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EmOne · 01-12-2009, 03:23 PM

My mom's 04 Camry was due for an oil change in December, I brought it in for service on December 30, 08. The service after taxes cost me $22x.xx dollars.

The following week, I filled up the tank with 40L and few days later when the low gasoline light came on, I got exactly 324KM. So I was wondering, i should be getting better MPG since I done an oil change and the whole car was inspected with no other problems.

So today, i stopped at a red light and suddenly my idle dropped and bounced up and down. When the light turned green, I gased and the car started to bog.

When i go home, i parked it and check the oil level, and to my surprise, the oil on the dip stick was ALMOST HALF WAY! LIke half of the dip stick there were oil on it.

Anyways, I came back 4-5 hrs later when the engine cooled to check again. And yes, oil is still up to half way of the dip stick.

I called the dealership and explained my problem and what i observed. The lady on the phone told me that the "technician" WOULD never OVERFILL the engine with oil. I am going in tomorrow and let the "technician" have a look at it.

In the meanwhile i thought i share my experience with you guys, anyone ever got into a situation like this??

What should I expect when i go in there tomorrow.

thanks for reading

kumbo1 · 01-12-2009, 03:48 PM

If that was the case, I am suprised you didn't blow a gasket or 2....

Truenosan · 01-12-2009, 04:02 PM

oil change probably wasn't even done by a technician, but by the shop bitch.

Volvo-brickster · 01-12-2009, 04:12 PM

if they over filled, the oil would then start to get "whipped" within the crankcase and you can sometimes see bubbles

were there any ?

smoothie. · 01-12-2009, 04:14 PM

check it again when its cold

edit: overnight cold

k20a · 01-12-2009, 04:15 PM

Did you do the proper procedure and wipe the dipstick then check again?

01-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but is the car on level ground?

Also, if they did over fill it, it's going to be really hard to prove that they did it. They could possibly say that someone else added oil etc.

OffroadZuki · 01-12-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothie.

check it again when its cold

edit: overnight cold

The 4-5 hours the OP allowed is plenty of time...especially in January.

slickk6o4 · 01-12-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by k20a

Did you do the proper procedure and wipe the dipstick then check again?

what he said! i dont think a tech at the dealership would overfill the engine, if so you would be seeing lots of smoke when ur drivin

EmOne · 01-12-2009, 04:27 PM

yes the car was on a leveled ground

yes i wiped the stick when i checked it twice

and yes, i see quite a bit of white smoke coming from the exhaust, i thought that maybe was because of the cold weather.

DC5-S · 01-12-2009, 04:29 PM

white smoke is not oil.. blue smoke is oil

Timpo · 01-12-2009, 04:35 PM

I don't know about the dealerships, but at Canadian Tire, the actual work won't be done by jorneyman technician.

It will be done by either apprentice or support staff and the actual jorneyman will sign it saying that he did it. It happens everywhere.

nipples · 01-12-2009, 04:48 PM

support staff as in...the cashier??

hamhead · 01-12-2009, 04:52 PM

why didnt u just change the oil yourself? costs $50 and 1 hr max

GordonTse · 01-12-2009, 05:42 PM

holy, $22x for an oil change? or a service like a b1 from honda? a bigger service is not done by apprentices most of the time.. flat rate guys need to get paid, so they give those 1+ hour jobs to techs.. well at my work anyways.. (nissan+honda)

Leopold Stotch · 01-12-2009, 05:48 PM

IF it was that overfill the engine would drive like utter shit and it should smoke like crazy.
Newer engines usually can tell if there's too much oil and start burning it off before it breaks anything.

hopefully you did it right, but was it on level ground and the engine off?

also make sure to wipe it clean and check both sides of the dipstick

!SG · 01-12-2009, 06:16 PM

maybe they forgot to drain the oil.

the 04 camry should have the oil filter high up if i remember right. so they can technically change the filter without much spillage, then they would drain the oil from underneath.

HardBoiler · 01-12-2009, 06:17 PM

Maybe they forgot to drain the old oil before refilling with new? :S

spydermanx · 01-12-2009, 07:34 PM

maybe incorrect amount of oil. amount for V6 dumped into a I4...? That can easily be a 2L difference. But if the lube / tech didn't check the oil after a fill, then you have to wonder what else they didn't bother to check.

yoall · 01-12-2009, 07:35 PM

I sure hope your valve seals are still good.

Alatar · 01-12-2009, 07:38 PM

Correction, white smoke _can_ be oil. Try doing a wet compression test some time and watch the white smoke after you put the plugs back in and run it.

kknater · 01-12-2009, 07:43 PM

I think you put the emphasis on the wrong words.

would NEVER overfill

instead of

WOULD never OVERFILL

just sayin. Good luck

EmOne · 01-12-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by yoall

I sure hope your valve seals are still good.

enlighten me please

EmOne · 01-12-2009, 08:21 PM

just got off work and I checked the oil again after its been parked for 5 hours outside on a flat parking lot. Same thing, big puff of white smoke coming out the back when I hit the gas.
They probably forgot to drain the old oil.

Leopold Stotch · 01-12-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EmOne

enlighten me please

Your engine, and the seals (the thing that holds the major components of the engine together) is made to withstand an optimal pressure from the oil and air in the engine. Now if you have more oil in there than otherwise specified then you'll have issues with too much pressure which can cause the seals to blow, along with other issues like oil going into places where it's not supposed to, and etc.