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Old 12-29-2008, 01:22 PM   #26
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factory mechanical lsd in my cressida FTW i have very little problems in the snow even if its a foot deep i'll make it.
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RWD open diffs are great in the rain on a 96hp car
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I saw a rusted out Volvo 240 try to drift the Broadway exit on Gallardi. He had fire coming out of the exhaust. Was that you?
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my car has a VLSD and i hate it... i liked the Clutch type LSD from the previous series a lot better.
haha at least your vlsd doesn't turn into an open diff like my torsen does on the ice
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Another type of mechanical LSD is the clutch type LSD. These are adjsutable with plates and clutch discs, and I don't think any manufacturer uses them stock.
S4 RX7's had clutch LSDs

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so do i.... VLSD isn't that great...
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I saw a rusted out Volvo 240 try to drift the Broadway exit on Gallardi. He had fire coming out of the exhaust. Was that you?
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That scared the heck out of the misses, but looked cool to see fire coming out of the exhaust.
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I had a 1980 240...that thing was lousy yet so fun in the snow
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That scared the heck out of the misses, but looked cool to see fire coming out of the exhaust.
haha, yup, except I had a side exit for a while under my gas tank opening and it lit my car on fire for a minute...

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I had a 1980 240...that thing was lousy yet so fun in the snow
I've got an 81 242 and a 82 245, my 245 is worlds biggest sleeper
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beat me to it.
even worse when u have AWD, the wheel that spins free'est, gets all the useless power.
So what the hell is the point?
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So what the hell is the point?
Of AWD? Distribute engine torque to as many contact points to minimize the chance of traction loss. Most newer AWD systems have a snow mode that locks the torque distribution to 50/50 front/rear.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:17 PM   #41
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if and when the tire isnt spinning, u get even power to all wheels (or whatever the computer distributes it as)

its when u break that initial coefficient of friction, that u lose that ability to spread even power.

but until then, its great for dead stop acceleration

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beat me to it.

basically all power goes to which ever wheel is easiest to move.

even worse when u have AWD, the wheel that spins free'est, gets all the useless power.
Does this apply for the STI as well? Or because it's a performance car, it has like fulltime AWD?
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the STI has 3 differentials that are lockable no?

so with the push of u a button, the car can act fwd, rwd, awd. so with that said, a lockable differential is way better than an open differential.

it comes down to how much $$$ a manufactuer wants to put into their drive train. eg, ur paying for a premium for the STI, ur not paying for its high styling interior, ur paying for its legendary drive train. on my highlander (de-lux'd rx300) ur paying for value, so the drive train is good, but its not gonna win rally's or offroading comps or rock climbing, the 13,000 difference between the hihglander and the rx300 is for the interior, leather, luxury goodies, vsc...


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I thought AWD systems were set up to send power to the other wheels when one starts slipping?
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I thought AWD systems were set up to send power to the other wheels when one starts slipping?
For my Pathfinder, that is pretty much what happens.

When put into AUTO MODE, the truck is pretty much RWD until one of the wheels slip. Then, it switches to 4WD which quite noticeable by the dip in RPMs and a minute jerk which seems like a typical automatic gear shift.
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I didn't know. Is that a standard with carmy's?

I suppose there's no way for me to turn off open-differential when I have one-wheel spinning out in the snow and the other one is on pavement eh?

I swear that is so useless in the snow.
yeah that's why you'll see differential-lock for SUVs. you can lock the differential for off roading.
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exact same thing happened to my mazda protege 5 the other day when I was stuck near my house.

only one of my front wheel spins, i was worried at first.
i guess it's normal thank god.
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If you do get stuck in the snow with your non lsd car, try using your left foot to apply some brake force while you give it some gas..... the braking will slow down the spinning wheel; therefore, sending power to the wheel that's not moving. I don't really want to get into alot of details, but basically, apply a bit of brake while tapping the gas lightly is alot more effective than giving it alot of gas (like most motorist I see doing when they are stuck).
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I have LSD and it's still useless in the snow! LOL Or maybe coz I'm lowered too much? Or I have all-seasons? K, fail on all counts.
i've got a vlsd in a nx2000, but i still get the occasional stuck.. but im going to blame that on the 10 yr old michelins haha!
i would think that because of the shit tires, the lsd is whats keeping me going thru snow/ice.
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