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05-19-2009, 09:42 AM
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My floor is made of marble granite stones. Therefore, it blocks my 54wireless G router signal to the basement.
If moving the wireless router is not an option, how can I get internet to basement?
Can I transmit internet through AC plugs? I need something quick.
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05-19-2009, 09:49 AM
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Yes, you can use the power lines.
In fact, the technology is called Powerline... http://www.ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=powerline | |
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05-19-2009, 10:03 AM
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powerline will be slower ? comparing to normal wireless G router or wired ethernet card
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05-19-2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul  | ok, here is what i think. This is a walk thru of how i will be setting up internet signals. Please correct me if i am wrong at any stage. the arrows shows direction of signal traveling
upstairs : shaw motorola box ---> wireless G router---> powerline adaptor (upstairs)-----> powerline adaptor (basement)-----> new wireless G router-------> successful internet connection for basement area?
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05-19-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi upstairs : shaw motorola box ---> wireless G router---> powerline adaptor (upstairs)-----> powerline adaptor (basement)-----> new wireless G router-------> successful internet connection for basement area? | Yep, you got the idea.
Just make sure for the basement, connect the network cable from the powerline adaptor to one of the switch ports on the new wireless G router, not the WAN port.
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05-19-2009, 10:59 AM
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what kinda router do you have?
im using an old G router and i can still get full signal from 2nd floor (and my router is in the basement..granite floors as well)
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05-19-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul Yep, you got the idea.
Just make sure for the basement, connect the network cable from the powerline adaptor to one of the switch ports on the new wireless G router, not the WAN port. | really?, how does that work?, I thought the WAN port receives the main signal first, and the switch ports create network signal for it after.
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05-19-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero what kinda router do you have?
im using an old G router and i can still get full signal from 2nd floor (and my router is in the basement..granite floors as well) | my linksys G router doenst give me any signal at all. Its the older ones with blue and black body and 2 antenna behind it.
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05-19-2009, 01:06 PM
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time to upgrade to a N router  | |
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05-19-2009, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi my linksys G router doenst give me any signal at all. Its the older ones with blue and black body and 2 antenna behind it.
| How strong is the signal if you're right next to the router?
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05-19-2009, 05:01 PM
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i get a full bar when i am in the room where the router is. But once i move down to basement, it gets to 3 bar, on the stairs, and zero at the basement suite
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05-19-2009, 07:30 PM
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sorry to hijack, but how much stronger are the signals for the newer routers? I'm not even talking about wireless N technology, even the newer versions of the WRT54G's (I'm using version 2, I'm oldschool).
I've read the other threads and I know people highly recommend the DIR-655 
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05-19-2009, 07:42 PM
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you guys must be baliln to live in a house with marble flooring. therefore just go buy a new router 
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05-19-2009, 09:39 PM
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wired net is the way to go lol
i would just cheap out and drill a hole send a cat 5 down there
but like tiger said marble flooring = ballin so i guess go buy powerline
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05-19-2009, 10:18 PM
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the DIR 655 I have at work goes through solid steel walls and floors....
the power line setup would just be hokey. so is trying to use 2 routers.
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05-20-2009, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ikkaku sorry to hijack, but how much stronger are the signals for the newer routers? I'm not even talking about wireless N technology, even the newer versions of the WRT54G's (I'm using version 2, I'm oldschool).
I've read the other threads and I know people highly recommend the DIR-655 | If you dont wanna go with N at the moment. Flash your router DD-WRT or Tomato and up the antennae strength. I just picked up a GL at the NCIX sale and did this. I got a stronger reception on my laptop compared to my G Dlink.
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05-20-2009, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi really?, how does that work?, I thought the WAN port receives the main signal first, and the switch ports create network signal for it after. | No... that's not quite how it works. WAN stands for Wide Area Network, so basically the port that connects to the Internet. It does NATing so that all machines behind the router shares one external connection.
But if you're connecting a second router to the primary router, you don't need NAT, and it's just a LAN connection... so your second router is basically just acting as a switch plus an access point.
It's a common mistake... that's why I specifically mentioned it. | |
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05-20-2009, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanLee If you dont wanna go with N at the moment. Flash your router DD-WRT or Tomato and up the antennae strength. I just picked up a GL at the NCIX sale and did this. I got a stronger reception on my laptop compared to my G Dlink. | sounds good, because I was wondering if the newer G's have better range... DD-WRT wasn't available for mine so I didn't think Tomato would have one for either, but I just checked and they even support version 1! Thanks a lot
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05-20-2009, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul No... that's not quite how it works. WAN stands for Wide Area Network, so basically the port that connects to the Internet. It does NATing so that all machines behind the router shares one external connection.
But if you're connecting a second router to the primary router, you don't need NAT, and it's just a LAN connection... so your second router is basically just acting as a switch plus an access point.
It's a common mistake... that's why I specifically mentioned it. | really now.... wierd how i have my connections connected to the WAN for my second router and everything still works lol
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05-20-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper really now.... wierd how i have my connections connected to the WAN for my second router and everything still works lol | On the routers flashed with third party firmware, you can reassign the WAN port as a regular LAN port... but if that's not what you did, then it really shouldn't all automatically work. You can configure it to work, but it shouldn't be plug and play like the way I outlined above. Devices behind the two routers should have to be on different subnets...
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05-20-2009, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper really now.... wierd how i have my connections connected to the WAN for my second router and everything still works lol | It works, but you'll run into some snags if you try to map a port to something connected on the second router. You basically have 2 networks now.
You should configure your 2nd router so it's like a switch. You'll need to disable client DHCP, since your 1st router will handle that. You'll probably have to give the 2nd router a different IP address, as well.
The easier way is to get yourself a switch. You can get one for less than $20.
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05-21-2009, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Presto It works, but you'll run into some snags if you try to map a port to something connected on the second router. You basically have 2 networks now.
You should configure your 2nd router so it's like a switch. You'll need to disable client DHCP, since your 1st router will handle that. You'll probably have to give the 2nd router a different IP address, as well.
The easier way is to get yourself a switch. You can get one for less than $20. | do they make wireless switch?
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05-21-2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Presto It works, but you'll run into some snags if you try to map a port to something connected on the second router. You basically have 2 networks now.
You should configure your 2nd router so it's like a switch. You'll need to disable client DHCP, since your 1st router will handle that. You'll probably have to give the 2nd router a different IP address, as well.
The easier way is to get yourself a switch. You can get one for less than $20. | You don't really have to "configure" the 2nd router so it's like a switch... because it IS already a switch.
I mean, all of these home wireless routers that you buy are a router, switch, and wireless access point all in one unit.
If you only use the switch ports and not the WAN port, then you effectively have a switch. Nothing needs to be configured. The only configuration you really need to do on the 2nd router is configure it as a wireless point.
As a switch, I don't even need to disable DHCP on the 2nd router if you don't plug anything into the WAN port.
However, because it's a wireless access point, I think DHCP needs to be disabled and instead forwarded to the 1st router.
But actually, perhaps I misunderstood his requirements... if all he needs is Internet in the basement, not necessarily wifi down there, then yes... he could just use a simple switch and use a wired connection.
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05-21-2009, 12:07 PM
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i needed to create a wireless zone in the basement. Thats why i am asking if there is a wireless switch. (in case its cheaper than the all-in-one wireless router/switch.
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05-21-2009, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul As a switch, I don't even need to disable DHCP on the 2nd router if you don't plug anything into the WAN port. |
Well, you should disable client DHCP. Leave the internet on DHCP, or whatever. 2 DHCP servers on the same network could possibly cause conflicts.
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