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06-27-2008, 12:13 AM
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#151 | | I HERP TO YOU DERP
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i would be targetting those young RFA's ... by trading of course
I'm not fond of any UFA this year, hossa included
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06-27-2008, 12:22 AM
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#152 | | Banned (ABWS)?
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer  ^ as has been said a million, quadrillion times...AV has to coach a system like that or similar in order for us to succeed, you think we would fair any better with crow back behind the bench running a run and gun offense with no skilled scorers?
we need the right peices in place to change the system | Well besides Cloutier, I thought Canucks actually faired a better chance at being cup contenders with Crawford. Don't forget who was coaching the WCE. Combination of bad playoff goalie, Bertuzzi getting suspended, Nazzy getting leg injury, Canucks just never went into playoffs fully prepared in those several years when they were at flying during the regular season. That being said, Canucks most likely wouldn't of won the cup those years anyway, but I would think they would of gotten far. AV's system does work to a certain degree, so I can't say his system is flawed. But so far, it doesn't look like it's the better system either. Quote:
Originally Posted by 6thGear. if AV coaches an offensive game similar to what buffalo had(scoring on 3 lines) plus a solid defence(not even necessarily the best defense in the league) in front of luongo, the canucks will have a good chance to win, night in, night out. i'd take a well balanced canucks team over run and gun canucks team anyday. | Currently, canucks are neither run and gun or balanced 
But like you said, Canucks don't need the best defense. Canucks already have one of the best goalies in the league (if not the best). Unload some valuable D-men and get some valuable offense... Quote:
Originally Posted by jigga250 except the nucks don't have anywhere NEAR 3 lines of scoring  | That's why Canucks are far from being cup contenders right now.
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06-27-2008, 12:52 AM
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#153 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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^ that's the point. we can't compare systems because AV had to use the one he did because of what he had to work with. he didn't have the benefit of the WCE. he had a second line minus carter that was really his only scoring line, if we could even call it that. i think we had the potential to make it far the year AV got us the best record in franchise history, except we were unfortunate to have been matched up against the powerhouse ducks. then the following season, i know nobody likes to use it as an excuse, but being riddled with injuries really did hold us back. still, i agree that we had the best chance when crawford was here..not necessarily because of the coaching, but because of the team we had.
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06-27-2008, 03:44 AM
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#154 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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here's a list of ufas and rfas for the coming free agency http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11074
i don't mind craig conroy, daymond langkow, kristian huselius, stephen yelle, brian rolston, sean avery, brendan shanahan, ryan malone, gary roberts, george laraque, andrew brunette ...in no real order of course 
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06-27-2008, 08:55 AM
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06-27-2008, 09:01 AM
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#156 | | Banned (ABWS)?
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Originally Posted by ChaKo ^ that's the point. we can't compare systems because AV had to use the one he did because of what he had to work with. he didn't have the benefit of the WCE. he had a second line minus carter that was really his only scoring line, if we could even call it that. i think we had the potential to make it far the year AV got us the best record in franchise history, except we were unfortunate to have been matched up against the powerhouse ducks. then the following season, i know nobody likes to use it as an excuse, but being riddled with injuries really did hold us back. still, i agree that we had the best chance when crawford was here..not necessarily because of the coaching, but because of the team we had. | That's true... I am curious though how AV would of coached the team if he had the WCE. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer malone is too old, if im gonna take an older guy i'll take rolston | Quote:
Originally Posted by iwantaskyline malone is 28 lol | Maybe he was thinking of Demitra. He's like 35. He's gonna be done soon. But at 4mil, can't lose with that price tag.
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06-27-2008, 09:10 AM
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#157 | | I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
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wow i cant believe he's on waivers.
hes actually someone that we need but he wouldnt want to be back here
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06-27-2008, 11:37 AM
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#158 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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Originally Posted by 7seven | hmm fairly suprising..but kinda goes to show that burkes even smarter then you would think, and more cutthroat too
poor bert
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06-27-2008, 11:57 AM
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#159 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by stuff99 wow i cant believe he's on waivers.
hes actually someone that we need but he wouldnt want to be back here | I think more then that it's someone the team can't bring back here. Way to much baggage especially with the whole lawsuit thing still not resolved it would bring to much negative attention this way.
He'll play somewhere but for probably half of what the Ducks were paying him.
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06-27-2008, 12:03 PM
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#160 | | I STILL don't get it
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interesting one year for 4 mil.
I wouldn't mind taking it if we can get Naslund to resign for one more year. The Sedins might be gone next summer anyways. Give it one last try. Then we can clean house next season if it doesn't work out.
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06-27-2008, 12:21 PM
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#161 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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realistically if we tried to reunite the WCE line, we could run them as our 3rd line, build a first line through FA, and sign a winger the play with the sedins and make a run for it if gillis was crazy enough lol
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06-27-2008, 12:23 PM
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#162 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by stuff99 wow i cant believe he's on waivers.
hes actually someone that we need but he wouldnt want to be back here | Even though I realize thing's are not the same as they once were, I still would like to see Bert back.
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06-27-2008, 12:34 PM
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#163 | | I'm better than you.
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kristian huselius. we must get him.
along with bert :P
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06-27-2008, 12:35 PM
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#164 | | I'm better than you.
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leafs threw away raycroft too
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06-27-2008, 02:21 PM
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#165 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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Originally Posted by Noir Even though I realize thing's are not the same as they once were, I still would like to see Bert back. | Me too. He's like that exgf u still wanna fuck.
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06-27-2008, 03:25 PM
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#166 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] leafs threw away raycroft too | Not to mention they had to give up their goalie of the future (Tuukka Rask) to get him. At least Toronto still has a potential number 1 in Justin Pogge.
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06-27-2008, 04:52 PM
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#167 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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bert wouldnt come back i dont think..honestly to say...
honestly, if nazzy were to come back...it wouldnt surprise me, it wouldnt be a surprise if he wasnt resigned
heard some stuff today that bert n nazzy were tryin to package something now in the lines of kariya/selanne but half the price, but i highly doubt that is true...
we see how htings are..Gillis has a different relationship with players in general because he was an agent b4, he might be able to bring in some good guys..but ughh..don think so...
nazzy showing dimetra around to me is just a friend to friend thing..why cant ppl think about that.
Bertuzzi fits in a run n gun in ur face style of hockey the canucks havent seen since he punched out wuzzy moore.
regardless..just wait n see...but berts value has decreased, but there are teams that can use his services well. Man..if he goes to the flames, then it be interesting
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06-27-2008, 04:54 PM
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#168 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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bertuzzi on waivers, lets pick him up
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06-27-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vapour_lock bertuzzi on waivers, lets pick him up | That would be a step backwards....
Might as well pick up Clouts, re-hire Crawford... 
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06-27-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer realistically if we tried to reunite the WCE line, we could run them as our 3rd line, build a first line through FA, and sign a winger the play with the sedins and make a run for it if gillis was crazy enough lol | as much as i would like to see WCE back as the 3rd line. i seriously have to say a big fat NO!!! i hate to say this, but thats the problem with canucks and fans of past. when some player did decent or good, then leave us, and then becomes available later in the future, everyone starts shouting OMGWTFBBQ "lets get him!!" come on, if we want the nucks to move forward, we gotta stop doing that. this team needs fresh and new faces. unfortunately both nasland and bertuzzi needs a change of scenery. to say they both are past their prime is ridiculous, they just need to find a good fit.
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06-27-2008, 08:17 PM
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#171 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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i officially took down 2007-2008 team poster off my wall.
now that july 1st, open for free agent market.
let see some new faces!!
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06-28-2008, 11:44 AM
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#172 | | Banned (ABWS)?
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Damn... WCE was an awesome line but remember how it wasn't working near the end before it got broken up?
A WCE revival wouldn't be the same anymore.
-Lack of chemistry (after being apart so many years)
-Players are several years older, aren't as fast anymore.
-Different coach, WCE wouldn't fit with AV's system.
This idea is ridiculous.
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06-28-2008, 11:54 AM
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#173 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Watch the WCE are all gonne be free agents and all of them are gonna land on the same team. That would be crazy. Im hoping its Vancouver.
And whoever said that they werent good anymore in their last season together.
Naslund 32G 47A 79P
Bertuzzi 25G 46A 71P
Morrison 19G 37A 56P
Im not saying there gonna be hitting those #'s again, but they'll most likely always have there chemistry. They all can still play the game, the only thing hindering them is more than likely AV's coaching style
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06-28-2008, 12:14 PM
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#174 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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i miss the west coast express... best line in canucks history.
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06-28-2008, 12:22 PM
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aznnightmare said they weren't. thing is, bert constantly got those stupid penalties in front of the net. the exact push-off move he patented the year b4 and never got bothered for it. yet that year, kept getting called for it. i honestly think that the league had something to do with that. then teams knew what to do..hockeys equivalant of "shaq-a-hack" they started to get read, at the same time, top defense pairs were not facing the twins/carter, and they flourished. not knowing how to stop the 2nd line, twins/carter seemed unstoppable and crawford went with what worked. bert got pissed cause first line out for the PP was them and not the WCE. which started the team being split up, and well, we know what happened after that. WCE part II would work again. they have size, power, skill
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