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Old 12-15-2010, 12:02 PM   #26
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^ scroll up for the answers...your car was locked right?
unless the laws have changed, you should dispute it.
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What section of the MVA did you get charged for?
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:55 PM   #28
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The only problem I can see is if there is an anti-idling bylaw prohibiting you from running the car for more than three minutes.
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Were your car doors locked?

Was your car parked on the street?
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:22 PM   #30
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I did see all the comments above my posting.

My car was locked, immobilizer still active. Key needs to be inserted into ignition and turned before the pedals work.

I need to check the ticket which is at home to see which section I got charged for.

I do recall the description being, "Leaving car running unattended"...something along the lines.

I only ask again now just to make sure that all the comment which were made in 2004 haven't changed.

The car was parked along the side of the house, small city street, not personal property.
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:48 PM   #31
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He does have a good point though... It wasn't all that cold out.
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I'll be pretty choked if I find out the government allows the sale of remote starters, but has a law preventing their use.
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:35 PM   #33
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How long did you leave your car idling? I know people with remote starts and they've never had problems like this.
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:56 PM   #34
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Bored cop eh.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:16 PM   #35
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I had the car running for about 10 minutes. I use the remote start all the time and never been hassled before.

I really do agree with you T.H.C., I think he was just a little bored and needed something to do.

Can anyone else confirm that I am not at fault here? I do not want to dispute if I am the one who clearly has it all wrong.

*edit* wrong account haha...
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:23 PM   #36
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whats the ticket for? 3min idle? cause thats only thing i can think of. if your car was locked should be fine to dispute...
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You still didn't post what section of the MVA you were ticketed under.

And what car do you have that needs to be warmed up for 10 minutes before driving....? in 10 degree weather...?
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thats bs, as soon as you touch the break peddle without keys in ignition the car turns off so you can't steal if it unless you have a key so thats pointless

dispute the ticket because tahts BS why would they sell and have it from factory if your not allowed to use it?

i kno people in california with remote starts just to cool the car off, what is it too hot there to use it as well?
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when they implemented the idling by-laws in 2006 they said they won't give tickets..just like how they won't give tickets if you don't yield for a bus.

Unless that's changed in the last 4 years...
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when they implemented the idling by-laws in 2006 they said they won't give tickets..just like how they won't give tickets if you don't yield for a bus.

Unless that's changed in the last 4 years...
They better be giving tickets for not yielding to a bus.
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2.7 A person must not cause or permit a motor vehicle to idle:

(a) for more than three consecutive minutes in a 60 minute period; or

(b) while unattended and unlocked.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:37 AM   #42
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MVA 191(2)(9)

This is what it says as for the section. I can't tell whether the last number/letter is a "9" or a lower case "a"

Correction to the description "Leave Vehicle Unattended Unsecure"

There was no talk regarding idling, he did say he was there for about 10-15 minutes and that leaving a car running regardless if it was started via a remote starter or not was still illegal.
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MVA 191(2)(9)

This is what it says as for the section. I can't tell whether the last number/letter is a "9" or a lower case "a"

Correction to the description "Leave Vehicle Unattended Unsecure"

There was no talk regarding idling, he did say he was there for about 10-15 minutes and that leaving a car running regardless if it was started via a remote starter or not was still illegal.
Interesting.... you may actually have a valid dispute. That section specifically says:

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191 (1) A motor vehicle must be equipped with a lock or other device to prevent the unauthorized use of the motor vehicle.

(2) A driver must not permit a motor vehicle to stand unattended or parked unless the driver has
(a) locked it or made it secure in a manner that prevents its unauthorized use, and
(b) if the motor vehicle is standing on a grade, turned the front wheels of the vehicle to the curb or side of the highway.
http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bcl...eside/96318_05

If the doors were locked, AND you have an immobilizer that shuts the car off if someone enters it, then you've more than fulfilled the exceptions of the section he wrote you under.
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Some municipalities have and enforce rules about duration of idling too. In Whistler for example, it's illegal to have your car idling for more then 5 minutes, weather you're in it or not.
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So if you're in the ferry line in the middle of winter and you're idling your car to provide you with heat...
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So if you're in the ferry line in the middle of winter and you're idling your car to provide you with heat...
go sit in the waiting lounge...

if you're driving in the winter. you should always have enough clothes in the car to stay warm. what if your car dies on the side of the road somewhere?


can you even be charged under the MVA for a car parked in your driveway on private property? most of the rules don't come into effect untill you're on a public highway.

the idle law is a bylaw though and would still be in effect.
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go sit in the waiting lounge...
Don't be making sense now, sebberry won't know what to do with it.

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if you're driving in the winter. you should always have enough clothes in the car to stay warm. what if your car dies on the side of the road somewhere?
Idle it until you run out of gas, of course... or until global warming kicks in and thaws you out.
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Thanks for the help guys, the officer was not trying to pin me on idling. He was mostly concerned about me leaving my car on unattended.

He mentioned that a ton of cars get stolen in Vancouver and that I was "lucky" no one took my car while it was on...

He totally overlooked the fact that I explained to him about the vehicle being locked and with features that disengage the engine without the key which has the immobilizer bypass chip embedded.
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He can show his concern without handing you a ticket, especially not one that can be easily disputed. As noted, the section he wrote it under specifically states that you may leave it running if it's been "locked or made secure", and you've covered both criteria by locking it, AND having the immobilizer. One tug on the door handle could have proved to him on the spot that you were in compliance with the regulations.
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