Originally Posted by ryan9939
(Post 6533320)
I was one of the referees in this game. The game was fairly clean up to the point of the brawl when all hell broke loose. I did my very best to make sure that the several Chuck Norris players involved are banned for life from the VIHL. There is no room in rec hockey for this kind of gang beating. I've been a ref in this league for 4 years, and primarily work out of KM doing the upper tiers of Platinum, Gold, and Silver, and have never seen the kind of cowardice shown by Chuck Norris during this game. That said, while I don't agree with the actions of the Chuck Norris players, there are worse teams in the league in terms of cheapshots, rough/dirty play than them....well, one other team, at least.
I was involved in this game as well, but as a player for Squeaky Wheels. Basically the Young Guns had been undefeated up until they faced us. Near the end of a tied game, I had knocked their defenceman over and stolen the puck from him and sent our player on a breakaway for the game winning goal (think it was in overtime). My action of knocking the player over wasn't a penalty in my opinion, and in the referee's opinion, but the Young Guns took exception and attacked me from behind during our goal celebration. This was when things got out of hand, a brawl started but was eventually broken up. When I went to the dressingroom, the girlfriends of the Young Guns were standing outside of our dressingroom giving me an earful so I gave them an earful and continued into the dressing room. This is when the Young Guns came in and tried to start an off ice brawl, but luckily cops came, and nothing else happened. There was no racial talk at all during this confrontation so your comment of "white guys not liking Asians being better at hockey than them" is completely wrong. I was one of only two caucasian players on my team; a team full of asians!
Now I play in Silver 1 which has significantly less BS than the lower tiers. The way the refs are assigned to games is based on experience. The more experience you have, the higher tiered games you're forced to ref. Inexperienced and lower tiered refs are stuck reffing lower tiered games. I'm an experienced, north vancouver ref, so I ref primarily in North Van at KM. Unfortunately with the lack of refs in the VIHL, and the large number of new refs based out of Vancouver/Burnaby, it's hard for the league to schedule experienced refs for lower tiered teams just because most of the experienced refs are occupied with with the upper tiered teams. Plain and simple, you can't put an inexperienced ref in an upper tiered game.
Depends on who is reffing your games. I've had my fair share of reffing with people who shouldn't be reffing. In my opinion there are only about 5 or 6 strong refs in the league, but most lower tiers will never get to see them. I can't speak for other refs, but for me, I don't care who wins a game, I don't keep track of score, I don't keep track of penalties during a game, I just call a game like I see it. I try to be as neutral and unbiased as I can be. There will be missed calls in games as this isn't the NHL with 4 officials on the floor, with instant replay, etc, and that's just the way it is. Your attitude towards the refs goes a long way though. If you act like an ass to me, I'm going to make sure I watch you when you're on the floor, especially if I've given you fair warning about something you're doing like light hooking or being overly aggressive, etc, and penalize you as you commit further infractions. You treat me with respect, and that will go a long way, but won't give you a get out of jail free card for any infractions you may commit. Games, especially playoff games where tempers are hot and games a little more aggressive are very hard on the refs. Refs don't want to interrupt the flow of the game, but you cross the line a little too far, and a penalty should be assessed.
Like I said, I can't speak for all refs, but I do know that they're probably trying very hard to call the game right and fairly. Experience is the limiting factor here for the lower tiers.
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