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02-03-2009, 04:30 PM
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|  GM might pull out of Canada due to poor sales
CAW says it's anxious to talk with GM amid fears company may pull out of Canada
By Michael Oliveira, The Canadian Press
TORONTO - The Canadian Auto Workers union is now concerned that General Motors could pull out of Canada entirely, affecting about 12,000 workers and hundreds of thousands of indirect jobs, a union leader said Tuesday.
As a meeting of the company's board of directors entered its second day, and reports indicated GM's Canadian sales dropped by 46.6 per cent in January, CAW Local 222 president Chris Buckley said he urgently wanted to set up a meeting to discuss how to save jobs.
While Buckley has been hard-nosed and talked tough in seeking demands from the Detroit Three automakers, his tone turned considerably more conciliatory as he spoke of the union's need "to be part of the solution."
"As a union it makes no sense to ignore this crisis," he said in an interview. "We understand this is a terrible situation, and if we choose to ignore this crisis, there's a possibility General Motors would pull out of Canada."
Buckley also urged the federal government to supply GM with guaranteed loans, as long as they're conditional on the company maintaining operations in Canada.
"We're not about to give them a reason to pull out of Canada," he said.
The union has reached out to the company and is now awaiting a call back, which he expects will follow the company's meeting in Detroit.
"I would suspect after their board meeting they'll have their restructuring plan put in place, and hopefully Canada's a part of it," Buckley said, adding the union hasn't "closed the door on anything just yet" in terms of cost-cutting measures it is willing to concede.
Federal Industry Minister Tony Clement has said automakers should be reducing labour costs to make the Canadian industry more competitive.
He has also said he's disappointed with the progress of discussions between Ottawa, Ontario and the automakers to hand over a promised $4 billion in funding.
The companies' Canadian subsidiaries have until Feb. 20 to provide the governments with a restructuring plan.
Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said Tuesday it's somewhat encouraging the funding hasn't been snapped up, and he hopes GM isn't going anywhere.
"This is good news," he said. "They're telling us that they don't need the money as quickly as they had originally thought, but they will be looking to us for support when it comes to pursuing transformation right here in Ontario.
"If you consider the productivity of their plants in Ontario and the quality awards that we have won and the recent investments that they have made, I think it's in the long-term interest of GM to continue to avail themselves of our labour force and our government's commitment to the future of this industry here."
Calls to General Motors Canada seeking comment were not returned Tuesday.
Canadian auto sales figures for January show Chrysler's numbers skidded 33.7 per cent compared with the same month last year, and Ford was down 14.2 per cent.
Honda sales sagged 37.1 per cent, Nissan Canada's sales decreased 16 per cent, and Toyota Canada was off 2.7 per cent
On the positive side, South Korean automaker Hyundai posted an 18.9 per cent sales gain, while Japan's low-volume Mitsubishi was up 9.1 per cent, and Suzuki rose 4.3 per cent.
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02-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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this is exactly why canada shouldn't have given the auto industy loans. I figured they'd be out of here soon. why would a US company give jobs to Canada instead of americans in tough times. the Canadian plants would be closing before the US ones do.
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02-03-2009, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by johny  this is exactly why canada shouldn't have given the auto industy loans. I figured they'd be out of here soon. why would a US company give jobs to Canada instead of americans in tough times. the Canadian plants would be closing before the US ones do. |  billions $ of Canadian tax wasted on GM
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02-03-2009, 05:09 PM
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I actully don't think the companys ever took the loans. even though they were aproved by the Govt.
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02-03-2009, 05:11 PM
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Last I heard, GM Canada actually declined the loans the government offered them.
I believe it is inevitable anyways.
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02-03-2009, 06:00 PM
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02-03-2009, 06:04 PM
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02-03-2009, 06:18 PM
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So now the union is willing to talk and negotiate....i find it funny.
The union played a huge role in the demise of GM and their $$$$$ is now going to haunt them for it.
edit: is there a reason why the word "g r e e d" gets censored?
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02-03-2009, 06:32 PM
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if GM pulls out of canada, it doesnt help anyone...more or less..it hurts the country..those unemployment rates...omg
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02-03-2009, 07:02 PM
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GM might pulls out of manufacturing cars in Canada..
BTW their only big operation left is in Oshawa anyways (they can't move that right now since Camaro is ramping up)..
With Cdn at 0.75US, there got to be more behind GM's move.
Scaremongering much CAW?
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02-03-2009, 07:06 PM
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Timpo's title is a bit misleading. Nowhere in the article is it intimated that GM itself is considering a move out of Canada. It's just CAW saying OhNOooooZZZ!
There will always be the major parts industries anyways (such as Magna).
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02-03-2009, 08:39 PM
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Hope they go
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02-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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hah. when GM wanted to renegotiate the contract with the CAW and UAW to ensure staying in business, neither union would budge their stance. they would rather lose their job than take a pay cut. now it looks like they might lose their job and they are crying.
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How could you check the sales-figure for the Canadian market?
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02-03-2009, 10:23 PM
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02-03-2009, 11:01 PM
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If GM pulls out that means no Camaro. Ouch x 100000.
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02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri If GM pulls out that means no Camaro. Ouch x 100000. | How is that an ouch? I mean, no one here is going to buy a fucking POS GM vehicle anyway.
Except me.. cuz I have family who works for GM, I support my family not your offshore ones.
(Go ahead, call me racist... but I just hate everyone equally...)
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damn. does that mean, eventually every domestic car you see on the road will be a Ford?
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02-04-2009, 06:31 PM
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*cough* Dodge/chrysler?
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02-04-2009, 06:46 PM
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02-04-2009, 07:28 PM
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The Camaro is a great car with great performance. What other car can you get with a V6 that pumps out 300hp for under $30,000 and looks as good as the new Camaro? Even import lovers have to admit it's a great bang for the buck car which looks stunning.
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02-04-2009, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jlenko How is that an ouch? I mean, no one here is going to buy a fucking POS GM vehicle anyway.
Except me.. cuz I have family who works for GM, I support my family not your offshore ones.
(Go ahead, call me racist... but I just hate everyone equally...) | you are a retard. most of the imports are made in north america
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02-04-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri The Camaro is a great car with great performance. What other car can you get with a V6 that pumps out 300hp for under $30,000 and looks as good as the new Camaro? Even import lovers have to admit it's a great bang for the buck car which looks stunning. | ditto! its gorgeous to look at, it the very definition of "american muscle"
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02-04-2009, 11:03 PM
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Has anyone seen how many cars are sitting on the Dueck on Marine lot... let alone they opened another one in richmond...
I wonder how many cars they sell a month...
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02-04-2009, 11:13 PM
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Yeah, I always pass by the Dueck dealership on Marine and wonder how in the hell the owner can keep that dealership open.
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