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R8 06-16-2009 06:53 PM

Printing Problems
 
I have a couple pictures that I mashed into some font in photoshop.. I set the photoshop size to 8.5" x 11" (which is exactly the same as letter size). I went to Staples to print it (laser printer) and when it came out, it looked SUPER blurry, almost as if the psd file was enlarged or zoomed in... but while in photoshop @100% it looked perfectly crisp and clean... Any solutions? I've been also trying to print it full bleed but staples can't do that? (Don't ask me why -_-) and it came out with a small border (exactly 1cm)..

Any help? Is it my photoshop font that I used?
Thanks in Advance!

R8

peazs 06-16-2009 07:50 PM

What was the dpi of the file? I hope it wasn't 72 (for web use)...

Inaii 06-16-2009 08:25 PM

Go to a proper print shop, staples can only do so much. They can print bleed (just please stay away from mine, I have enough work as it is T-T) as long as you have it on the file already.

I agree with peazs, dpi sounds like it's too low for print.

R8 06-16-2009 08:37 PM

whats DPI and where can i find it?? I don't know if im explaining it properly.... On photoshop, it looks perfectly fine and all, but when you print it, it looks like its all of a sudden zoomed in and everything seems bigger and blurrier..

Inaii 06-16-2009 08:47 PM

In photoshop, go to Image -> Image Size and look for resolution. If it's under 300, that answers your question. All printed images need to be at least 300 in order to come out clearly. If you're printing at 72dpi (like peazs said) it's only printing at web dpi (which I believe is what your monitor uses). So even though it looks great on screen, it'll look like crap when you actually print it.

R8 06-16-2009 09:00 PM

It says my resolution is 72 pixels/inch .... what should i set it as in order to print it at its highest quality? (Thanks so much Inaii)

Inaii 06-16-2009 09:22 PM

No problem, but you should thank peazs too ;) they pointed out the problem, I just showed you how to get there :D

If you open up your original photo, do the same thing and check the resolution. If it's at 72dpi (dots per inch if I haven't forgotten), there isn't much you can do. If you try to raise the resolution, the picture will become smaller and smaller, and you'll still have the blurriness issue. But if the original is 300dpi or above, it's fixable. Actually it would also be fixable if the original was massively large.

Essentially (this is the way I was taught by one of my teachers) what you want to do, is each time you double the resolution of an image, you cut the actual size in half. So say you have a 4x6 picture @ 72dpi, when you double the dpi (so 144dpi) the picture size becomes 2x3. At 288, it would be 1x1.5 and so on and so forth. If you have a large picture (say 24"x48") it wouldn't be too much of a problem, since you would want to bring the original size down anyway (unless you want a huge file size).

Someone feel free to correct me if I've said something wrong, or post a better way of doing this. I'd like to know as well if there are any other ways to change the resolution without changing the actual file size (I know you can turn the bi-cubic sampling off, but I've been told it makes things look choppy and fuzzy still.

R8 06-16-2009 09:26 PM

Thanks peazs! :)

Anyways, Inaii, that sounds REALLY confusing... :S unfortunately I dont get it.. :S:S Does anyone else have an easier way?

Inaii 06-16-2009 09:39 PM

If no one else posts a better way, I'll throw up some screenshots of what I mean tomorrow. I'm headed to bed now. Also, feel free to pm me and when I get a chance, I can explain what I mean *hopefully* in a less confusing manner. I'm one of those people who can show you how to do something, but can't explain.

And I want to be a teacher :lol

R8 06-16-2009 09:43 PM

Haha, Thanks Inaii! I will definately give you a shout sometime... But do you think I can find someone professional who can help me with this problem?

Inaii 06-16-2009 10:03 PM

You can get a designer to help you, but it'll cost you (lol I meant if you get a designer from a firm or a freelancer who you don't know). There's a few of us kicking around RS. You could always track one of the others down and see if they have a simpler solution.

R8 06-16-2009 10:09 PM

(got any usernames? :):) ;)?)

Senna4ever 06-17-2009 12:00 AM

If you want your image size to be 8.5"x11", you must have an image that is 2550 pixels on one side and 3300 pixels on the other. Also, the medium that your image is being printed on will also make a difference. A giclee or lightjet print will look much better than one printed on regular office paper.

Inaii 06-17-2009 06:59 AM

There's an RS Graphic Designers group (I'm sure it doesn't have all of us). You could start there.

R8 06-17-2009 12:14 PM

Senna4ever, your comment sounds really helpful, but too bad im clueles... its my first time printing a psd/jpg :P... Also... Wheres that RS group?? Inaii are you in it? Invite me!

Inaii 06-17-2009 07:05 PM

You should be able to find it through my profile.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/group.php?groupid=29

but there's the link =p

Did you find out what resolution your original image is?

R8 06-17-2009 09:44 PM

It says my resolution is 72 pixels/inch ....

Inaii 06-17-2009 10:06 PM

Yea, there's no way you'll be able to make the picture crisp and clear with that resolution. Is it something you picked up off the internet? Perhaps you could replace it with a picture you take yourself using a camera?

peazs 06-17-2009 10:18 PM

Welcome!
Where'd you get the pictures from? On the net or you took the photos yourself?

R8 06-17-2009 10:20 PM

Well, I got the pictures off the internet, and then i just cropped it and put it onto the brochure... the font i just typed size 12/14 on photoshop with black color on a white background... It's nothing fancy.... If you guys want, you could PM me your msn messenger and i could send it to you and discuss it...

Senna4ever 06-18-2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8 (Post 6470862)
Well, I got the pictures off the internet, and then i just cropped it and put it onto the brochure... the font i just typed size 12/14 on photoshop with black color on a white background... It's nothing fancy.... If you guys want, you could PM me your msn messenger and i could send it to you and discuss it...

Woah, wait...you took an image off the net and put it into a brochure? What kind of brochure? Did you break any copyright infringement laws by doing so?

R8 06-18-2009 08:22 AM

No I did not, that picture was provided by the company from their website. They took it themselves and told me to take it off the website... So Inaii helped me out and told me that I should use illustrator for the font/ editing? Any other helpful comments? (Now I know that Staples is not professional printing.. haha)

Senna4ever 06-18-2009 11:49 AM

Illustrator & Photoshop have the same font editing capabilities (for TrueType), so it doesn't matter.

Inaii 06-18-2009 10:50 PM

Editing yes. But Illustrator prints out typography better than Photoshop every time I've ever printed anything. Vector will always look way better than a rasterized font.

Raid3n 06-18-2009 11:01 PM

R8, go back to the company and ask if they still have the original files for the images you want to use. if they do, they are more than likely high enough resolution for you to use. also, what type of pictures are they? i'd almost recommend taking your own pictures for the brochure, that way you know what resolution they are.


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