REVscene Automotive Forum

REVscene Automotive Forum (https://www.revscene.net/forums/)
-   Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events (https://www.revscene.net/forums/vancouver-off-topic-current-events_50/)
-   -   Air France Rio-Paris flight missing with 228 aboard (https://www.revscene.net/forums/577684-air-france-rio-paris-flight-missing-228-aboard.html)

Chairman Kaga 06-01-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6446596)
What would you do in the last 90 seconds of your life inside the airplane?

Bitch and moan about how it had to be this plane.

Timpo 06-01-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6446610)
Flight Data Recorder/Cockpit Data Recorder

ah I see

HonestTea 06-01-2009 02:14 PM

Tragic..

RIP :(

q0192837465 06-01-2009 02:23 PM

so they can't predict wut kind of weather the plane is gonna go thru before lift off?

Lychee 06-01-2009 02:38 PM

Read about this in the morning. What a tragic incident, RIP to those on board.

Harvey Specter 06-01-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6446760)
so they can't predict wut kind of weather the plane is gonna go thru before lift off?

They route their flightplans according to weather reports but when you're flying over stormy weather, anything can happen.

ryugeeh 06-01-2009 02:55 PM

This is so sad. I hope they can atleast find some evidence of the crash. RIP

Rich Sandor 06-01-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6446760)
so they can't predict wut kind of weather the plane is gonna go thru before lift off?

Yes, however it's not quite that simple. If there is a crasy weather system that can be avoided, the flight planners will route the plane in a different direction, and the airplane also has weather radar to avoid really nasty cells within a weather system if they need to go through it.

Since the weather systems in the south atlantic are so massive that they stretch across the entire eastern coast of the continent, airliners pretty have have to fly into the soup and use the wx radar to avoid the nasty cells. However, if the weather radar fails while the plane is IMC (ifr conditions) then it can only follow it's IFR instruments which do not see weather.

ATC Radar does not extend that far off the coast, so no one can vector them around weather either.

InvisibleSoul 06-01-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6446652)
Probably would have been a lot longer than that, chances are the pilots would have tried everything they could to bring it down slowly, give themselves time to restore power, and ultimately to attempt to ditch as gently as possible so the passengers could evacuate. Big jets DO have some glide capability, so it's possible they had a good 5-10 minutes before hitting the water.

Possibly... but we would never know. If they actually lost all power and electricals, then I guess they wouldn't have been able to do anything to go down slower...

metal 06-01-2009 03:55 PM

^Still would have had the RAT at least.

Anurag 06-01-2009 04:09 PM

no survivors?

Nintensity 06-01-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anurag (Post 6446916)
no survivors?

Read the thread

Anurag 06-01-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintensity (Post 6447031)
Read the thread

RIP to those who were on board, and yes i did read the thread, it said nobody was expected to survive, but out of 228 people, I was thinking that maybe some people survived the severe crash

yson_3 06-01-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anurag (Post 6447071)
and yes i did read the thread,


no you didn't....

b/c if you did, you'd have read that they are still searching for the plane

jimzilla 06-01-2009 07:00 PM

Hoping for the best for the passengers and aircrew,

Reminds me of one of those episodes on Mayday on discovery channel

Nintensity 06-01-2009 07:32 PM

There was one canadian on the plane!

Harvey Specter 06-01-2009 07:55 PM

No way would anyone have survived. The plane was 35,000ft and most likely broke up into pieces before well before hitting the water. Hopefully they can recover the blackbox but the toughest thing right now is locating the wreckage.

sh0n 06-01-2009 08:07 PM

***Breaking news***

Reports in that they crashed and landed on an island with monsters and polar bears. Apparently the crash was due to an unexplained magnetic force.

Apparently there are 6 survivors and they are now known as the "Oceanic 6".

Wait a minute that happened on TV

*** End Breaking news ***

On a sad note. RIP and condolences to all the friends and families

hal0g0dv2 06-01-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh0n (Post 6447268)
***Breaking news***

Reports in that they crashed and landed on an island with monsters and polar bears. Apparently the crash was due to an unexplained magnetic force.

Apparently there are 6 survivors and they are now known as the "Oceanic 6".

Wait a minute that happened on TV

*** End Breaking news ***

On a sad note. RIP and condolences to all the friends and families

wtf

shitty way to die
rip

TRDood 06-01-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh0n (Post 6447268)
***Breaking news***

Reports in that they crashed and landed on an island with monsters and polar bears. Apparently the crash was due to an unexplained magnetic force.

Apparently there are 6 survivors and they are now known as the "Oceanic 6".

Wait a minute that happened on TV

*** End Breaking news ***

On a sad note. RIP and condolences to all the friends and families

yea wtf?

keitaro 06-01-2009 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6446331)
did a quick research, finding an ELT isn't easy if they use 121.5MHz

http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-01-29_elt.asp


that is out dated information. The new ELT frequency is 406MHz. It was changed last year.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 6446588)

also from my understanding, aircrafts are lightening proof, it could damage some electricals, but that's only for few seconds...

if they can find a black box I guess NTSB can find what went wrong.

Planes are not lightning proof. Planes are designed to withstand a direct lightning strikes of certain proportion. Usually there will be an entry and exit. There are times where there would be an entry strike, and no exit strike (lighting strike inspections are done, after a plane has been know to have been hit). If the lightning strike has enough power, it can/may do damage to the aircraft electrical systems. Most avionics on the airplane are very very sensitive, and easily damaged by static, let alone lightning.

Most major components (and composite panels) are grounded. Ground wire varies depending on what the component is. During maintenance, where a component should be grounded, a bonding check is done to determine if the component is bonded to within design limits.

In this situation, the airbus is all fly-by-wire, and a direct hit to it's flight control systems, the surge in electricity could fry a flight control system(such as a power control unit), or engine control system. Even with a deployment of a RAT, the system could have been fatally damaged by the strike and become U/S.

Reports on the news says that the plane was flying in an area know for sever thunderstorms. With a large enough strike, there might have not been enough bonding to handle the large amount of current going through.

Also I don't think NTSB will be leading the investigation. Most likely it would be the Brazilian government or EASA(since its a European built aircraft, and European carrier). .

orange7 06-01-2009 10:39 PM

RIP.

I hope this doesn't happen to me when i fly in August.

danned 06-01-2009 11:28 PM

oh god
scary missing plane

Harvey Specter 06-01-2009 11:35 PM

It could have been lighting, serve icing, serve turbulence...know one really knows until they recover the black box.

kookoobird88 06-01-2009 11:43 PM

somone forgot to enter the numbers at the hatch


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:13 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net