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04-26-2009, 02:14 PM
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#1 | | I don't get it either
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Hi, how do I become an assistant for a photographer? check employement listing?
edit: forgot to mention I'm looking to do it for free.
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04-26-2009, 02:18 PM
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in this economy good luck.
seriously.
I know lots of working professionals who booked lots of work for advertisers and there workflow just go down the poopshoot.
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04-26-2009, 04:13 PM
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hmm how about assistant for free? just to get some exp..
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04-26-2009, 04:42 PM
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#4 | | I don't get it either
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oh ya, forgot to mention. for free yes haha.
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No one will even look at you if you don't have some kind of basic practical knowledge and/or formal training.
For example, If I tell you to "set up two lights at the classic portrait 45, at 2 to 1, 400 ISO" and hand you just a light meter, can you do it? I sure as hell am not going to teach you how to do it or tell you what it means, because you should already know. Just a heads up.
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04-26-2009, 08:21 PM
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^ iknow i know :P can i be your assistant  teheheh
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04-26-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Senna4ever  No one will even look at you if you don't have some kind of basic practical knowledge and/or formal training.
For example, If I tell you to "set up two lights at the classic portrait 45, at 2 to 1, 400 ISO" and hand you just a light meter, can you do it? I sure as hell am not going to teach you how to do it or tell you what it means, because you should already know. Just a heads up. | That's a bit harsh. Guess he wouldn't be looking or someone like you as a mentor. =\
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04-26-2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MikesJo That's a bit harsh. Guess he wouldn't be looking or someone like you as a mentor. =\ | It may be harsh, but it's true. Why should I sugar coat it?
To be an assistant, you need to know basic terminology, technique & theory. Of course, you'd learn a lot on the job, but you need to have the basics down. My sample question was a basic question of the most basic of techniques taught in lighting.
An internship, or practicum would be for a total newbie, but you'd still need to demonstrate a certain modicrum of photographic ability.
If you're a student, and a practicum with an well established professional photographer is part of your course, there are many that will take you under their wing, but with students from the three major photography schools in Vancouver looking to do 2 week internships, it's difficult to get a mentor. If you're an amateur and you want to get into assisting or second shooting, it's that much harder. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.
Even though I've had some amazingly good mentors this past 2 years, I personally would not be a good mentor...I lose patience too easily.
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04-26-2009, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bikerx ^ iknow i know :P can i be your assistant teheheh | You, Sir, are overqualified. 
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04-26-2009, 10:01 PM
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make friends with working pro's.
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04-26-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane make friends with working pro's. | Yeah, having the right connections can do wonders.
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04-26-2009, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostaholic Hi, how do I become an assistant for a photographer? check employement listing?
edit: forgot to mention I'm looking to do it for free. | To answer your question properly, try looking in the 'events' section of craigslist. There are lots of photographers looking for assistants. If you have little experience, then all you're going to be doing is holding a reflector or something, hauling gear and running after the photographer trying to keep up holding 40lbs+ of gear. Boring, but if you do it enough, you may get paid, and maybe even become a supporting shooter.
The (fair) going rate for an assistant is $200-$500/day, depending on who you assist, and how much post you do or do not do. Don't accept less than $150 though. You're worth at least that much.  MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF!
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04-26-2009, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Senna4ever Yeah, having the right connections can do wonders. | It is, even bad photographers get work because of good connections.
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04-27-2009, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane It is, even bad photographers get work because of good connections. | Oh, god...the stories I can tell you after working at Beau for 6 months...... 
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04-27-2009, 12:15 AM
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You know I probably wouldn't be so critical about these photographers, if they knew a lick or 2 about post processing or color management, and didn't edit their photo's on a laptop then send them off for publication.
But I can't talk trash, they have work and I don't.
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04-27-2009, 02:32 AM
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#16 | | I don't get it either
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Originally Posted by Senna4ever No one will even look at you if you don't have some kind of basic practical knowledge and/or formal training.
For example, If I tell you to "set up two lights at the classic portrait 45, at 2 to 1, 400 ISO" and hand you just a light meter, can you do it? I sure as hell am not going to teach you how to do it or tell you what it means, because you should already know. Just a heads up. | that may sound harsh but it is very true and I thank you very much for being straight up.
I admit I have no experience and never learned what that means but i'll take a wild guess anyway:
place Key light pointing to the location of the model. then fill light 45degree to the key light relative to the model at twice the distance of the key light. (i've never used a light meter), but I assume you check the luminosity of the light at the position of the model to see if the camera will give correct exposure at iso400? if the light is not bright enough or too bright, adjust lights accordingly.
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04-27-2009, 02:33 AM
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#17 | | I don't get it either
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oh ya, since becoming an assistant is pretty hard, maybe i'll just buy some books to read first.
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04-27-2009, 07:39 AM
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There are some amazing books out there that explain lighting procedures, apertures, etc. Definitely worth your first try. I bought one from Chapters (on sale) for like 6$ and it's one of the best books I own to date.
But don't get completely discouraged either - if you're seriously interested in the business, then your BEST BEST BEST bet is to go out and shoot. Alone, with friends, with these guys from the forum. I can't stress enough how much I learned from my peers here.
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04-27-2009, 11:16 AM
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#19 | | I don't get it either
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Originally Posted by Car Chick There are some amazing books out there that explain lighting procedures, apertures, etc. Definitely worth your first try. I bought one from Chapters (on sale) for like 6$ and it's one of the best books I own to date.
But don't get completely discouraged either - if you're seriously interested in the business, then your BEST BEST BEST bet is to go out and shoot. Alone, with friends, with these guys from the forum. I can't stress enough how much I learned from my peers here. | haha I'm really interseted in it as a hobbie. I am currently pursuiting an electrical engineering major and commerce minor degree, so I won't be in photography for the money, but for the experience and my expression as art.
In fact I already purchased some equipments and started shooting. It's my new found passion, and I love it. I only bought an DSLR about a week ago so I'm still messing around with it haha. Here some of the photos I took:
First day I got my camera, took some pictures of some cars driving by my drive way:  
Then few days later after exams, I went to the beach with some friends:   
Then the next day I took some pictures of my friend his his girlfriend at home: 
ok one more from my back yard haha. 
Constructive criticisms will be highly apprecieated. I really want to learn to become better.
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04-27-2009, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Chick There are some amazing books out there that explain lighting procedures, apertures, etc. Definitely worth your first try. I bought one from Chapters (on sale) for like 6$ and it's one of the best books I own to date.
But don't get completely discouraged either - if you're seriously interested in the business, then your BEST BEST BEST bet is to go out and shoot. Alone, with friends, with these guys from the forum. I can't stress enough how much I learned from my peers here. | Where have you been hiding!?
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04-27-2009, 11:26 AM
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#21 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by Boostaholic Hi, how do I become an assistant for a photographer? check employement listing?
edit: forgot to mention I'm looking to do it for free. | doubt youd want to .. but next time i have a shoot i could hook you up with my photog.
better yet go here...
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anymore questions just ask
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04-27-2009, 12:49 PM
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#22 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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04-27-2009, 03:43 PM
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1st pic: The pan is too blurry either from hand shake or a misfocus; 1/20 on a non stabilized lens? And f32 just kills the sharpness? May I recommend a ND filter so you can lower the shutter to say 1/50 - 1/100 and keep the aperture within the optimal range?
2nd: rear of the car is cut off and what appears to be back focusing as the person's siloutette appears to be in focus versus the actual car.
3rd: Some fill flash would have eliminated the shadows under her eyes:
4th and 5th: focusing problems made for a blurry photo, but I like her pose and expression in the 5th shot.
6th: Some back focusing is happening here, his shirt buttons are sharper and in better focus than his eyes or face. They also look kinda uneasy and awkward but perhaps its just the way they are
7th: nice flower shot but the focus is on the middle which is an unbloomed flower bud; the bokeh of this shot is also harsh with some strong circular highlights - lemme guess - this is the Canon 50mm f1.8 lens? Im not really familiar with Canon stuff so I'm just guessing.
Anyways thats just some raw comments, I dont mean to sound like an asshole as I'm just learning myself so take it as comments from a peer.
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04-27-2009, 07:17 PM
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#25 | | I STILL don't get it
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Pretty sure he didnt ask for a beat down.
your photos are fine as far as i can see, but something to look into, is the blurr effect, maybe some strobes, reflectors you know? start to buy some stuff for even being an assistant
How many lenses do you have? What types?
have you tried a photography class, those are great. For some people as myself photography can be a natural thing. Just depends on what your nack is with shots.
Cars?
Buildings?
Commercial?
People?
Nature/Micro shots?
Landscape?
Themes?
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