holy shit that video was intense dude! RIP

they used horses and walking power

RIP.
Omg my package.

if it happend on the water, it would have been cast away

WWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNN!!!

Shocking to see..

Sooner or later, aircraft crashes will increase to 1 accident per day around the world

Um, care to explain the logic behind that statement?

^logic doesn't exist here! this is revscene!

Wow scary video to watch, and thanks for the explanations. Sounds like the MD-11 isn't the greatest plane to fly...

wow, that sux. Hope the pilots died a quick death. RIP tho

now thats what i call a burnout
rip

I think it's not harder to fly than anything else, it just has some unique characteristics due to that big engine on the tail. Every plane has it's quirks and that's why each big plane you fly, you have to be checked-out on and proficient on that plane specifically. (You can't just go fly any airliner once you have an "airline transport pilot's licence") Once you're trained on a plane, everything is just operating procedure, and any inherrent quirks are just something you know about and deal with as per the operating procedures.

More pics
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I hope my Advan RZ isnt on that plane after 4 months wait


damn it

yup cause to send things from overseas it goes on a boat! :thumbsup:

the plane looked like a toy being tossed around

i have heard it was pretty gusty that day but there was a pilot saying it's not that unusual approaching tokyo with that kind of conditions


that being said...my question is why did the aircraft land so hard which caused it to porpoise... and why did let the aircraft sink instead of raising the nose up after the first bounce? a malfunctions caused by the initial bounce? i'm very curious


also, it looked like the wind may have picked up the right wing. it's not surprising because aircrafts on approach and landing have a "low energy state"


we'll see what the ntsb has to say if they are taking part...

Did you read my quoted post on the first page?...

I heard about it at a PAMEA meeting about a month ago, about statistics from around the world, not including major airliners, so small private jets and even private owned aircraft

Windshear means "wind changing direction & intensity very suddenly"

If you have a 47knots headwind, and you are in the flare, about to touch down, then all of a sudden, the 47 knot headwind veers to a 47 knot tailwind, you'd suddenly lost 94knots of airspeed.

If your approach speed is 155knots, with an added 20knots for headwind, you'll be flying 175knots. Your stall speed is 80knots.

So you're doing 175knots, and all of a sudden the wind veers 180degrees and you loose 94knots of headwind, now your airspeed is suddenly RIGHT AT STALL SPEED.

What do you think is going to happen?

PLANE FALL DOWN GO CRASH.

It's actually pretty simple.

The nose being down in the video is all part of what happens after a plane stalls. Either the nose drops after the stall, or the pilot pushes the nose down in order to recover from the stall. Either way, the plane stalled, or was about to stall, just before touchdown, hence the nose down pitch. In that situation, pulling the nose up would be either impossible, OR, it would result in a straight down vertical drop which would more dangerous than hitting in a slightly nose down attitude but with a forward motion.

Airline safety gets better every day. There is SO MUCH emphasis on safety, that it can literally take all the fun out of flying.

When I started flying 12 years ago, compared to today, there have been many improvements made by transport canada and the airline industry in regards to safety. SMS being just one of the most recent initiatives, the other being awareness of smaller bush airlines operating on a budget, etc etc.

My point is that the percentage of crashes compared to flights is going down. If there are more flights, there will be more crashes. BUT, overall, safety is getting better and better.

I don't like reading "fear mongering" comments unless there is absolute truth to it.

i mean the recent B737-800 crash

the B737-800 that crashed recently had a faulty rad alt. Which is what probably(initial reports from NTSB) casued the crash.



another theory could be a microburst, which caused the sudden nose down.

A microburst would actually push the nose up while pushing the entire plane down at the same time.

Remember the tail is a huge flat surface whereas the nose is streamlined. Make a tiny paper airplane that looks like an airliner, balance it on your finger, and blow down on it. The tail will go down and the nose will pitch up.

Just being through that very same airport 3 months ago, it really could have happened to a passenger jet, killing hundreds of passengers. RIP pilots.

and they do overnight too!!!
damn that's one fast boat!!!