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So AP did a music video with legendary Bollywood actor Salman Khan. lawrence bishnoi a gangster from India has a beef with Salman over Salman hunting/killing 2 rare animals in 98.
You just knew as soon as the RCMP got quiet about the shooter and media not saying much about it being a female which is exceedingly rare that it was going to be a transgender kid... let the social media culture war begin. That's all the morons needed, 1 example to work with after decades of deranged white dudes getting a "mental health" pass.
You just knew as soon as the RCMP got quiet about the shooter and media not saying much about it being a female which is exceedingly rare that it was going to be a transgender kid... let the social media culture war begin. That's all the morons needed, 1 example to work with after decades of deranged white dudes getting a "mental health" pass.
AI-YA.
Does it matter who did the shooting? 9 people are dead from senseless violence.
Krysta Hunt says her cousin’s daughter, Maya, is among the injured, but still living, who were airlifted to Vancouver by BC Emergency Health Services.
She tells CityNews she first heard about the incident from her grandparents but couldn’t understand the details amid the commotion.
“And then we got word that she was hit, and one of the shrapnels went in her neck and in her head, and she was airlifted from Tumbler Ridge to [BC] Children’s Hospital. And that’s where she remains now, in critical care,” said Hunt.
Does it matter who did the shooting? 9 people are dead from senseless violence.
Kind of, if it starts being a common occurrence.
The media is trying so hard to hide the guys identity. No one’s even talking about this tragedy much even if it’s one of the worst things to happen in Canadian history. The way they’re saying a “woman in a dress” and “gun person” is so fucked. Just call this guy a shooter, why are we protecting such sick people.
probably because its for the greater good. Having a tranny gunman is just going to fuel animosity towards this very niche and specific group. It'll cause more social disruption and hate.
You can understand that in my post I'm simply pointing out the social commentary war that's about to descend on us though right? There's a difference.
Yeah, I should've been clearer in my response. The troubling part is, this isn't the first time and certainly won't be the last. There really is no way to prevent these types of incidents barring some extreme and unlikely measures.
I'm already seeing the culture war starting on FB, a few people on my list are posting about this tranny shooter and that "we've put up enough with these people".
The fallout on this one will most definitely be utilized into this culture war narrative, 100%.
Wouldn't be surprised to hear Trump chiming in soon enough.
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The media is trying so hard to hide the guys identity. No one’s even talking about this tragedy much even if it’s one of the worst things to happen in Canadian history. The way they’re saying a “woman in a dress” and “gun person” is so fucked. Just call this guy a shooter, why are we protecting such sick people.
At least for the time being, I do not agree with your suggestion that the media is trying hard to hide the shooter's identity.
This is a massive tragedy by Canadian standards. From the official channels, the police is not releasing any information about the shooter. I'd say that is a combination of their standard procedure to not release information to the public until they have a good enough grasp of the facts on the ground, a matter of respect as well as standard protocol to inform family members of the victims first before making the information available to the media / the public.
And at the same time, mainstream media is also showing restrain to not add any further injury to the grieve and hurt that the victim families are already going through. Social media, being the cesspool that it is, on the other hand, isn't holding out on anything.
So just give it a little time. It is standard police practice to release the shooter / suspected criminal's name once they have obtained enough information and established facts. We are literally on the very first morning after the tragic incident. The instant dopamine news hit can wait.
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Andrea Woo
Nathan VanderKlippeInternational correspondent
Alanna SmithHealth reporter
Justine Hunter
Vancouver
Published 7 hours ago
Updated 22 minutes ago
RCMP have identified the shooter in the mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge as Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, a resident of the community.
There was a police history of dealing with mental health calls at the family home, and police had in the past seized firearms from the family home under the Criminal Code.
Deputy Commissioner Dwayne McDonald, BC RCMP Commanding Officer, told reporters Wednesday that there are nine people, included the shooter, who are dead, correcting information that was provided Tuesday.
The deceased include one teacher at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School and five students between the ages 12 and 13. As well, the shooter’s mother, 39, and 11-year-old stepbrother were found deceased in the family home.
The firearms involved in the shooting were described as a long gun and a modified hand gun. The youth had a firearms licence, which had expired. The RCMP confirmed that the youth was born male and had transitioned to female six years earlier.
Flags in Tumbler Ridge have been lowered to half-mast Wednesday to honour the victims. Tumbler Ridge Secondary School has been closed for the remainder of the week. Bright yellow police tape, orange barriers and police vehicles are blocking entry to the school grounds, where RCMP officers are stationed.
Tumbler Ridge Mayor Darryl Krakowka said counsellors are expected to arrive on Wednesday to support a community in grief.
Mr. Krakowka said he broke down when he heard the death toll.
“I have lived here for 18 years,” he said of the community, calling it a “big family.”
“I probably know every one of the victims.”
Prime Minister Mark Carney and international leaders sent messages of condolence Wednesday.
The RCMP have not identified the shooter or the victims and declined to speculate on a motive.
When Grade 7 student Quinn Campbell, 12, first heard shots on Tuesday, a teacher suggested the loud sound may have been produced by something in the school shop.
Moments later, Quinn was told to take cover. She joined roughly 16 other students in the gymnasium equipment room, where they locked the door and turned out the lights.
“I was just thinking about all of my friends, if they were okay. Thinking about my family,” Quinn told The Globe and Mail. They stayed inside for several hours, joined by a teacher.
Her father, Dennis Campbell, is president of the local minor hockey association, which includes 104 players. “Every one of them were in that school,” he said. He believes three of the dead are friends of his daughter.
“I can’t even express how we all feel about what just went on. I don’t know how we’re going to get over it right away,” he said. “It’s devastating for us.”
King Charles III issued a statement saying he and Queen Camilla were “profoundly shocked and saddened” to learn of Tuesday’s mass shooting and expressing sympathy to the families grieving unimaginable loss.
“In such a closely connected town, every child’s name will be known and every family member will be a neighbour,” he said. “We can only begin to imagine the appalling shadow that has now descended across Tumbler Ridge and our hearts go out to all those whose lives have been so shattered by this senseless act of brutal violence.”
“When children are killed, no one should remain indifferent,” he said in a statement. “Such tragedies should never happen anywhere, in any country in the world. We hope that all those who were injured will recover quickly.”
‘It’s just horrible’: Tumbler Ridge reeling after deadly school shooting
French President Emmanuel Macron said that “horror has struck a school in Tumbler Ridge, Canada,” and that France stands alongside the Canadian people.
“Our thoughts are with the families of the victims, the injured and the entire education community,” he said in a statement.
Mr. Carney thanked world leaders who had reached out in compassion.
“Parents, grandparents, sisters, brothers in Tumbler Ridge will wake up without someone they love,” the Prime Minister said to reporters on Parliament Hill Wednesday morning, as his eyes welled with tears.
“The nation mourns with you. Canada stands with you.”
Federal buildings will lower their flags to half-mast for the next week, Mr. Carney said.
Andrea Woo
Nathan VanderKlippeInternational correspondent
Alanna SmithHealth reporter
Justine Hunter
Vancouver
Published 7 hours ago
Updated 22 minutes ago
RCMP have identified the shooter in the mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge as Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, a resident of the community.
There was a police history of dealing with mental health calls at the family home, and police had in the past seized firearms from the family home under the Criminal Code.
Deputy Commissioner Dwayne McDonald, BC RCMP Commanding Officer, told reporters Wednesday that there are nine people, included the shooter, who are dead, correcting information that was provided Tuesday.
The deceased include one teacher at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School and five students between the ages 12 and 13. As well, the shooter’s mother, 39, and 11-year-old stepbrother were found deceased in the family home.
The firearms involved in the shooting were described as a long gun and a modified hand gun. The youth had a firearms licence, which had expired. The RCMP confirmed that the youth was born male and had transitioned to female six years earlier.
Flags in Tumbler Ridge have been lowered to half-mast Wednesday to honour the victims. Tumbler Ridge Secondary School has been closed for the remainder of the week. Bright yellow police tape, orange barriers and police vehicles are blocking entry to the school grounds, where RCMP officers are stationed.
Tumbler Ridge Mayor Darryl Krakowka said counsellors are expected to arrive on Wednesday to support a community in grief.
Mr. Krakowka said he broke down when he heard the death toll.
“I have lived here for 18 years,” he said of the community, calling it a “big family.”
“I probably know every one of the victims.”
Prime Minister Mark Carney and international leaders sent messages of condolence Wednesday.
The RCMP have not identified the shooter or the victims and declined to speculate on a motive.
When Grade 7 student Quinn Campbell, 12, first heard shots on Tuesday, a teacher suggested the loud sound may have been produced by something in the school shop.
Moments later, Quinn was told to take cover. She joined roughly 16 other students in the gymnasium equipment room, where they locked the door and turned out the lights.
“I was just thinking about all of my friends, if they were okay. Thinking about my family,” Quinn told The Globe and Mail. They stayed inside for several hours, joined by a teacher.
Her father, Dennis Campbell, is president of the local minor hockey association, which includes 104 players. “Every one of them were in that school,” he said. He believes three of the dead are friends of his daughter.
“I can’t even express how we all feel about what just went on. I don’t know how we’re going to get over it right away,” he said. “It’s devastating for us.”
King Charles III issued a statement saying he and Queen Camilla were “profoundly shocked and saddened” to learn of Tuesday’s mass shooting and expressing sympathy to the families grieving unimaginable loss.
“In such a closely connected town, every child’s name will be known and every family member will be a neighbour,” he said. “We can only begin to imagine the appalling shadow that has now descended across Tumbler Ridge and our hearts go out to all those whose lives have been so shattered by this senseless act of brutal violence.”
“When children are killed, no one should remain indifferent,” he said in a statement. “Such tragedies should never happen anywhere, in any country in the world. We hope that all those who were injured will recover quickly.”
‘It’s just horrible’: Tumbler Ridge reeling after deadly school shooting
French President Emmanuel Macron said that “horror has struck a school in Tumbler Ridge, Canada,” and that France stands alongside the Canadian people.
“Our thoughts are with the families of the victims, the injured and the entire education community,” he said in a statement.
Mr. Carney thanked world leaders who had reached out in compassion.
“Parents, grandparents, sisters, brothers in Tumbler Ridge will wake up without someone they love,” the Prime Minister said to reporters on Parliament Hill Wednesday morning, as his eyes welled with tears.
“The nation mourns with you. Canada stands with you.”
Federal buildings will lower their flags to half-mast for the next week, Mr. Carney said.
I must have grown in a very different world. At the third grade, we talked about stabbings, weapons, fights, shootings, and murders. (I'm not making this up.)
I must have grown in a very different world. At the third grade, we talked about stabbings, weapons, fights, shootings, and murders. (I'm not making this up.)
You had conversations about someone might be coming to your school to shoot up kids?
Yes, that would be very different than when I grew up.
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You had conversations about someone might be coming to your school to shoot up kids?
Yes, that would be very different than when I grew up.
Yes. There were kids who already had guns living in our neighbourhood and went to our school. I'd like to assume most of us are in the same age group and demographic.
The shooter was apprehended in the past under the Mental Health Act and taken to a hospital for assessment.
I dunno if I should place the blame on the RCMP or the news reporters, but there are 2 issues at hand that is bothering me:
1) Should the RCMP have elaborated more on the outcome of the mental health assessment? For public interest, I think it is meaningful to know whether the suspect has a history of mental health issues. Simply getting an assessment done, esp if it is just a single one, does not indicate one way or another on this front.
2) With the legally registered guns that were seized (from the suspect), was the suspect the registered owner of those guns? My guess is no, he isn't the legal owner, but I think the RCMP should have told the public about that. Or failing that, reporters should have pressed the police to provide this information. It is also not clear to me whether the legal owner's petition to get the guns back was successful or not. I feel like that bit of information should also have been made clear.
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