Yup...Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg have been the national champs for per-capita murders for years...looks like Edmonton is gonna take the crown for '08 (Calgary edged out Edmonton in '07 for the top title), but Calgary has a good jump on us so far this year...

What your seeing is gangsters slowly setting up shops in new cities.

First Toronto > Montreal > Vancouver > now Alberta.

Every city has seen their share of gang wars...it weeds out the weak and sets territories for one another. Toronto and Montreal are old cities...they're already established with bosses calling the shots.

Vancouver is getting better and now alberta is the new wild west.

well, you're partially right.

What you're also seeing is gangsters looking for places with more $$$. The east (especially Ontario, where a lot of them seem to be coming from) is crashing hard...it's no longer flush with cash, so people of all kinds - including the criminal element - are ditching it and jumping ship to places like Alberta, which is still doing relatively well.

Some of this article deals with that:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Albe...64866-sun.html

racial stereotypes.... pfft...

Anyone who works at the borders wanna share their stories? I worked for the CCRA about 10 years ago and about 1 out of 7 people with a vietnamese surname have some kind of criminal record. That was 10 years ago, maybe someone can tell us how it is now?

a lot of vietnamese people that i've known have had an insatiable thirst for easy money. almost to the point that it becomes their weakness. couple it with the fact that they come from a poverty stricken country that's extremely tough on crime to one where the justice system is basically a joke in comparison, and it doesn't help matters much
i know it sounds racist, but i've been close friends with predominantly vietnamese people for the better half of my life and this is just what i've observed. i've also found that they rarely back down from anything, and if they do, they never forget. very tactical thinkers. that's not to say that some haven't been the kindest, most generous, hard working people i've ever known.

Actually more than half of the people currently in a US prison are black. Now dont give me that white men bringing down the black man bullshit.

Ya they serve me my coffee at timmies every morning and clean my garbage bin for me at my office at night.

I think the difference now is the demographic, as from what I've been told, most of the past years murders were more based on family violence and drunken/drugged out debauchery than concentrated gang hits.

But yeah, Calgary is screwed, their police are even more clueless than Vancouvers, simply because they are years behind on finding cops that can relate to the various ethnic gangs. Right now it's mostly white cops that are trying to do regular detective work and they are running into the wall of silence that comes from dealing with ethnic gangs and their relatives/friends. All gangs are pretty hush hush, but there's a lot more barriers when having to deal with people who already don't trust or care about cops because of their background in other countries.

yeah, I think only 1 out of 4 murders in Calgary in '08 was confirmed to be gang-related...

As for the ethnic stuff...I've been dealing with the Somali community a LOT lately (since their youth have a bad habit of turning up dead) and they're trying VERY hard to get through to the cops and only after intense media attention (started by me) did the cops listen up and started sitting down with Somali leaders to talk about what's going on and where the victims are coming from/where the community is at.

Actually Saskatoon was the highest in 07, according to stats-can. Obviously if you're looking only at cities 500k and up, it would be Winnipeg.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-.../10671-eng.htm

That's cool, but there are a lot of examples of various other nationalities that do not have a good record of cooperating with police.

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whoops...you're right about Wpg...forgot about them...

Im surprised Turkey has the highest homicide rates!

Sources confirmed one of the victims was Sanjeev Mann, a member of the FOB Killers gang and investigators said they believe the shooting deaths are part of the ongoing war between that gang and the Fresh Off the Boat (FOB) gang.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...tml?id=1141521

LOL @ FOB gang.

Ironic that the FOB Killers' members got killed by normal FOBs. Maybe the FOBs should be called FOB Killers Killers or FOB Killers Squared :thumbsup: