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09-02-2010, 02:55 PM
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#26 | | The RS Freebie guru
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Where is /b/ on this one?
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09-02-2010, 03:12 PM
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I don`t know why this would make you so mad. Look at that specific area of the world. Its not as peaceful as it is here. Sure she was scared and trying to show him that. But its not that hard to deceive someone into thinking your innocent then click boom. Very stupid statement to make when you don`t even consider their living conditions.
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09-02-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra  what?? so your best friends and his wife shoot suspect civilians running away from them?
I can see your point if the child kept on approaching them and ignore their warning. But obviously that's not what happened here. A child running away from you CANNOT hurt you. He didn't do it out of fear for his own safety. | You forget the child dropped the backpack. If this was indeed a bomb, letting the child retreat only means another bomb is coming.
The world you live in must be nice. Meet some of our military who have served overseas, they'll set you straight.
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09-02-2010, 04:15 PM
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I think the real question is, were all 17 bullets really required to "confirm the kill"?
He's either sadistic or has really bad aim.
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09-02-2010, 05:19 PM
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#30 | | The sound of inevitability
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Originally Posted by taylor192 You forget the child dropped the backpack. If this was indeed a bomb, letting the child retreat only means another bomb is coming.
The world you live in must be nice. Meet some of our military who have served overseas, they'll set you straight. | what part of "they shot at the bag, it didn't explode, proved she wasnt carrying anything dangerous, started running back, they shot her 17 times " do you not get?
The world you live in must be pretty nice.
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09-02-2010, 05:38 PM
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#31 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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maybe the little girl was holding a stapler?
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09-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodmack I don`t know why this would make you so mad. Look at that specific area of the world. Its not as peaceful as it is here. Sure she was scared and trying to show him that. But its not that hard to deceive someone into thinking your innocent then click boom. Very stupid statement to make when you don`t even consider their living conditions. | Who's living condition are you talking about? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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09-03-2010, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The7even what part of "they shot at the bag, it didn't explode, proved she wasnt carrying anything dangerous, started running back, they shot her 17 times " do you not get?
The world you live in must be pretty nice. | Not all bombs explode when shot. It is nice commentary by the reporter, yet is not the way the military handles situations.
As I said, talk to some of our military before talking out your ass.
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09-03-2010, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by optiblue maybe the little girl was holding a stapler? | I chuckled.
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09-03-2010, 07:36 AM
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where's that cartoon pic of a little girl holding flowers to soldiers while she is strapped with bombs?
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09-03-2010, 12:12 PM
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#36 | | I don't get it
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The question is - What the hell was she doing in a security zone?
Usually you don't walk up to random soldiers carrying guns, especially if they're Isreali, who are usually strict with their security zones.
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09-03-2010, 01:06 PM
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09-03-2010, 01:30 PM
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It's sad, but I'm sure this kind of things happens everyday & no one would even bother about it.
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09-03-2010, 01:37 PM
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#39 | | Prince of the Apes
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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo Who's living condition are you talking about? Posted via RS Mobile | really? im going to be sarcastic and say ours..
I'm talking about the middle east. Theres so much shit happening there why wouldn't you fear for your life?
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09-03-2010, 04:15 PM
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#40 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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He might have been acquitted under the law because what he did was legal and is in place to prevent certain situations from happening but it's definitely an ethical issue and a tragedy. I really hope that Israel changes some of it's rules of engagement so something like this never happens again.
On another note, not justifying what happened, I would just like to point out what makes my blood boil.
After years of turmoil and many deaths, peace talks have began. What's special about these peace talks are that they are direct, not indirect as they have been in recent years. That's a big deal, and a huge opportunity for peace. What's even better is that both sides are willing to make sacrifices and many believe these peace talks may pave the way for the final peace agreement, the establishment of a Palestinian state, and security for Israel. What's even more amazing, is that whatever agreement both parties will arrive at will be put forward, by Abbas, to a national referendum. That means that the Palestinians in the west bank and in gaza will get to have the final say in determining their own destiny. This is a great thing and I'm sure all of you would support this since it will prevent any incidents like this from ever happening.
Now to the part that makes my blood boil. A day before this important event was about to start, Palestinians shot an Israeli car thus killing four, one of which was pregnant. The next day, Palestinians shot and tried to kill two more. Luckily those two managed to escape by jumping into a ditch (I think it was a ditch), and were only wounded. Now, 13 Palestinian factions, including Hamas, "will join forces to launch "more effective attacks" against Israel." ( http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...924784217.html). This is in order to sabotage the peace talks.
The hypocrisy of it all is that when an Israeli dies, no one cares and no one makes a thread about it on Revscene. When Israel is ready to negotiate for peace, and Palestinians are the ones sabotaging the talks, it is still those damn Israeli's who are evil and don't want peace.
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09-03-2010, 06:21 PM
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#41 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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Hamas was created by mossad to sabotage the PLO looks like they're working again to sabotage these peace agreements
But Israel isn't fully wanting peace either since they won't stop their settlement construction during these peace talks and they continue to bulldoze palestinians out of the area
On another note, Im not trying to justify these recent killings of Israelis but they're attacking Settlers they're not attacking Israelis in Israel
Granted there's a major moral issue and you can say blame shouldn't be placed on these settlers but you can see how they can be construed as a legitimate target as the settlements are considered Illegal under the world's eye (even the USA) so these settlers are actually Invaders.
I don't know what person who wouldn't strike back at someone who threw them out of their homes
Not trying to legitimize it as I don't agree with it, at all, as there is an attempt for peace here yet both sides are executing actions that could topple the whole process.
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09-05-2010, 05:51 PM
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#42 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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Originally Posted by StylinRed Hamas was created by mossad to sabotage the PLO looks like they're working again to sabotage these peace agreements
But Israel isn't fully wanting peace either since they won't stop their settlement construction during these peace talks and they continue to bulldoze palestinians out of the area
On another note, Im not trying to justify these recent killings of Israelis but they're attacking Settlers they're not attacking Israelis in Israel
Granted there's a major moral issue and you can say blame shouldn't be placed on these settlers but you can see how they can be construed as a legitimate target as the settlements are considered Illegal under the world's eye (even the USA) so these settlers are actually Invaders.
I don't know what person who wouldn't strike back at someone who threw them out of their homes
Not trying to legitimize it as I don't agree with it, at all, as there is an attempt for peace here yet both sides are executing actions that could topple the whole process. | 1. Hamas was not created by the Mossad. There's absolutely no proof to this. Israel tolerated Hamas in it's early years because it was a religious organization which was more bent on helping religious Palestinians (building schools, mosques, etc.) and attacking secular Palestinians. Also, since it was a religious organization Israel feared it would come off as anti-Muslim if it went against it, something it did not need at the time. There's a lot more to it, but the bottom line is that Israel didn't create it. Please don't link me some crazy conspiracy page which says it did but has no credible sources. Also, I find it really annoying how you had to somehow try and find a way to link Israel with the sabotaging of the peace talks.
2. There was a construction freeze in the west bank in place, It was actually enforced pretty well, however once the settlers were killed a lot of settlements resumed building in protest. True enough though, construction should be halted to at least some degree during the talks.
3. StylinRed, you were proablly sick to your stomach seeing people in this thread justifying the soldier's actions, so I edited your words a bit to show you how hypocritical you are when it comes to the loss of human lives.
"Granted there's a major moral issue and you can say blame shouldn't be placed on ' this little girl' but you can see how ' she' can be construed as a legitimate target as ' she walked into a security zone'"
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09-05-2010, 07:07 PM
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#43 | | The sound of inevitability
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^I agree with 99% of what you say, but how the fuck can you justify any settlement building?
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09-05-2010, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The7even ^I agree with 99% of what you say, but how the fuck can you justify any settlement building? | A final peace agreement will most likely see the largest settlements in the West Bank be absorbed into Israeli borders while land would be absorbed from Israel into the future Palestinian state in another area. It would be a "Land Swap" so to speak, and I'm sure you've heard of it before as it's been brought up many times in the Israel-Arab situation. It's a very convenient solution for the big settlements because they are simply too large, and it would take too long and too much effort to dismount them. Taking this into consideration, construction in those settlements shouldn't be frozen because it's necessary for the natural cycle of the city. Other smaller settlements which will definitely be dismounted and evacuated should definitely be under a construction freeze, and new settlements should not be allowed to form.
Hope that answers your question brah
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09-05-2010, 07:36 PM
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#45 | | The sound of inevitability
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thanks, had no clue.
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09-05-2010, 10:07 PM
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Yeah thats what makes the settlement construction despicable... even though the world tells them 'no' they keep building and growing it because they have no intentions of giving it up and know if they develop it further they can use it as a bargaining chip to keeping it if there were any peace agreements in the future (this is known as being evil) and Israel is not going to swap land for it...
their actions have proven all they want to do is take since their inception, through to the settlements, from the construction of the wall (building it into and over palestinian land) and the forced deportation of non-jews who were BORN IN ISRAEL (this is very recent and is happening now Israel is deporting hundreds of Hebrew speaking children, born in Israel to migrant workers) in the name of defending their "jewish identity" Quote:
Originally Posted by m!chael 1. Hamas was not created by the Mossad.
3. StylinRed, you were proablly sick to your stomach seeing people in this thread justifying the soldier's actions, so I edited your words a bit to show you how hypocritical you are when it comes to the loss of human lives. | i wrote it like that on purpose dummy based on ur last comment trying to legitimize shooting kids 
(hamas was created by mossad; proof isnt needed its accepted; like 9/11)
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