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Old 07-15-2016, 12:37 PM   #1
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Turkey Military Uprising

Happening right now.

Turkey coup: military attempt to seize power from Erdogan as low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara and bridges across Bosphorus in Istanbul closed

Tanks are rolling into the city, bridges out of city are closed, helicopters and jets low flying over the city. Reportedly not an exercise and the Turkish PM has already condemned the branch of military attempting to seize power.

EDIT: The reddit feed that Oshiguru posted seems to be faster/up to date than the Telegraph feed.
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Reddit has a pretty good live update thread as well:
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The ZioAmerican empire has controlled Turkey since before the Armenian genocide.
This is a show... there is a "New World Order" shift of direction going on now after ISIS's fail.
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The ZioAmerican empire has controlled Turkey since before the Armenian genocide.
This is a show... there is a "New World Order" shift of direction going on now after ISIS's fail.
And your a Trump supporter.
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Fantastic. Hopefully these guys know what they're doing and will put this once progressive country back on track.
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And your a Trump supporter.
if your gonna jab at CiC, you're grammar needs to be in check or else you loose the affect.
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Some context from The Atlantic

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If Friday marks the end of Erdogan’s leadership, it will complete a stunning arc over the course of two decades: from political disgrace to the leadership of the nation; from the toast of the globe and the beacon of hope for Western leaders to pariah and avatar of repression and autocracy.

Erdogan served as mayor of Istanbul in the 1990s as part of an Islamist party, but was barred from politics and imprisoned in 1998, a victim of the periodic crackdowns on religious parties that have characterized the Turkish state since its founding. He returned to politics with the AKP, or Freedom and Justice Party, a more moderate party that melded Islamism with modernizing impulses. Erdogan became prime minister in 2003. The rise of the AKP initially fed speculation that the military, a staunchly secular institution loyal to the precepts of the founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, might launch a coup, as it had done many times in the past.

But Erdogan managed to strike a middle path, drawing in some liberals who applauded his modernizing steps, as well as more conservative and religious voters. He kept the military at bay, in some cases prosecuting generals for alleged coups. His “Turkish model” was highly lauded abroad, with Western leaders and analysts hoping it might represent a successful fusion of Islamist politics with liberal democratic principles—a fusion that came to be seen as ever more necessary as Islamism became entrenched across the Middle East. President Obama in particular grew close to Erdogan, holding up him as a model.

But Erdogan’s liberalism only went so far. As his tenure lengthened, he broke with the enigmatic religious leader Fethullah Gülen, a longstanding ally who is now exiled in Pennsylvania. It soon became apparent that his goal was not a liberal democracy but a sort of revival of Ottomanism. Erdogan grew increasingly autocratic, cracking down on the media and drawing power to himself, working to transform the Turkish presidency—traditionally a relatively weak position, compared to the prime ministership—into a strong one. He became president in 2014, but the civil war in neighboring Syria and increasing tensions with Kurds encouraged him to grab even more power. By earlier this year, reporters were referring to Erdogan as being “on a march to dictatorship.” Even if Erdogan is able to survive the coup and reassert control, the Turkish model is dead—and so are any hopes that Erdogan might be a liberalizer or a democrat.
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This will carve up the country for sure.
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if your gonna jab at CiC, you're grammar needs to be in check or else you loose the affect.
CiC is so unique. Calling him a trump supporter would actually be a compliment to him. Everyone should just re-sign to the fact that you can't insult him.

Irregardless of this, i'm just happy to live in Vancouver. even with how bad and corrupt our politicians like Gregor are, they are still nowhere near the same level as those other countries.
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Article from CBC, a few months ago. It gives some insight as to why this is happening:

Turkey's Erdogan: Doing it his way, at home and abroad

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Insane... Turkey was on its way to being a world power again... Can't believe it

Like I said in the thread about Nice, the world needs to Calm the hell down


News just said a jet shot down some choppers which belong to the coup, tanks are on the highways headed to the airport and the military has taken the bridges

Erdogan is calling for supporters to protest in the streets, and that's what is being shown on the news now groups of protests are growing, but gunfire is being heard

We've heard that Erdogan has been causing a rift within the country but nothing seemed to be bad enough for a coup attempt... I wonder what outside forces are playing games in there?

Maybe Russia was pissed off over how Erdogan had been treating them...
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Makes me wonder why the military are pulling a coup instead of an assassination? If the primary target seems to be Erdogan, wouldn't a pin point attack in the form of an assassination be more effective?
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maybe they feel they will need support from other countries and an assassination may affect that? or he's more valuable alive than as a dead martyr?
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You know shits getting real when people are going at tanks with nothing but their bare hands.

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People are dying and getting hurt yet we are here on the internet talking about fucking grammar. lol #firstworldproblems
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The Turkish military has a history of working hard to maintain the secular nature of the constitution, in recent history there has been a number of near-coups that were thwarted in the knick of time.

Ultimately this coup shouldn't be a surprise to Erdogan... he's a power hungry dictator who supports ISIS, GTFO loser.
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this makes me sad, I spent my honeymoon there 2 years ago in both those cities =(
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This exactly what I was wondering, thanks

Good for them, religion doesn't belong in law, or anywhere near it. It looks like they've been kicking shitty religious leaders out for decades, and this is just the latest coup
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In case you're wondering why it's important to get rid of this guy

The beginning of the end? Turkish president Erdo?an's worst moments | Europe | News | The Independent

Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Turkey's ruthless president - BBC News

Apparently he wanted to implement full sharia law, the same outdated, barbaric law that all the shitty countries around the world use that basically gives their people - especially women - no rights to live a normal life.
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Looks like it's failing... Man a failed coup attempt has to be worse than not having one at all. Scary
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how?...the army was rolling with tanks and all..even jets above.
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