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Old 12-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #101
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Holy fricken hell. Another reason to have good ice radials on your car at this time of year. I was on Halifax going at normal speeds...... OK, maybe a little faster than posted limit. Anyway. I get to a stop sign and just before I brake, I hit this large patch of ice. Not normal patch of ice. Some dipshit had washed his car in his driveway and all the water flowed onto the road. He must have washed a fricken battleship, because there was a huge amount of ice on the road. Anyway, I was able to stop because of my superior driving skills - I guess my Nokians kind of helped.

Can't assume everything is OK, because there will be ice on the roads caused by idiots washing their car in driveways on a hillside. One of the on ramps to the freeway had ice this morning - caused by our friends at Dimwit, I mean, Kiewit Flatiron.


Careful out there, guys.......... and get those winters on ASAP.
I had a close call as well the other night. Driving my bro home after a night out with friends and driving down an unsalted back road, a deer runs out in front of my car. The road is a bit slanted in that section, so the car starts to go sideways. I, fortunate enough to be an ex-amateur drifter, was able to re-gain control of the car without putting it in the ditch or stopping.

Again, Nokians probably helped . I was going about 15 under the limit (60 zone) as it was icy. I didn't think it was quite THAT icy otherwise I would've slowed down even more.

My brother was freaking out while I calmly got the car straight
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:29 PM   #102
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Yeah, ice is a bitch..............

Black ice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



worst part about black ice is that it's invisible
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Is black ice really invisible?

So far this year when temperatures were below freezing, you can generally tell what the road conditions are at night...

Regular "grey" pavement means it's ok. "dark" patches usually mean ice, and if the entire road is shiny and sparkling then slow the fuck down.

Or are they "invisible" in the sense that you don't really see the patch coming up until it's too late?

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky, but I can usually tell when there's ice.

Please feel free to comment or correct me, or share experiences.
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Is black ice really invisible?

So far this year when temperatures were below freezing, you can generally tell what the road conditions are at night...

Regular "grey" pavement means it's ok. "dark" patches usually mean ice, and if the entire road is shiny and sparkling then slow the fuck down.

Or are they "invisible" in the sense that you don't really see the patch coming up until it's too late?

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky, but I can usually tell when there's ice.

Please feel free to comment or correct me, or share experiences.
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Black ice, sometimes called clear ice, refers to a thin coating of glazed ice on a surface. While not truly black, it is virtually transparent, allowing black asphalt/macadam roadways or the surface below to be seen through it—hence the term "black ice". The typically low levels of noticeable ice pellets, snow, or sleet surrounding black ice means that areas of the ice are often practically invisible to drivers or persons stepping on it. There is, thus, a risk of skidding and subsequent accident due to the loss of traction. A similar problem is encountered with diesel fuel spills on roads.
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Is black ice really invisible?

So far this year when temperatures were below freezing, you can generally tell what the road conditions are at night...

Regular "grey" pavement means it's ok. "dark" patches usually mean ice, and if the entire road is shiny and sparkling then slow the fuck down.

Or are they "invisible" in the sense that you don't really see the patch coming up until it's too late?

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky, but I can usually tell when there's ice.

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IME the dark patches are just ice patches, not really black ice. Black ice is thinner so much so that you still see the texture of the pavement.
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Black ice on freeway is pretty damn scary.......... absolutely no control. Every MPH makes a helluva difference.

Leave plenty of space between you and the driver ahead of you and keep listening to the radio for trouble spots. You don't want to be part of a 20 car pile up in the middle of buttfuck nowhere.
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While in snow and ice conditions, 4x4, 4WD, and AWD with improper tires will not help with braking traction...
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I had a coworker who insisted she doesn't need winter tires because she has a 4x4

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i have an awd car with all seasons, yesterday's drive didn't seem nearly as bad for me as it did for a lot of the other cars i saw spinning their wheels.
rather have any car with winter tires though. i've seen the comparisons and fwd with winters is 10x better than awd with all seasons.
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Proper tires, drive slow, extend your following distances, resist the urge to pass using a snowy/icy lane, avoid hills if possible.
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I had a coworker who insisted she doesn't need winter tires because she has a 4x4

Or, I had a co-worker who absolutely refused to buy winter tires because she has a pickup truck...
4x4 will just make you go further in the ditch when you actually hit it.
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Place a shovel in your vehicle in case you get stuck in an alley. -had to destroy the ice in my alley near my driveway last winter thanks to a shovel. Winter tires give you more grip on snow but ice can make any vehicle immobile.

The obvious tip for all Lower Mainland drivers? Avoid Richmond!
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Here's a good tip, don't ride your motorcycle in these conditions!
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General tips to make driving life easier on your block

1 - if you shovel your alley/sidewalks do not throw the snow on the road or especially cover a catch basin with the expectations that it'll melt and drain right down. It won't. It'll block the drain and meltrd snow has nowhere to go but pool up and freeze. You now made your street into a skating rink.

2 - if you throw the snow on the road beside the curb causing cars to park 2 or 3 ft from the curb a snow plow will not go down your street to salt it. If they think theres a chance it might be to much of a tight fit and result in an accident they simply wont risk it
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General tips to make driving life easier on your block

1 - if you shovel your alley/sidewalks
addition to this tip if you clear your alley better double check your neighbour doesn't clear his and throw it on the areas where you just cleared
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I'm going to start parking my truck on the street from now on. I clear the walkway, making sure it is totally clear and dry. Two hours later, the ploughs come by and cover what I just shovelled. It happened twice yesterday. I'm no spring chicken anymore. I gave up after the second time. Fuck 'em. I did my best. I even made sure I didn't put what I shovelled onto the road. I felt sorry for my neighbour who is very old. I get it that the roads must be cleared, but it wasn't even that bad. It was mainly slush and most of the snow was gone where cars travel. Nobody parks in front of their houses because of nice alleys and driveways, so the ploughs think it's great to clear the entire road. Next time, i'm getting them to come out and clear the sidewalks - see how funny it is. Fokkers. /rant
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My mom parks her car in the garage and she leaves work before me.

I want to move my car into the garage before I leave so all the frost melts.
Is it bad if I start my car and drive it into the garage and turn it off without it warming up?
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