REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Police Forum

Police Forum Police Head Mod: Skidmark
Questions & info about the Motor Vehicle Act. Mature discussion only.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-23-2009, 04:55 PM   #1
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
silva95teg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Coquitlam BC
Posts: 1,263
Thanked 91 Times in 47 Posts
Pedestrian Controlled Traffic Light

I read on here before under the thread "Rules that people dont know about" That at a pedestrian controlled traffic light that is not at an intersection, you must come to a complete stop and once the pedestrian passes and it is safe to do so you may proceed while the light is still red.

Is there a section in the MVA that pertains to this situation? I looked through it but was not able to locate it if there is. 50 percent of the people i talk to think it is illegal and the others think it is legal but still don't do it.

If one of the officers on the site has any knowledge of this section in the MVA, i would love to know it.
Advertisement

Last edited by silva95teg; 01-23-2009 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Added additional info
silva95teg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 06:12 PM   #2
【=◈‿◈=】
 
Vansterdam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Above&Beyond
Posts: 22,500
Thanked 8,882 Times in 2,012 Posts
dont think your ever suppose to run a red dude. why not just wait for the green after the pedestrian goes through.... are you THAT impatient?
__________________
do_ob

Vansterdam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 07:53 PM   #3
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
^^Erm, you didn't read that thread very closely, as an officer DID comment on it...

http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...8&postcount=23

Quote:
Originally Posted by skidmark
If the red light is not at an intersection, you must stop, yield as necessary and then you can continue before it turns green.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 08:05 PM   #4
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
silva95teg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Coquitlam BC
Posts: 1,263
Thanked 91 Times in 47 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vansterdam View Post
dont think your ever suppose to run a red dude. why not just wait for the green after the pedestrian goes through.... are you THAT impatient?
I do wait for them just because people think you are breaking the law when you go through them. Thats not my question. And i know an officer has posted about it, i want to know if there is something i can show someone else in the MVA.
silva95teg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 08:53 PM   #5
The "You'd Know" Moderator
 
impactX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Home
Posts: 20,885
Thanked 214 Times in 118 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by skidmark
If the red light is not at an intersection, you must stop, yield as necessary and then you can continue before it turns green.
The "yield as necessary" also means that the peds have landed their feet on the other side of the crosswalk on a one-way street or landed their feet on the median that separates a two-way street.

My only advice is that... even though you can potential save time by doing this, I wouldn't be surprised if you get pulled over for it because not all officers know about this section of MVA and you will end up wasting more time trying to explain.
__________________
08 CBR600RR
03 IS300

Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
impactX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 09:10 PM   #6
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
silva95teg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Coquitlam BC
Posts: 1,263
Thanked 91 Times in 47 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by impactX View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if you get pulled over for it because not all officers know about this section of MVA and you will end up wasting more time trying to explain.
Do you know the section ?
silva95teg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2009, 02:23 PM   #7
Retired Traffic Cop
 
skidmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nanoose Bay, BC
Posts: 9,023
Thanked 115 Times in 66 Posts
129 (5) When a red light is exhibited at a place other than an intersection by a traffic control signal,
(a) the driver of a vehicle approaching the signal must cause it to stop before entering the nearest marked crosswalk in the vicinity of the signal, or if there is no marked crosswalk, before reaching the signal, and
(b) a pedestrian may proceed across the roadway.

Contrast this to:

129 (1) Subject to subsection (2), when a red light alone is exhibited at an intersection by a traffic control signal, the driver of a vehicle approaching the intersection and facing the red light must cause it to stop before entering the marked crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if there is no marked crosswalk, before entering the intersection, and subject to the provisions of subsection (3), must not cause the vehicle to proceed until a traffic control signal instructs the driver that he or she is permitted to do so.
__________________
Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??

Learn more at DriveSmartBC
skidmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2009, 02:25 PM   #8
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
^Hmm, but there's nothing there that states the driver may proceed.

Then again, there's nothing there that says the driver can go even after the light turns green...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2009, 03:27 PM   #9
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
silva95teg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Coquitlam BC
Posts: 1,263
Thanked 91 Times in 47 Posts
Thanks Skidmark i see what you are saying, unfortunately like Soundy said it is pretty hard to determine that you do not have to remain stopped until the light is green.
silva95teg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2009, 09:59 PM   #10
Retired Traffic Cop
 
skidmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nanoose Bay, BC
Posts: 9,023
Thanked 115 Times in 66 Posts
It doesn't tell you to remain stopped, so you don't need to. As soon as you have stopped, you have complied with what the rule requires you to do.
__________________
Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??

Learn more at DriveSmartBC
skidmark is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-24-2009, 11:36 PM   #11
Revscene.net has a homepage?!
 
silva95teg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Coquitlam BC
Posts: 1,263
Thanked 91 Times in 47 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
It doesn't tell you to remain stopped, so you don't need to. As soon as you have stopped, you have complied with what the rule requires you to do.
Thanks Skidmark, i understand what it means, i still wouldn't like to have to argue that point with an officer if i were pulled over for it though
silva95teg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 12:07 PM   #12
Retired Traffic Cop
 
skidmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nanoose Bay, BC
Posts: 9,023
Thanked 115 Times in 66 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by silva95teg View Post
Thanks Skidmark, i understand what it means, i still wouldn't like to have to argue that point with an officer if i were pulled over for it though
Yes, I know what you mean.

One story I recall on this issue was the Chief Justice of BC being interviewed on CBC radio. He was talking about traffic law and told about finding himself across the intersection from a marked VPD car as they waited for a red light. He thought "we're at a one way street, so I'll have a bit of fun with this guy and turn left on red." He made the turn and sure enough, on came the emergency lights and the VPD officer pulled him over. "Officer, don't you know it's legal to turn left onto a one way street on a red light in BC?" "Yes" said the officer, "but the sign says not between 8:00 am and 5:00 pm!"
__________________
Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??

Learn more at DriveSmartBC
skidmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 01:25 PM   #13
VAC Head Rotang Mod
 
Raid3n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: GP
Posts: 10,378
Thanked 1,180 Times in 523 Posts
^hahaahah ouch.
__________________
1990 FC3S
1984 GSX-R 400
2001 CBR600F4i

My Feedback (10-0-0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fei-Ji View Post
haha i can taste the cum in my mouth
Raid3n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 10:00 PM   #14
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
OWNED!!! Baahahah
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 10:02 PM   #15
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
Soundy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,730
Thanked 12,144 Times in 3,366 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by silva95teg View Post
Thanks Skidmark, i understand what it means, i still wouldn't like to have to argue that point with an officer if i were pulled over for it though
Just keep skidmark's phone number on you, and if it ever happens, tell the cop to give him a call

"Uh... you want me to call WHO?? 'Officer SKIDMARK'?? WTF??? Ummm.... have you had anything to drink tonight, sir?"
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira View Post
Does anyone know how many to a signature?
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta View Post
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Soundy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 09:07 PM   #16
My homepage has been set to RS
 
girlcrazy_420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 2,163
Thanked 20 Times in 7 Posts
Regarding this, would this be concidered an intersection? set of lights on iether side of the road for both directions. On the left and right of you there are no lights... just driveways for the liquor store and coopers on the other. The lights are pedestrian controlled only. Can I stop than proceed at this intersection??
__________________
LADIES!!! Tired of being alone? Going through too many batteries at bedtime? Would you like a "hand"?? Well, you're in luck!!! S.T.U.D.S IS HERE FOR YOU!!! We offer all types of services, from a basic lube, to the full service! S.T.U.D.S.
girlcrazy_420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 09:18 PM   #17
No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 819
Thanked 70 Times in 28 Posts
do i have to yield if the pedestrian light also has a 2way stop sign on each side cuz alot of times cars use the pedestrians to their advantage to make a left turn. if i am going straight, i dont need to yield to those cars that make the left turn? if collision occurs, not my fault?
simsimi1004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 09:36 PM   #18
HELP ME PLS!!!
 
johny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: here
Posts: 5,793
Thanked 146 Times in 67 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by simsimi1004 View Post
do i have to yield if the pedestrian light also has a 2way stop sign on each side cuz alot of times cars use the pedestrians to their advantage to make a left turn. if i am going straight, i dont need to yield to those cars that make the left turn? if collision occurs, not my fault?

that would be an intersection...
johny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2009, 01:57 PM   #19
I don't get it
 
E=mc˛'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 408
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
yeah that's different.
What the OP is referring to is a setup similar to Rupert Street near superstore right under the skytrain. There's a pedestrian crossing there with a traffic light. So I guess, legally, you're allowed to proceed after the pedestrian has crossed even if the light is still red.

Personally, I'd just wait for the green because a few extra seconds won't kill you and I'd rather not have people staring at me going wtf or have to explain this to a cop if I get pulled over...
E=mc˛ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2009, 05:18 PM   #20
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kel-pwn-a
Posts: 11,983
Thanked 4,970 Times in 2,174 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by girlcrazy_420 View Post
Regarding this, would this be concidered an intersection? set of lights on iether side of the road for both directions. On the left and right of you there are no lights... just driveways for the liquor store and coopers on the other. The lights are pedestrian controlled only. Can I stop than proceed at this intersection??
is this the one on Lakeshore? You can proceed at that one as soon as its clear.
__________________
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S // 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC FOR SALE // 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer View Post
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp View Post
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa View Post
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
underscore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #21
My homepage has been set to RS
 
girlcrazy_420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 2,163
Thanked 20 Times in 7 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore View Post
is this the one on Lakeshore? You can proceed at that one as soon as its clear.
The intersection in rutland. Right by asher rd. The other intersection I am talking about is on springfield behind the Mall at the old benvolin/shell station.
__________________
LADIES!!! Tired of being alone? Going through too many batteries at bedtime? Would you like a "hand"?? Well, you're in luck!!! S.T.U.D.S IS HERE FOR YOU!!! We offer all types of services, from a basic lube, to the full service! S.T.U.D.S.
girlcrazy_420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net