[RabidRat]

338hp AWD
450km range
1.5 kW AC outlet
Built on new e-TNGA platform: 4" longer wheelbase & overall length than ICE CH-R. Within 2" of RAV4.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/2026-toyota-c-hr-plus-ev-first-look-review

https://www.motortrend.com/files/68239e3ad59fff0008309bf1/2026toyotac-hrevsuvusmarket6.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/files/68239e37741f3d00083a0724/2026toyotac-hrevsuvusmarket4.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/files/68239e3656a4220008fb7d7f/2026toyotac-hrevsuvusmarket3.jpg

https://www.motortrend.com/files/68239e3cd59fff0008309bf2/2026toyotac-hrevsuvusmarket8.jpg

Toyota just announced a 338HP C-HR EV - what world are we living in? :lol

https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-debuts-stylish-powerful-2026-c-hr-battery-electric-vehicle/


https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/RqKVG3/s3/2026-toyota-c-hr.webp

[JDMDreams]

So replacement bz4x?

[pastarocket]

So replacement bz4x?

-looks like the 2026 CH-R is not a replacement for the bz4x.
-more like a more affordable sibling of the 2026 bZ.

https://www.toyota.ca/en/register-for-bz-updates/

https://www.toyota.ca/en/discover/news/2025/toyota-bz-all-electric-suv-adds-range--charging-and-exterior-upd/

[Traum]

It's a slightly smaller version of the bZ4X, which is now just called the bZ.

[RabidRat]

Wow, it totally does have all the same sheetmetal and interior as the bZ.

It's surprising how much better this looks just by dropping all the stupid black cladding and weird swoopy "future car" details around the head/tail lights.

Did Toyota actually mention this would be cheaper than the bZ though? It just looks like a coupified bZ, which should make it more expensive.

[JDMDreams]

Same same

https://media.evo.co.uk/image/private/s--9tPUbDbn--/f_auto,t_content-image-full-desktop@1/v1678192770/evo/2023/03/Ferrari%20Purosangue%20review-9.jpg

[radeonboy]

^I think Toyota would do pretty well adding the same EV powertrain to the Crown Sport and targeting the Venza / Crown Signia segment.

[68style]

They left out a picture of the people who buy these:

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/522952818/photo/senior-man-napping-on-couch.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=EJ3-5ZL-MGY4VTdKc9KoIlN5S8R_TNH4ieLOLVX_xz8=

[whitev70r]

I was just going to say, all I see is a bland, typical mid size SUV ... what am I missing here?

[headhunt3r]

The sloped trunk kills the cargo space like it does on my UX. I hate it.

[RabidRat]

I was just going to say, all I see is a bland, typical mid size SUV ... what am I missing here?

Oh no.

Am I loving this car because I've become a bland, typical mid size man?

FeelsBadMan

[Badhobz]

No you’re too handsome for the above statement. You need 20 more years to qualify

[RabidRat]

:lol

[snowball]

So the 2026 prelude really just gon' look like a toyota.

[Hondaracer]

Those Toyota steering wheels are so gross

I don’t mind the look of the rest of it although the interior is still pretty bad

[RabidRat]

Behold.

The Subaru version!

The Subaru... UNCHARTED. Yes that's the model name.

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/Subaru_Uncharted_TS72.jpg

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/2026_Subaru_Uncharted_x.jpg

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/2026_Subaru_Uncharted_2.jpg

[EvoFire]

Why is it a steering square?

Those phones are gonna go flying.

[Badhobz]

this is why i hate all cars nowadays. Everything is trash.

[asian_XL]

hate those rear door handles, kids definitely not going reach them

[danned]

everyone hates it

[AstulzerRZD]

Ew

[underscore]

The only redeeming feature I see is that it has lots of physical buttons, but it looks like a bunch of the HVAC is still touchscreen. Every time I drive through Chilliwack I'd be accidentally setting the fan to max or turning the AC off trying to hit the recirc button.

Why is it a steering square?

Those phones are gonna go flying.

They'll be fine, we all know nobody will be doing anything dynamic enough in this thing to make them move.

[RabidRat]

Could be that the square helps with gauge cluster visibility.

But then they couldn't square off the top leaving the bottom a circle, so now it's both lol

[bcrdukes]

They took inspiration from a 1989 Toyota Tercel.
https://www.hongliyangzhi.com/manufacturers/toyota/toyota-tercel/toyota-tercel-1989/toyota-tercel-1989-4.jpg

(Wow, this model has A/C!)

[EvoFire]

That steering wheel is great, they don't make them like they used to.

[RabidRat]

Turns out these are expected to arrive in April.

Pricing turned out ok. I put a [refundable] deposit down on an orange GT: the crippling boredom of my Highlander is doing things to my brain.

Subaru gives you a $750 rebate if you're willing to go do a triathlon, even a small one. Also hoping I can haggle them down below $50k for the new $5k EV rebate.

2026 Subaru Uncharted FWD
$42,995
2026 Subaru Uncharted FWD LR
$46,995
2026 Subaru Uncharted SPORT AWD
$49,995
2026 Subaru Uncharted GT AWD
$51,995

It's really grown on me! I like the stubby fastback look. It's like a squished Camaro.

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/driving/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/2025_Subaru_Uncharted_05.jpg

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/2733807/Subaru_Canada_Inc__SUBARU_UNVEILS_ALL_NEW_2026_SUB ARU_UNCHARTED_.jpg

[bcrdukes]

See you at Ironman Mont Tremblant. :troll:

[dark0821]

Subaru gives you a $750 rebate if you're willing to go do a triathlon



What if you just sign up for one? do they need to see the result?

Since the rebate is from the manufacture (not dealer level), just ask the sales what he needs to get Subaru Canada to give the rebate. The dealer will do this all day, after all the $750 is not coming out of their pocket, and if it is something that can help secure another sale, why not....

[RabidRat]

What if you just sign up for one? do they need to see the result?

Since the rebate is from the manufacture (not dealer level), just ask the sales what he needs to get Subaru Canada to give the rebate. The dealer will do this all day, after all the $750 is not coming out of their pocket, and if it is something that can help secure another sale, why not....

Haha good lookin out.

Unfortunately the Subaru website says you have to show your finish time so you really do have to do it. ><

Fml the shortest triathlon I found:
375m Swim, 10km Bike, 2.5km Run

375m is like 14 laps of a pool lolol

[radeonboy]

The Uncharted is really growing on me. Not enough to put a deposit down yet, but might tip me over if they offer low lease rates and decent discounts like they're offering for the Solterra right now.

The FWD models qualify for the new federal rebate, though a FWD Subaru feels wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SS-RoyS7Ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOP2-fn-azw

The C-HR isn't half bad either, but I expect their lease rates to be far worse based on how the BZ is priced next to the Solterra. Plus I heard the C-HR will be a low-volume model for Canada which might float the higher prices for a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sejwfT7qAKs

[red kryptonite]

lol who the fuck does Subaru think they are making you jump through hoops for $750 rebate.

[radeonboy]

lol who the fuck does Subaru think they are making you jump through hoops for $750 rebate.

I mean they're meant for those that already participate in these events prior to shopping for a Subaru :lol

Scroll to the bottom for all their corporate rebates ($750 each, doesn't stack):
https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebSiteID=282&WebPageID=20498

Athlete Rebate
Participants in Subaru Canada sponsored Golf Fore Cancer, Triathlon or Running events are invited to take advantage of this great offer on their next Subaru!

Canadian Ski Instructors’ Alliance Member Rebate
Subaru Canada would like to extend this special offer to all Canadian Ski Instructors’ Alliance members on their next Subaru!

Grad Rebate
To all recent and soon-to-be graduates, Subaru Canada would like to invite you to come check out this great offer on your next Subaru!

Loyalty Offers
As part of the Subaru family, you are eligible for exclusive Loyalty Offers. Please reach out to your local dealer for further details.

Mobility Rebate
At Subaru Canada, we are proud to be able to support this program to assist our customers with adapting to their new Subaru vehicle due to medically recognized physical disabilities.

SJATD Member Rebate
At Subaru Canada, we are proud to be a Signature Sponsor of the St. John Ambulance Therapy Dog Program and are honoured to extend a special Subaru Canada SJATD Rebate to all of its members in recognition of the valuable service they provide.

[bcrdukes]

In case you guys aren't aware, the cost to register for Ironman in Canada using the Ottawa event as an example ranges from CAD$1,299.01 to CAD$3,078.58, depending on the entry type. That's a deep expense for a $750 savings. I'm loving this Revscene math right here.

[RabidRat]

:lol you've lived the Revscene baller life for far too long: you're at a caucasian level of getting ripped off.

Behold, the cheapest triathlon I have found so far:
Subaru Triathlon Series, Milton - June 7th
Try-A-Tri race: 375m Swim, 10km Bike, 2.5km Run
https://raceroster.com/events/2026/113062/subaru-triathlon-series-milton

$83.94. Or as a True Asian would say, eik-tee shree dah-lahs, ninety foouh ceeeeents.

Only 16 days left before registration goes up $5 though. Have to decide soon.

[RabidRat]

lol who the fuck does Subaru think they are making you jump through hoops for $750 rebate.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Rv2uA5R9iWYAAAAC/give-it-to-me-now.gif

[bcrdukes]

:lol you've lived the Revscene baller life for far too long: you're at a caucasian level of getting ripped off.

I see there is a "free" registration. :awwyeah:

But lets be real. Milton. C'mon now. :pokerface:

[RabidRat]

I see there is a "free" registration. :awwyeah:

That's only "free" if you're a participant in a relay triathlon. Your team (via the captain) would still have to pay up.

Sprint Relay Triathlon (Team Captain)
750m Swim, 29km Bike, 5km Run - June 7, 2026
$187.42

Also 750m swim, are you trying to get me killed?!


But lets be real. Milton. C'mon now. :pokerface:

I'm confused. I would've thought Ironman would be too mainstream for you, and now you're even knocking Milton because it's too "fringe". You've changed :okay:. Where is hipster dukes we all knew and loved :crybaby:

[AstulzerRZD]

Swim is the best part bro, 750m (25minutes) feels like 400m (15mins) because you can draft behind someone in the water.

Even better feeling than bike drafting

[RabidRat]

Registered for the triathlon!! I would do anything for a discount.

[bcrdukes]

I'm expecting you to post a pic of the new car soon. :troll:

[AstulzerRZD]

Gotta ask, why this thing instead of a Mach-E GT/Rally , Ioniq 5 XRT/N, or Rivian R2?

[RabidRat]

Gotta ask, why this thing


340hp AWD for $52k to me is a bargain, and I like the idea of putting that kind of power in a tiny package.

Like a bunch of you guys on RS, I've had good times with my S2000. Over 17 years, I liked the challenge of stuffing all kinds of things into that car and getting away with it. Hauling stuff down the highway, through downtown traffic, things sticking way up through the open top: tall packages, giant stuffies, office chairs, you name it.


instead of a Mach-E GT/Rally


I've had the Mach-E as a rental twice, and in both times I had issues with the electronic door popper lagging / not responding.

Wasn't a fan of the low-speed throttle calibration. Felt jumpy.

Felt slow (AWD, but not GT/Rally). Back end rotates, but unpredictably so.

Fiddly UI. Felt a little distracting flipping around through menus to adjust things while I was driving.


, Ioniq 5 XRT/N,


I've had maybe 5 or 6 Ioniq5 rentals. Love the look of these from the outside, but I don't like the bubbly looking interior. The switchgear and general user interfacing has felt unintuitive, even despite using it a bunch of times.

I could've begrudgingly overlooked all that for the N, but you can't get one with a panoramic moonroof. I emailed Hyundai Canada with a plea: no reply lol.


or Rivian R2?

Oh yeah, I'd much rather an R2 as a vehicle. I have a day-1 [refundable] deposit down on one as well.

I just don't know that it'd be the responsible thing to do. In my first year of ownership, I built a spreadsheet for the R1 tracking 30+ issues, 20 of them being repeats / new problems caused by attempted fixes of the original issues.

In the delivery room at the hospital, with our newborn baby next to me, I was on the phone with Rivian arguing that they should pay for the damage to my truck because the tow operator dented it in transit. (why did they have to tow in the first place? because of an amateur-hour 12V electrical architecture + a bug-ridden firmware update = bricked, that's why)

But they argued that it was a 3rd party so it's out of their hands wtf. And then they refused to discuss further, so then I had to go find them on LinkedIn to get ahold of them.

...still loved that truck: it was like magic when it worked. Still might wind up in an R2, because I've learned nothing :lol

[bcrdukes]

Thanked for thoughtfulness.

Want to fail because Toyota (but not in my policy to fail posts.)

[dark0821]

:lol you've lived the Revscene baller life for far too long: you're at a caucasian level of getting ripped off.

Behold, the cheapest triathlon I have found so far:
Subaru Triathlon Series, Milton - June 7th
Try-A-Tri race: 375m Swim, 10km Bike, 2.5km Run
https://raceroster.com/events/2026/113062/subaru-triathlon-series-milton

$83.94. Or as a True Asian would say, eik-tee shree dah-lahs, ninety foouh ceeeeents.

Only 16 days left before registration goes up $5 though. Have to decide soon.


Go to dealer to make sure this qualifies, honestly this isnt bad, even with my fatass body i can probably do this...

375 swim... doesnt sound too bad
10km bike .... is easy peasy if its flat ground
2.5KM run .... its like 6 laps in highschool

[red kryptonite]

Registered for the triathlon!! I would do anything for a discount.

but but... what if u do all that and end up not liking the car? well at least the deposit is refundable and you'll be in better shape because of it.

[Badhobz]

why dont you go to a lesbian fish cook-off instead? At least you can be with similar Subaru owners

[RabidRat]

Go to dealer to make sure this qualifies, honestly this isnt bad, even with my fatass body i can probably do this...

375 swim... doesnt sound too bad
10km bike .... is easy peasy if its flat ground
2.5KM run .... its like 6 laps in highschool

The part I'm really worried about is the swim. 375 m is 15 lengths of a pool. That's not totally crazy, but I haven't swum (swimmed? swam?) laps since elementary school either haha.

Also at a triathlon, you're swimming in open water with rolling waves, water currents, and people swimming all around you kicking and jabbing. I heard that makes it way harder.

This is probably the stroke I should learn to master: flip onto my back and just flounder slowly to the finish :lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-2deWapD9Y

but but... what if u do all that and end up not liking the car? well at least the deposit is refundable and you'll be in better shape because of it.

Lol that's what my wife said too. It's not even about the effort of training for this, it's the "$83.94 waste of money" hahaha

[AstulzerRZD]

u should probably do one or two open water swims to get used to sighting, otherwise it's not too bad.

is it lake swim?

[EvoFire]

The part I'm really worried about is the swim. 375 m is 15 lengths of a pool. That's not totally crazy, but I haven't swum (swimmed? swam?) laps since elementary school either haha.

Also at a triathlon, you're swimming in open water with rolling waves, water currents, and people swimming all around you kicking and jabbing. I heard that makes it way harder.

This is probably the stroke I should learn to master: flip onto my back and just flounder slowly to the finish :lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-2deWapD9Y



Lol that's what my wife said too. It's not even about the effort of training for this, it's the "$83.94 waste of money" hahaha

The video is not wrong, if the water isn't too choppy you can lie on your back and float indefinitely.

[red kryptonite]

The part I'm really worried about is the swim. 375 m is 15 lengths of a pool. That's not totally crazy, but I haven't swum (swimmed? swam?) laps since elementary school either haha.

Also at a triathlon, you're swimming in open water with rolling waves, water currents, and people swimming all around you kicking and jabbing. I heard that makes it way harder.

This is probably the stroke I should learn to master: flip onto my back and just flounder slowly to the finish :lol.




Lol that's what my wife said too. It's not even about the effort of training for this, it's the "$83.94 waste of money" hahaha

oh and dont forget with open water swim there is no kick off every 25m

[supafamous]

I mean they're meant for those that already participate in these events prior to shopping for a Subaru :lol

Scroll to the bottom for all their corporate rebates ($750 each, doesn't stack):
https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebSiteID=282&WebPageID=20498

Where's the discount for being a lesbian? Or would offering one tank their profits?

[RabidRat]

But how would you prove it though? Would you need evidence of scissoring?

Serious question. Anything for a discount.

[dark0821]

oh shit Open Water is completely difference then... hmmmm you are okay to bring your own floatation device right?

Back in Highschool I finished Bronze Cross, and even then I am not certified for open water... plus we were told open water is no joke (completely different from a controled environment like a swimming pool)

Otherwise you will be fine.... no kick off every 25m is huge... (thats why I hated the 50m UBC pool back in the day... fucking 50m seems crazy far lolol)

[unit]

thats an olympic distance tri, there were no sprint distances that qualified?

[unit]

oh shit Open Water is completely difference then... hmmmm you are okay to bring your own floatation device right?

Back in Highschool I finished Bronze Cross, and even then I am not certified for open water... plus we were told open water is no joke (completely different from a controled environment like a swimming pool)

Otherwise you will be fine.... no kick off every 25m is huge... (thats why I hated the 50m UBC pool back in the day... fucking 50m seems crazy far lolol)

tri wetsuits are a bit buoyant

[RabidRat]

thats an olympic distance tri, there were no sprint distances that qualified?

Nah thankfully, I signed up for one at only 1/4 the olympic distances!

Subaru Triathlon Series, Milton - June 7th
Try-A-Tri race: 375m Swim, 10km Bike, 2.5km Run

[unit]

oh you're right, that's only half a sprint! i didnt even know that distance existed.

[radeonboy]

Looks like Trailseeker and Uncharted configurators just went live on the Subaru website:

Trailseeker:
https://subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebSiteID=282&WebPageID=26041&Range=Trailseeker&ModelYear=2026&link=vehiclebar

Uncharted:
https://subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebSiteID=282&WebPageID=26041&Range=Trailseeker&ModelYear=2026&link=vehiclebar

Technically the FWD Uncharted trims would qualify for the federal rebate according to Subaru's configurator, though the FWD LR barely squeezes by at $49,811 before taxes.

[RabidRat]

Apparently you are allowed to reduce the transaction value for the EV rebate, by stacking discounts and rebates.

Maybe I should become a ski instructor... that's yet another $750 off :/

[radeonboy]

You'll need to check whether these credits are applied after or before taxes, because I'm under the impression that they're applied after.

The BZ Woodland and Trailseeker reviews are starting to come out, which means the C-HR / Uncharted aren't too far behind now.

EDIT - Pricing is out:
C-HR SE - $44,900
C-HR XSE AWD - $49,950
C-HR XSE Premium AWD - $54,400

bZ Woodland - $59,900
bZ Woodland Premium - $64,900
bZ Woodland Premium with All-Terrain Tires - $64,900

[RabidRat]

I see why there's no frunk.

"oh we couldn't find another place for it". Gtfo here! How was everybody else able to do it??

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2026-toyota-bz-woodland-pr-107-6824f42ea51fb.jpg

You'll need to check whether these credits are applied after or before taxes, because I'm under the impression that they're applied after.

The BZ Woodland and Trailseeker reviews are starting to come out, which means the C-HR / Uncharted aren't too far behind now.

EDIT - Pricing is out:
C-HR SE - $44,900
C-HR XSE AWD - $49,950
C-HR XSE Premium AWD - $54,400

bZ Woodland - $59,900
bZ Woodland Premium - $64,900
bZ Woodland Premium with All-Terrain Tires - $64,900

Oh damn. But turns out this ^ pricing is before another $3400 in Freight/PDI etc. Baking that in, it feels a little high.
https://media.toyota.ca/en/releases/2026/2026-toyota-c-hr-puts-sporty--stylish-spin-on-the-compact-electr.html

I see there are factory incentives of $6000 on the '26 Solterra, and $4000 on the '26 bZ. I hope they apply the same level of discounting to the rest of these platform-mates.

[roastpuff]

Damn, the Trailseeker pricing is a lot better then - see below:

Touring $57,811
Limited $60,811
Premier $63,811

Freight and fees included, taxes extra

[RabidRat]

But then you're stuck spending thousands to remove the black cladding :crybaby:

https://www.subaru.ca/content/7907/media/General/thumbnail/Large/1600_7848.jpg

edit: shieeet, even the Toyota version has the cladding.

[AstulzerRZD]

"oh we couldn't find another place for it". Gtfo here! How was everybody else able to do it??

which combined combustion / EV platform car has a trunk?

only lightning and charger which are huge right?
even Ioniq 5 has no frunk and the other BMW platforms similar to TNGA EV don't have one either.

[RabidRat]

What! These are on a shared ICE platform?!

Geez they should've just popped the EV drivetrain into an existing ICE vehicle then. Why all the bespoke bodywork and interior when they could've just changed the drivetrain into the RAV4 and Highlander, and called it a day.

With all the development savings they could've sold the vehicle at a lower price.

[radeonboy]

^It was trendy at the time, and I'm guessing they don't want to jeopardize the ICE models' brand equity. Remember, the pre-facelift Bz4X was inferior to their EV competitors by a good gap, and these facelifted bZ close the gap quite a bit.

Mercedes did something similar by separating their traditional ICE models with an EQ lineup of EVs, but is now introducing new traditional models with EV powertrains (CLA, GLC etc.). Toyota is also starting to do the same with the new Highlander EV.

[AstulzerRZD]

CLA guys worked magic - the EV stuff is a bolt on to the ICE platform AND its frunk and battery are bigger than Ioniq.
For CLA, Trade off is in battery size, CLA has 92kwh battery which is 20kWh less than iX3 which is on dedicated EV platform.

CLA is most similar to 2026 ES where they modified TNGA-K ICE platform to do EV.
CH-R, Solterra, etc on the other hand are EV platform first - battery is structural and will have more passenger room than TNGA-K.

I'm always impressed by Lightning - despite modified ICE platform, they changed the crash structure enough to have the whole front part of the frunk open and multiple 120V power.
GM's frunk is quite a bit smaller and worse capability.
Rivian doesn't even do that.

[RabidRat]

even Ioniq 5 has no frunk

It does!

https://www.torquenews.com/sites/default/files/ioniq_frunk_my_image_0.jpg

But maybe you meant the N. They replaced the frunk with a noise maker ><


and the other BMW platforms similar to TNGA EV don't have one either.

And what a serious step backwards that was! I put takeout in the i3's frunk all the time. Where am I supposed to put my food now?!