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06-01-2009, 11:10 PM
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composites aren't very good when it comes to lightning strikes. there was this helicopter going over to the oil rig carrying employees where they encountered a lightning strike which basically shattered the tail rotor blades. it was found that composites aren't very conductive.
the solution boeing used on their composite aircraft, the 787, was to sandwich a wired conductive meshing in between the layers of carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP)
now this may have been a once in a million chance that the lightning knocked out the FBW on board which controls the aircraft therefore losing total control and eventually crashing
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06-02-2009, 12:23 AM
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Little more insight on what could have happen: Quote:
As far as I know, A330 has Fly-by-wire control system. In case ALL electric power is lost the plane becomes uncontrollable as there is no direct cables that provide mechanical connection between side stick and control surfaces, or at least actuators.
Fire on the water (still unconfirmed) can tell of an in-flight breakup, like it was with Lauda 767 OE-LAV over Thailand due to reverser in-flight deployment. There is usually no fire when an aircraft hits water surface, even with large amount of fuel on board. In-flight breakup version is also confirmed by ACARS message about decompression (if this message is true).
So the chain of events can be the following. The A330 for some unknown reason lost ALL electric power. Flight crew failed to restore it using RAT or other standby sources or simply didn't have time to do it. It rendered the plane totally uncontrollable. No autoflight, no stability augmention, no thrust control. In turbulent atmosphere strong gusts of wind could throw the plane hard, possibly turning it upside down and sending it into dive. This resulted in breakup due to excessive loads, decopmression and fire.
Anyway the sequence of ACARS automatic messages hopefully will shed some light to this horrible story.
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06-02-2009, 06:07 AM
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Looks like they found some of the wreckage http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...ing/index.html Quote:
Wreckage has been found in the Atlantic Ocean that could have come from a missing Air France jet that disappeared Monday with 228 passengers and crew on board, Brazilian aviation officials said Tuesday.
Americans Anne and Michael Harris, who lived in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, were aboard the flight.
Americans Anne and Michael Harris, who lived in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, were aboard the flight.
Floating objects and seats were found 720 kilometers (447 miles) from the island of Fernando de Noronha, said Brazilian Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.
Fernando de Noronha is an archipelago of 21 islands around 354 kilometers (220 miles) off the northeast coast of Brazil.
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06-02-2009, 07:23 AM
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^ yeah heard about it on the radio on the way to work
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06-02-2009, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri  Little more insight on what could have happen:
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As far as I know, A330 has Fly-by-wire control system. In case ALL electric power is lost the plane becomes uncontrollable as there is no direct cables that provide mechanical connection between side stick and control surfaces, or at least actuators.
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"Not likely, the aircraft can fly on its batteries alone, or on the emergency generator, APU, engines etc."
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From a respectable Airbus pilot
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06-02-2009, 05:02 PM
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#56 | | I don't get it
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reminds me of the Tv series LOST
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06-02-2009, 05:57 PM
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#57 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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i watched an interview of a man that missed this flight.
He's one lucky mofo.
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06-02-2009, 06:02 PM
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#58 | | manage the cap you say????
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06-02-2009, 07:01 PM
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I just read in the Calgary papers the black box should be easy to locate by design, (apparently the A330's will send out sonar pings from as deep as 6000M underwater) but obviously it may not be easy to get to.
If this crash is confirmed it will be the worst in French Aviation history =(
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06-02-2009, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ynot-llat i watched an interview of a man that missed this flight.
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06-02-2009, 08:04 PM
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vid link?
can't seem to fi nd it
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06-02-2009, 08:11 PM
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#62 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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for the guy that missed his plane thats like some final destination shit now imagine you were on the plane and you survived but end up on an island alone like cast away. fucking scary
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06-03-2009, 12:28 AM
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06-04-2009, 11:50 PM
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#64 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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Looks like the debris they found doesn't belong to the AF crash....this is starting to get a bit spooky.
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06-05-2009, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri Looks like the debris they found doesn't belong to the AF crash....this is starting to get a bit spooky. | i just heard that on the radio! so wtf is going on... is it just junk floating around, or is there another crashed plane out there?!?  | |
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06-05-2009, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri Looks like the debris they found doesn't belong to the AF crash....this is starting to get a bit spooky. | wtf?
this is starting to sound like some Lost shit
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06-05-2009, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri | That's why they tell you to keep your seatbelt on at all times...
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06-05-2009, 11:02 AM
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#68 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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i know its far fetched but.. investigators think that the plane crashed and everyone died but how would they really know
if they didnt even find any evidence yet
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06-05-2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Durrann1984 i know its far fetched but.. investigators think that the plane crashed and everyone died but how would they really know
if they didnt even find any evidence yet | Well, they do have crash evidence now... but even if they didn't, there isn't any other logical possible outcome.
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06-05-2009, 02:19 PM
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maybe the plane sunk?
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06-05-2009, 02:21 PM
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#71 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul Well, they do have crash evidence now... but even if they didn't, there isn't any other logical possible outcome. | but they said debris wasnt from the crash?
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06-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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#72 | | y'all better put some respeck on my name
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They still haven't any debris from the plane itself however; Airbus has issued a replacement for the air speed indicators.
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06-05-2009, 06:03 PM
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Why don't they just dismiss this case? It's quite pointless in searching a plane in an Ocean; it's like a needle in a hay stack.
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06-05-2009, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by orange7 Why don't they just dismiss this case? It's quite pointless in searching a plane in an Ocean; it's like a needle in a hay stack. | What are you going to say to the families?
That it is "pointless"?
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06-05-2009, 10:26 PM
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imagine they're alive.... i can only hope...
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