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ilvtofu 05-19-2009 08:55 PM

because cars like the LP-640 aren't meant to achieve 36 mpg.

hk20000 05-19-2009 09:06 PM

Do some maths, and you'll know why Ferrari isn't even slightly affected at all....

Ferrari = part of Fiat, with Fiat coming into the economy, they can certainly "average" a 35.5mpg by selling loads of Fiat 500 hahaha.

Fleet mileage, not individual car mileage. Selling diesel cars here would help too....like Lupo TDI 3L/100km....

ilvtofu 05-19-2009 09:13 PM

hmmm... i wonder if lupo TDI's can be used to balance out bugatti veyrons in 7 years... or would it not count because it's different brand?

1exotic 05-19-2009 09:38 PM

This globalwarming / greenhouse stuff is BULL SHIT.

I'm gunna buy a buick grand national that runs 1 mile on 1 gallon, mmmm yummy yummy smog.

orange7 05-19-2009 11:09 PM

lol.. what are those future presidents going to ride in? smart cars with carbon fiber armor?

Nightwalker 05-19-2009 11:52 PM

Get the masses off the petrol, leave it for us enthusiasts :)

Alatar 05-20-2009 03:35 PM

Funny thing. The more fuel-efficient and cleaner-burning we make cars, the worse they are for greenhouse gases.

Nightwalker 05-20-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alatar (Post 6430529)
Funny thing. The more fuel-efficient and cleaner-burning we make cars, the worse they are for greenhouse gases.

You're like 2 media scares behind. It's called "climate change" now

ilvtofu 05-20-2009 05:09 PM

can't some MED close this thread its too depressing to think of fuel economy...

Timpo 05-21-2009 12:17 AM

ok yeah I guess there will be loop hole for exotics then...as usual

obama will be gone by 2016 anyways, so the law will change

CRS 05-21-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6431130)
ok yeah I guess there will be loop hole for exotics then...as usual

obama will be gone by 2016 anyways, so the law will change

Well, he was elected in November of 2008 and assumed office in January 2009, and IF he is elected for an extension of a 4 year term, well you do the math.

He will still very much be around.

RE-Jo 05-21-2009 09:46 AM

isn't this more like 35.5mpg average for each manufacturer? So they could have a gas gazzler/high performance car, then have a small Electric car to compensate for it.

Timpo 05-21-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RE-Jo (Post 6431460)
isn't this more like 35.5mpg average for each manufacturer? So they could have a gas gazzler/high performance car, then have a small Electric car to compensate for it.

if they have an electric car, how does it work? how many mpg? do they just put random numbers like 10,000mpg?

Manic! 05-21-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6431562)
if they have an electric car, how does it work? how many mpg? do they just put random numbers like 10,000mpg?

It counts as zero because it uses no gas.

q0192837465 05-22-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6432013)
It counts as zero because it uses no gas.

but anything over zero is infinity

rsx 05-22-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastwood (Post 6429075)
Wait is this gonna apply to every car? Or will their be a special tax you will be required to pay to drive high-end cars like Ferrari?

With Obama controlling what vehicles auto makers are manufacturing now, can anyone see him release a vehicle similar to the Nazi Beetle?

I hate Hitler references, but the evidence is the writing on the wall.

Writing on the wall?

Hitler committed genocide, Obama's trying to increase fuel efficiency.

:confused:

Nightwalker 05-22-2009 04:58 PM

It's an average for each manufacturer, for cars built in that year forward.

But anyway, good point. That Beetle sure was a failure. *snicker*

underscore 05-22-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6431562)
if they have an electric car, how does it work? how many mpg? do they just put random numbers like 10,000mpg?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6432013)
It counts as zero because it uses no gas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6433089)
but anything over zero is infinity

by that as long as they have one electric car they can make anything they want haha.

I think they'll have some rating based on the countries electricity production (how much CO2 is produced per kW) or something

synchrocone 05-23-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsx (Post 6433103)
Writing on the wall?

Hitler committed genocide, Obama's trying to increase fuel efficiency.

:confused:

Regardless, the government has billions of dollars all ready to go to get the domestic industry back on its feet. To a lot of people, including myself, that isnt exactly chump change.

synchrocone 05-23-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6431562)
if they have an electric car, how does it work? how many mpg? do they just put random numbers like 10,000mpg?

Thats a good question. It can be a pretty wide margin that will probably be worked out and amended over time. Who knows? Last time I checked a Mustang GT almost achieves these numbers on the Canadian side of things. Rowing through the gears to beat the rush through the Port Mann? Obviously not.

On an unrelated note, if my memory serves me right, a Fortune magazine article from a couple months ago further emphasizes a very challenging future for the established industry. The article presented a Chinese company apparently capable of producing 'fuel efficient' cars at a price of maybe $20,000; some of which was under Warren Buffett's portfolio.

At this moment, the Mercedes Ion-Lithium technology seems capable to do the job.


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