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05-25-2009, 06:25 AM
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| Report: 350 Vancouver cops make over $100,000 a year
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Almost 350 Vancouver Police Department members were paid more than $100,000 in 2008, a new report has found.
And two unidentified regular VPD members earned roughly $225,000 each, the report by researcher Daniel Fontaine states.
That’s in contrast to Premier Gordon Campbell’s $175,000 pay cheque, Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson’s $135,000 and most provincial court judges.
A veteran constable is entitled to $89,900 regular pay per year.
“Some policemen are making far in excess of any elected official,” said Fontaine, a one-time aid to former Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan who obtained his figures through a freedom of information request. Fontaine said overtime is endemic in the Vancouver force and overtime perks are even used to entice new prospects onto the force.
“The VPD’s recruiting package says policemen make at least $10,000 to $15,000 a year in overtime,” he said.
“Overtime is built into the DNA.”
But Vancouver Coun. Geoff Meggs said council has been satisfied with efforts to reduce overtime.
“Police have worked very, very hard to manage financially as tight as they can,” said Meggs. “They are faced with tremendous pressures in gang warfare. They can’t ask criminals to hold off while they balance their budget,” he said.
Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu and city manager Penny Ballem noted last March that the VPD had spent nearly half of its $2-million criminal investigation fund in the first two months of the year and was expected to be “significantly overbudget by the the end of 2009,” citing the unprecedented war on gangs.
The VPD “is not funded to sustain such a large operation addressing a regional crime problem for a lengthy period of time,” Chu said in a report to city council. The freedom of information document listed 2,000 VPD salaries, but no names were disclosed.
Fontaine said the public deserves accountability in police budgeting as much as other areas of government.
“Other departments in Vancouver are undergoing layoffs and pay freezes,” said Fontaine, adding that more officers are being hired.
VPD figures show the top earner in 2008 was police chief Jim Chu with $268,000. Deputy-Chief Constable Doug Lepard was paid $247,887 and Deputy-Chief Constable Bob Rolls $218,014.
Fontaine conceded some monies were paid to police by outside employers such as the film industry and the fireworks festival, who rent out cops at overtime rates. He said the income would show up on the salary survey, but not come out of the police budget.
Vancouver police spokeswoman Const. Jana McGuinness said the overtime is needed to combat crime in B.C.’s biggest city.
“It’s difficult to have it both ways,” said McGuinness. “We’ve got extraordinary situations in respect of the gang wars.
“That activity has gone on for the better part of the last year, which definitely has counted toward a significant amount of overtime,” she said.
McGuinness pointed out the VPD has been recruiting at a rapid rate, having hired 200 staff in the past 18 months, “in our push up to 2010 to fill all the vacancies. “We’ve got to have people to fill those spots on the streets until the new people are hired,” she said.
McGuinness added: “We need to be out there policing and doing everything possible to put an end to the gang wars. “It does contribute to the overtime expenses, for certain.”
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05-25-2009, 06:29 AM
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just more than busting dealers... 
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05-25-2009, 07:14 AM
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LOL what a stupid report, most cops do way more than $15k of overtime... I've seen as high as $35-45k in OT in one year... so what? Their personal lives suck and if they have families, you can bet the relationship is damaged...
I doubt Gordon Campbell is getting shot at or investigating murders, you could turn around and say at $170k to sit in an office and sign things and never actually do anything himself (advisors, speech writers, etc.) is pretty overpaid too.
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05-25-2009, 07:25 AM
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i find the VPD to be more pleasant to deal with than the RCMP. i guess the RCMP make relatively less
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05-25-2009, 07:25 AM
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yah...they have a chance to get shot at pretty much every day...they deserve it...now ceos of icbc...lets scrutinize that
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05-25-2009, 07:27 AM
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Cops deserve every penny of what they get paid to do.
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05-25-2009, 07:27 AM
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05-25-2009, 10:23 AM
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yeah. the cops sitting around in the offices definatley deserve 270k a year.
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05-25-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by asahai69  yeah. the cops sitting around in the offices definatley deserve 270k a year. | That's pennies compared to the $50 Million dollar USD that all the FAT cat CEOs get paid in the states, and that's just their base salary, excluding bonuses and stock options.
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05-25-2009, 11:06 AM
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^ i only got a problem with that if its my tax money going into it.
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05-25-2009, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 yeah. the cops sitting around in the offices definatley deserve 270k a year. | hmmm..get a chance @ being shot for 20 years or so, before they become office jobs.
Worth the 270? Yup.
let me know when you spend the last 20 years dealing with drugs/guns - possibility of needles, giving you aids/murder.
Don't deserve that amount.
Of all jobs, Cops/Firefighter/paramedics ANYTHING emergency oriented, deserves pay.
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05-25-2009, 11:10 AM
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Lol wow cops r balled out then eh.. Think of all the dirty money they get as well..
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05-25-2009, 11:11 AM
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its a part of the job description. if you dont want the chance of getting shot. dont become a damn cop. they should pay the guys walking on the street and actually dealing with that shit more and the retards in the front office less.
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05-25-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt-R R34 hmmm..get a chance @ being shot for 20 years or so, before they become office jobs.
Worth the 270? Yup.
let me know when you spend the last 20 years dealing with drugs/guns - possibility of needles, giving you aids/murder.
Don't deserve that amount.
Of all jobs, Cops/Firefighter/paramedics ANYTHING emergency oriented, deserves pay. | The problem is paramedics barely make anything.. especially when they first start out..
I dont think firefighters make that much either..
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05-25-2009, 11:21 AM
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i remember a cop that pulled me over was telling me he just bought a brand new z06. i didn't believe him...now I do! I thought cops only make like 60grand a year  | |
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05-25-2009, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt-R R34 hmmm..get a chance @ being shot for 20 years or so, before they become office jobs.
Worth the 270? Yup.
let me know when you spend the last 20 years dealing with drugs/guns - possibility of needles, giving you aids/murder.
Don't deserve that amount.
Of all jobs, Cops/Firefighter/paramedics ANYTHING emergency oriented, deserves pay. | you're more likely to be shot/stabbed at by being an innocent average joe civilian rather than a cop. you're giving them too much credit. what benefit does a criminal have in jabbing a cop versus jabbing a woman for her LV purse?
point negated. end of discussion. mods, close this thread!
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05-25-2009, 11:35 AM
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I don't see a problem based on this report alone.
They're making their regular wage (under $100k) and earning the extra money by working overtime hours. A $90k salary for a veteran employee in this type of job environment is sensible. If I were an officer I would have a problem if the top of my potential salary range was something significantly lower. I would have a problem if I were not paid for overtime hours.
Additionally, some of these earnings are as a result of the organization contracting out their services.
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05-25-2009, 11:36 AM
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One thing, though; if there's that much overtime to be had they may be understaffed.
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05-25-2009, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nns | What's your point? Is this another attempt at authoritarian scrutiny because if so, the lot of you are pretty fuckin' dumb.
Maybe you'd perfer the Mexican way where you pay your cops peanuts so you'd see the following phenomenon as rampant and the norm:
*** Ease of police employment by cartels
*** Higher probability of police falsely hassling innocent civilians for quick cash payoffs
But hey, at least it saves on tax money  I guess more money on politicians pockets.
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05-25-2009, 12:01 PM
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so?
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Fuck I would rather the Gov paying them that much, than cheaping out on the cops.
Underpaid cops will find other means of income, not to mention they risk their lives for the pay.
I wouldnt do it myself
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05-25-2009, 12:14 PM
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350 officers out of how many?
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05-25-2009, 12:22 PM
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fuck i'm gonna apply for vpd after the summer.
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05-25-2009, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane fuck i'm gonna apply for vpd after the summer. | What qualifications do you need to be a cop?
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Kent Spencer can go fuck himself if he's trying to drum up some anti-police news.
VPD + RCMP deserver all the money they can get because of all the risks that are involved with their jobs.
Campbell makes $175k - Robertson makes $135k
You can pretty much guarantee that most of their expense is comped when they go out.
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