audio system for road trips. the 80 series landcruiser is like the G-wagon, wrangler and bronco; just awful on the highway.

[Badhobz]

You want comfortable, well insulated cars with a great audio system for road trips. the 80 series landcruiser is like the G-wagon, wrangler and bronco; just awful on the highway.

that applies to the wrangler, bronco and G wagon too. They are all terrible on the highway :pokerface:

[roastpuff]

A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.

Trucks are the best for road trips/camping. Ram trucks use coilover rear springs with air suspension instead of a solid axle so just as comfy as a luxury suv. Anything that smells can be thrown in the back, and most modern trucks have an electric outlet in the bed to charge whatever accessories or an induction cooktop. It’s a shame that asian culture associate trucks with poor laborers although I see more and more mainlanders driving raptors in richmond.

A Ram 1500 would be an interesting road trip vehicle - I hear the ride quality is fantastic and the interior is super-luxe (and that Hurricane turbo motor). I'd hate to drive it in a city though - just way too big in a lot of places.

I miss my Ram 1500 (classic I guess now) for road trips. That thing was a cruiser - effortless eating of KMs on the highway, cushy suspension, great stereo, super quiet. Cruise at 120-140 all day long with no sweat. Tons of room and interior storage, I had so much room for snacks in the center console and so many cupholders to use lol.

Only time it was bad was for parking, otherwise not too bad in the city.

Yeah even a mid trim RAM makes a F150 Platinum look like a tarted up Sentra.
It’s interior quality, materials, etc is that good.

My issue with pickups is actually braking:
6000lbs on all terrain 275s is kinda sketch at 140kmh or around a corner.

Heard hurricane blows dicks for any real use - it’s up 200hp from Hemi but tow rating is down cuz they can’t cool them properly.

I miss my Hemi. Also, I hustled that Ram from Pemberton to Vancouver General in 1.5h before when my wife's Grandma was dying.

[EvoFire]

Most cars made in the last 20 years will handle S2S at 120 with no problems. The drivers not so much.

[Badhobz]

At the speeds most of these retards go at, I think a model T can handle sea to sky.

[red kryptonite]

I miss my Ram 1500 (classic I guess now) for road trips. That thing was a cruiser - effortless eating of KMs on the highway, cushy suspension, great stereo, super quiet. Cruise at 120-140 all day long with no sweat. Tons of room and interior storage, I had so much room for snacks in the center console and so many cupholders to use lol.

Only time it was bad was for parking, otherwise not too bad in the city.

agreed! when we drove down to san fran last summer the tundra ate up those KM like it was nothing. threw everything (2 duffles, gifts, 4 coolers) in the bed and took turn using the rear seats to relax and nap.

[teggy604]

You want comfortable, well insulated cars with a great audio system for road trips. the 80 series landcruiser is like the G-wagon, wrangler and bronco; just awful on the highway.

Fair. I am thinking road trips that go off the beaten path. My friend has a Wrangler Rubicon, and while it's no S class, it's comfortable enough. Lol.

[Hondaracer]

What kinda vehicle kinda depends on what kinda driving specifically. If I'm solo/with the wife and limited to highways or going past the Rockies give me an S class. Same deal but with the family give me whatever the plushest van is these days.

If I'm staying in BC and able to take at least back highways it has to be manual. With the all kinds of weather requirement it'd be better to have AWD so I'm probably landing in a GR Corolla. If it was fair weather only I'd prefer something 2WD though.



I'd take a minivan over a truck for a basic highway blast road trip. Nice and plush with way better use of space. If I needed to haul something that requires a truck a Stellanis product would be my last choice lol.

Newer half ton pickups are more comfortable in every way than a mini van.

More spacious front seats, infinitely nicer interior, better feel cruising 120+
Etc.

The only time you’d ever trade them off would be to haul 5+ people. The bench seat on the back of an F150 is more comfortable than the middle seats in most vans imo.

[underscore]

Traveling with kids having everything inside the cabin is much better. Even in a big truck when you do that it always feels like it's in the way and I don't want to be outside digging through a bunch of frozen stuff on the side of the highway. Especially when you're in the middle of nowhere and a toddler needs the travel toilet.

[noclue]

Newer half ton pickups are more comfortable in every way than a mini van.

More spacious front seats, infinitely nicer interior, better feel cruising 120+
Etc.

The only time you’d ever trade them off would be to haul 5+ people. The bench seat on the back of an F150 is more comfortable than the middle seats in most vans imo.

The only bad thing is that the rear seats dont recline unless you have the ram mega-cab configuration

[Hondaracer]

Well yea you said the magic word, Kids lol

No one buying some touring car with a bunch of kids. An F150 with a Tonneau cover would infinitely more usable than some sport wagon

Comfort wise for a few people there isn’t a mini van on the market that competes with the fit and finish of Laramie rams or Lariat F150s

[EvoFire]

Minivans are gonna be pretty miserable drives most of the time on anything that's not straight. We don't have luxury minivans and in that sense a Ram is going to be nicer to be in.

That's where a good SUV is a better trade off if you don't have dirty stuff to throw in the trunk. My experience with SUVs is mainly with compact size and midsize stuff and most of them drive better than a van. I've never driven a pickup long distance so I can't tell. Around town though, I find pickup trucks miserable, but my experience is also limited to a 2500. I've never really driven a half ton truck.

[underscore]

Well yeah the only time I'd be hauling that much stuff is with kids. I'd never pick something that large just for me but if I do need something that large I'll always pick a minivan over a truck for the reasons above, a tonneau cover still won'tmake it nearly as good. I really don't like trucks though lol. I've spent a lot of hours on highways in trucks and it always sucked ass.

[radeonboy]

Minivans are gonna be pretty miserable drives most of the time on anything that's not straight. We don't have luxury minivans and in that sense a Ram is going to be nicer to be in.

That's where a good SUV is a better trade off if you don't have dirty stuff to throw in the trunk. My experience with SUVs is mainly with compact size and midsize stuff and most of them drive better than a van. I've never driven a pickup long distance so I can't tell. Around town though, I find pickup trucks miserable, but my experience is also limited to a 2500. I've never really driven a half ton truck.

https://i.ibb.co/QrKK1Gx/Pacifica-PHEV.jpg

I'm in a rental Pacifica at the moment and this PHEV is a dream to drive around American roads. The hybrid powertrain is smooth for city driving and still packs a punch when flooring it on the highway. Between the smooth powertrain and interior comfort, the Pacifica would easily make it to the top of my list if I need to do a North American road trip with a family - it's definitely not a miserable experience even if it's just me in the car.

Right before this rental, I was in a Yukon Denali that Budget gave me for not having a Pacifica to loan me. I thought the Yukon would be just as good, but I wasn't a huge fan of the truck-ish ride and power delivery from the engine. It doesn't help that I'm also used to driving lower cars, so driving something tall like the Yukon felt like navigating a monster truck in comparison.

[bcrdukes]

When I moved to Toronto in 2016, I ended up with a Pacifica for a bit over a week. I used it to move furniture and my stuff from the airport to the condo. I had a very similar experience to radeonboy's rental, except at the time, it was just a regular gas motor, and no PHEV option was available. I can assure you that I wasn't going to win any 0-60 challenges, or auto cross titles. Same experience for me when I got a Yukon Denali rental when I went to Dawson Creek for work once. I didn't see Katie Holmes. :okay:

[AstulzerRZD]

https://i.ibb.co/QrKK1Gx/Pacifica-PHEV.jpg

The hybrid powertrain is smooth for city driving and still packs a punch when flooring it on the highway. It's definitely not a miserable experience even if it's just me in the car..

The hybrid is a lot better than the normal one, the ZF9 speed in the gasser takes 2 business days to downshift. How are you finding charging?

The Odyssey drives way better than Sienna/Pacifica - feels wider, lower to the ground, and the 10 speed/J35 is a total gem but the Honda seats are iffy for a road trip.

[AstulzerRZD]

I can assure you that I wasn't going to win any 0-60 challenges, or auto cross titles. Same experience for me when I got a Yukon Denali rental when I went to Dawson Creek for work once. I didn't see Katie Holmes. :okay:

Back in college days, I tracked a couple pre-production minivans as chase cars:

1) Dodge Caravan: terrible trans won’t hold a gear, better power than Pacifica, can’t left foot brake because the seats are terribly flat.

2) Pacifica: better seats helps this rotate. With some trail braking it will bite and come around …. but terrible trans doesn’t give you any power to pull out of it. Need to be thinking half a corner ahead with this one.

3) Last Gen Sienna: best headroom for helmet, super short gearing, best damping and reasonable steering but holy shit the brakes are bad. t/C turns itself back on at 50kmh.

[EvoFire]

Toyota brakes have always been bad, I find they are undersized and their commuters typically can only handle one, maybe two high speed stops.

Your experience using them as chase cars shows that, they are really all only great for straight interstate travel.

We had a last gen Town & Country for my bachelor party. For 5 guys just bumbling along the highway, getting food, and bumming around town it was great. Zero need for any performance.

Toyota and Honda has enough experience to make them more performance oriented, but as Toyota has shown with their latest "lifted" model with the Sienna, they know where their market is and it's not performance vans. I think more people would be interested in a Sienna with more ground clearance than one that can go around a corner quicker.

[supafamous]

https://www.theautopian.com/did-you-know-that-the-honda-odyssey-is-the-only-minivan-in-america-with-its-own-racing-team/

The Honda boys race the Odyssey.

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/Honda_Odyssey_Racing_TS2.jpg

[EvoFire]

You can race anything but that's also not streetable

[radeonboy]

The hybrid is a lot better than the normal one, the ZF9 speed in the gasser takes 2 business days to downshift. How are you finding charging?

The Odyssey drives way better than Sienna/Pacifica - feels wider, lower to the ground, and the 10 speed/J35 is a total gem but the Honda seats are iffy for a road trip.

I didn't charge during the trip because a) the rental didn't come with a cable (I didn't ask for one either), and b) I didn't really have a place to charge when it's parked overnight.

From the limited miles I gained from downhill regen, it was nice to have smooth and quiet EV acceleration for the first 10/km/h or so. California roads are pretty quick so I had to accelerate pretty hard which kicked the engine on.

I lived with a current-Gen Odyssey many years ago - that things was a riot for a minivan. If I needed a minivan, I would lease a Pacifica Hybrid but purchase and Odyssey for keeping long-term.

[lowside67]

Just saying but the interior of my Durango RT V8 is surprisingly nice, and it's got a Hemi, a good 8spd trans, Brembo brakes, and can seat 7, but fold the seats down and I took a huge run of stuff to the dump recently including pallets.

-Mark

[AstulzerRZD]

Durango's dope - it's keeping the 6.4 and 5.7 HEMI alive for another year or two.
It even does upshift braps

They're really a ML/GL with a much better transmission, motor, and responsive touchscreen.

https://www.dodge.com/content/dam/fca-brands/na/dodge/en_us/2024/durango/gallery/desktop/my24-durango-gallery-04.jpg.image.1440.jpg

[lowside67]

https://mkt-vehicleimages-prd.autotradercdn.ca/photos/import/202307/0902/0718/ca24f962-8fe0-4840-a5d4-d9a93953d7c6.jpg-1024x786

Mine is a twin to this. It's not the best vehicle in the world, but for the money, it goes pretty good, makes a good noise, has a good stereo. I'm reasonably happy with it.

-Mark

[Badhobz]

they have some presence on the road too. not your generic blob suv.

[bcrdukes]

Is this your fun car hauler? :)

[JDMDreams]

Aren't you supposed to drive those with the doors off :awwyeah:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EHZs3ZDwm_U/hqdefault.jpg

[EvoFire]

I love the Durangos. It's been on the market for what? 10 years now? There's not much like it. I actually love most Dodge products, but can't stand to own one.

I remember looking at Charger SRT8 back in the day. Those things were cheap. 50k for a V8 whereas the Fiat 500 sitting a few cars away was asking for 20k.

[68style]

I like them too... altho whenever I see them in Calgary they're constantly doing pulls on Crowchild with exhaust blathering away and generally being douchebags

Good to know a few lowside67's are amongst their ownership group lol

[EvoFire]

I like them too... altho whenever I see them in Calgary they're constantly doing pulls on Crowchild with exhaust blathering away and generally being douchebags

Good to know a few lowside67's are amongst their ownership group lol

Those are usually V6's.... It's always the V6 Chargers and Durangos and Mustangs with the loudest exhausts

[lowside67]

I like them too... altho whenever I see them in Calgary they're constantly doing pulls on Crowchild with exhaust blathering away and generally being douchebags

Good to know a few lowside67's are amongst their ownership group lol
Mine has a loud exhaust that my neighbors have jokingly complained about, true story. But it's factory... I actually kind of love how dumb it is.

-Mark

[bcrdukes]

Is the Durango platform shared across the Stellantis world i.e. Alfa Romeo etc, or is it unique to Dodge?

[radeonboy]

Is the Durango platform shared across the Stellantis world i.e. Alfa Romeo etc, or is it unique to Dodge?

I believe it's a holdover from the Daimler days and is loosely related to the ML/GL from that era when these were first introduced (hence AstulzerRZD's reference).

[underscore]

Mine has a loud exhaust that my neighbors have jokingly complained about, true story. But it's factory... I actually kind of love how dumb it is.

-Mark

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/80/a0/2f80a05eb0d1579fa3bc680431a9fe17.gif

[EvoFire]

Is the Durango platform shared across the Stellantis world i.e. Alfa Romeo etc, or is it unique to Dodge?

It's an extended current GC, which itself was a modified version of the last gen GC, which was a modified version of the E class.

If you let a Dodge enthusiast hear us call it a E class they'll foam at the mouth. Something about really only the rear suspension was similar and the frame was not interchangable blah blah blah

[supafamous]

https://mkt-vehicleimages-prd.autotradercdn.ca/photos/import/202307/0902/0718/ca24f962-8fe0-4840-a5d4-d9a93953d7c6.jpg-1024x786

Mine is a twin to this. It's not the best vehicle in the world, but for the money, it goes pretty good, makes a good noise, has a good stereo. I'm reasonably happy with it.

-Mark

V8 Durangos seem like silly fun. Every time I see a V8 one I imagine some dad decided this was his gateway to still feel alive versus having to drive a Highlander or Pilot. I imagine the percentage of women who drive a V8 one is somewhere between 0 and 1%.

[lowside67]

I've been loosely considering upgrading to an SRT 6.4 version to truly solidify my place as a dinosaur oil burning dumbass supporting Stellantis. It is hard to not feel like an idiot paying $90k+ for a Dodge though. But then I look at other options and they all kind of feel lame. I wanted a Defender for the longest time and I took a short test drive and couldn't get excited at all about it.

-Mark

[EvoFire]

I've been loosely considering upgrading to an SRT 6.4 version to truly solidify my place as a dinosaur oil burning dumbass supporting Stellantis. It is hard to not feel like an idiot paying $90k+ for a Dodge though. But then I look at other options and they all kind of feel lame. I wanted a Defender for the longest time and I took a short test drive and couldn't get excited at all about it.

-Mark

The only other way is probably a X7 M50 or M60 or a GLS and you are looking well north of 100k.

Escalades and Navis are cool as well. But none of those options are really similar to the Durango.

[supafamous]

I've been loosely considering upgrading to an SRT 6.4 version to truly solidify my place as a dinosaur oil burning dumbass supporting Stellantis. It is hard to not feel like an idiot paying $90k+ for a Dodge though. But then I look at other options and they all kind of feel lame. I wanted a Defender for the longest time and I took a short test drive and couldn't get excited at all about it.

-Mark

I was going to suggest you skip right to the Hellcat but then I looked up the price. $170k!!!

[RabidRat]

V8 Durangos seem like silly fun. Every time I see a V8 one I imagine some dad decided this was his gateway to still feel alive versus having to drive a Highlander or Pilot.

I just bought a 3rd gen Highlander, it's true. This vehicle makes me feel deader inside than I could've imagined :crybaby:

It's even burgundy (the color of misery), and hybrid.

[lowside67]

I was going to suggest you skip right to the Hellcat but then I looked up the price. $170k!!!
TBH, I actually messaged about one. But for towing it is objectively worse, it doesn't sound as nice, and I just cant see the value for the extra money. I think the SRT 6.4 would be most of the things I love about my current one but not too much worse.

-Mark

[Badhobz]

if you wanna go super stupid, try grand wagoneer. I haven't seen a single one anywhere.

Looks pretty posh inside, but I don't know a single thing about it other than its like 160k.

[radeonboy]

if you wanna go super stupid, try grand wagoneer. I haven't seen a single one anywhere.

Looks pretty posh inside, but I don't know a single thing about it other than its like 160k.

Think you can find those at the airport Budget / Avis lots. Along with a Polestar 1

[underscore]

^ my coworker had one as a rental and it wouldn't stop beeping for no reason. A 10 minute drive and it beeped 3 times, zero messages on the dash telling you why.

[lowside67]

^ my coworker had one as a rental and it wouldn't stop beeping for no reason. A 10 minute drive and it beeped 3 times, zero messages on the dash telling you why.
Sounds like your coworker should wear their seatbelt.

-Mark

[twitchyzero]

how's hemi gc compared to hemi durango?

[AstulzerRZD]

Last gen GC second row seat is really uncomfortable, exhaust is quieter, otherwise it’s the same car.

New gen only got the HEMI in the L for a couple years.

[AstulzerRZD]

if you wanna go super stupid, try grand wagoneer. I haven't seen a single one anywhere.

Looks pretty posh inside, but I don't know a single thing about it other than its like 160k.

Large SUV wise, Cadillac drives best with Magneride but with the worst engine.

Wagoneer has the best engine but drives most boaty; also has bad driver assist.
Also crazy problematic and terrible quality compared to Durango/Grand Cherokee.

[twitchyzero]

wagoneer uses the hurricane i6tt? it's sucking up plastic thermostat then you have to remove the cab before engine swap, ouch

[Manic!]

Autotrader claims this Audi RS6 Avant is 18k overpriced. If you can get one of these for under 100K this would make a killer road trip car.


https://www.autotrader.ca/a/audi/rs%206/burnaby/british%20columbia/5_64658535_20061207095234568/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=1_12_12&sprx=100

[NKC ONE]

Gen 5 Ram 1500. Reliable HEMI, not bad on gas (12.5L/100km), amazing ride with air suspension, adaptive cruise, space for everything, tows a good 10k#, great interior quality with large screen, looks mean but fits in. All for around $40k nowadays.

[roastpuff]

Gen 5 Ram 1500. Reliable HEMI, not bad on gas (12.5L/100km), amazing ride with air suspension, adaptive cruise, space for everything, tows a good 10k#, great interior quality with large screen, looks mean but fits in. All for around $40k nowadays.
40k...? where?

[NKC ONE]

40k...? where?

I've seen some pop up once in a while on FB and AT under 100k kms. Retail ranges around $40-45k. I've been contemplating selling mine as my needs require a 1 ton diesel for towing 10k+# so I've been actively looking at market prices.

2020+ Gen 5 started seeing decontented trucks due to covid and all the chip shortages. Key is finding a 2019 with power running boards, pano sunroof, big screen, adaptive cruise, air suspension, etc...basically a Limited.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Mission brief:

You plan on driving all over Canada in all types of weather for days to weeks at a time. What vehicle are you choosing?

My Raptor. It is an absolute beast