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Old 05-25-2009, 12:45 PM   #26
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you're more likely to be shot/stabbed at by being an innocent average joe civilian rather than a cop. you're giving them too much credit. what benefit does a criminal have in jabbing a cop versus jabbing a woman for her LV purse?

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Hardly. The purpose behind being a police officer is to actively go out and hunt the sort of people who would do the crimes. By doing so, you're exposing yourself to the possibility of physical harm, disability, or even death. Seeking it out is far riskier than stumbling upon it. I'd like to see that stat of innocent civilians being at greater risk than police officers.
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What's your point? Is this another attempt at authoritarian scrutiny because if so, the lot of you are pretty fuckin' dumb.

Maybe you'd perfer the Mexican way where you pay your cops peanuts so you'd see the following phenomenon as rampant and the norm:

*** Ease of police employment by cartels
*** Higher probability of police falsely hassling innocent civilians for quick cash payoffs

But hey, at least it saves on tax money I guess more money on politicians pockets.
I don't know if you're taking offense to me posting this article or not, but just to be safe, i'll state my opinion on the subject. For the record, I have no problem with cops being paid this much.
If this is the cost of having quality policemen doing good police work, who manage to stay straight and aren't corrupt, then I think it's all worth it. It's unfortunate that other first responders may not be compensated as well as the police.

Usually, when I post articles, I refrain from commenting in the inital post. The reason I do this is because I want to hear what other people have to say. I notice more often than not that if someone posts an article, and they include their opinion with it, it seems to set the mood of the whole thread, and a bunch of people will basically bandwagon on that 1st guy's opinion and agree like a bunch of tools. I'm not interested in hearing a bunch of people go "I agree" or "QFT" on subjects like this, I like to hear the different opinions and perspectives.

I can only imagine that some cops are a nervous wreck from trying to keep their composure from all the horrible and crazy BS they see during their shifts. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder. If that's the case, all this money sure isn't going to help them much - i'm assuming that issues like this are like chronic pain and cannot be easily fixed.

To the guy who said they shouldn't be cops if they can't handle it, think of it this way: they're doing it so you don't have to. Believe it or not, a lot of people out there like to help others, they enjoy it. I like to believe cops are like those people, and they happen to get compensated well for it. For argument's sake, who is to say the cops even want this OT pay? Maybe they do it *strictly* for the experience. I think it's possible.

edit: Although reading articles and reports like this with the opinions of people like Daniel Fontaine and the opposition is sometimes disheartening/upsetting, I believe it has it's purpose. It reminds us that there's accountability. The cops have to report to somebody what they spend, and that due diligence provides accountabilty - they know they can't just burn whatever amount of money and believe they can get away with it. If it wasn't for accountability, I'm sure they would become less and less thoughtful of how they spent their budget.
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you're more likely to be shot/stabbed at by being an innocent average joe civilian rather than a cop. you're giving them too much credit. what benefit does a criminal have in jabbing a cop versus jabbing a woman for her LV purse?

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yes....thats right..cops just walk the street looking dangerous, they don't do things like raid illegal operations, solve murders, walk down East Hastings/Main

cops don't have a possibility of having someone point a gun in their face in a critical situation, and have to stay calm and collected.

yes...they just go walk around, and have a way LOWER chance of being shot shot and stab as a innocent average joe.

you don't have a clue do you?
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being a cop is tough. just the hours alone would want me to not take this job.

seeing as they work 12 hours shifts. overtime is just too much.
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What qualifications do you need to be a cop?
Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
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Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
er, people doesnt have to die to make a job dangerous.
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Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
Haven't seen you in the hockey thread ever since the Hawks have started to shit the bed.

Hmm........I wonder why?
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Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
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Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
Where have you been buddy? You haven't posted in the Canucks thread in a long time..
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its true that not many cops die on the job but think about all the crack addicts they have to deal with along with the gangs long hours etc
i mean im not saying that we should be paying them 100k+ but can u imagine if the vpd went on strike? (fat chance but bare with me)
what someone else makes its none of my business
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Lemme guess; you'd rather the RCMP/VPD/whatever be paid minimum wage with only the barest amount of overtime when it's absolutely needed?

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The article and sheet doesn't specify which cops get paid that amount, not to mention how much of it is on official police business and how much is doing side jobs as security. If you think your basic road cop is making this much, think again. These earners are likely veteran ERT members and high ranking officers, along with some UC agents. Just like any other job in the world, the more dangerous the permanent assignment, the more you get paid.
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so...how many officers are working at VPD?

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Hmm........I wonder why?
HAHA..I aint a hawks fan..just anti bandwagon canucks fan. This city doesn't deserve the cup.

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Where have you been buddy? You haven't posted in the Canucks thread in a long time..
You mean the bangwagon thread that crashed once the Canucks got eliminated? Yea that's your typical bandwagon fans here...they know nothing about hockey...watch it only if when the city gets a 'playoff buzz' going.

Betcha 75% DONT even KNOW what's going on with the rest of the playoffs now. Wings take it again this year.
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u fail to realize that gordon campbell uses his position to do a lot of other business.

he may be paid an X amount for being the premier, but he makes a crap load more for his influences and involvement of other business dealings.

how many politicians actually go into politics because they care?

for the amount of stress on job, training, and responsibility for being a cop, the salary is warranted...
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Highschool education making 100K a year...sign me up!

Also..comments about their jobs being dangerous...how many actually die? I bet you more truck drivers die than cops.

I got no problem if they're making 100K a year investigating actual crimes...not the ones sitting on their asses with radar guns and deciding to stay a couple hours overtime at timmmy's.
Go apply if you think its that easy.
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sounds fair to me man.

go talk to the BSc or BA working at star bucks LOL, now THAT's unfair.

but such is life. so boohoo. it's only unfair if you're making less, so go make more.

quit bitchin, life is very unfair, go wait for your lucky break or just work harder (and hope that hard work pays off). 100g a year isnt that much anyways.
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There are many people who do a lot less and get paid a lot more...

Like entertainers...
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Any Cop making over $100,000 a year is just saving up for his divorce lawyer...trust me! Some of the high flyers in that story were making 70 hours OT a shot. You are also giving at LEAST 50% to the tax man...at least.
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You are also giving at LEAST 50% to the tax man...at least.
Would you care to quote the tax brackets for me?
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Any Cop making over $100,000 a year is just saving up for his divorce lawyer...trust me! Some of the high flyers in that story were making 70 hours OT a shot. You are also giving at LEAST 50% to the tax man...at least.
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Would you care to quote the tax brackets for me?
Thats just common tax practice/laws - Allow me :

Your taxes are calculated by:

Adding your salaries, wages, commissions; bonuses, vacation pay, gratuities; pensions, retiring allowances, and death benefits; and the value of any of your taxable benefits/allowances.
Subtracting your employee contributions to a registered pension plan; RRSP contributions; union dues (all jurisdictions except Quebec); a deduction for living in a prescribed zone; and deductions authorized by The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA)
The figure that remains is your net taxable income.



What does Non-Per. Tax mean?
Non-periodic taxable income is the income tax deducted from the current pay period over and above regular income, such as retroactive pay increases and bonus payments. It is one of two methods of taxation for remuneration, the other being regular taxable income.


Using the tax calculation for the regular taxable income means that the income is annualized and taxed at the annual rate based on the applicable tax tables.


Using the tax calculation for the bonus payments means that the regular tax is calculated based on an annual basis. The bonus income is not annualized and only the difference is taxed using the applicable tax rates.



Why is so much tax taken when I work overtime?
Canada Pension Plan contributions, Employment Insurance premiums, and Income Tax must be deducted from overtime pay. When the overtime pay is paid, it is added to the regular pay and the income tax deductions are calculated from the total amount in the usual way using the regular taxable income method (above).


http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

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