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_Hotsauce_ 03-02-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hung_low (Post 6308367)
2 does not mean many

we can scratch numbers off the list of things you comprehend

No, it does not mean many, but in the case of this discussion, 2 is the number we are discussing. 1.) "The Kingdom" referring to the greater power in which he referenced previously. 2.) Animal treatment when being slaughtered for human consumption.

Not to sure what you mean by `Many`when we are only looking at two things.

Ludepower 03-02-2009 03:13 PM

Before I watch this video..is it a PETA video?

LiquidTurbo 03-02-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 6308639)
Before I watch this video..is it a PETA video?

No I don't think so.. but please do watch.

Jason00S2000 03-02-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen (Post 6303697)
the kosher thing was brutal




Religion is backwards, same with halal meats, etc. Fucking retards.

Jason00S2000 03-02-2009 08:03 PM

Human beings are a mess, almost 7 billion of us, and the majority still believe in stone age books and are scared of invisible sky daddies.


We deserve to be wiped out by a rogue asteroid, I just hope a small group of advanced people get to mars on a colony ship before it happens. I bet the people that goto mars will all be agnostic or atheists, too. :)

welfare 03-02-2009 09:57 PM

how in the hell did this discussion turn to religion? oh, i see. it's jason00s2000 using any opportunity to spew his hatred on the subject. honestly, i don't know why you bother squandering all that energy.

oh no, wait. my apologies. it must have been this low rent simpleton who's incapable of cogitating the expression "animal kingdom"
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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6308527)
No, it does not mean many, but in the case of this discussion, 2 is the number we are discussing. 1.) "The Kingdom" referring to the greater power in which he referenced previously. 2.) Animal treatment when being slaughtered for human consumption.

Not to sure what you mean by `Many`when we are only looking at two things.


_Hotsauce_ 03-03-2009 08:08 AM

You stated `they are creatures of the kingdom`, the spiritual sovereignty of God or Christ, you did NOT say `Animal Kingdom`, a realm or province of nature, esp. one of the three broad divisions of natural objects, which led me to believe you were basing it off of God.
So, due to the context in which you used the word Kingdom, I came to my conclusion.

We are not going out into the `Animal Kingdom`, or wild, and killing animals anymore. We breed them for the sole purpose of eating (killing) them.

hung_low 03-03-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6309760)
You stated `they are creatures of the kingdom`, the spiritual sovereignty of God or Christ, you did NOT say `Animal Kingdom`, a realm or province of nature, esp. one of the three broad divisions of natural objects, which led me to believe you were basing it off of God.
So, due to the context in which you used the word Kingdom, I came to my conclusion.

We are not going out into the `Animal Kingdom`, or wild, and killing animals anymore. We breed them for the sole purpose of eating (killing) them.

for someone who thinks god doesn't exist, you sure know your religious terms well. thanks for googling the definition of us

it is a documentary about how humans take advantage of other animals, it's pretty obvious that we are referring to the animal kingdom and not Jamie Foxx's movie

connect the dots yourself

_Hotsauce_ 03-03-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hung_low (Post 6309791)
for someone who thinks god doesn't exist, you sure know your religious terms well. thanks for googling the definition of us

it is a documentary about how humans take advantage of other animals, it's pretty obvious that we are referring to the animal kingdom and not Jamie Foxx's movie

connect the dots yourself

Uhhh, If I knew the term, I wouldn`t have had to google it...DURRRRRRR.

A Term (Singular) not Terms (Plural).

Did I mention Jamie Foxxxxxxs movie, nope. I am refering to a point made by another user. If an animal is raised by a human, they are not in the `Animal Kindgom` .

Humans, being the superior race, breed and raise animals for the sole purpose of human consumption (killing and eating). So I really don`t care how the burger gets to my table at whatever restaurant I`m eating at.

Also, people don`t regularly associate human feelings with cows and chickens (And whatever other animal that is raised for food purposes that is mentioned in this video), as they are a purpose animal. If we were talking about dogs or cats, in which we regularly associate with human characteristics, then this might be more of an issue.

LETS GET THESE MOTHER FUCKING ANIMALS OUT OF THE MOTHER FUCKING KINGDOM and into my stomach

Grandmaster TSE 03-03-2009 10:25 AM

wouldn't really call it a documentary, more like propaganda videos

you gotta think about the other side of the equation, what if we didn't eat animals and we're all vegetarians
well the world would be overrun by mass populations of different species fighting for a spot on earth. and without us eating some of these animals, they're gonna breed like wildfire. yes, of course there will be some bigger predatory animals that will eat these animals and control the population to an extent, but guess what, these predatory animals are gonna breed like wildfire as well.

and thats just the creature side of things, think about all the vegetation that will be gone will all those creatures out there.

we're in the food chain, and its necessary for the ecosystem that we live in to be in balance. one member of the food chain is out, everything is gonna be messed up

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6309870)
So I really don`t care how the burger gets to my table at whatever restaurant I`m eating at.[/B]


Cruelty does this world no good.

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6309901)
wouldn't really call it a documentary, more like propaganda videos

you gotta think about the other side of the equation, what if we didn't eat animals and we're all vegetarians
well the world would be overrun by mass populations of different species fighting for a spot on earth. and without us eating some of these animals, they're gonna breed like wildfire. yes, of course there will be some bigger predatory animals that will eat these animals and control the population to an extent, but guess what, these predatory animals are gonna breed like wildfire as well.

and thats just the creature side of things, think about all the vegetation that will be gone will all those creatures out there.

we're in the food chain, and its necessary for the ecosystem that we live in to be in balance. one member of the food chain is out, everything is gonna be messed up



In case you haven't noticed, there are nearly 7 billion humans on earth, seems like WE are the problem.

Shead 03-03-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 6307338)
you don't comprehend very many things, do you?

i gata agree with u, he's not being very understanding of the situation

Grandmaster TSE 03-03-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309916)
In case you haven't noticed, there are nearly 7 billion humans on earth, seems like WE are the problem.

natural disasters
diseases
dumbasses doing stupid things that gets them and other dumbasses killed
accidents
there are many factors out there that controls the human population, human intended or not, but what is there other than being killed by something higher up on the food chain that controls the other populations out there

and there are many animals that exceeds 7 billion in population

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6309968)
natural disasters
diseases
dumbasses doing stupid things that gets them and other dumbasses killed
accidents
there are many factors out there that controls the human population, human intended or not, but what is there other than being killed by something higher up on the food chain that controls the other populations out there

and there are many animals that exceeds 7 billion in population


http://www.prb.org/Educators/Teacher...ionGrowth.aspx


Name some animals that exceed 7 billion?


There were many factors controlling human growth, now there are far less.

Grandmaster TSE 03-03-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309999)
http://www.prb.org/Educators/Teacher...ionGrowth.aspx


Name some animals that exceed 7 billion?


There were many factors controlling human growth, now there are far less.

think about all the birds there are
all of them make up way more than 7 billion
and don't be like they're all different, cuz if you say it like that, then you're gonna have to seperate human by race

yes there are far less, but there are still some left, and there could be possibly more in the future

ericthehalfbee 03-03-2009 12:57 PM

When animals evolve into something that doesn't taste so good, then I'll stop eating them.

_Hotsauce_ 03-03-2009 01:48 PM

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i gata agree with u, he's not being very understanding of the situation
Not being understanding? Why would I be understanding of his view point if I disagree with it.

StaxBundlez 03-03-2009 02:38 PM

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies..._In_Chains.jpg

FOR ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grandmaster TSE 03-03-2009 02:49 PM

surprised he didn't rap this

underscore 03-03-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6309901)
wouldn't really call it a documentary, more like propaganda videos

you gotta think about the other side of the equation, what if we didn't eat animals and we're all vegetarians
well the world would be overrun by mass populations of different species fighting for a spot on earth. and without us eating some of these animals, they're gonna breed like wildfire. yes, of course there will be some bigger predatory animals that will eat these animals and control the population to an extent, but guess what, these predatory animals are gonna breed like wildfire as well.

and thats just the creature side of things, think about all the vegetation that will be gone will all those creatures out there.

we're in the food chain, and its necessary for the ecosystem that we live in to be in balance. one member of the food chain is out, everything is gonna be messed up

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309916)
In case you haven't noticed, there are nearly 7 billion humans on earth, seems like WE are the problem.

exactly, we may be fucked up now, but if everyone became veggies, the world would be even more fucked.

hung_low 03-03-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6310212)
Not being understanding? Why would I be understanding of his view point if I disagree with it.

did you even watch it?

_Hotsauce_ 03-03-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hung_low (Post 6310477)
did you even watch it?

Nope, and like I`ve said over and over, I don`t care how the cow gets to my table, as long as it gets there.

welfare 03-03-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6309870)
people don`t regularly associate human feelings with cows and chickens (And whatever other animal that is raised for food purposes that is mentioned in this video), as they are a purpose animal.

:thumbsup:
i've got news for you, skippy. just because something becomes commonplace in society, doesn't mean it's necessarily righteously moral.
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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6309901)
you gotta think about the other side of the equation, what if we didn't eat animals and we're all vegetarians
well the world would be overrun by mass populations of different species fighting for a spot on earth. and without us eating some of these animals, they're gonna breed like wildfire. yes, of course there will be some bigger predatory animals that will eat these animals and control the population to an extent, but guess what, these predatory animals are gonna breed like wildfire as well.

do you actually think before you type out this dribble? if you said no, i definitely wouldn't think you were lying.
do you have any idea of the way nature works? how it all balances itself? pick up a book, kid. hell, use some god damned common sense even.
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and thats just the creature side of things, think about all the vegetation that will be gone will all those creatures out there.
most edible vegetation replenishes annually.


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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6309968)


and there are many animals that exceeds 7 billion in population

hmmm. alright. sounds like you're doing some thinking again.

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6310017)
think about all the birds there are
all of them make up way more than 7 billion
and don't be like they're all different, cuz if you say it like that, then you're gonna have to seperate human by race

humans are a single species. birds are not. they are a family of thousands upon thousands of different species.

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Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 6310291)

lol

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 6310450)
exactly, we may be fucked up now, but if everyone became veggies, the world would be even more fucked.

how so? oh yeah. i forgot. cows are gonna breed like wildfire.:haha:

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6310568)
Nope, and like I`ve said over and over, I don`t care how the cow gets to my table, as long as it gets there.

what you lack in discipline, you make up with ignorance

underscore 03-03-2009 09:56 PM

look beyond cows you idiot, and you might see how there would be a bigger problem.


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