If the father was smart he would have realized that it wasn't a real threat to his son, and it was over before he stepped in. He should have stepped in between but I don't think he should have punched him like that. Obviously if the kick was more intense then by all means...

I guess you feel differently when you're a father. But I agree with the punch.

It looked like his 'keeper' was there at the register (the fat chick) so she should have had a better handle on him.

It's only natural to defend your child. If you were the father and you didn't punch the guy back (albeit he has down syndrome), shame on you.

that WAS a nice punch, right on the kisser

I woulda done the exact same thing too, like the other 99% of people who posted in here
and a kid is a kid, he can be as loud and annoying as he wants, even if he aggravated the Downs guy

You would be the worse father ever, wait let me refraise that, BITCH ASS father ever, i would be ashamed if my dad didnt knock out a guy after he kicked me

the father did good.

you never know wut a retard is capable of. i once saw a retard go ballistic on another retard girl, lol was kinda funny. but point is, he didnt stop.

what if this retard in the video grabbed a chair or soemthing hard and hit the lil kid after wards?

nice punch. one shot one kill

I think you are very wrong. I have three children. Two are in University and are doing very well. The youngest is still in secondary school. All of them are decent individuals who make a difference in their community. Don't question my parenting skills, loser.

I have no idea who you are or what you do, but it's people like you who turn this place into a............. never mind. I don't have to reply to posts like yours. At this moment I feel like finding out who you are. PM me and we can settle this. Then, we'll see who's the bitch. But, that would just make me stoop to your level of understanding. Grow up, bitch! You can have your opinion and you're entitled to it, but don't for one second judge me, you fucken retard. There I go again. Good thing I learned to manage my anger a bit over the years.

Agreed.
Let's tone down the personal attacks here.
disagree and argue all you want, but keep the personal attacks away from the main forums.

Good post. This world needs more people that think before they act. :thumbsup:

Yes, I have a son, and if someone harmed him in any way, I'd be pretty pissed. That kick didn't appear that vicious, so I'd probably just yell at the down syndrome guy. Of course, if my kid was being a pain in the ass, then I would also be partially to blame.

If someone tried to abduct or abuse my son, then all bets are off.

holy fuck, how old are you?

That guy's lucky it wasn't the kid's mom that attacked him. Mother's tend to go really fkn ballistic when their babies get touched. I don't think he would be alive anymore if it was the mother instead.


HAHAHA
:haha::haha: my same reaction.

Two kids in university? you must be like 45-50 something. Sorry, I just can't picture someone as old as my dad typing like the way you do. That's kinda cool in a way. lol... damn, for some retarded reason, I can't stop laughing right now.

i'd agree if my kid was like 7 or 8, but at 4, i'd still be super protective and i'd react the same way.

All I care about would be if the father apologized to the mother and the kid with DS. It would show that he defended his child out of instinct, but that he acknowledged the guy had a disability and never intended to harm the child.

i think 89blkcivic is 49? he posted his age before.

Yea he's up there in the geezer range. Some of his posts don't seem very appropriate for his age. On the other hand, its a public online forum so who cares.

Geezer range? LOL. So this means you would fall under the punk range?

Your comments can be viewed as age discrimination, but as you mentioned, it's a public on-line forum, so who cares..........

I thought Revscene was a car site. Working on cars is a hobby of mine. So is car audio. I didn't know there was an age restriction. I frequent the board for another reason. To see what the younger generation is up to - break the generation gap, so to speak. There are more of us "geezers" on Revscene. Even some women *gasp*. I just happen to be more "out there". I used to lurk, but found it much more entertaining to post once in a while. Of course my views will be slightly different. And, at times I don't feel like I fit in. Anyway, life sucks and then you die, so......... let's move on.

I'm going to try....

My little sister has special needs. When she gets overwhelmed she can react out of anxiety about what's going on around her. She has pushed my 2 year old nephew down because he won't leave her alone, he is being too loud or even because he has taken one of her toys and she has actual fear about whether or not she'll get it back, it's a safety blanket in a scary world. She does not do this without punishment, I absolutely agree that the man knew this was wrong. But does he deserve violence?

My sister knows how to use a cell phone as it is a matter of safety. Every day she goes out into a world where the average person does not understand her life. It's terrifying for my family but we want her to have her independence. I can't fault people for thinking the way they were brought up to think, that special needs is something wrong. Not everyone has the grace to believe it is a gift. I've learned more from my sister than years of schooling.

We live in a society with little tolerance or compassion. I see clerks get impatient while she is learning to count out change and parents get furious when she splashes back their 5 year old in the pool. I guess its my challenge to learn to accept and understand their reactions.

Has anyone here ever had a good experience with someone with different abilities?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that's what I love most about the special needs community. Very rarely do I see us judge or preach segregation. I get to coach special olympics and it is easily the best part of my whole week. I used to take special kids on tours of the firehall and literaly be moved to tears by hearing the firefighters tell me its the best part of their year. I know that there is a lot of understanding out there, and I know most people are good given the chance to show it. I have hope that one day threads like this would turn to an intelligent discussion about the rights and wrongs of what the father did. And that they wouldn't have the uneducated title that it does now. I know its just revscene but it's still a public forum where opinions are valued.

Anyways, go ahead and slam, just thought I'd try to bring a slightly different view to the whole thing, and maybe make someone else who has a sibling or a friend with special needs smile :)

Great post and thanks.

This is why we need to have more integration of students with special needs in our schools. The schools that do, are very fortunate. You talk about learning from them. That's exactly why it works. My children went to a school that had full integration of special needs children and they learned a lot about respect, empathy, etc. Stuff you cannot teach. Again, great post, my friend.

Hiyah! Nice punch.

If this went to court, I'd represent the person with down syndrome. EASY MONEY!

A person who can't function in society doesn't deserve to be in society unsupervised. Did he deserve the punch? Yes, because he won't learn any other way. The guy looks around 40 something, he had 40 years to learn that kicking other people isn't right. If a person won't learn by being spoken to, then show him what it feels like.

This is exactly what Care was refering to.

If someone is "stuck" at the mental age of a 5 year old due to a mental disablility... you would rather treat them how a person of normal intellect of their actual age should be treated? Who cares if he looked 40. It's called a disablilty for a reason.
Would you punch a 5 year old kid in the face because he kicked your 5 year old? NO you wouldn't so why is it OK to treat a person with the mentality of a 5 year old any different? He was supervised but like any "child" they act out and do things that are not always appropriate.

Going with most of your comments on this... most of you seem to lack a fundamental understand of what its like to deal with someone with special needs. Its not your fault but it is a shame. Just because someone with special needs appears to be "grown up" or an adult has absolutely nothing to do with their underlying issues whatever they may be.

For those of you who answered with "He deserved it" or anything close to it... where do you draw the line? If a quadrapellagic ran over your childs foot by accident with his wheel chair would you punch him in the face? They are both bound and restricted to their disablitites so perhaps you can learn to overcome your fear and missunderstanding and learn to accept those around you for who they are.

Berz out.

That's a great question.
In this situation, I'm sure emotions were the guiding force. Once given the chance to think about it, I'm sure the guy felt like an ass. I know I would given the situation.

But when emotion takes over a person may lose their ability to control their actions. Like the guy who beat up the driver who hit his girlfriend the other day. They were jaywalking, btw.

I stand by my reply, in that I would have reacted the same way. You don't get between a bear and her cub, then why would you physically attack a child that's not yours?

Regardless of whether or not they understand their actions, the deed was done.

care: i think the major determining factor here is whether or not the father acted out of instinct to protect his child. there was maybe 2 seconds in between the kick and the punch. i guess we'll never know for sure if it was an automatic type response or if he noticed that the boy had special needs and followed through with the punch anyway. remember this is a 4 year old hes protecting; still a baby in his fathers eyes.

berz: a quadrapallegic would be different for sure... it takes less than a glance to stop before punching a guy in a wheelchair. i dont think this man looked too closely at the boy's facial features before acting in defense. just one of those situations where 'shit happened'.

so is this a boy or a 40year old?
The video is too fuzzy for me to actually tell...