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Old 02-02-2009, 11:28 PM   #26
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I had an officer ask me to turn off my fogs when I was pulled over during a Roadblock inspection as well. I had my 91 Integra with yellow piaa fogs.

Do they have to be lower than your headlights? because stock fogs on DAs are the same height...
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:30 PM   #27
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I had an officer ask me to turn off my fogs when I was pulled over during a Roadblock inspection as well. I had my 91 Integra with yellow piaa fogs.

Do they have to be lower than your headlights? because stock fogs on DAs are the same height...
If they aren't stock fogs you can't have them on. A lot of aftermarket fogs will say right on it "For off road use only"
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:34 PM   #28
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oh ya.. i guess i didnt account for that. They were in the stock headlight housing.. just used piaa bulbs.
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Police officers should seriously get reprimanded for giving out bogus tickets.
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I wonder what makes them think it's illegal, don't they get trained on what is, and what is not illegal? Are they confusing highbeams with fog lights? Seems weird that a lot of cops think something is illegal when it's not.
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Our 2007 Ford focus has Daytime Runnning lamps operated in the low beam circuit at 60 % brillance the main lamps switch allow's on the first position the operation of tail lamps park lamps and the fog lamps can be switched on alone to meet BC M.V. regulations either fog lamps in adverse weather and low beam headlamps at slower speeds . works good until you start the engine then the D.R.L.starts automatically and cannot be switched off, even if the driver wants to try and peer under the fog without the main lamps that are mounted higher on the vehicle
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Our 2007 Ford focus has Daytime Runnning lamps operated in the low beam circuit at 60 % brillance the main lamps switch allow's on the first position the operation of tail lamps park lamps and the fog lamps can be switched on alone to meet BC M.V. regulations either fog lamps in adverse weather and low beam headlamps at slower speeds . works good until you start the engine then the D.R.L.starts automatically and cannot be switched off, even if the driver wants to try and peer under the fog without the main lamps that are mounted higher on the vehicle
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why would fog lamps be used when there is no fog on the highway system, when the weather is clear having any additional light displayed other than the headlamps, is more of a look at me and lowering the respect level for others who share the roadway, these comments are from a 59 year accident free vehicle operator, we need and will appreciate the use of fog lamps when the weather is really foggy or rainy and the seeing distance is seriously lowered to the point that road lighting from a lower level source is needed to let the driver better peer under the fog have a really nice day
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as a licensed B.C mechanic and Vehicle inspector when a vehicle is referred for mechanical inspection from a road side citation the first thing,s to be inspected are the mounting height, alignment, Bulb or lamps design, and the wiring hookup,can the fog lamps be operated with the tail lamps and park lamps, is there a facility so the fog lamps can be operated by a separate switch and not hard wired to low or high beam, after checking the M.V. inspection manual requirement the vehicle is given back to the owner operator, and it is their responsibility to meet road and weather conditions, and accident prevention regulations have a great day

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Dude..use periods. Please.
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Dude..use periods. Please.
Dudes been driving for 59 years. That makes him possibly older and more senile than MG1. He's probably never heard of periods.
He also thinks his DRL runs at 60% on the low beam on his Focus.
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The factory "Fog" lights on my Mazda will only turn on when the low beam headlamps are on. It is impossible to turn off the headlamps while keeping the "fog" lights illuminated.

Which kind of defeats the purpose of fog lamps, doesn't it?
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Which kind of defeats the purpose of fog lamps,
doesn't it?
It does. My car is wired up the same way.

While the MVA permits the use of fog lamps in place of low-beam headlights in adverse weather conditions, not all cars are wired up to operate this way.
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He also thinks his DRL runs at 60% on the low beam on his Focus.
I'm not sure how it works on whatever year/model of Focus he has, but that's how they work on my car too.
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I'm not sure how it works on whatever year/model of Focus he has, but that's how they work on my car too.
What year and model car do you have?

Most cars use high beam at the lower percent.
9003, 9004, 9006 bulbs.
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Having D.R.L. on High Beam is not the best operation because the beam is higher focused
and the low beam is a lower focused beam and offers better respect for the eyes of the oncoming motorist.s .
Our Fleetwood R.V. has the same system and the D.R.L. operates in the low beam at 60% lower brillance these kits have been available starting in the 1980 era. we installed aprox 6000 across B.C. in Highways fleet operations and that standard eventuallly became the National standard supplied in many vehicles across canada and the U.S.A.
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What year and model car do you have?

Most cars use high beam at the lower percent.
9003, 9004, 9006 bulbs.
2005 Subaru. Uses H7 bulbs for the low beams, operated at reduced power for the DRLs.
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Mazda 3's use the high beam bulb, at lower output through Pulse Width Modulation
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I'm not sure how it works on whatever year/model of Focus he has, but that's how they work on my car too.
from the B.C Regulations.



4.11 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 fog lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle below the headlamps, that are capable of displaying only white or amber light.

(2) Each fog lamp must be
(a) mounted not more than 30 cm below the headlamps, and
(b) adjusted and aimed so that, at a distance of 8 m from the lamp, the centre of the beam is at least 10 cm below the height of the fog lamp.
(3) The fog lamp wiring and switch must permit simultaneous operation of the parking lamps, tail lamps, licence plate lamp and, if required, clearance lamps.
(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvantageous.
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what the hell? might as well give everyone in the city a ticket because that's how fogs are wired from the factory....
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Things are getting a bit complicated with all these regulations being posted, let'ssimplify it.. if your car comes from the factory like that it obviously meets Canadian standards for legal road use, so it's fully legal, it's just that simple no matter what interpretation a certain cop may have.
I remember when the Lexus IS first came out, cops were giving out tickets like hotcakes for the clear style taillights since that was one of the first if not the first car to come with clear tails OEM.

You're gonna have to waste your day going to dispute it in court, you should win it without any problems....
UNLESS the officer shows up and the judge feels almost required to side with the officer in order not to make him look stupid in front of all the people in the courtroom.... that's exactly what happened to me, it's not fun
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I remember when the Lexus IS first came out, cops were giving out tickets like hotcakes for the clear style taillights since that was one of the first if not the first car to come with clear tails OEM.
Same thing in 2000 and 2001 with the S2000 and their projector headlights. Some cops were handing out tickets to drivers for having "blue" headlights.
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the B.C. and canadian Vehicle inspection programme and the Motor Vehicle act regulations were set in place to provide safety standards that were overlooked at the factory and in many cases create recalls for units that were fitted for the purposes of increased sales and did not meet the safety of others who use the road system. and People who drive around with fog lamps lit on clear days or clear nights, may find that their vehicle will have to pass motor vehicle inspection rules, and have to correct correct the fault and try to get their money back from the builder,
we have experienced vehicles being sent for addition of tail lamps and park lamps operation with fog lamps that were not fitted properly and caught by the police in road side inspection and corrected throught the inspection facility have a nice week end
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In terms of fog lights, I really really hate those people who leave their rear foglight on all the time. It is very annoying cause it's quite bright and you keep thinking they have their brake light on.
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Dudes been driving for 59 years. That makes him possibly older and more senile than MG1. He's probably never heard of periods.
He also thinks his DRL runs at 60% on the low beam on his Focus.
i know 2008 toyota corolla's DRLs work the same way.

thats why when people hid kits on to them, they also need to kill drls. otherwise, the ballasts wont fire.
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