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Old 02-04-2009, 09:02 AM   #26
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20 years is a really long time to be in jail so I'm sure they care...they just don't think they're going to get caught! same thing would happen with mandatory life sentences.

i wonder if the range was supercharged
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You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.
Yes they have family too, and guess what, do you think that family right now is happy in how these people end their life? Are they thankful that he did what he did, and that he should now rest in peace? My guess, probably not. I would think that the guys kids (if he had any) would be devastated, angry, that their father chose the life he did. They would probably rather have a poor father / husband / son, then a dead one. This dead man will have caused so much grief, anguish, pain, on so many people. So no. Don't rest in peace. Rest knowing you caused so much hurt.
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20 years is a really long time to be in jail so I'm sure they care...they just don't think they're going to get caught! same thing would happen with mandatory life sentences.

i wonder if the range was supercharged
I'm sure to low lvl thugs the thought of 20 years or shorter sounds alot better than life with no chance of ever getting out

It was a full sized range btw not a sport
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wow heard about this today, i live 5 mins away from guildford mall. O well one less gangster
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I'm sure to low lvl thugs the thought of 20 years or shorter sounds alot better than life with no chance of ever getting out

It was a full sized range btw not a sport
good point

about the range the full size range also has an supercharged and non supercharged version. the full size is going to be redesigned next year should be a nice truck. The sport will be keeping the same shape until at least 2012
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I have no problem with these guys killing each other but isn't it weird you almost never ever hear of anyone getting arrested? If they could arrest and convict the shooters it would be such a win win for the general public.
Are you sure the shooter is actually the people that wants to kill those people? What's the point of catching the peons and letting them take all the blame for their bosses?
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wow heard about this today, i live 5 mins away from guildford mall. O well one less gangster
one less gangster ---> 2 more created
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good point

about the range the full size range also has an supercharged and non supercharged version. the full size is going to be redesigned next year should be a nice truck. The sport will be keeping the same shape until at least 2012
Oh really must be pretty rare don't think I've seen the sc'ed full sized one, or at least never noticed
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Glamorous?

I understand a lot of people hate on drug dealers and gangsters because of how they are portrayed by the media.. I understand the fear this puts in people because there have been innocent people who do get caught in the crossfire and die needlessly.. Everyone has family, friends and people who care about them.. Gangsters are people too, just they have chosen a lifestyle that the general public deems as immoral or none beneficial to society.. a majority of these guys are sucked in by $$$$$.. but some of these guys are just looking for a better life, trapped in their own existence and will jump on any opportunities they can get. Most of them just need that stepping stone to move on to better things... Most people don't understand that..

I came up through poverty and didn't have much.. i can understand when you're young, seeing one or two thousand dollars can make you drool...My family is honest and hard working and when they immigrated here they didn't have much.. growing up in a poor environment you meet a variety of people...especially the shady kind.. what I'm saying is some of my close life long friends do live this lifestyle.. A lot of people always asks them why don't you go out and get a real job? They always say.. "work is work.. regardless of how you look at it.. You work hard at whatever you choose.. If you succeed.. no one can tell you any different.." ..People say, o i came from a poor family and i didn't turn into a thug.. well good for you.. That's admirable you stayed on the right path.. But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further..

There are the smart G's who know when not to cross the line.. But then there are always those truly evil people who will do anything to get the dough..

Regardless of what everyone here thinks.. I will always respect the "game".. because it takes a big set of balls to step in.. and an even bigger set of balls to get out..
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Lol not only do I say no "rip" I say fuck em gee wizz they have families, well maybe if they actually gave 2 fucks about their families they wouldn't have taken up jobs dropping rocks, everyone of these people are in it for quick money and trying to be somebody, this guy who got shot is 21 and was renting a penthouse and driving a 100,000 range, your telling me the same would have happened to him working construction or flipping burgers?

If you play with fire your gonna get burned and anyone who sympathizes with these people I'm sure you'll feel the same when your mom or dad gets killed in crossfire and buddy who just killed a couple people gets out in 20 years and couldn't care less about you or your family

In van it seems like murder is pretty easy to get away with IMO the only way to at least put a thought into these ppls minds would be mandatory life with no parole.
couldnt have said it better myself these guys know the risks going into this "buisness" and if they really cared about there families dont you think that they might think twice before getting into a buisness were you dont know if you are going to be alive the next day. And not only that what about there family being put at risk what if somebody decides to shoot up the house they dont care whos on the inside and your family could be dead. I could give two fuks about these drug dealers killing each other off its one less thug on the street and one less person thats gonna end up in jail were are tax dollars feed them.
something needs to be done to make these people thinmk twice about murder we need stiffer drug laws and I think any gangland slaying should be life w/out parole
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I think it's time to concede defeat with the war on drugs. Legalize everything, and tax it heavily. Take away criminals' source of income. Easier said than done, I know.
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couldnt have said it better myself these guys know the risks going into this "buisness" and if they really cared about there families dont you think that they might think twice before getting into a buisness were you dont know if you are going to be alive the next day. And not only that what about there family being put at risk what if somebody decides to shoot up the house they dont care whos on the inside and your family could be dead. I could give two fuks about these drug dealers killing each other off its one less thug on the street and one less person thats gonna end up in jail were are tax dollars feed them.
something needs to be done to make these people thinmk twice about murder we need stiffer drug laws and I think any gangland slaying should be life w/out parole
First you say that there's one less person in jail to pay tax dollars for and then you say there should be life w/out parole?

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There's a saying in Chinese that applies to these guys....DYYYY SAYYYY....."deserved to die".
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meehh...

Glamorous?

I understand a lot of people hate on drug dealers and gangsters because of how they are portrayed by the media.. I understand the fear this puts in people because there have been innocent people who do get caught in the crossfire and die needlessly.. Everyone has family, friends and people who care about them.. Gangsters are people too, just they have chosen a lifestyle that the general public deems as immoral or none beneficial to society.. a majority of these guys are sucked in by $$$$$.. but some of these guys are just looking for a better life, trapped in their own existence and will jump on any opportunities they can get. Most of them just need that stepping stone to move on to better things... Most people don't understand that..

I came up through poverty and didn't have much.. i can understand when you're young, seeing one or two thousand dollars can make you drool...My family is honest and hard working and when they immigrated here they didn't have much.. growing up in a poor environment you meet a variety of people...especially the shady kind.. what I'm saying is some of my close life long friends do live this lifestyle.. A lot of people always asks them why don't you go out and get a real job? They always say.. "work is work.. regardless of how you look at it.. You work hard at whatever you choose.. If you succeed.. no one can tell you any different.." ..People say, o i came from a poor family and i didn't turn into a thug.. well good for you.. That's admirable you stayed on the right path.. But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further..

There are the smart G's who know when not to cross the line.. But then there are always those truly evil people who will do anything to get the dough..

Regardless of what everyone here thinks.. I will always respect the "game".. because it takes a big set of balls to step in.. and an even bigger set of balls to get out..
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First you say that there's one less person in jail to pay tax dollars for and then you say there should be life w/out parole?

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i think he means if thuggy 1 kills thuggy2 gangland style, thuggy1 gets to live but in life without parole.
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the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks
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the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks
very well thought out post bro.
you are correct governments are the biggest gangs out there

"governments are corrupt not to be trusted,
democracy's wheels are rusted, or never were properly oiled
mass murder, not the drug game, its probably oil"
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thanks tall-tony

did you know? it mainly started with the british government
they are one of the originators of business 'fronts'
a good example would be the east india tea company
its mind blowing how much opium they trafficked in their day
they invaded india, china, australia, canada, etc etc
and killed millions of people in their wake
a famous quote by the british during that time was "currency is the new power"
back in the day india was the main supplier of opium followed by china
hence the reason why hong kong was under british rule till 1997
(most people dont know this for some reason)
(also notice how prosperous hong kong is)

the war in afghanistan was mainly over control of heroin production
this was aired on national tv as well as during an interview on cnn
did you know that they produced 40% of the worlds heroin supply
until the taliban forces invaded which dropped the production to 10%
thats when british, american, and canadian forces were sent to fight
(there are much more details on this which i wont go into)
today afghanistan is producing 90% of the worlds heroin supply

most gangsters on the streets are simply shaped into what they are today
we all know what drugs do to people and what they will do for it
everyone suffers and a lot of them die early
both the junkies as well as the traffickers
because of what the governments and corporations did
all in short "its all about the benjamins baby"
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shit, crime rate was going down too..
wit this recession its def gna increase =(
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not sure who to believe... the police or the parent.

next thing i'll hear is a statement from the bacon brothers' parents making claims that their children are perfect angels and it's been all a misunderstanding
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tell us something we don't know man. gangs or whatever, are just groups of people. this world is made of gangs, we choose to live under the canadian "gang". every gang has ideologies, but all gangs have one thing in common, they don't let people fuck around on their turf and they try to extort one another, and usually they gang up on each other too. we all know this dude. we're all gangsters, we live in a thug world.

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the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks
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very well thought out post bro.
you are correct governments are the biggest gangs out there

"governments are corrupt not to be trusted,
democracy's wheels are rusted, or never were properly oiled
mass murder, not the drug game, its probably oil"
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thanks tall-tony

did you know? it mainly started with the british government
they are one of the originators of business 'fronts'
a good example would be the east india tea company
its mind blowing how much opium they trafficked in their day
they invaded india, china, australia, canada, etc etc
and killed millions of people in their wake
a famous quote by the british during that time was "currency is the new power"
back in the day india was the main supplier of opium followed by china
hence the reason why hong kong was under british rule till 1997
(most people dont know this for some reason)
(also notice how prosperous hong kong is)

the war in afghanistan was mainly over control of heroin production
this was aired on national tv as well as during an interview on cnn
did you know that they produced 40% of the worlds heroin supply
until the taliban forces invaded which dropped the production to 10%
thats when british, american, and canadian forces were sent to fight
(there are much more details on this which i wont go into)
today afghanistan is producing 90% of the worlds heroin supply

most gangsters on the streets are simply shaped into what they are today
we all know what drugs do to people and what they will do for it
everyone suffers and a lot of them die early
both the junkies as well as the traffickers
because of what the governments and corporations did
all in short "its all about the benjamins baby"
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