We'll be getting HKG style parking fees soon!

20 bucks 2hrs, full day 45!

awesome!

ohh wtf this is such a brainless fucking move im seriously so sick of retards running this city

you may think that's a joke, but that is EXACTLY what people do.

it's because of idiotic motions like these, that cause MORE greenhouse gasses, MORE driver stress, and a LOWER quality of life.

and then because of these same rules and regulations, you skew your stats. like the latest one. 'more people are walking and taking transit downtown as opposed to 10 years ago'. NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

who the hell still lives / works in vancouver?.. I avoid it like the plauge. so should everyone else.

soon vancouver will be empty and everything will be in langley / chilliwack

They didn't take into account that for many people, a car is a status symbol. This is gonna cause a great divide between rich and poor. I was in NYC recently and parking costs an arm and a leg but you know what? There's still traffic jams and parking spots are hard to come by. I know that NYC's a safe city but it sure didn't feel safe when I took the subway. The rich will continue to drive, the poor will continue take transit. Something like this will force the middle class to take transit making them feel poor. Robertson won't be re-elected.

Brothers, sing along to the song of our forefathers and unite against such tyranny that threatens the very fabric that bounds our society together! United we become strong, with determination and persistence, we will prevail in the face of darkness that has plague and infiltrated our homes!

God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen:
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.

O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all.

Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen.

We just don't have the density to support a better transit system. It's never going to be the same as HK.

If they want to reduce the amt of cars in the downtown core, they should implement a congestion charge like in London and Singapore. That way even people who live downtown who use their car will have to pay. $8-$15/day is a reasonable charge. That way driving downtown can be saved for the rich!

dude you are just trying to price out the "personal companions" at Yaletown :haha:

People will just end up driving around more looking for parking spots.

QFT.

I live near a major bus line that can get me to DT in probably 20 minutes. Yet I still drive in the evenings? Why? Because personally I like driving over taking the bus. It's a personal choice. I also don't mind looking for parking for 20 minutes before hitting up the restaurant, and possibly paying some parking meter. Sure it's inconvenient, but has the threat of this ever caused me to take the bus? Nope.

But I bet this makes the hippies that run our city feel good. :rolleyes: It's like criminalizing speeders. Is it going to make me drive slower on the highways? Nope. It just means I'm watching for cops and using my radar detector instead of focusing 100% on traffic. The law of unintended consequences..

This reminds me of (hippie) ppl in highschool (10+ years ago) who hated on me because my daddy bought me a beater so I could drive to class. Last time I checked, I'm still driving and they're still taking the bus. Good for them. :thumbsup:

I agree with Marco that having a Congestion zone London-style would probably be a much more effective deterrent. A lack of parking won't get me out of a car, but I admit that a $10 surcharge sure will.

^ 10char

Is also more conivent to get around. Say u decide to go to a moive or somewhere else after dinner that the bus does not take you. Not to mention if u are on a date or goingout with ur gf/family do u want to make them take the bus too or let ur date know u are bussing? I mean if you drive ur date/gf around u might get some extra action VS taking the bus won't get u any :haha:.

Not to mention stading in the bus stop wating for the bus isn't all the cool.

Are you kidding me? what a bunch of shit.

Great... now there will be more global warming hippies riding their bikes in the middle of the roads, and i will run them over.

wtf driving cars doesnt warm up the planet, holy shit. be more concerned with the depletion of our fossil fuels rather than some BS hippies made up

wow.. and i am hesitant to drive to downtown as it is..

Complaint #1: We should privatize the system because we'll get better service, more efficiencies, etc.
Fact: If the system were privatized, there would be no incentive to run routes that don't turn a profit, meaning only the most-used routes would be serviced. This means no service to the burbs, to more remote areas, etc. Think service is bad now with a bus every half-hour? Try no service.

Complaint #2: I would use transit if the buses were cleaner, safer, etc.
Fact: We have transit police that are armed. We have less users which in theory should reduce the chances of anything happening. But the reality is that we, collectively, don't respect public institutions here. Why do people leave their trash on the trains when there are recyling bins and garbage cans everywhere? Why do people vandalize the system? I will use HK's system as a reference because everyone gets a hard-on from their system. My uncle put it this way - it's kept clean because someone will call someone out if they litter on the MTR.

Complaint #3: I would use transit if service was better, more frequent, etc.
Fact:
- Density - we don't have it. City councils have tried to push people to live in higher-density homes (I'm a convert), but the North American dream of owning a single-family home with a 5000 sq ft back yard still exists for a large majority of us.
- Taxes - our taxes are too low to support a system that runs buses every 5 minutes and stops in each subdivision in the Lower Mainland.
- Chicken and egg effect - We need ridership to increase revenues and to create demand. But, as long as people want it all and want to pay nothing for it, transit will not improve.

^^

complaint: van parking sucks ass
fact: ur an idiot. there will be a lot more cons compared to pros if this shit were to take effect

FML. I did, because I thought he would make Vancouver into something special...

I kind of regret it now...

lol what?
driving leads to co2 accumulation in the atmosphere. which increases the mean temperature of the earth. however, one can argue the negative feedback loop with cloud cover, since an increase in mean earth temp increases cloud cover which deflects the energy from the sun from hitting our planet.

CO2 is the significant factor to why the earth was 10-20 degrees cooler during the mesozoic. and because of alot of mechanism, cloud cover was not enough to cool the planet

and what are we supposed to do to help stop the depletion of fossil fuels? we have to stop using them.. lol.. ie. stop driving?

i agree i do not like robertson, but you need to get your facts strait.

They've been cutting back parking for years. This is nothing new.

I would gladly take the skytrain to downtown, IF IT RAN 24 HRS. what the hell is up w/ removing spots. ridiculous.

vancouver's governement is so dumb..

IF IT DIDNT RAIN i wouldnt be driving as much ....hence..no need to drive and park,,,

since vancouver's government is so dumb...

what type of retarded do you have to be to blame the government for the weather?

if the skytrain ran 24 hours, bums would just sleep on the skytrain turning it into a shithole