[roastpuff]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2025/09/28/toyota-and-mazda-team-up-to-develop-new-mx-5-and-gr86/

According to Best Car, several chief engineers from Mazda have been dispatched to Toyota City to work on the development of the next-generation MX-5 and GR86 using the current model MX-5 as a starting point. Toyota has reportedly put up significant funds to revise the current platform and make it compatible to both rear-wheel drive models.

This is a massive switch from the first two generations of GR86 which were co-developed with Subaru, a project under which Subaru made its own BRZ. In deciding which platform to use for its next-gen GR86, having cut ties with Subaru, Toyota initially considered using a revised version of the Lexus IS, which is its only mid-sized rear-drive platform.

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Now while the two cars will employ a co-developed, almost identical platform, they will be powered by different engines. Toyota will use a 4-cylinder, 2.0-liter hybrid naturally aspirated unit pumping out upwards of 200-hp, while Mazda will reportedly employ of revised version of its current 2.0-liter, which according to one report, may be hybridized and should develop around 200-hp as well.



I kind of... like this?

[bcrdukes]

Since the "Toyota is trash" bandwagon hasn't left the station, let me be the first to say that we can count on Toyota to turn this into trash.

Let me save a post for AstulzerRZD:
1. Trash interior
2. Trash engine
3. Trash styling
4. Trash transmission
5. Trash suspension
6. Trash, trash, and more trash

Conclusion: Toyota = Trash

[JDMDreams]

I dunno man this sounds pretty tame it's been 200 HP forever. Ppl are getting 400hp out of 2l now a days. And wouldn't the hybrid make it heavy as fuck? Doesn't sound very zoom zoom to me, this seems like it will end up like the new prelude

[AstulzerRZD]

I like the GR86 and MX-5.
New interior had a lot of effort put in and isn’t plastic bullshit lol the rest of the industry.

[bcrdukes]

You are a lie and a waste of time.

[headhunt3r]

I only hope that the collab means the next miata has more room, at least like an NC. I feel so cramped in the ND.

[EvoFire]

I kind of like how purposefully small the ND is. As a 5'10 dude it was fine. Helmet wasn't fitting regardless of NC or ND so I rather a tighter package.

[AstulzerRZD]

I only hope that the collab means the next miata has more room, at least like an NC. I feel so cramped in the ND.

One of my ex had a GT with the subwoofer in the passenger footwell, under the dash.

I’m 5’8 and ND RF is uncomfortable

[68style]

You got one hell of a man spread, I'm 6' and felt totally at home in a ND RF that I rented in Hawaii!

[Traum]

Until I am seeing more concrete reporting or indications of such a thing actually happening, I'm taking the Toyota-Mazda collab with at least a couple grains of salt.

Multiple car mags and other publications have all reportedly said the next gen Miata is gonna come with a 2.5L NA engine, and that news had supposedly come from Mazda execs. So I am taking that to be a more reliable news source than what Best Car is saying.

While there are some discrepancies between the stories, I am aware that they can still be largely compatible with one another.

Also, I continue to hope that there will be a fixed top version of the Miata. It seems unlikely that Mazda will do something like that, cuz first and foremost, the Miata has always been a convertible to Mazda. But if the collab rumours hold true, perhaps Toyota can make theirs a fixed top version? Kinda like how the Z4 and Supra are the convertible vs fixed top versions of a highly similar car?

[AstulzerRZD]

You got one hell of a man spread, I'm 6' and felt totally at home in a ND RF that I rented in Hawaii!

Driver side totally ok!
Passenger side blows

[headhunt3r]

I'm 6'2" and while I "fit" in the ND it's quite cramped in the driver side, and I have to be careful where my knees go when i get in and out. The passenger seat is uncomfortable with the tiny foot well thanks to the massive hump for rides longer than 15 minutes.

The article mentions the collab might result in something that'll accommodate the GR's 2+2 so I'm hoping that means the Miata will have just a bit more room inside.

[Badhobz]

my fat ass uhhh "fits" into a ND miata, but for sure cant be in there for more than 10-15 minutes. Still better than the s2k... that thing is a joke.

[bcrdukes]

Still better than the s2k... that thing is a joke.

I'm offended. How dare you!?!?!?!??! :derp:

[Badhobz]

people love that fucking car, i woudlnt know, my feet dont even fit in the pedal area. I mash all 3 pedals with 1 foot.

fucking midget ass japs.

[68style]

Almost as bad as a Boxsderrrrr

[bcrdukes]

What a total POS! :mad:

[Badhobz]

Almost as bad as a Boxsderrrrr

no way! that car is roomy and easy to operate. ZE germans are friendly to Andre da giant chink.

s2k is MIDGET small. like fucking NA miata small.

[AstulzerRZD]

ya and the s2k is like 20-30% larger than ND.

[68style]

no way! that car is roomy and easy to operate. ZE germans are friendly to Andre da giant chink.

s2k is MIDGET small. like fucking NA miata small.

Stop blocking my dunks on dukes

[bcrdukes]

I have become immune to your dunks. Please trash something else, like Toyota and Mazda, or the Honda S2000.

[AstulzerRZD]

shit my engine is broken! it does nothing under 6000 rpm
even has torque dip at 5500

[68style]

Driver side totally ok!
Passenger side blows

I appreciate a passenger side that blows :ifyouknow:

[68style]

I have become immune to your dunks. Please trash something else, like Toyota and Mazda, or the Honda S2000.

I’m excited about this partnership and what it will lead to

[Dbone]

My caveman brain doesn't want a hybrid sports car.

[bcrdukes]

I’m excited about this partnership and what it will lead to

I can tell you that it can only lead to one thing: trash. :accepted:

[underscore]

My caveman brain doesn't want a hybrid sports car.

My logical brain doesn't either. Why add more weight and complexity to cars where a big part of the appeal is being lightweight and simple? They already get great fuel economy.

[supafamous]

I'm ok with 48v mild hybridisation being added - that seems to add very little weight and brings good benefits in low end performance and FE but I'd be very skeptical, in this weight class, that anything more would be of value.

That said, let's just stick with a high revving 4 cylinder eh? 200-240hp is just fine. 2500lbs max.

[djstyles]

You got one hell of a man spread, I'm 6' and felt totally at home in a ND RF that I rented in Hawaii!I was really surprised at the size of people that could fit in the ND. Everyone who asked me at the meet to sit in the car fit no problem.

[68style]

I thought Badhobz getting in would be way more entertaining than it was, the video I took was super disappointing

[EvoFire]

I was really surprised at the size of people that could fit in the ND. Everyone who asked me at the meet to sit in the car fit no problem.

You want a show I should have borrowed an Elise. I'll do that next year.