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Hudson’s Bay to liquidate entire business, still seeking additional capital
VRYALT3R3D
03-15-2025, 09:23 AM
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/economics/2025/03/15/hudsons-bay-to-liquidate-entire-business-still-seeking-additional-capital/
Yikes and a sad end to such a storied company in Canada.
JDMDreams
03-15-2025, 09:54 AM
#not in recession. Yea I feel sad too, I remember going to the Bay and Zellers when I was a kid. I thought they had a lot of money in real estate? But I guess offices/ commercial values tanked.
mikemhg
03-15-2025, 10:19 AM
10% off :lol
Badhobz
03-15-2025, 10:22 AM
Sniff sniff…. The last department store…. Etons, fields, zellers, sears, and now the bay. What a sad day
noclue
03-15-2025, 10:38 AM
I always thought that if they rebranded themselves as a smaller high end department store like asia they could’ve been competitive to holt renfrew but they decided to stay in the nineties
JDMDreams
03-15-2025, 10:46 AM
Yea department stores in Asia be booming and they actually have shit, like everything under the sun to buy
donk.
03-15-2025, 10:47 AM
No one in here is sad about it, you all shop on scamazon and support local stores going out of business
radeonboy
03-15-2025, 10:51 AM
I like shopping at the Bay for clothing - it's not glitzy but they have a decent selection of European and premium brands under the same roof. Between Bay days, random sales, and solid clearance sections, I always get much nicer clothing for only a bit more than shopping at Winners / Marshalls.
Stuck in the 90s as noclue says is the the same sentiment with all of my friends. My bigger problem with the Bay is finding good deals and walking out with a dent in my wallet.
JDMDreams
03-15-2025, 10:54 AM
Who buys clothes on Amazon, :fulloffuck: and I can only afford Costco sale clothes now :okay:
BIC_BAWS
03-15-2025, 11:26 AM
#not in recession. Yea I feel sad too, I remember going to the Bay and Zellers when I was a kid. I thought they had a lot of money in real estate? But I guess offices/ commercial values tanked.
They do have a lot of money in real estate. Hudson's Bay has been owned since 2008 by NRDC Equity Partners, a private investment firm controlled by the American retail and real estate mogul Richard Baker, who has a record of scooping up retailers and often profiting from their valuable real-estate holdings.
Their demise started by this acquisition. The end game was never about the retail operation, but rather the sizable real estate holding that HBC held. The real estate portfolio was actually more valuable than the retail business itself.
HBC's retail business up to 2008 suffered the same changing consumer demands and retail landscape that saw Eatons, Sears and many other department store chains in the US go out of business. They were outmoded before Amazon really became the retail powerhouse that they are now.
But back to HBC: People in the industry new the end was near for the Bay when Pathlight Capital extended a $500M loan to HBC at a very predatory rate of interest (think retail credit card rates).
The loan was secured by the Bay's real estate including their leases, and Pathlight's position was ahead of all the landlords'.
The end play of Pathlight was always to get control of the real estate through the backdoor.
They have now achieved this.
HBC will restructure down to 40 stores from 80. They will be allowed to disclaim all of the leases of their worst locations. They will assign their middle of the road locations to retailers like Walmart (at a profit) and either sell or redevelop the assets they own outright.
Pathlight, as HBC'S largest secured creditor gets to call the shots.
HBC has been on the bubble for quite some time. They had a lease termination with a fee of 600K and had to pay the landlord in installments. They weren't getting any trade credit and thus the opportunity for Pathlight to step in was created.
Also, there's some rumblings that the dealings were not entirely arms length.
N.V.M.
03-15-2025, 11:29 AM
I try not to shop Amazon but last Sunday I went to Sport Chek to buy some hikers. Merrell Men's Moab 3's.
$175.
at Amazon, $103. AND, delivered by dinner that same day.
I asked for a price match, they laughed.
anyways, goodbye Hudsons Bay. I'm not surprised one bit. they never adapted to the times, and I have no idea why.
Traum
03-15-2025, 01:55 PM
The problem with HBC's real estates is -- those places are not easy to repurpose or liquidate. So on paper, it is worth a lot. But in practice, it is really hard to find a new buyer, or turn it into something with a renewed purpose.
SkinnyPupp
03-15-2025, 02:15 PM
Goodbye to another remnant of colonialist capitalism <3
blkgsr
03-15-2025, 03:16 PM
i guess i better use the gift card i have....
VRYALT3R3D
03-15-2025, 04:13 PM
Goodbye to another remnant of colonialist capitalism <3
I am rolling my eyes here...
9800 jobs will be lost
Badhobz
03-15-2025, 04:41 PM
Hey !!!! Ya know what that means ?!?! Seiko watches for everyone !!!! Ahhhhhh me go rummage through its shit now.
SSM_DC5
03-15-2025, 04:50 PM
Hey !!!! Ya know what that means ?!?! Seiko watches for everyone !!!! Ahhhhhh me go rummage through its shit now.
Snowflake? :alonehappy:
N.V.M.
03-15-2025, 05:18 PM
could use a new Stearns Foster mattress though.
SkinnyPupp
03-15-2025, 06:29 PM
I am rolling my eyes here...
9800 jobs will be lost
That's not the point, but I'm glad you're posting
VRYALT3R3D
03-15-2025, 06:32 PM
That's not the point, but I'm glad you're posting
That is the point of this thread
SkinnyPupp
03-15-2025, 07:07 PM
That is the point of this thread
Never "roll your eyes" at history
And yes, it still sucks that a large Canadian company is dying
trollface
03-15-2025, 07:18 PM
Who buys clothes on Amazon, :fulloffuck: and I can only afford Costco sale clothes now :okay:
My whole fiy in from Aamzon. It's actually very good quality for the price.
Toy R Us is calling it quits. CLosing the showroom.
PeanutButter
03-15-2025, 07:25 PM
I always thought that if they rebranded themselves as a smaller high end department store like asia they could’ve been competitive to holt renfrew but they decided to stay in the nineties
By the time they realized they had to pivot they had no cash left and no one was crazy enough to try and inject capital.
The Bay was dying like 10 years ago. Todays economic climate didn't help, but The Bay wasn't going to make it regardless.
danned
03-15-2025, 09:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Glsij1BWIAAo00n.png
blkgsr
03-18-2025, 11:47 AM
the bay downtown has zero functioning escalators and elevators....wish i knew that before i went down with my family and had to carry the stroller up to the 6th fucking floor.
CivicBlues
03-18-2025, 11:58 AM
Any liquidation sales going on now at the Bay?
mikemhg
03-18-2025, 11:59 AM
Ya I need some info here, 10% off or what?
CivicBlues
03-18-2025, 12:04 PM
Best we can do is 5% and 50,000 Bay Rewards points?
JDMDreams
03-18-2025, 12:29 PM
I wouldn't mind some Seiko's, but they only have low end stuff and I don't feel like paying MSRP + tax
EvoFire
03-18-2025, 12:52 PM
This brought me down a rabbit hole in the last few days.
A few years ago when the redevelopment plan was revealed for Metrotown, I was against it. I'm still against it now because I want a dry indoor place during the winter as Brentwood is miserable in the winter.
But at the same time I kind of see it as the demise of the traditional giant mall. The malls rely on the major anchor tenants which Metrotown has been losing the last 2 decades
90s Now
The Bay The Bay(going bankrupt)
Zellers Walmart
T&T T&T
Superstore Superstore
Sears Gone
Eatons Gone
Toysrus Going
Future Shop BestBuy?
I don't know if you would count Uniqlo and H&M with their large footprint stores as an anchor tenant. They don't occupy the traditional huge end of a hall type space.
Also, I couldn't remember where Eaton's used to be. Was it where Zara is now? Or was it SportChek?
VRYALT3R3D
03-18-2025, 02:28 PM
Never "roll your eyes" at history
And yes, it still sucks that a large Canadian company is dying
I actually bought a few of the Point Blankets.
https://www.thebay.com/product/hbc-stripes-multistripe-point-blanket-0600001019439.html
:)
mikemhg
03-18-2025, 03:55 PM
So their website has the following sale:
"Spend $200 get 15% off, $250 get 20% off, $300 get 25% off with code SAVE"
God damn I wasn't that far off with that 10% :lol
Don't even bother, The Bay is known for marking up their stuff as well.
donk.
03-18-2025, 06:35 PM
You dont buy from The Bay when its closing, you wait for it to liquidate, then you walk into winners and buy it at 50-80% off.
BIC_BAWS
03-18-2025, 08:08 PM
I actually bought a few of the Point Blankets.
https://www.thebay.com/product/hbc-stripes-multistripe-point-blanket-0600001019439.html
:)
This is gonna be the next flipped item.. a rare commodity in Hudson's Bay merch
VRYALT3R3D
03-18-2025, 08:15 PM
This is gonna be the next flipped item.. a rare commodity in Hudson's Bay merch
They were pretty hard to come by. I think they all sold out by mid last week.
https://i.ibb.co/whqtpnZC/484815195-8862834680489687-1215451011532474768-n.jpg
https://vancouversun.com/news/iconic-hudsons-bay-wool-blankets-listed-for-eye-popping-prices-on-ebay
I went to HBC yesterday and got a bunch of stuff discounted. I think if people are waiting for the liquidation, there won't be much left worth buying.
I hope they pull through and are able to save some of the stores and remain in business. A lot of jobs would be lost.
BIC_BAWS
03-18-2025, 08:24 PM
This brought me down a rabbit hole in the last few days.
A few years ago when the redevelopment plan was revealed for Metrotown, I was against it. I'm still against it now because I want a dry indoor place during the winter as Brentwood is miserable in the winter.
But at the same time I kind of see it as the demise of the traditional giant mall. The malls rely on the major anchor tenants which Metrotown has been losing the last 2 decades
90s Now
The Bay The Bay(going bankrupt)
Zellers Walmart
T&T T&T
Superstore Superstore
Sears Gone
Eatons Gone
Toysrus Going
Future Shop BestBuy?
I don't know if you would count Uniqlo and H&M with their large footprint stores as an anchor tenant. They don't occupy the traditional huge end of a hall type space.
Also, I couldn't remember where Eaton's used to be. Was it where Zara is now? Or was it SportChek?
I started looking into this to see if it was all Canadian stores that had the 90s effect.. Turns out that while Toys R Us Canada was an independent company to the US counterpart, it was owned by the US company.
Zellers was a Canadian discount store, later acquired by Hudson's Bay. I guess Wal-Mart as the Zellers replacement makes sense.
Also do you guys remember HMV.
danned
03-18-2025, 09:44 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/3185/3016430341_ab21023754_o.jpg
68style
03-18-2025, 09:44 PM
Wasn't HMV British?
They have some in the TRU's here in Calgary...
Jason00S2000
03-18-2025, 10:11 PM
Also do you guys remember HMV.
The 90's you could go to the local CD store and hang out in the grunge music section and girls would walk up to you, ask you your favourite band, talk music for 5 minutes, and they would give you their number if they liked your taste. My friend Dave and I would do that and sometimes get like 2-3 numbers each in an hour. So much fun. Go home and then call them and then meet up in Mahon park in North Van after sundown and go make out with them. Teenage life in the 90's was fucking amazing.
Music stores used to be the Tinder of the time.
blkgsr
03-19-2025, 06:07 AM
I went to HBC yesterday and got a bunch of stuff discounted. I think if people are waiting for the liquidation, there won't be much left worth buying.
This will be a fact, all the good stuff is going to be gone. We had to search and settle for a slightly different colour sheet set than we wanted because everything else was gone.
Teriyaki
03-19-2025, 10:12 PM
Dropped by The Bay in DT on the way home from work yesterday, which was supposedly "day 1".
Watch department was basically cleaned out already. Maybe like 3-4 Timex's, 2 Seikos, 0 Casios, 0 Regular G-Shocks.
Just fashion brands like Hamilton and Fossil and the like, but also pretty slim pickings. Everyone that was "queueing" for the lone staff member was actually purchasing something after getting told the final price.
Not sure if they've been out of stock or they've been cleaned out, or maybe just shipped back to manufacturer...
Only 2 G-Shock MT-Gs in the case. Inquired. Not on sale, regular price.
whitev70r
03-20-2025, 02:47 PM
Anyone been to the Metro Bay ... is there anything there worth going for? Or, has that one been raided already as well?
CivicBlues
03-20-2025, 03:11 PM
The Bay Downtown is a fucking mess. No elevators or escalators are working you have to use the fucking fire escape to get between all 6 floors. And they're fucking tall floors too. I swear one day one of the boomers who still shop there are going to get a coronary climbing up to the 6th floor Men's department to buy a pair of chinos.
Vansterdam
03-20-2025, 04:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/PvyMxMDm/won-the-long-game-v0-oo485k2m2kpe1.webp
danned
03-20-2025, 09:50 PM
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/-/media/images/articles/2021/12/climbing-back-heart-attack-og.jpeg
danned
05-24-2025, 09:34 PM
https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-billionaire-mall-owner-seeks-hudsons-bay-leases
Hudsons' Bay announces sale of up to 28 stores to B.C. mall billionaire
Manic!
05-24-2025, 11:10 PM
She lives on the Island. She owns Woodgrove mall in Nanaimo. She has put it up for sale.
What's up with the logo?
https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/vancouversun/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/PNG0518N-Weihong-Liu-07.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=944&h=708&type=webp&sig=oIzExlerQTgEZ5dBeLJVpA
Badhobz
05-25-2025, 04:35 AM
Her Engrish name is ruby. So ruby liu. She also owns twasasssen mills.
N.V.M.
05-25-2025, 04:45 AM
she's asian? wat?
Badhobz
05-25-2025, 06:38 AM
More like she’s a woman…. what ?
I’ve seen dudes more feminine looking.
Kinda looks like me if I wore a wig and makeup.
68style
05-25-2025, 06:48 AM
Billions of dollars and her big reveal for spending on this is to print a cheesy logo and italics font on her nearest inkjet and hold it up.
spoon.ek9
05-25-2025, 06:58 AM
posting on a Sunday before 8am.. y'all truly old farts :lol
(I'm at work)
donk.
05-25-2025, 07:47 AM
posting on a Sunday before 8am.. y'all truly old farts :lol
(I'm at work)
Maybe there is a sunday AM sea to sky drive :derp:
bcrdukes
05-25-2025, 09:27 AM
Billions of dollars and her big reveal for spending on this is to print a cheesy logo and italics font on her nearest inkjet and hold it up.
Ghetto girl at heart. Badhobz dream girl.
underscore
05-25-2025, 11:36 AM
Billions of dollars and her big reveal for spending on this is to print a cheesy logo and italics font on her nearest inkjet and hold it up.
The flex is doing it in colour.
bcrdukes
05-25-2025, 03:25 PM
More like she’s a woman…. what ?
I’ve seen dudes more feminine looking.
Kinda looks like me if I wore a wig and makeup.
Please, no. :moderatorban:
donk.
05-25-2025, 03:40 PM
Please, no. :moderatorban:
Id pay to see that....
Badhobz
05-25-2025, 03:55 PM
you cant handle my kind of hotness you sluts.
bcrdukes
05-25-2025, 05:48 PM
I now understand why these women at the gym feed you.
JDMDreams
05-27-2025, 08:32 AM
Dat unemployment rate
Hudson’s Bay to terminate 8,000 employees, close all stores by June 1
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/05/27/hudsons-bay-closing-stores-june-1/
pastarocket
05-27-2025, 08:58 AM
Billions of dollars and her big reveal for spending on this is to print a cheesy logo and italics font on her nearest inkjet and hold it up.
My first thought of seeing that sign was "She must have printed that sign from a cheap printer that she bought on Temu". :lawl:
I am glad that Canadian Tire has the intellectual property rights instead of Ruby haha:
Canadian Tire Corp.'s $30-million deal to acquire the intellectual property of Hudson's Bay includes a profusion of trademarks, brand names, logos and slogans, as well as private labels such as Distinctly Home and Hudson North, court documents reveal
Hudson's Bay instead of Temu Bay. LUL
JDMDreams
05-27-2025, 09:43 AM
^^ yea but most of Canadian tire stuff is just really overpriced temu stuff
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