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Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
Didn't Vote (BOO) 18 4.59%
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Old 08-03-2015, 01:31 PM   #51
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Provide some for this current campaign.

If you're referring to the Engage Canada ads, I wouldn't call them slam ads or attack ads. They're more stating facts than attacking the leader of the party.

There's a difference between saying "he has great hair but being PM isn't an entry level position" vs. providing facts and sources followed by an opinion.

Some ads from Engage are here:
Engage Canada's anti-Harper ad run could get cut short - Politics - CBC News

either you are extremely biased, or extremely blind. You can call harpers 'attacks' on trudeau as stating facts as well. They take a video clip of trudeau talking about what his policy will be (providing fact and source), which is why they say he's not ready (follow with an opinion). That fits 100% of your very own criteria as being informational.

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advertising works. that's why its there. power to whomever can convince the most sheep to vote for them.
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more like I tell myself what to do. I have had enough of this bullshit the past couple years. Canada isn't looking too good the past years. a
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I can't help but doubt your decision making abilities on the political arena. You're really going to need Revscene spoon feed you on this one.
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Just like last election I'll be voting NDP again.

I like the fact C51 will be scrapped, and income sharing removed as well.
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is there some site that shows where these people stand on "issues" -- economy, family, war, policies, etc.?

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Gululu, is that you?
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I think the OP was thinking about Vote Compass

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I'm probably one of the few on RS who will be voting conservatives, its no secret I lean fairly right on some issues. The issues that are at the top of my priority list are security/military and finances. Being involved as a PMC whos been boots down overseas and seen some of the things going on behind the scenes that most don't, I see the practical value and application of Bill C-51 for the most part. I also support the increase in TFSA contribution limits, low corporate and small business rates, and Nothern Gateway and other pipelines.

Liberals would be the only other party I would consider voting for but their platform is has a few items going against what I'd personally like and Justin Trudeau just annoys me to no end.

NDP, I'm pretty much against the majority of their platform, so no way I would ever vote for them.
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a guy wiping boogers in the skytrain and you (for example) are canadian citizens with equal rights...


One of the last times I rode the Skytrain I grabbed the handrail and there was a fresh booger on it that got onto my hand.


It was so disgusting. If anyone ever sees someone do that, please beat the living shit out of them.
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Gululu, is that you?

Should I feel guilty for what happened with the aboriginals?


Or are they merely savages that were conquered?
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Multi won't vote, yet he grandstands on RS more than anyone else in recent memory. If you wish to effect policy, you must participate.

My individual vote is completely fucking equal to the mouthbreather who wipes boogers on Skytrain handrails.


Voting is useless.
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Should I feel guilty for what happened with the aboriginals?


Or are they merely savages that were conquered?
Both of those are probably the wrong answer.
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Voting is useless.
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My friends are giving me mega shit for saying I won't vote.


Honestly I do not feel that government can do anything good, and that the world is about to get a lot shittier and there is no way to stop it.
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either you are extremely biased, or extremely blind. You can call harpers 'attacks' on trudeau as stating facts as well. They take a video clip of trudeau talking about what his policy will be (providing fact and source), which is why they say he's not ready (follow with an opinion). That fits 100% of your very own criteria as being informational.

You want an attack ad? here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmmSV1jtK3s

advertising works. that's why its there. power to whomever can convince the most sheep to vote for them.
To be completely honest, I haven't seen this ad run on TV or on radio.

But props on showing it to me. I was wrong.
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Honestly I do not feel that government can do anything good, and that the world is about to get a lot shittier and there is no way to stop it.
Multi, I can appreciate your negativity. The world is fucked. Canada is fucked. Our systems are fucked. Modern democracy is anything but democracy. Its convincing the lowest common denominator through repetition and being recognizable similar to the diarrhoea that is pop music. Make some stupid hook that every fucking moron remembers and they can sing along to it and feel a part of something. Thats why in North America we can only muster up candidates that share a last name with former notable politicians or celebrities. We are a society made up of fucking idiots. That said, to not vote is to simply concede defeat. To lie down and say, let the idiots have their way. Use your voice, read, learn, then share your knowledge. Being charismatic is the strongest weapon you can have. When people are given the access to knowledge, even most of the absolute dumbest will still want to absorb it. If you want positive change, make it your responsibility to hand feed the info to the ignorant. Show your friends that things aren't what they seem. As stupid as many people are, they still have the ability to learn and make better decisions when given easier access to the information. Be the vehicle that delivers the information to make a positive change. Sway your friends votes. Discuss what matters, try and make this fucking shithole a better place. If you don't, you can't complain. Everyone has the power to change the world, albeit in a fucking minuscule way. When you assemble, all of a sudden that way becomes exponentially larger.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but you are basing your vote for control of the Canadian economy, laws and tax system on having a party that won't make you register a rifle?
The long gun registry was a giant money sink that was a blatant waste of time for everybody involved. It failed to accomplish it's goal because the justification for it was based on flawed logic. If Mulcair insists that he intends to bring such a monumental failure back for the sake of an interest group that has little to no real knowledge of firearms or what drives gun violence in general, what reason would I have to vote such a man back into office?

If the conservatives wanted to guarantee a vote from firearms owners, they did it with bill C-42, along with minister Blaney making good on his promise to reverse the RCMP prohibition of CZ-858 and Swiss Arms rifles.

I would rather not vote for a party that prides itself in attempting to destroy one of the only hobbies that I enjoy. The razing wouldn't stop at the long gun registry, I can guarantee you.

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Multi, I can appreciate your negativity. The world is fucked.....
What if rather then a Zionist\Mason proxy run country... in history Hitler had powered his way into a monolithic banking powerhouse and through debt owed, was controlling Canada's affairs this way.

Hitlers Canada would play the role of a "peace keeper" but in reality was;
1 shipping billions in weapons to the Saudi's... who are indiscriminately dropping bombs on Yemen, killing over 5k in several months.

2 Sending supplies and military experts to train the new (U.S.A. 5 billion dollar created gov) Ukrainian army....which is still to this day indiscriminately shelling civilians.

3 locally, through our mp providing moral support for isreal which also bombs people indiscriminately (still waiting for the footage of Hamas rockets being fired next to hospitals, schools and U.N. shelters)

Wouldnt we be disillusioned cogs if we knew Hitler was controlling Canada yet we still kept voting the politicians provided and thus giving this system credibility?
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I'm probably one of the few on RS who will be voting conservatives, its no secret I lean fairly right on some issues. The issues that are at the top of my priority list are security/military and finances. Being involved as a PMC whos been boots down overseas and seen some of the things going on behind the scenes that most don't, I see the practical value and application of Bill C-51 for the most part. I also support the increase in TFSA contribution limits, low corporate and small business rates, and Nothern Gateway and other pipelines.

Liberals would be the only other party I would consider voting for but their platform is has a few items going against what I'd personally like and Justin Trudeau just annoys me to no end.

NDP, I'm pretty much against the majority of their platform, so no way I would ever vote for them.
In practical application, shouldn't most people be maxing out their RRSP before touching their TFSA? Even as a student who pays limited taxes, the higher TFSA contribution limits isn't too valuable of a tool to me.

As well, with regards to their economic record, they've had some trouble balancing budgets - the last 7, and perhaps this year's budget as well given the bleak outlook. After June results are out, it also looks like we'll be headed into a technical recession.

I personally like to see actual meaningful results, and am a bit jaded towards distracting gimmicks. I can understand the value of the Conservative platform, but they really haven't delivered on their promises.
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It depends on what you are investing in.. RRSPs have taxes deferred until you withdraw but you don't need to pay US Cap gain (30%) because of tax treaty.

TFSA you don't need to pay any Canadian taxes but you need to pay US Cap gain. I rather max out my TFSA over maxing RRSP if I am fiscally limited. Also TFSA doesnt have time limit when you need to draw down and all that bs. I personally find the increase limit a nice bonus.

Remember even as a student you might not max out the TFSA.. the TFSA contribution limit increases every year and is retroactive so say if you earn 150k per year when you graduate, you can easily back fill.

If leveraged well, people can make a good deal of money tax free using tfsa.. especially this year with market like gang busters you can get an easy 20% gain. As long as you don't take the S too literally and don't fall into the 1.75% bonus savings like most banks are hawking.

We are in a recession.. see the other thread.

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The problem for me is that Im very right leaning, I am strongly pro-firearms, I own a small business, and am very anti-union, and I very strongly believe against socialist handouts and I believe in working hard to get ahead.

But I don't like the idea of career politicians, or one party being in power for well over a decade, as no matter the party, favors are made, and corruption happens.
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I made 1.2% on my TFSA last month alone. Hoping to close the year with a 10% return.
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Also note in Gov and rating agencies' eyes... personal debt ratio is a societal aggregate.. TFSA might only benefit higher income Canadians.. but it provides enough incentive for the aggregate personal debt to decrease to a saner level.. Yes, there are side effects, but for its primary purpose (ie to make our personal debt level looks less tragic), I think it is pretty effective.

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Based on the site above and a quick skim, it seems the liberals and ndp are adopting similar measures. They seem to be on the same page regarding the TFSA, bill c-51 in some aspects, pension. The trend seems that the liberals want to add committees to overlook other departments. Not sure if I enjoy the idea of expanding the bureaucracy. The Liberals seem really bold in wanting to legalize pot, which (just my opinion) will scare voters away from the liberals (older generations who grew up/programmed to oppose marijuana as well as misinformed citizens about that drug).
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