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Old 05-09-2010, 10:00 AM   #26
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:51 PM   #28
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Both cases are insane.

The 1st case isn't really wrong per se (the actual selling of the truck) but the salesmen actually went to the guy's house to steal his cash, then take their truck back!? wtf. Criminal charges are in order here.

2nd case - holy geez. That is some mad sales skillz I must admit. With that said though, those salesmen should have their licenses revoked permanently.
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UPDATE on the Mazda case,,, couldn't find the original thread..

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STEVE RUSSELL/TORONTO STAR May 5, 2010 Madeline Leonard was taken for a ride by The Mazda dealership in Orangeville. Ontario's regulator for auto dealers says a shopper should have paid $40,000 for a 2010 Mazda6 GT sedan before taxes but the bill quickly took off to a whopping $68,000 because of the work of two senior salesmen. They have been charged with breaking the Consumer Protection Act and face hefty fine. in Orangeville
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Mazda Canada has terminated a dealership in Orangeville for breaching the company’s business practices including an incident where the store sold a car to a woman for more than $25,000 above its real value.

In a rare move, the auto maker announced Thursday that it had ended the sales and service agreement for Mazda of Orangeville effectively immediately, which means the store cannot sell any new vehicles and parts to customers or make repairs.

The move comes less than a week after the Star revealed the dealership had sold a 2010 Mazda6 G6 sedan to a local woman for about $66,000 including taxes and a trade-in car but she should have paid less than $41,000.

“We informed the dealer this morning that we were terminating the agreement because he had not adhered to the business standards, under the terms of the sales and service agreement,” said Greg Young, Mazda’s director of corporate public relations.

Young noted the huge overpricing of a car to the woman was one example of a breach but the company conducted an investigation and found other violations.

He added there are clauses in the agreement that state the dealer must conduct business in a way that reflects favourably on the image, reputation and goodwill of the store and Mazda.

Young, who could not recall a termination for such breaches in almost two decades at Mazda, said the company has received calls from customers in recent days in response to negative publicity about the incident.

As a consequence of the termination, Mazda will buy back any new vehicles and parts from the dealership. However, the dealership could still sell and service used cars on the lot.

Sunny Bains, president and principle of Mazda of Orangeville, met briefly with company officials at corporate headquarters in Richmond Hill on Thursday and later confirmed the decision.

“You heard that, it’s probably true but I got to go,” Bains said before hanging up.

Bains, who has operated the medium-sized Mazda store for about three years, could seek a temporary court injunction to stop the company from ending the franchise agreement.

The Ontario Motor Vehicle Industry Council, which regulates new and used car dealers, charged Mazda of Orangeville and two senior sales employees recently with “engaging in unfair practice by making an unconscionable representation,” contrary to the Consumer Protection Act.

The dealership faces a maximum fine of $250,000 and the two employees could receive $100,000 fines plus jail time of up two years if they are found guilty. They could also lose their provincial registrations to sell vehicles.

The Star found that the dealership sold a 2010 Mazda6 G6 to an Orangeville women for almost $66,000 or about 60 per cent more than she should have paid by charging her three times the value of extra items and saddling her with an eight-year loan. The woman should not have qualified for the loan because she is unemployed and living on a disability pension.

Furthermore, the dealership slapped several thousand dollars on the manufacturer’s suggested retail price on the car which wasn’t new.

Bains said he fired the two employees after the Star reported details of the deal but the regulator indicated that he has known about the questionable sale for somewhat longer.

Ex-manager “Moe” Shaihk, one of the defendants who lost his jobs, and Bains are also partners in a Suzuki dealership in Pickering.

Bains promised last week he would reimburse the customer, Madeline Leonard, so she “would not be short one penny out of her pocket.” But Leonard said she has not received anything yet including Bains’ promise of a new car.

Regarding Mazda Canada’s decision, Leonard said if the company thinks it is fair, “it’s alright with me.

“I’m the fairest person in the world,” said the 56-year-old woman. “I believe everyone should be fair and honest.”

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Supposedly many dealers have made HUGE strides in recent years to make their salesmen less sleazy, but unfortunately car sales to tend to attract a certain personality.

Good on Mazda for pulling the license. That's some seriously bad publicity from Orangeville.
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