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09-10-2008, 01:10 AM
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#26 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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Originally Posted by asian_XL  how much do you really know about rocket science? SFUdropout.
it's no brainer...it's like comparing a Mercedes and a Kia | It ain't rocket science to understand that once a technology has been mastered it only takes a matter of time before it dominates the world.
Perhaps NASA is more capable than China's space program. But how does it make China's a 2nd rated when there are only 3 countries that have managed to send astraunauts into space? USA, Russia, and China. In this stage of time, there are no 1st class space programs on earth, because everyone is still at the beginning stage to explore the universe. According to a news, NASA is very fond of the new Shenzhou technology.
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09-10-2008, 01:35 AM
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#27 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Why are there people critizing China space program...it benefits EVERYONE that we have more competition in the space race.
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09-10-2008, 01:51 AM
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#28 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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|  Quote: Nigeria
Program Founded: 1998
Budget: $93 million (initial funding)
Yes, Nigeria actually has its own space agency. The organization sent up its first satellite, a weather unit, back in 2003. In May 2007, China assisted in the launch of NigComSat-1, which helps provide Internet access to rural areas of the country.
Algeria
Program Founded: 2002
Budget: Unknown
France helped establish a constellation of desert launch sites more than 60 years ago. In 2002, the newly formed Agence Spatiale Algerienne blasted up Alsat-1, a 200-pound cube that has beamed back more than 1,000 photos as well as intel for disaster relief.
Israel
Program Founded: 1983
Budget: $50 million (est.)
Israel's Shavit launch vehicle is used primarily for communications, imaging, and research satellites — always over the Mediterranean to avoid flying above hostile neighbors. The first Israeli astronaut, Ilan Ramon, died aboard the NASA shuttle Columbia.
India
Program Founded: 1972
Budget: $1 billion
India's space agency is racing to be the sixth program to reach the moon (after Russia, the US, Europe, Japan, and China) with Chandrayaan-1 — an $83 million lunar orbiter carrying NASA and ESA instruments. India aims to send up its own manned lunar mission by 2020.
Iran
Program Founded: 2003
Budget: $100 million
In October 2005, Iran launched its first satellite, Sina-1, aboard a Russian rocket. Earlier this year, the country fired its own rocket, Kavoshgar-1, designed to scout future orbital paths. By 2010, Tehran expects to deploy four additional satellites.
Brazil
Program Founded: 1994
Budget: $125 million
In 2003, an explosion on the launch pad took 21 lives. But Brazil rebounded the next year, when a VSB-30 rocket reached an altitude of 160 miles. In 2006, Marcos Pontes became the first Brazilian in space, floating aboard the International Space Station for eight days.
Japan
Program Founded: 2003
Budget: $2.5 billion
Japan has yet to build a spacecraft fit for humans. But it did send the first journalist into space: 18 years ago, Toyohiro Akiyama spent a week on the Russian space station Mir. The Japanese are eyeing a lunar landing in 2020 and hoping to build a base on the moon by 2030.
China
Program Founded: 1993
Budget: $2 billion (est.)
From the Gobi Desert, China sent its first human into orbit in 2003 — becoming the fourth agency to do so. Today, manned missions are taking off on a regular basis. Officials are planning China's first space walk this fall and expect to launch a moon rover by 2012.
European Space Agency
Program Founded: 1975
Budget: $5 billion
On the ESA's plate: launching the James Webb Space Telescope (with NASA and Canada) in 2013. The following year, its Rosetta spacecraft will meet up with 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko for the first long-term analysis of a comet.
Russia
Program Founded: 1920s
Budget: $1.5 billion
Russia helps fund its space program by licensing its rocket tech and assisting other countries' initiatives. (South Korea paid $25 million to send up its first citizen.) A joint effort with China aims to launch a soil-collecting satellite to the Martian moon Phobos in 2009.
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09-10-2008, 05:03 AM
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#29 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by SpoonWork the sad thing is that the China-can-do-no-right has probably more Chinese decendents than whiteys..
aka. CBC, bananas.. those ppl are the saddest group of population.. they belong no where. | Canada, that's where i belong mother fucker
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09-10-2008, 05:54 AM
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It's all good. One day we'll end up like Firefly and it'll be a union of China and the US! 
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Originally Posted by SpoonWork It ain't rocket science to understand that once a technology has been mastered it only takes a matter of time before it dominates the world.
Perhaps NASA is more capable than China's space program. But how does it make China's a 2nd rated when there are only 3 countries that have managed to send astraunauts into space? USA, Russia, and China. | It's the 4th agency to do so according to asian_xl's post, I guess that makes it 4th rated. It's the third country to independently send people into space
Is the third agency Scaled Composites with their Ansari X PRIZE winner? Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoonWork In this stage of time, there are no 1st class space programs on earth, because everyone is still at the beginning stage to explore the universe. According to a news, NASA is very fond of the new Shenzhou technology. | If there's nothing better, the best is 1st class. You can't rate things on imaginary data from the future.
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09-10-2008, 10:04 AM
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#32 | | Banned By Establishment
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LOL....
Let's all go to HK and get the fan ban shuttle and fly up first.
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09-10-2008, 10:04 AM
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#33 | | linguistic ninja
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^I believe the 3rd agency is the European Space Agency.
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09-10-2008, 11:31 AM
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#34 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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Originally Posted by Nightwalker It's the 4th agency to do so according to asian_xl's post, I guess that makes it 4th rated. It's the third country to independently send people into space
Is the third agency Scaled Composites with their Ansari X PRIZE winner?
If there's nothing better, the best is 1st class. You can't rate things on imaginary data from the future. |
The amount of funding and hard work needed to explore space takes precision, dedication and time.
What makes you think anything BUT 1st class can accomplish that?
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09-10-2008, 01:49 PM
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#35 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by Nightwalker It's the 4th agency to do so according to asian_xl's post, I guess that makes it 4th rated. It's the third country to independently send people into space
| Does Ford have the highest productivity because they were the first to have an assembly line? Are the French best at making cars because they invented it too? Why is China 4th rated because they are the 4th to do so, You gotta be pretty damn stupid to "guess" that. 
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09-10-2008, 02:13 PM
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#36 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by FiveDime go china 50 years to late | Well Google has been in the business for not more than 10 years, and look where they are today.Yes china does have a lot to catch up, but they are advancing at an unprecedented rate.
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09-10-2008, 06:14 PM
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#37 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by fetched Does Ford have the highest productivity because they were the first to have an assembly line? Are the French best at making cars because they invented it too? Why is China 4th rated because they are the 4th to do so, You gotta be pretty damn stupid to "guess" that. | ranking is a benchmark, you idiot.
europe, russia and USA can do whatever china can do and in addition to that, they can orbitting the earth, having space station up in the space, sending wall-e to another planet, and faking the moon landing...
Conclusion? China is still at the very early stage, so comparatively, China is 2nd class.
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09-10-2008, 06:57 PM
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#38 | | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
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soon, china will be sending up citizens in the masses to the moon to take care of their population problem.. or into the sun.
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09-10-2008, 06:57 PM
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The USA is getting out of space exploration, and China is getting into it.
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09-10-2008, 07:13 PM
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#40 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by CivicBlues Considering that 50 years ago China was an agrarian society ravaged by WWII and Civil war, I would say it's more like 50 years too soon.
But this is Revscene, where China bashing is the norm for whitey. | Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues ...and what does this have to do with their space program? | and what does WW2 and civil war have to do with China's space program?
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09-10-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dna82 and what does WW2 and civil war have to do with China's space program? | He's making the point that a society which in 1949 was on the brink of total collapse after half a century of civil war has come so far in such a (comparatively) amount of time.
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09-10-2008, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludepower Why are there people critizing China space program...it benefits EVERYONE that we have more competition in the space race. | I only counted one. It's the internet, you can ignore it. Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicBlues I see this is going to turn into another China-can-do-no-wrong (China Nationalists) vs. China can-do-no-right (whiteys)
why can't you people get a fucking clue and stop being such caricatures of yourselves? | I only counted 1 troll in this thread - the diarrhea of China. We all know who he is. Why is the loser back?
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09-11-2008, 08:24 AM
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#43 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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09-11-2008, 03:06 PM
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#44 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by RTS He's making the point that a society which in 1949 was on the brink of total collapse after half a century of civil war has come so far in such a (comparatively) amount of time. | and i'm making the point that they were on the brink of total collapse after a half a century of civil war because they failed to adapt to the contexts of the time and their successive governments were so rife with corruption and imcompetance that they got their asses handed to them by the europeans.
'if only we didn't have that pesky civil war we could've gotten into space quicker' mentality is bullshit because they put themselves in that position.
i was merely juxtaposing both comments because he answered my question with a question.
'coming so far in half a century' easy to do when someone has already paved the way for you.
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09-11-2008, 07:24 PM
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#45 | | linguistic ninja
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...and so what would we expect China to do? remain a backward and poor country? Maybe you should bash Germany and Japan's economic miracle because they got their "asses handed to them" by the Allies. Developing quality electronics when their society is still so backward tsk tsk for shame! Regardless of what you believe to be the merits of space travel over human development, I would rather see a three way space race rather than none. Competition spurs development.
Your "point" really has no merit other than to bash China, tool.
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09-11-2008, 10:00 PM
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#46 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by dna82 and i'm making the point that they were on the brink of total collapse after a half a century of civil war because they failed to adapt to the contexts of the time and their successive governments were so rife with corruption and imcompetance that they got their asses handed to them by the europeans.
'if only we didn't have that pesky civil war we could've gotten into space quicker' mentality is bullshit because they put themselves in that position.
i was merely juxtaposing both comments because he answered my question with a question.
'coming so far in half a century' easy to do when someone has already paved the way for you. | CivicBlues said it best above. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
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09-12-2008, 03:57 PM
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#47 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by CivicBlues ...and so what would we expect China to do? remain a backward and poor country? Maybe you should bash Germany and Japan's economic miracle because they got their "asses handed to them" by the Allies. Developing quality electronics when their society is still so backward tsk tsk for shame! Regardless of what you believe to be the merits of space travel over human development, I would rather see a three way space race rather than none. Competition spurs development.
Your "point" really has no merit other than to bash China, tool. | how about spending the money on something important? like lifting the rest of the 800million people above poverty? universal education? or maybe some practical social reforms? that's what i'd expect them to do.
i'd like to see a modern China that earns respect on the world stage through social reforms, rather then shooting another rocket into space. space ships don't feed people or improve the quality of lives.
always this 'look at me attitude', nothing more then a child.
edit: what the hell does germany and japan have to do with this? they lost, got reformed, and are now respected members of the international community. china lost, turned to communism and are not respected members of the international community.
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09-12-2008, 04:57 PM
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#48 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by dna82
always this 'look at me attitude', nothing more then a child.
| ^very sad indeed
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09-12-2008, 05:49 PM
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#49 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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china lost, turned to communism and are not respected members of the international community.
| jeezz give china a break already, china's population is 45 times of canada, so i say considering how big the country is, they governement is doing a pretty good job already. Sure it's had its share of problems and issuses, but that's like any other country ie. U.S. And If you actually go to China and ask ppl there, most of them are actully quite happy with the current situtation.
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#50 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by Carl Johnson jeezz give china a break already, china's population is 45 times of canada, so i say considering how big the country is, they governement is doing a pretty good job already. Sure it's had its share of problems and issuses, but that's like any other country ie. U.S. And If you actually go to China and ask ppl there, most of them are actully quite happy with the current situtation. | have you been to china ''city'' or china ''rural''?
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