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Look beyond cows? I really don't care what animal I'm eating, it's all the same shit to me.

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what you lack in discipline, you make up with ignorance

I'm ignorant because I don't agree with your point of view? That's interesting.

This thread is retarded.

i think most of you guys are missing the underlying point in the documentary.. it isn't about how much of these animals were processing and consuming, but rather the way in which were processing them at all.

do you really want cruelly treated, weakened, and unnaturally cultured foods and goods going down your digestive tract? eventually this will have aversive effects, as any of you would have seen if you watched it - mad cow disease, heart disease, etc. etc. the list goes on.

yes, eventually the animal/mammal in question will be slaughtered for food, as some of you have noted. but does that mean it has to be done in an inhumane and cruel manner, even if slightly more cost efficient? my understanding is most people nowadays wouldn't think twice before paying for a higher grade of food for the benefit of their own god forsaken health. in the end, its the careful and compassionate treatment of the very food we consume thats the central message.

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6311262)

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Look beyond cows? I really don't care what animal I'm eating, it's all the same shit to me.

I'm ignorant because I don't agree with your point of view? That's interesting.

This thread is retarded.

this thread became retarded the second you posted your meaningless points & ignorant ideas.

its so fun reading your replies. you remind me of monkeys typing hahaha

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6310568)

Nope, and like I`ve said over and over, I don`t care how the cow gets to my table, as long as it gets there.

by the way, maybe you should actually watch the movie before you input your comments rather than just rambling on with no clue what the hell you are talking about

right now you just sound like a douche

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Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 6310291)

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies..._In_Chains.jpg

LOL
i see welfare and hotsauce hahaha!
guess who's Caesar?

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 6311228)

look beyond cows you idiot, and you might see how there would be a bigger problem.

i'm not sure i follow. please elaborate.

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6311262)

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I'm ignorant because I don't agree with your point of view? That's interesting.

no. when i type words, they're written in their correct context
figure it out. it shouldn't be very difficult

As can be expected with anything where content is provided by PETA, there's a lot of BS in this video.

PETA's favorite trick is to find some footage of animals being abused and then paint the entire industry with the same brush.

I grew up on a farm and have seen slaughterhouses and nothing I've seen compares to this video. Of course, since they have "video proof" then these events obviously happened. But I like how they don't provide any information whatsoever as to their sources. Which farms were these? Which slaughterhouses? Why don't they name names? I'll tell you why: Because I bet a lot of this footage isn't even from Canada or the US.

Here's another fact they portray that's completely wrong: the idea that because farmers & producers want maximum profit that they overcrowd and abuse their animals in the name of profit.

The fact is that overcrowded and stressed animals make the farmer less money. The "quality" of the animal isn't as good and the "quality" of the animal before it gets slaughtered is what determines profit.

It sounds strange to say that a farmer who is going to ultimately see their livestock butchered is going to treat that livestock "well", but it's the truth. Healthy animals make big profits. Sick, stressed animals don't. What farmers will try is to find a balance where they can keep the animals healthy (and profitable) while increasing production. They don't simply use the model that "the more the better" (meaning, overcrowding to get the highest number of animals).

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Originally Posted by hung_low (Post 6311479)

this thread became retarded the second you posted your meaningless points & ignorant ideas.

its so fun reading your replies. you remind me of monkeys typing hahaha

My ideas are only ignorant to you because you disagree with them. I have read the thread, so have a full understanding about what this movie entails.

Post above me hits the nail on the head, and is why I understand the topic, and also did not watch the movie "PETA's favorite trick is to find some footage of animals being abused and then paint the entire industry with the same brush."
"I grew up on a farm and have seen slaughterhouses and nothing I've seen compares to this video. Of course, since they have "video proof" then these events obviously happened. But I like how they don't provide any information whatsoever as to their sources. Which farms were these? Which slaughterhouses? Why don't they name names? I'll tell you why: Because I bet a lot of this footage isn't even from Canada or the US."

@Welfare, lol wut?

Life isn't fair, I'll enjoy the advantage we've got.

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 6311206)

:thumbsup:
i've got news for you, skippy. just because something becomes commonplace in society, doesn't mean it's necessarily righteously moral.

do you actually think before you type out this dribble? if you said no, i definitely wouldn't think you were lying.
do you have any idea of the way nature works? how it all balances itself? pick up a book, kid. hell, use some god damned common sense even.

most edible vegetation replenishes annually.

hmmm. alright. sounds like you're doing some thinking again.

humans are a single species. birds are not. they are a family of thousands upon thousands of different species.

lol

how so? oh yeah. i forgot. cows are gonna breed like wildfire.:haha:

what you lack in discipline, you make up with ignorance

david suzuki in the hizzzouse

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6311769)

HAHAHHA thanks for proving my point with your ignorance.

your comments/ideas are based on someone else's interpretation, so you're just basically paraphrasing

"food" is only 1 of 5 parts in the movie, so using simple ratios, your IQ is probably 20% of a normal person

thanks for making me laugh

ps. i don't think you are ignorant, just your ideas

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Originally Posted by ericthehalfbee (Post 6311765)

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Here's another fact they portray that's completely wrong: the idea that because farmers & producers want maximum profit that they overcrowd and abuse their animals in the name of profit.

The fact is that overcrowded and stressed animals make the farmer less money. The "quality" of the animal isn't as good and the "quality" of the animal before it gets slaughtered is what determines profit.

"The total [almost 10 billion] also includes nearly 860 million animals who die from mistreatment before ever reaching the slaughterhouse." (extrapolation of data published by USDA's National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS) by FARM: http://www.farm.org For report pdf: http://www.wfad.org/RESOURCES/NRAnVictims2x.pdf) [02.10.01.03]

quantity>quality. fact is, people sacrifice quality for cost. a higher quantity equals a lower cost to the retailer. the retailer assumes the average consumer can't tell the difference, and for the most part, is correct. unfortunately, it's the tune that's played to a lot of things in the world these days. look around you and you'll see what i'm saying is true

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Originally Posted by _Hotsauce_ (Post 6311769)

My ideas are only ignorant to you because you disagree with them. I have read the thread, so have a full understanding about what this movie entails.

@Welfare, lol wut?

i see what the problem is here. you don't actually know what the word ignorant means. let me help you out with that
1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>2: unaware , uninformed
and here's the reason i so appropriately defined you as such

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So I really don`t care how the burger gets to my table at whatever restaurant I`m eating at.

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did you even watch it?

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Nope, and like I`ve said over and over, I don`t care how the cow gets to my table, as long as it gets there

i could care less if you disagree with me. in fact, i prefer it. it's just that you bring forth absolutely nothing of value to the discussion.

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6311911)

david suzuki in the hizzzouse

you realize that everything i'd stated in response to your comment was pretty much not beyond a twelve year old child's common knowledge, don't you?

i think i've wasted about as much energy as i care to bantering in this thread. unless, of course, anybody wishes to carry on a remotely intelligent discussion

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 6313424)

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 6313424)

"The total number of mammals and birds raised and killed for food in the U.S. this year is expected to reach 9.906 billion. This represents a 2% increase over the 2000 figure of 9.713 billion." (extrapolation of data published by USDA's National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS) by FARM: http://www.farm.org For report pdf: http://www.wfad.org/RESOURCES/NRAnVictims2x.pdf) [02.10.01.01]

with all due respect, i highly doubt the farms you were referring to resembled the factories in which the majority of that staggering statistic were created. that was in 2000, BTW. i'm sure the numbers are much higher now

"The total [almost 10 billion] also includes nearly 860 million animals who die from mistreatment before ever reaching the slaughterhouse." (extrapolation of data published by USDA's National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS) by FARM: http://www.farm.org For report pdf: http://www.wfad.org/RESOURCES/NRAnVictims2x.pdf) [02.10.01.03]

quantity>quality. fact is, people sacrifice quality for cost. a higher quantity equals a lower cost to the retailer. the retailer assumes the average consumer can't tell the difference, and for the most part, is correct. unfortunately, it's the tune that's played to a lot of things in the world these days. look around you and you'll see what i'm saying is true

i see what the problem is here. you don't actually know what the word ignorant means. let me help you out with that
1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>2: unaware , uninformed
and here's the reason i so appropriately defined you as such

i could care less if you disagree with me. in fact, i prefer it. it's just that you bring forth absolutely nothing of value to the discussion.

you realize that everything i'd stated in response to your comment was pretty much not beyond a twelve year old child's common knowledge, don't you?

i think i've wasted about as much energy as i care to bantering in this thread. unless, of course, anybody wishes to carry on a remotely intelligent discussion

yea u fucking tell'em LOL

Does it bother you that I eat baby cow?

I really don't care about this topic at all, so I'll stop my bullshit posts ;)