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wasabisashimi 04-23-2009 12:09 PM

HDMI cables 1.2 vs 1.3
 
Went to NCIX and saw their HDMI cable for sale at 12.99$, this compare to the HDMI cables sold at Futureshop for $50+, of course naturally I thought it was a good deal.


So i asked the NCIX geek squad leader, whats the difference of their product vs futureshop rip-off. He said there is no difference except futureshop sells 1.3 hdmi and NCIX is 1.2 version.


He couldn't tell me whats the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3. So before I spend my money, can someone explain to me?

I am planning to use it with a Blue Ray player, and PS3, Also I run these components through my yamaha receiver model 6140 and then pass video signal to my Plasma. (everything needs to be hdmi)

Manic! 04-23-2009 12:32 PM

1.2 certified cables were produced and certified before the 1.3 spec was out.
NCIX also sell 1.3b spec cables.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62...R%20TECHNOLOGY

I would get my cables from monoprice.com if a need more than 1 or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDw2ZSDzlMw

wasabisashimi 04-23-2009 12:55 PM

very nice video showing the dirty sales trick at FS and BB, however, it doesnt explain the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3

Manic! 04-23-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 6394320)
very nice video showing the dirty sales trick at FS and BB, however, it doesnt explain the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Cman333 04-23-2009 03:07 PM

www.mxmart.com

$12 HDMI 1.3a

q0192837465 08-26-2009 12:12 PM

bump, so to play PS3, do we need 1.3a? From what I read in wiki, the cheapest 1.0 will do for BluRay.

Experts plz chime in

Cman333 08-26-2009 12:45 PM

Any HDMI will work for PS3

1.2 vs 1.3 vs 1.4 is explained in that wikipedia link

If you don't understand what they're saying....basically the higher the numer(ie. 1.4) the newer the technology. HDMI 1.0 is first gen HDMI and was only tested to do so much. As technology get better, the demand on the cable is higher so they make it better.

From what I remember the only major diff between the old and new is how thick a guage the wires are inside the cable.

I would buy a 1.3a or 1.4........

The cables basically cost the same anyways

unit 08-26-2009 01:27 PM

monoprice.com

best place to get cables

q0192837465 08-26-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cman333 (Post 6564662)
Any HDMI will work for PS3

1.2 vs 1.3 vs 1.4 is explained in that wikipedia link

If you don't understand what they're saying....basically the higher the numer(ie. 1.4) the newer the technology. HDMI 1.0 is first gen HDMI and was only tested to do so much. As technology get better, the demand on the cable is higher so they make it better.

From what I remember the only major diff between the old and new is how thick a guage the wires are inside the cable.

I would buy a 1.3a or 1.4........

The cables basically cost the same anyways

Do I need separate cable for sound? or is the HDMI tranmit both video & sound?

Eclypz 08-26-2009 01:54 PM

They are all backwards compatible, so the higher version, the better.

Go with 1.3a or higher.
You don't want to buy new HDMI cables everytime you upgrade your equipment.

1.4 is the newest

Eclypz 08-26-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6564726)
Do I need separate cable for sound? or is the HDMI tranmit both video & sound?

HDMI can carry sound and audio...but you should make sure your amp supports it.
Some of the "lower-end/older" amps don't allow both video and sound via HDMI

SkinnyPupp 08-26-2009 05:48 PM

You do NOT need 1.3 unless you require the ability to decode Deep Color and x.v.Color formats, neither of which are supported by Blu-Ray (which is 8-bit). Some Blu-Ray players will upsample to support these, but then you need a TV that supports them as well. And if your TV supports them, it can probably upsample anyway.

So bottom line is, 1.3 is pointless right now. If the price is more than $0.01 higher than a 1.2 cable you find, get the 1.2.

Manic! 08-26-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclypz (Post 6564737)
They are all backwards compatible, so the higher version, the better.

Go with 1.3a or higher.
You don't want to buy new HDMI cables everytime you upgrade your equipment.

1.4 is the newest

Older cables will just fine with 1.4. Nothing physically has changed on the way the cables are build.

Mugen EvOlutioN 08-26-2009 07:53 PM

same shit diff day

Eclypz 08-26-2009 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 6565038)
You do NOT need 1.3 unless you require the ability to decode Deep Color and x.v.Color formats, neither of which are supported by Blu-Ray (which is 8-bit). Some Blu-Ray players will upsample to support these, but then you need a TV that supports them as well. And if your TV supports them, it can probably upsample anyway.

So bottom line is, 1.3 is pointless right now. If the price is more than $0.01 higher than a 1.2 cable you find, get the 1.2.

1.3 supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, which is pretty common in today's Amps and BDs
OP's amp won't support those audio modes, but if he ever upgraded his amp down the road, why buy new cables?

StylinRed 08-27-2009 12:52 AM

From what wiki says, if you're going to bitstream dolby truehd and dts-hdma you'll need a 1.3 hdmi cable



hdmi 1.4 adds an ethernet channel so that you don't need an ethernet cable as its run through the hdmi cable... however there is no hardware out that supports this yet so its useless

SkinnyPupp 08-27-2009 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclypz (Post 6565611)
1.3 supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, which is pretty common in today's Amps and BDs
OP's amp won't support those audio modes, but if he ever upgraded his amp down the road, why buy new cables?

You don't need to use bitstream, it can be passed as PCM over any HDMI cable, with no loss in quality. In fact if you have a PS3 other than slim, you need to it that way anyway.

In any case, you shouldn't be spending $12 on an HDMI cable, 1.2 or 1.3 or whatever. Get a 1.3 cable from Monoprice for $2.50 USD (and up, depending on length). Anything more is a stupid waste of money.

hotjoint 08-27-2009 06:47 AM

i get my hdmi cable from ebay. I find that I can get them for cheaper then on monoprice

SkinnyPupp 08-27-2009 07:41 AM

Do you really need to spend less than $2.50 for a cable? :lol

underscore 08-27-2009 08:07 AM

^ if people feel the need to try and go lower wtf are they connecting? :haha:

twitchyzero 08-27-2009 08:40 AM

i'm happy with my 12ft 1.3b netted w/ copper ends for $16

Preemo 08-27-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6565848)
i get my hdmi cable from ebay. I find that I can get them for cheaper then on monoprice

Wow. You must be Mr.Cheapo.

JesseBlue 08-27-2009 02:45 PM

try and testing it by spending the 10 bux for those two cable (if you buy it from monoprice)...just like the link, you will not know the difference..oh yah..even superstore sells hdmi for 10 bucks nowadays

!Aznboi128 08-28-2009 09:36 AM

if your buying anywhere else other then monoprice (or a price close to that) then your getting ripped off

q0192837465 08-28-2009 09:44 AM

thx guys, just got 2 1.3a cables from monoprice for $6 a piece (including shipping).


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