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pwdiero 01-16-2009 07:38 PM

CBC Marketplace report on CARFAX accuracy
 
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ce-carfax.html

EuroTRASH 01-17-2009 12:04 AM

carfax is a waste of time

my dad was checking out some cars, so he bought a one week membership. just for the hell of it, ran the VIN of his own van which he had owned since new, and had been in a massive accident 4 years prior. Van had been repaired, all through ICBC yet it had a squeaky clean history. Plus side, is that Carfax had no problem refunding :P

wacko604 01-17-2009 06:38 PM

carfax is more for cars that were registered in the states

[jsx] sky 01-17-2009 06:53 PM

They said that their competitors had more accurate information but did not mention what the company really was.

marc0lishuz 01-17-2009 08:45 PM

LOL Fucking CarFax Rep had a dumb smile on his face the whole interview and kept blaming insurance agencies for not reporting claims to CarFax. What an idiot.

!SG 01-17-2009 08:46 PM

i guess u cant rely on just 1 tool when u plan on buying a car from the states.

Speed2K 01-18-2009 01:33 AM

That was a good article, very informative!

Speed2K 01-18-2009 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroTRASH (Post 6229028)
carfax is a waste of time

my dad was checking out some cars, so he bought a one week membership. just for the hell of it, ran the VIN of his own van which he had owned since new, and had been in a massive accident 4 years prior. Van had been repaired, all through ICBC yet it had a squeaky clean history. Plus side, is that Carfax had no problem refunding :P

I never knew it had Canadian info, although the Martketplace report indicates that it does/should have it. This is good information though, I'll need to let everyone know to not put so much trust in Carfax.

What a shady dealer though. I hope the guy gets everything resolved (Xterra).

!SG 01-18-2009 10:31 AM

here is the thing, if the dealership uses carfax themselves to check if the car is ok thru auction. then they themselves might not know of the damages.

if they are one of those dealerships that buys wrecks, fixes them up, then uses carfax as a selling tool, then ok, ur fucked, and they are fuckers for doing it.

1983 Z28 01-18-2009 11:48 AM

You're not distinctly not fucked. Anyone selling a car with over $3,000 worth of damage done to it is obliged to inform the buyers of the damage. Using a clean carfax does not absolve them of this.

And the CBC could not mention the competitors name because that would qualify as an endorsement, which has legal ramifications. But, for those that are wondering; they used Carproof.

If you're looking at buying a car; it's money WELL spent. I have histories on ALL my vehicles, and it's complete from the day of purchase. An ex GF of mine was having trouble with a shitbox Jetta she bought for 10K... the dealer said it'd never had any significant damage, but not a single body panel was properly aligned and the interior was falling apart. Carproofed it; and it had four accidents totaling over 12K. $60 bucks is nothing for the piece of mind.

b4000 01-18-2009 12:00 PM

Carproof is the best one.

Speed2K 01-18-2009 05:57 PM

I wonder why Carproof is not as well known, or as popular?

JSALES 01-18-2009 06:14 PM

i watched that carfax thing on tv, some good info

HSK 01-18-2009 09:28 PM

This shouldn't be too surprising for most people.

DJ Milk 01-18-2009 09:53 PM

Yeah Carproof is the competitors they were making references to. I recognized the menus when there were scrolling though on the laptop in the van. Carproof is $60 a report which is money well spent I think. But it gets expensive when you're Carproofing many cars :cry:

68style 01-18-2009 11:31 PM

It's useless even getting info out of the U.S. on cars... so many states wash titles (like Texas for one) when they are registered state-to-state... every car I ever brought up said it was accident free and then when you get underneath and start looking at things you can see where there had been damage before or panels had been painted etc.... not to mention if they don't claim it -> it's not on record.

I even had one of my cars the guy gave me receipts for vadalism damage (someone baseball batted the hood, windshield, front end) he had fixed through his insurance and it didn't show up on carfax despite being $2000+

Buyer beware :)

death_blossom 01-19-2009 02:21 AM

is carproof good for USA cars as well? their site looks to be focused primarily on Canadian and local cars.

68style 01-19-2009 07:13 AM

Sorry I meant another service got it mixed up with carproof, my bad...

I think the only thing Carfax is good for is verifying mileage (to a certain extent) and also number of owners or where the vehicle has spent its life...

I remember one time I was looking at a car, the dealer said it was 1 owner, I check the Carfax on it and it had like 7 different owners, had been in 5 states and at one point when someone in the military owned it, it got exported to Germany for 2 years and then back to the U.S. again!! It was hilarious... 1 owner my ass :p

valent|n0 01-19-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [jsx] sky (Post 6230020)
They said that their competitors had more accurate information but did not mention what the company really was.

I have used www.autocheck.com
and another one will be ICBC accident claim report I guess

thumper 01-19-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6232504)
I think the only thing Carfax is good for is verifying mileage (to a certain extent) and also number of owners or where the vehicle has spent its life...

i don't know if it was just me, but i had problems with the carfax mileage reports, they seem to rely on aircare and dealer service history for mileage, and if either or neither had been done, there is nothing to report. i generally ended up with registration or insurance renewal dates and not much else.

bossxx 01-19-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6232218)
It's useless even getting info out of the U.S. on cars... so many states wash titles (like Texas for one) when they are registered state-to-state... every car I ever brought up said it was accident free and then when you get underneath and start looking at things you can see where there had been damage before or panels had been painted etc....

How can they do this? I am always looking at vehicles in the US..

68style 01-19-2009 04:13 PM

^
I read a long and convoluted bunch of stuff a few years back, but basically one way around accident or even rebuilt titling in the U.S. is through Texas, you can register the car there, then register it back in your home state again and it wipes the title because Texas doesn't require any declarations about the vehicle before issuing a clean title...... I wish I knew the exact ins and outs, there are other states as well, I believe Florida was another "wipe it clean" state.

bossxx 01-19-2009 04:33 PM

Thats crazy.. so technically.. every vehicle registered in the state of Texas could be accident free?

Why doesn't the US use a universal system?

SkunkWorks 01-19-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6232504)
I think the only thing Carfax is good for is verifying mileage (to a certain extent) and also number of owners or where the vehicle has spent its life..

Carfax's mileage verification is complete garbage. Car I was looking at had its mileage checked... Back in 2003.

68style 01-20-2009 06:48 AM

^
You know, there is a reason I put (to a certain extent) after that comment..........


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